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Slowflake | Posted 7/27/2006 9:35:29 PM | message detail
Oh, and I just noticed the votals for MG/KH. What the HELL happened?
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Slowflake | Posted 7/27/2006 9:36:05 PM | message detail
Another SSB gain. Jesus.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/27/2006 9:36:49 PM | message detail
The fact that Mario has been relegated to endless streams of remakes aside from NSMB on the handhelds has pissed me off from day one. At this point, I've almost given up on Nintendo handheld games (shocking, but I prefer their console material far more).

I think that's certainly valid, to be sort of angry at nintendo for whoring Mario like they do. But on the other hand, it's a great way to visit classics without having a functional super nintendo set up, portability, and the like. It's "cheap" by Nintendo in that it's unoriginal, but it's still a lot of fun to play old games on the gba.
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transience | Posted 7/27/2006 9:37:11 PM | message detail
uhh.. 55-45, CT. woulda said the same before this match I think.

you know, I can't help but think about SMW beating Sonic 2 worse than the entire Mario series is beating SSB/M. that's crazy.

people love SSBM on this site. I'm scared to death of overestimating it right now though.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/27/2006 9:37:15 PM | message detail
Take a wild guess as to what is far and away the most popular Nintendo 64 game to play online via emulator is. I'll even give you three tries.

The instant a GameCube emulator is released with online play, the fanbase for the original SSB will sink faster than the freaking Titanic.

That won't be for another few years, though, so stubborn elitists don't need to get sweat on their brow just yet.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/27/2006 9:37:29 PM | message detail
Metal Gear and Kingdom Hearts are two very popular series, believe it or not!
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/27/2006 9:37:49 PM | message detail
SMB is doing better than I thought. I figured SSB would snatch up 40% of the votes, and it'll come close.
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2006 9:38:56 PM | message detail
Link to the Past beats Mario 3 with a measly 52%. If you would have taken SSBM over Mario 3 before this performance, what's stopping you from taking it over LttP?

Unless you think LttP has boosted since then (even though Mario related things have seemingly benefitted more than anything else recently from the Ninty boost). And even then, there's still Chrono Trigger, which is probably constant or perhaps even a little weaker.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/27/2006 9:38:58 PM | message detail
Just think about Brawl, transience. You're essentially taking an bulked up SSBM and adding ONLINE PLAY and unquestionably the GREATEST CAST OF CHARACTERS IN GAMING HISTORY. Gives me shivers.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/27/2006 9:39:04 PM | message detail
The instant a GameCube emulator is released with online play, the fanbase for the original SSB will sink faster than the freaking Titanic.

As much as you'd like to downplay Super Smash Brothers's popularity, this doesn't do it.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/27/2006 9:39:31 PM | message detail
The instant a GameCube emulator is released with online play, the fanbase for the original SSB will sink faster than the freaking Titanic.

SSBB will do that first =p

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/27/2006 9:40:06 PM | message detail
I don't think SSB's fanbase completely drops once there's emulation online for GC. what reason is there to not vote SSB just because it's not SSBM, but you netplayed it?
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BeTheMan | Posted 7/27/2006 9:40:07 PM | message detail
I'd actually give Melee a slight nod over CT at this point...say, 50.5 - 49.5. I'm still a little shellshocked about this match, though, so that's probably swaying me a bit.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/27/2006 9:40:50 PM | message detail
If you would have taken SSBM over Mario 3 before this performance, what's stopping you from taking it over LttP?

To me, unless some game/series/character proves otherwise, Zelda is the god of all things Nintendo. I'll take Ocarina and LttP over anything else.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/27/2006 9:40:50 PM | message detail
Oh, great. Suddenly SSBM is right behind FF7 and OoT.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/27/2006 9:41:24 PM | message detail
You know, I'd love to see another Games Contest with Chrono Trigger and SSBM in the same division. This board would eat that upset up.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/27/2006 9:41:54 PM | message detail
I'm kinda apprehensive about Brawl, personally. While SSBM was about ten leapfrogs ahead of SSB, SSBB just seems like SSBM Ver. 1.1 with online play. The removal of certain characters and "adjusted game speed" don't help my concerns.

The truncated development time also has me worried. The SSBB team was only fully assembled in December of last year. So, by the time it's released, it'll have been worked on for less than 2 years... :/ Less time than SSBM, and SSBB is expected to up the ante with more content and everything.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2006 9:42:04 PM | message detail
To me, unless some game/series/character proves otherwise, Zelda is the god of all things Nintendo. I'll take Ocarina and LttP over anything else.

Okay, understandable. So, how about CT?
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/27/2006 9:42:12 PM | message detail
the GREATEST CAST OF CHARACTERS IN GAMING HISTORY.

OH GOD WHEN WAS THE PRINCE CONFIRMED?!

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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/27/2006 9:42:14 PM | message detail
GREATEST CAST OF CHARACTERS IN GAMING HISTORY.

Marvel vs Capcom.
But you have a valid point. That one game (brawl) can change everything for all the characters involved. I just hope Mega Man gets some deserved boost from that game.
FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/27/2006 9:43:05 PM | message detail
I'm kinda apprehensive about Brawl, personally. While SSBM was about ten leapfrogs ahead of SSB, SSBB just seems like SSBM Ver. 1.1 with online play. The removal of certain characters and "adjusted game speed" don't help my concerns.

The truncated development time also has me worried. The SSBB team was only fully assembled in December of last year. So, by the time it's released, it'll have been worked on for less than 2 years... :/ Less time than SSBM, and SSBB is expected to up the ante with more content and everything.


I unfortunately completely agree. I really don't want it to be rushed, and also feel like it should have been in progress a long time ago.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/27/2006 9:43:30 PM | message detail
OT, but I've been curious about this. Since last year, I've read that CT characters have been getting weaker thoughout the contests. LttP vs CT part 2?
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/27/2006 9:43:37 PM | message detail
So, how about CT?

Nope, I'll play it safe and stick with Chrono Trigger. Guess that puts SSBM fifth on my list.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2006 9:43:46 PM | message detail
"You know, playing with Snake and Kirby in SSBB reminds me that Mega Man is really cool."

"Yeah! I'll be sure to vote for him in the next GameFAQs Contest!"

COMING SOON
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/27/2006 9:43:56 PM | message detail

The truncated development time also has me worried. The SSBB team was only fully assembled in December of last year. So, by the time it's released, it'll have been worked on for less than 2 years... :/ Less time than SSBM, and SSBB is expected to up the ante with more content and everything.


The jump from 64 to GC >>>>>>>> jump from GC to Wii.

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transience | Posted 7/27/2006 9:44:00 PM | message detail
I know Leon still takes CT, but I think he's in the minority. I take LTTP.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/27/2006 9:44:03 PM | message detail
Since last year, I've read that CT characters have been getting weaker thoughout the contests

Meh, that was just Frog and Magus getting exposed. Crono was basically static.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/27/2006 9:44:28 PM | message detail
Ocarina and LttP over anything else.

I always wondered how Majoras Mask would do against LTTP. Forget about that Zelda poll. More OOT's votes would goto Majoras Mask than LTTP me thinks.
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2006 9:44:40 PM | message detail
I know Leon still takes CT, but I think he's in the minority. I take LTTP.

I was talking about in a match with SSBM. =P
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transience | Posted 7/27/2006 9:44:59 PM | message detail
and I was talking to TCA!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/27/2006 9:45:14 PM | message detail
He was responding to TCA, KH. You're not that important!
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Slowflake | Posted 7/27/2006 9:45:19 PM | message detail
I didn't like what I saw of Crono last year. Especially against a Megaman that almost lost to Sonic.

Sure, Sonic was stronger, but that's only part of it, I think.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/27/2006 9:45:20 PM | message detail
If SSBB sucks, I'll be too busy playing Super Mario Galaxy to care.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2006 9:45:21 PM | message detail
DAMMIT
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2006 9:46:09 PM | message detail
Ah, but you admit that I am important.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/27/2006 9:46:16 PM | message detail
I really don't see why people are discouraged by what Crono did against Mega Man. That was almost exactly what the 2004 stats predicted.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/27/2006 9:46:55 PM | message detail
Yeah, but I think Megaman dropped a little too. Which is my entire point.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/27/2006 9:47:03 PM | message detail
The truncated development time also has me worried. The SSBB team was only fully assembled in December of last year. So, by the time it's released, it'll have been worked on for less than 2 years... :/ Less time than SSBM, and SSBB is expected to up the ante with more content and everything.

Delays, my friend. Nintendo aren't stupid; they realize this is one of their big money series now, so the game won't be released until the big N says it's ready. Whether or not that's actually a good thing is a matter of opinion.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2006 9:47:15 PM | message detail
Because Mega Man almost lost to Sonic! AND SONIC IS SO WEAK
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Slowflake | Posted 7/27/2006 9:47:31 PM | message detail
Nintendo aren't Blizzard, either.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/27/2006 9:47:39 PM | message detail
Meh, that was just Frog and Magus getting exposed. Crono was basically static.

Even if CT maintained its strength, wouldn't the boost Nintendo received last year help LttP?
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Phediuk | Posted 7/27/2006 9:48:31 PM | message detail
People complain about Twilight Princess' delays, but Ocarina of Time was pushed back from February of 1997 all the way to November of 1998.

Nintendo isn't good with release dates.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/27/2006 9:48:33 PM | message detail
Nintendo aren't?

Yeah, I know that's technically correct, but that always drives me crazy. Drove me crazy the entire time I was watching the World Cup.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/27/2006 9:48:44 PM | message detail
Believe it or not, it's perfectly possible for Megaman to drop a little and Sonic to increase a little. The margin was wide enough in 2004 to allow that.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 7/27/2006 9:49:45 PM | message detail
Nintendo aren't?

Yeah, I know that's technically correct,


...it is? Why?
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Eggplant Lord | Posted 7/27/2006 9:49:51 PM | message detail
I am completely anxious about SSBB. I could see it turning out absolutely mediocre, and that would ruin a lot of what Nintendo has managed to hype about the Wii. Continuing to play SSBM with SSBB out would be disappointing in itself.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2006 9:49:53 PM | message detail
I am a proponent of Crono dropping a smidge in 2k5 (though only a smidge). Which makes my confidence in him taking Samus even lower.

It's all up to you, Mega Man! YOU'RE OUR ONLY HOPE!
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/27/2006 9:49:57 PM | message detail
Nintendo aren't Blizzard, either.

No, but close. TP was supposed to come out summer 2005. I've never seen a Nintendo 1st party game not delayed, except maybe Pikmin.
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/27/2006 9:49:59 PM | message detail
Even if CT maintained its strength, wouldn't the boost Nintendo received last year help LttP?

I personally believe the Nintendo "boost" was partially in effect in 2004 as well. FFVII beat OoT with ease and Link still went berserk in the Character Contest.

I'd take Chrono Trigger primarily because I know I'd be in the minority, but I still believe it can win.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/27/2006 9:50:11 PM | message detail
SSB is still gaining!

I hate to play devil's advocate, but do you guys think there would be any difference if Ness and G&W were replaced with Link and Samus?
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