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Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 10:09:02 AM | message detail
Ah, forgot about Ness.

Still, he's difficult to gauge given what happens every year with SFF.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/28/2006 10:10:51 AM | message detail
Maybe if he makes it in this year, we'll finally find out his true strength.

I still say one of the most interesting potential matches is Ness vs. Sub-Zero.
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 7/28/2006 10:11:37 AM | message detail
The strongest non-Square RPG character is Mario. >.>
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TessaTestarossa | Posted 7/28/2006 10:12:21 AM | message detail
Y'know, this system means we have 0% chance of seeing a Mother 3 character.

But maybe next year -_-
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Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 10:13:11 AM | message detail
Yeah, I'd like to figure that too.

Please, let him not face Link, let him not face Link...
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Samurai7 | Posted 7/28/2006 10:21:34 AM | message detail
Diablo seems like a waist to me....

Ness however I <3
So lets go with Ness here >.>

Also meche, you realize half the characters will just be 1st round loses right? We should just get rid of them >.>
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Samurai7 | Posted 7/28/2006 10:22:03 AM | message detail
erm waste >.>
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/28/2006 10:34:58 AM | message detail
Link is an RPG character? what?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 7/28/2006 10:43:18 AM | message detail
Is Ulti doing the Contest Analysis again this year?

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Phediuk | Posted 7/28/2006 10:56:38 AM | message detail
Alright, here's a pop quiz for you guys:

Which bracket would be weaker: A 32-male, 32-female character battle, or a 32 Japanese, 32 non-Japanese game battle?
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Tediz247 | Posted 7/28/2006 10:58:54 AM | message detail
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Kaxon | Posted 7/28/2006 11:00:33 AM | message detail
Since it looks like it's going to be crucial in the upcoming contest, I'd like to know everyone's thoughts on the Aeris/Tifa/Zelda trio. I'd go with Tifa > Aeris > Zelda, but I wouldn't exclude any combination.

Up until SC2k5, I firmly believed Aeris was the third strongest from FF VII, but I don't think so anymore. I'd probably take Aeris over Zelda out of wishful thinking, but Zelda could easily be above her or above both of them.

So, you're basically telling me every last RPG character on the male bracket HAS to be from Square? Riiiiiight.

No, but in this bracket every male character has to be strong. There's not much room for low midcarders like Diablo. He'd easily belong in the field if there weren't a cap on male characters.
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Tediz247 | Posted 7/28/2006 11:00:37 AM | message detail
Japanese/non-Japanese. The non-Japanese would have Master Chief, Tommy Vercetti, CJ, Diablo, and... who?
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Phediuk | Posted 7/28/2006 11:01:45 AM | message detail
I meant Japanese and non-Japanese games. Not characters.
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/28/2006 11:03:01 AM | message detail
Probably the Female/Male one - at least you'd have Blizzard games, GTA and Halo for the other one.
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yoshifan823 | Posted 7/28/2006 11:03:42 AM | message detail
Rayman, Sub-Zero, Jak, Rachet, Joanna Dark, Conker, Crash Bandicoot...
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Tediz247 | Posted 7/28/2006 11:04:00 AM | message detail
Whoops, didn't see that. Female/Male, then.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/28/2006 11:21:58 AM | message detail
So, you're basically telling me every last RPG character on the male bracket HAS to be from Square? Riiiiiight.

No, as Kaxon said, just because he's a non square rpg type doesn't mean he deserves a spot. Personally, diablo never did anything for me.

And to the whole name nomination thing, I don't think it's as obvious as saying, "Didn't you read the directions omg you fool?" For Celes in particular those FFVI names were only ever created in the manual; it's more than reasonable to assume people don't use them. Also, Princess Peach can be validly referred to as Princess Toadstool, Peach Toadstool, or Princess Peach. It changed with the games, and the wikipedia article on her says as much, too. Are people going to nominate Luigi or Luigi Mario? Even though CJ snubbed chrono trigger, it feels like this year he'll be a bit more careful. I don't remember having to say what series the character's are from in the past, but that could just be my bad memory and nothing more.

And:
Zelda > Tifa > Aeris
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DeepHyren12 | Posted 7/28/2006 11:24:40 AM | message detail
Why are we just now talking about the last name thing? I haven't been around for long, but it seems like that'd be a problem from the begining, one which we would've solved after 5 or so contests >.<
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Phediuk | Posted 7/28/2006 11:29:54 AM | message detail
The non-Japanese characters thing did pique my interest enough to make this list, though.

Every non-Japanese character/game in each contest:

SC2002-

Scorpion (22nd)
Raziel (24th)
Lara Croft (27th)
Duke Nukem (33rd)
Max Payne (35th)
Crash Bandicoot (36th)
Spyro the Dragon (37th)
Q*Bert (41st)
Pitfall Harry (42nd)
Abe (51st)
Gordon Freeman (53rd)
Gabe Logan (56th)
Guybrush Threepwood (58th)
Kane (59th)
Dirk the Daring (61st)
Serious Sam (62nd)

SC2003-

Master Chief (26th)
Tommy Vercetti (27th)
Scorpion (31st)
Sam Fisher (35th)
Lara Croft (37th)
Duke Nukem (45th)
Conker (46th)
Raziel (47th)
Crash Bandicoot (50th)
Max Payne (51st)
Gordon Freeman (53rd)

Sp2004-

StarCraft (8th)
Halo (10th)
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (12th)
Metroid Prime (17th)
Half-Life (20th)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (23rd)
Goldeneye 007 (25th)
Doom (30th)
Mortal Kombat (31st)
Perfect Dark (36th)
Tetris (40th)
Fallout 2 (51st)
Pong (54th)
Pitfall (57th)
Adventure (64th)

SC2004-

Master Chief (15th)
Tommy Vercetti (26th)
Scorpion (33rd)
Duke Nukem (36th)
HK-47 (37th)
Jak (40th)
Max Payne (42nd)
Conker (43rd)
Crash Bandicoot (46th)
Sam Fisher (47th)
Kain (48th)
Lara Croft (50th)
Gordon Freeman (51st)
Sly Cooper (55th)
JC Denton (56th)
Earthworm Jim (57th)
Guybrush Threepwood (63rd)
Tanner (64th)

Sp2005-

Diablo (4th)
Officer Tenpenny (32nd)

SC2005-

Master Chief (21st)
Diablo (33rd)
Tommy Vercetti (35th)
Gordon Freeman (37th)
Sam Fisher (40th)
Kratos (44th)
Conker (48th)
Joanna Dark (54th)
Agent 47 (57th)
Sarah Kerrigan (58th)
Carl Johnson (63rd)
Manny Calavera (66th)

Top 100-

WTF. I went to see the Top 100 list, and it's been replaced with this:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/top10_100.html

SC2006-

Civilization
Halo
Madden
Grand Theft Auto
Warcraft
Diablo
The Elder Scrolls
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/28/2006 11:31:52 AM | message detail
Hmmmm....From the looks of things, SMB was dominant with the morning vote, even getting 70% updates at times. However, SSB has come back with the afternoon vote, and SMB is struggling to get 60% updates now. Smash Brothers is looking to get at least 37% before this is all said and done.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/28/2006 11:34:32 AM | message detail
And as far as people worrying about Celes not getting in because of people listing her only as "Celes" and others listing her as "Celes Chere," I wouldn't worry about it too much. That's why there's an option to list the game as well.

Besides, CJayC didn't put Terra down as having any last name when she was in the contest last year, for what it's worth.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/28/2006 11:41:25 AM | message detail
At the 14:40 mark, this match has 83675 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time:

Sonic/SSB - 81276
Final Fantasy/Mega Man - 90452
Street Fighter/Resident Evil - 81932
Zelda/Metroid - 89233

Only marginally better than Sonic/SSB.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
transience | Posted 7/28/2006 11:54:09 AM | message detail
left Ceej a feedback ticket regarding The List. that should get fixed pretty soon.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/28/2006 12:41:12 PM | message detail
Below 63% for Mario now. Impressive day vote performance here for Smash Brothers.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
Super Luigi | Posted 7/28/2006 12:43:55 PM | message detail
I want to see Metal Gear vs SSB dammit. That would be extremely close.
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DeepHyren12 | Posted 7/28/2006 12:45:14 PM | message detail
So, is this SSB being resistant to SFF, or is SSB just this strong even after SFF?
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/28/2006 12:48:01 PM | message detail
Of course there is some SFF. I mean, it is two popular Nintendo franchises going at it. SSB is just alot stronger than we thought and isn't getting SFFed all that badly.

Oh and, http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1662

Hay guys FF7 = the SMB series lolz
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/28/2006 12:48:56 PM | message detail
If that's actually true (as in, this is almost entirely SSBM), then Mario is in biiiiig trouble. I still say SSBM doesn't break 40% in a rematch with FFVII.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/28/2006 1:11:16 PM | message detail
Use a character's full name when possible, and make sure you spell the character's name correctly, as it is used in the English-language version of the game (i.e. "Crono", "Aeris").

Am I the only one who found it hilarious that CJayC said to always use a character's full name, and then called her "Aeris" instead of "Aeris Gainsborough"?
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plasmabeam | Posted 7/28/2006 1:15:17 PM | message detail
Knuckles, Luigi, and Zero are in the same 4 pack. Who ya got?

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/28/2006 1:16:10 PM | message detail
lolol
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/28/2006 1:16:28 PM | message detail
he was using it as an example of an English version.
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Super Luigi | Posted 7/28/2006 1:17:06 PM | message detail
You guys think Leon will be back in the contest this year?
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/28/2006 1:17:55 PM | message detail
You guys think Leon will be back in the contest this year?

Yes, if I had to take a guess it will be him and another Resident Evil character (probably Jill Valentine).
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/28/2006 1:19:19 PM | message detail
So which characters do you guys want to see in this contest the most?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/28/2006 1:26:55 PM | message detail
Tidus, Knuckles, Presea, and another FFVIII rep, even if it has to be Quistis or Rinoa.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
steve illumina | Posted 7/28/2006 1:30:39 PM | message detail
Oh I hope Ness dont make it...that idiot and his overrated game already broke 2 of my brackets over the years
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/28/2006 1:33:14 PM | message detail
What are the strongest 32 males according to the lol x-stats. I have a feeling 8 seeds in the Male bracket won't be fodder :(
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plasmabeam | Posted 7/28/2006 1:34:23 PM | message detail
Damn, I should've nominated Leon Kennedy. Why did I rush with my male nominations?!! Arrgh!

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/28/2006 1:35:21 PM | message detail
I think Leon will make it in easily.

I'd be more worried about Vincent.
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plasmabeam | Posted 7/28/2006 1:35:23 PM | message detail
From: Tequilla Gundam | Posted: 7/28/2006 2:33:14 PM | Message Detail
What are the strongest 32 males according to the lol x-stats. I have a feeling 8 seeds in the Male bracket won't be fodder :(


Take the Top 34 characters and subtract Samus and Zelda

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/28/2006 1:36:24 PM | message detail
Marina Liteyears, baby.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/28/2006 1:36:54 PM | message detail
And Tifa and Aeris...
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/28/2006 1:37:59 PM | message detail
Forgot about Yuna, Rikku, and Chun Li..

And possibly Jill
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Due to time constraints today, the interview will continue with the semifinal matches in tomorrow and Sunday's analyses. All I gotta say for today is, FF will avenge my bracket, and Street Fighter, by burying RE by over 80%. Adios, RE... And so the 4 #1 seeds will represent at the end...and the 2 that this site loves the most for 5 yrs of contests will have another battle on Tuesday August 1st... same old same old same old...

Stau tuned this weekend :) And dont forget to nominate Kitana in my honor!

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plasmabeam | Posted 7/28/2006 1:38:37 PM | message detail
Hmm, I forgot there were actually some decent females last year.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/28/2006 1:46:22 PM | message detail
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2972/feedbackrx6.png

I'm surprised that this hasn't been posted in this topic yet. Looks like no Zolom or Nidoran F.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/28/2006 1:48:01 PM | message detail
It's because nobody is surprised that they won't be allowed.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling