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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/27/2006 9:36:42 PM | message detail
The last time Mario bombed against competition he should have blown out, Mario/Crono 2 happened.

Final Fantasy is so screwed.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/top10_100.html



SSBM > your face.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/27/2006 9:37:15 PM | message detail
Can't argue with that logic

Fire Emblem > Halo


TuRtLe
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Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1
Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V
Ed Bellis | Posted 7/27/2006 9:37:37 PM | message detail
needs more hot ms. pac man pics/10
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Big Bob | Posted 7/27/2006 9:37:37 PM | message detail
First...second...third...FOURTH post?
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/27/2006 9:37:45 PM | message detail
Jesus is on SMB's side.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/27/2006 10:07:31 PM | message detail
http://objection.4camp.net/go.php?n=440462
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
voltch | Posted 7/28/2006 1:49:30 AM | message detail
how do you get miles edgeworth instead of phoenix wright?
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Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft.
BrentfordFC-championship here we come
Evil_REmade | Posted 7/28/2006 1:51:48 AM | message detail
Maybe edgey knows
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jonthomson | Posted 7/28/2006 2:47:05 AM | message detail
FACT or FICTION: With a decent match pic (i.e. include Link/Samus/Zelda/Kirby/anyone who's not low midcarders or fodder) and SSBM beats 40% easily. Maybe 45%.
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Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Phoenix Wright, Jill Valentine, Guru Winners Pick, 6 TBA
transience | Posted 7/28/2006 2:47:38 AM | message detail
absolute fiction. people are not going to be swayed by a picture when it's friggin' Mario Brothers vs. Smash Brothers.
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I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
voltch | Posted 7/28/2006 3:11:40 AM | message detail
solid Snake sjould be in that match pic
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Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft.
BrentfordFC-championship here we come
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/28/2006 3:20:42 AM | message detail
Solid Snake should be in every match picture, but that's beside the point!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/28/2006 3:39:54 AM | message detail
Doesn't matter, he could have had Peach in place of Toad and then make then mirror the pic and give it a pallet swap for SSB and it'd be the same.
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Detective in Sir Chris' Police
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/28/2006 3:45:30 AM | message detail
absolute fiction. people are not going to be swayed by a picture when it's friggin' Mario Brothers vs. Smash Brothers.

Now this is the fact.

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"Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/28/2006 4:44:07 AM | message detail
A hypothesis:

Final Fantasy, the series, is the absolute peak of contest performance. The number of votes that FF lost from last round are the number of people who "betrayed" FF (likes both, voted MM). The remaining difference is how many more Mega Man fans than there are Diablo fans.

:p

Anywho, how much worse than MM is RE going to do?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/28/2006 4:57:20 AM | message detail
A lot. Resident Evil has most of its base on the Playstation, with basically only RE4 to diversify itself. And I'm convinced there's not a single PS1 game that FFVII wouldn't overperform on. There's only one that is debateably bigger than MGS -- and that's FFVIII. That speaks volumes.

Resident Evil is going to get massacred. We're talking Zelda/MMX, maybe even Zelda/Metroid type destruction here.
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Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior.
jonthomson | Posted 7/28/2006 5:13:45 AM | message detail
Match 28 - Final Fantasy vs Resident Evil

And now we get the fourth 1 seed making its way into the semi finals. And this one won't be close either. The pre-tournament favourite crushed Diablo before somehow failing to triple Mega Man. Resident Evil killed Shadow Hearts, and then showed that it was due to horrendous weakness from its opponent as it only just snuck past Street Fighter, pretty much a one-game series, by less than 2000 votes.

Not much more to say about this really. I'd probably take Mega Man over Resident Evil, so I think FF does a little better than in the last round. Just about a trebling will do here.

Bracket says: Final Fantasy
Favourites bracket says: Street Fighter
Vote says: Resident Evil
Prediction: Final Fantasy with 75.56%

Fun fact of the day: jonthomson has never played a Final Fantasy game.
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Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Phoenix Wright, Jill Valentine, The Boss, Ada Wong, Celes, Lyndis, Morrigan, Guru TBA, 1 TBA
The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/28/2006 5:16:00 AM | message detail
Oh no not a trebling.

That would have worked in FF's last round against the music-themed Megaman/Rockman >_<
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lettuce Kefka | Posted 7/28/2006 6:02:54 AM | message detail
Hey stats guys, currently there are about 100 confirmed Midgar Zolom nominations. Do you guys reckon that could be enough?
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Nominate the Midgar Zolom for SC2K6
Giggsalot | Posted 7/28/2006 6:05:02 AM | message detail
I'd say so, because the noms will be more split because people would normally nominate more than 7 male characters.

Anyway, didn't Manny get in last time with like 80 noms?
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Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 6:43:39 AM | message detail
I'd say no, because IT ISN'T ELIGIBLE.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/28/2006 6:50:18 AM | message detail
Current nomination tally Top 10s:

Male-

Phoenix Wright - 49
Jay Solano - 35
Prince of Persia - 27
Captain Falcon – 24
Midgar Zolom - 20
Raiden – 20
Gordon Freeman - 19
Nightmare - 19
Fox McCloud - 18
Mewtwo - 18

Female-

Lyndis – 40
Samus Aran – 35
Carmen Sandiego – 33
Princess Peach Toadstool - 32
Celes Chere - 28
Nidoran F - 28
The Boss – 25
Princess Zelda – 25
Tifa Lockhart - 23
Sheena Fujibayashi - 20
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
Phediuk | Posted 7/28/2006 6:55:20 AM | message detail
Zolom and Nidoran aren't getting in. Servbot was an exception that I doubt Ceej intends on repeating. Remember how Mass Carriers were rejected? Yeah.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 6:57:44 AM | message detail
I'd nitpick about how you tally them anyway, but... argh, I just did.
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Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
Phediuk | Posted 7/28/2006 6:59:36 AM | message detail
I just C+P'ed those from the tally topic, Slow. No "counting" was involved.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 7:00:26 AM | message detail
Ah. That explains a lot.
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
TessaTestarossa | Posted 7/28/2006 8:56:39 AM | message detail
Is it worth a feedback ticket to ask Ceej to look individually at every entrant that gets X number of nominations and combine them when necessary?

After the CRHONO incident, I'm worried that, for instance, people nominating Celes and Celes Chere are hurting each other.
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Tediz247 | Posted 7/28/2006 8:58:56 AM | message detail
That rather worries me, too. I nominated most characters with both first and last names, and others haven't. Hopefully something's done about that.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 9:05:21 AM | message detail
That, and CJayC doesn't put the full names on the bracket for some characters.

BTW, anyone noticed Mario went down a full .4% in the last hour and a half?
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
Tediz247 | Posted 7/28/2006 9:10:07 AM | message detail
Wow. I expected SSB to do better than the Analysis Crew thought it would, but never in my wildest dreams did I expect SSB to take the day vote. Mario might finish under 62% or less if this keeps up.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
Who Cares? | Posted 7/28/2006 9:32:40 AM | message detail
That rather worries me, too. I nominated most characters with both first and last names, and others haven't. Hopefully something's done about that.

Heh, I was actually thinking about that when I typed in 'Sheena Fujibayashi'. I'd figure most people wouldn't bother typing her last name since it's so easy to misspell. So yeah, it wouldn't hurt to send a feedback about that.
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Noms: Ken, Nightmare, Sub Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden(MGS), Knuckles, Sora
Chun-Li, Morrigan, Sheena, Cammy, Presea
Kaxon | Posted 7/28/2006 9:38:44 AM | message detail
Is it worth a feedback ticket to ask Ceej to look individually at every entrant that gets X number of nominations and combine them when necessary?

Yes. I submitted an Ask GameFAQs ticket about that before the nominations went up. As far as I'm concerned, the more people that complain, the better. It especially worries me since "Chrono" is just a mistake but Aeris's name is spelled two different ways in the actual GAMES.
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Nominate Aeris for SC2k6
TessaTestarossa | Posted 7/28/2006 9:40:11 AM | message detail
Well he specified on the form to say Crono, Aeris, etc.

He never mentioned first or last names, and other things.
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TessaTestarossa | Posted 7/28/2006 9:43:07 AM | message detail
Message From TessaTestarossa at 2006-07-28 16:42:43
Several of us on Board 8 are worried since your Daily Grind post about people nominating Crhono. I know you specified on the form this time to spell correctly and use english names (Aeris) and for that we are thankful, but we now have another issue. Do we use first and last name or just first? Even on the bracket, we don't always know if you'll use both names - Cloud's last name of Strife is never mentioned in the game, for instance. So people nominating, say, Celes from FFVI seem to be splitting the nominations between Celes and Celes Chere.

And if I may ask one more quick question, do more generic &quot;characters&quot; have a shot in the contest? We're talking Midgar Zolom, or random pokemon.
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Sousuke!!
UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/28/2006 9:48:54 AM | message detail
Do we use first and last name or just first?

Did you actually read the nomination form?

And LOL at stats topic people who still like to think KHF never happened. You people crack me up.

"Sephiroth was only an optional boss fight!" ranks right up there with "Vincent was only an optional character!" when it comes to a lack of common sense. It's related to FF7. Optional means squat.

~*ST*~
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Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 9:49:45 AM | message detail
Since it looks like it's going to be crucial in the upcoming contest, I'd like to know everyone's thoughts on the Aeris/Tifa/Zelda trio. I'd go with Tifa > Aeris > Zelda, but I wouldn't exclude any combination.

One thing's for sure, though: assuming there's no ToC, I can't possibly see Vincent coming back. We'll already be having Cloud and Sephiroth on one side, and either Aeris or Tifa missing the cut is highly unlikely. I seriously doubt CJayC would go so far as to put FIVE FF7 characters in the contest.
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Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 9:50:33 AM | message detail
...wait. Dunno why I said "for sure". Still, I wouldn't go expecting that.
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
Draco1214 | Posted 7/28/2006 9:50:44 AM | message detail
Considering what Vincent did in the last contest, he should definitely be in, though I'd be worried about his chances.
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TessaTestarossa | Posted 7/28/2006 9:53:30 AM | message detail
Vincent only did marginally better than Cid or Rufus or other fan favorites from FFVII would have done. It's not him, it's FFVII.

Now maybe after Dirge of Cerberus you'd have a point, but I really don't think it's Vincent. It's FFVII.
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Sousuke!!
Draco1214 | Posted 7/28/2006 9:53:57 AM | message detail
From the nomination form:

Use a character's full name when possible, and make sure you spell the character's name correctly, as it is used in the English-language version of the game (i.e. "Crono", "Aeris").

I really hope Sheena doesn't get snubbed because of her last name.
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Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac
Currently Playing - Suikoden V, Street Fighter Alpha 3, New Super Mario Bros.
Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 9:54:19 AM | message detail
I agree that he should come back in a gimmickless bracket, but as I said, bringing him back in a split bracket means a big representation problem.

And I just realized that the female bracket could become THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE. Tifa, Aeris, Terra and Celes. ALL FOUR OF THEM. Ugh.
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/28/2006 9:54:59 AM | message detail
I seriously doubt CJayC would go so far as to put FIVE FF7 characters in the contest.

It's a popularity contest, so obviously putting the most popular characters in makes no sense. We need a shakeup for the sake of variety.

</sarcasm>

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Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 9:58:43 AM | message detail
...I don't get where you're going with that, but whatever. Out of the actual 64 most popular characters on this site, you probably have 10 FF7 characters, and a lot more from other FFs. While a popularity contest NEEDS the strongest entrants, there are limits to how far to go when it comes to representation from a single game/series.
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/28/2006 10:00:51 AM | message detail
I hope Magus doesn't get snubbed this year...
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Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 10:01:37 AM | message detail
I wouldn't worry about that. I'm far more concerned for Diablo, after what happened in this contest.
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
meche313 | Posted 7/28/2006 10:03:04 AM | message detail
I think we don't need Diablo for next year.
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Currently playing: Zelda: Alttp, Donkey Kong Country, Rogue Squadron II. Resident Evil: Code Veronica X, Kirby SuperStar
Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 10:03:49 AM | message detail
We don't need the strongest non-Square RPG character, huh? Interesting idea.
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
meche313 | Posted 7/28/2006 10:07:02 AM | message detail
When characters like Magus, Ganondorf, Auron and Knuckles, Ryu Hayabusa are on the edge of being snubbed, Diablo shouldn't have a spot on this next contest. It's not like it's a powerhouse or something. First round Lose? No thanks.
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“Impossible is a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit.” - Vyse
Currently playing: Zelda: Alttp, Donkey Kong Country, Rogue Squadron II. Resident Evil: Code Veronica X, Kirby SuperStar
Draco1214 | Posted 7/28/2006 10:07:21 AM | message detail
I'd much rather see Vincent, or even Ness, in the bracket rather than Diablo.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/28/2006 10:08:22 AM | message detail
So, you're basically telling me every last RPG character on the male bracket HAS to be from Square? Riiiiiight.
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM