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rpgapzx | Posted 7/29/2006 9:59:54 PM | message detail
And now your post will likely warp someone else's mind. Tragic how history repeats itself...

As long as I'm not forgotten. =P

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SC2k6: 41/44
Today: Bracket: FF Vote: FF
Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:00:01 PM | message detail
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/29/2006 10:00:14 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy is so being screwed by Zelda without FF's consent.
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527160
Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:00:32 PM | message detail
Besides, KOS-MOS is a little easier to...appease, if you know what I mean.

I'd like to fluff her Garfield, if you know what I mean.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/29/2006 10:01:28 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'd shove my wang up her exhaust pipe.
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Nominate Nidoran F.
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527160
rpgapzx | Posted 7/29/2006 10:02:32 PM | message detail
And KOS-MOS isn't an uber-powerful being?

She is. It's just that even with a few people contemplating the KOS-MOS upset in SC2k5

KOS-MOS<Luigi<Tifa<Sonic<Megaman

was a lot less cool than that string in the Devil Division.

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SC2k6: 41/44
Today: Bracket: FF Vote: FF
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/29/2006 10:02:45 PM | message detail
Hmm...thinking some more, though, a hell of a lot of dumb casuals have Mario beating FF. Maybe I shouldn't be too worried.

I would be really, really shocked if FF had over 50% of the brackets though.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 7/29/2006 10:06:37 PM | message detail
I'll say it now: no way did FF have more than 50% to win it all.

Zelda should have close to half, and I could easily see Mario taking a big chunk as well.

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Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:06:42 PM | message detail
Come on Zelda, let Metal Gear above 28%!
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Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:07:30 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy VII had over 40% taking it to win the whole contest. Final Fantasy as a series has no less than that, guaranteed.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 7/29/2006 10:09:22 PM | message detail
So what do you make of that line anyway, Transience? It confused the heck out of me when I first read it, and then later it appeared verbatim a second and third time. I have a hard time accepting a script error happening on three separate occasions.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/29/2006 10:11:27 PM | message detail
I'm loving Zelda's performance. >=)

I don't understand why so many refuse to admit that Zelda has a great, great shot of beating FF. Now, we're saying that MG = RE(=SF)? =(

Zelda will win, dammit! =P

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Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:13:27 PM | message detail
But what about Mario, huh?!

You know, I wonder if Zelda will massively go up or not. Its matches have been oddly consistent, even against opponents it should've gained on.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/29/2006 10:14:03 PM | message detail
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/29/2006 10:14:19 PM | message detail
^That was my first reaction too, I was thinking are these guys some major FF fanboys or what? But then I realized RE4 can't be underestimated, and it is likely that RE is stronger than what it showed due to that horrendous pic against SF.
transience | Posted 7/29/2006 10:14:34 PM | message detail
So what do you make of that line anyway, Transience? It confused the heck out of me when I first read it, and then later it appeared verbatim a second and third time. I have a hard time accepting a script error happening on three separate occasions.

I've googled it, asked about it, searched for a reference.. nothing. I have no idea what the hell it is. I have become rather fond of the line though, just for how weird and (seemingly) out of place it is.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
SonicRaptor | Posted 7/29/2006 10:16:58 PM | message detail
I didn't think much of Zelda beating Civilization (it was fodder), raised an eyebrow when it decimated MMX (though I figured SFF was a factor) and knew Metroid was going to be SFF'd to death and it was.

But to have it getting 72%+ on Metal Gear finally has me convinced it could beat FF.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/29/2006 10:19:56 PM | message detail
Well, SFF matches don't tend to have huge shifts. The biggest one I can think of is...what, Bowser/Kirby? There's also Civ to think about, though that's such bad fodder I can't imagine it being susceptible to huge shifts (like SH). So, uh...nah, it doesn't matter. Metal Gear is able to defy anything and everything when it comes to bombing with the day vote. It can't even impress here, it's going to get majorly ugly later on.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/29/2006 10:24:00 PM | message detail
Random thought: If Zelda/Final Fantasy turns into a real barn-burner (and thus, the greatest match ever), I'll give the edge to Zelda. I know there'll be intense rallying on both sides regardless, but I think the Nintendo fans will have tons of resolve and will be seeking vengeance after watching Mario get owned.
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Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:24:48 PM | message detail
I trust Square in close matches that don't involve Mario.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/29/2006 10:25:35 PM | message detail
But what about Mario, huh?!

Mario will beat FF taking 99% of all the votes! You know it's true!! >_>

How are the vote totals looking here?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/29/2006 10:26:04 PM | message detail
An actual barn-burner for FF/Zelda could potentially do 200,000+ in my mind. I've never seen two such insanely obsessive fanbases.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/29/2006 10:26:44 PM | message detail
That's just the thing - this one could indirectly involve Mario. I'm betting a pissed off Mario fan would more likely rally for Zelda in the finals if the match were close.
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transience | Posted 7/29/2006 10:27:06 PM | message detail
plus it's on a tuesday
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/29/2006 10:27:18 PM | message detail
I'M A PISSED OFF METAL GEAR FAN AND ZELDA IS ****ING GOING DOWN
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Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:27:53 PM | message detail
At the 1:25 mark, this match has 16491 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time:

Final Fantasy/Mega Man - 18083
Street Fighter/Resident Evil - 15494
Zelda/Metroid - 17600
Mario/Smash Brothers - 15960
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Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:28:40 PM | message detail
But what about all of the angry Cloud and Sephiroth fanboys, huh?!

And the Snake fanboys!
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/29/2006 10:29:13 PM | message detail
Thank you, Leon. So, Zelda lekely won't be breaking 100000? =(
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/29/2006 10:29:22 PM | message detail
sure didn't stop FFVII winning the game contest when it beat SSBM.
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Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:29:52 PM | message detail
It almost certainly will not break 100,000 by itself.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/29/2006 10:30:17 PM | message detail
But what about all of the angry Cloud and Sephiroth fanboys, huh?!

And the Snake fanboys!


I guess anything is possible, but the Mario fans would have watched their series lose just hours earlier. That's a tough pill to swallow, especially when you might not even have expected it. I doubt more than a few people (casual or not) actually thought MG had a chance here.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/29/2006 10:30:51 PM | message detail
...what the heck were SSBM fanboys supposed to rally behind? CT?

Although I think it's funny that LttP got edged out by CT on the day right before FFVII/OoT. You'd think that LttP fanboys would be there for revenge in droves, and yet FFVII still humiliated OoT.
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Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:31:44 PM | message detail
Meh, revenge voting is overrated anyway. I doubt that many people care THAT much about this contest.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/29/2006 10:32:22 PM | message detail
.. oh yeah, I forgot CT was in the finals. dammit.

well, yeah, that works too. >_>;;
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LordOfDabu | Posted 7/29/2006 10:32:43 PM | message detail
I'd think that someone who voted Mario would be likely to vote Zelda regardless (although interestingly enough, not the other way around!).
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/29/2006 10:32:54 PM | message detail
I do! I always revenge vote. Screw X-Stats!

I think the only time I didn't revenge vote was when Mario beat Snake. My #2 over my #1 isn't that saddening.
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BeTheMan | Posted 7/29/2006 10:32:59 PM | message detail
Yeah, I don't put much stock in people voting out of spite. If Zelda wins, it'll win because it's stronger than FF, plain and simple.
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Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:33:42 PM | message detail
Besides, what about the IWHTLWRLTTCF, huh?!
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(That's the "If we have to lose, we'd rather lose to the champion" Factor, for the uninformed)
gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/29/2006 10:39:21 PM | message detail
Assuming Zelda pulls off the big upset, how do we try to justify it? Zelda has the NES and SNES generations under its belt, but Final Fantasy has the strongest game of all in the PS/N64 generation. The current gen is a bit of a mystery, but I'd take FFX over Wind Waker. I doubt their handheld games would do much to influence a voter's decision, and we all know that TP/FFXII/FFXIII hype won't amount to anything.
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/29/2006 10:40:38 PM | message detail
I think the proper justification would be as follows:

Link. He come to town.
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transience | Posted 7/29/2006 10:41:58 PM | message detail
how do we justify it? people like Zelda more than they like Final Fantasy. it's that simple.

though I suppose we could go LOL NINTENDOFAQS as well to make ourselves feel better.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/29/2006 10:41:58 PM | message detail
This pic thing confuses me... no recognition pretty much means Ceej made the pic himself, but I don't see it being a theme either, because honestly, who the crunk can Ceej use as the face of the Final Fantasy series from where it started, to now? It just wouldn't work.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/29/2006 10:42:18 PM | message detail
I've already come up with numerous justifications, even before this. FF's diversity could theoretically hurt more than help, and that with NintendoFAQs = trouble. Or, perhaps more shockingly (and I've mentioned this possibility back during 2k5), perhaps FFVII isn't the site's favorite game any more (or isn't its favorite by a significant margin). Yeah, there's the top ten list, but I'm willing to bet the vast majority of people here would take LttP over CT despite it.
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Sir Crono | Posted 7/29/2006 10:43:34 PM | message detail
who the crunk can Ceej use as the face of the Final Fantasy series from where it started, to now? It just wouldn't work.

I already solved this: Use Cloud's FFT sprite for the beginning and use Advent Children Cloud for the here and now.
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transience | Posted 7/29/2006 10:44:41 PM | message detail
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original work if you ask me.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
transience | Posted 7/29/2006 10:45:19 PM | message detail
err.. Ceej's work I should say.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/29/2006 10:46:05 PM | message detail
Street Fighter > Metal Gear
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Ed Bellis | Posted 7/29/2006 10:46:19 PM | message detail
Ms. Pac Man > Samus
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Chinballz | Posted 7/29/2006 10:46:27 PM | message detail
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/29/2006 10:46:31 PM | message detail
Nominate Axel from Kingdom Hearts. Got it memorized?
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