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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 3:19:25 PM | message detail
I think that depends on if noms get moved to the front page or not. if it doesn't, Jay Solano is so getting a 1 seed.

For sure. But with the way it's been lately, I'm thinking it'll be board only. The only good I'm finding in this is Cloud/Link now has a chance to take place before TP, provided Ceej keeps his ass in gear.

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creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:19:51 PM | message detail
Terrible, god-awful idea.

And I'm wondering if Link will end up being one of the most nominated characters anyway.

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Heroic NPC | Posted 7/26/2006 3:20:01 PM | message detail
Oh man, I can't wait for Jay Solano vs. Gordon Freeman.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/26/2006 3:20:19 PM | message detail
I will feel insulted if we don't have people nominating The Boss en masse.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 3:20:43 PM | message detail
If Jay Solano/GF ever happened, I'd honestly have to vote for Solano.

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Tediz247 | Posted 7/26/2006 3:21:22 PM | message detail
From Tatsumaki Senpuu Posted 7/26/2006 5:20:19 PM #254
I will feel insulted if we don't have people nominating The Boss en masse.

She was my first nomination, male or female :)
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Heroic NPC | Posted 7/26/2006 3:21:50 PM | message detail
By the way, we need a Ken Masters rally.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 3:22:27 PM | message detail
My female nominations:

God Dammit Ceej
Why The Crunk Did
You Have To Do This
To Us You Sick, Sick
Bastard Something
Is Wrong With You
SRSLY WTF?

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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/26/2006 3:22:45 PM | message detail
Not sure if Ryu is getting in, Ken Master could possibly be the weakest male character if nominated...
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 3:27:25 PM | message detail
I seriously doubt the main Character Battle will be board nominations only.
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creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:28:10 PM | message detail
We have a great chance of seeing some huge seeding injustices here...depending on what the bracket looks like, even powerhouse males could get bad seeds.

Yuna seeded higher than Snake anyone?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 3:28:25 PM | message detail
No, if Nightmare gets in, he'll be weaker than Ken. We MIGHT be nominating the weakest male in the field, heh.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 3:29:18 PM | message detail
Nah, Yuna won't be seeded higher than Snake.

Mega Man, Solid Snake, and Sonic are all but guaranteed the 1 seeds in the male half (of course, we're assuming that's how it will be done). Who will the other be?
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
trannyscience | Posted 7/26/2006 3:29:49 PM | message detail
Yuna seeded higher than Snake anyone?

that would only happen if they're put in the same bracket. I'd expect something like a female half and a male half.
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Tediz247 | Posted 7/26/2006 3:30:01 PM | message detail
Master Chief, if the nominations are on the front for a while.
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creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:30:32 PM | message detail
You know, I'm having a helluva time thinking of males who might actually have a shot to make it, and who I'd actually want to nominate.

Midgar Zolom, Frog and Crono are all I have so far.
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creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:31:11 PM | message detail
that would only happen if they're put in the same bracket. I'd expect something like a female half and a male half.

Who knows though? We could get traditional, split, or teams.
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trannyscience | Posted 7/26/2006 3:32:25 PM | message detail
Who knows though? We could get traditional, split, or teams.

yeah, I would have a better idea of who to nominate if I knew what format the bracket was going to be. right now I have no idea.

I'm enjoying thinking about Link/Mario vs. Cloud/Seph, but otherwise I'm really skeptical of any tag-team setup.
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Heroic NPC | Posted 7/26/2006 3:36:49 PM | message detail
Ugh, I do not want to see tag teams.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 3:37:45 PM | message detail
Link/Mario defeats Cloud/Sephiroth, I think. And rather easily at that.
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creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:38:15 PM | message detail
One of the big questions for teams, is how would they be paired up?

Males with the most noms with females with the most noms? Or males with the most noms with females with the fewest noms?

And in the latter case, what would the seeding for the team be? (this problem is why I think the former might be more likely, in case of teams)
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/26/2006 3:38:21 PM | message detail
I hope Tron gets a good seed >_>
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creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:38:55 PM | message detail
Link/Mario defeats Cloud/Sephiroth, I think. And rather easily at that.

I'm not convinced they'd win. And NO WAY either side would win easily.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 3:39:09 PM | message detail
Well, the thing about pairing up males with females...what do you do with Link, Cloud, Sephy, and Mario?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 3:39:51 PM | message detail
Cloud and Sephiroth's problem is being characters from the same game, at least in my view. That's why I'd take Link and Mario over them.
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creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:40:12 PM | message detail
Link/Sephiroth vs. Cloud/Mario might be have even higher vote totals though than L/M vs. C/S.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 3:40:42 PM | message detail
Now THAT would be an interesting match I'd rather see.
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Starion | Posted 7/26/2006 3:40:43 PM | message detail
Link with Tifa
Mario with Aeris
Sephiroth with Samus
Cloud with Tingle
Phediuk | Posted 7/26/2006 3:41:25 PM | message detail
You know, I'm getting really tired of these, because the outcome of the contest is so painfully obvious by this point. But since I've already come this far...

*COMPARISONS GAME- (1) Metal Gear vs. (2) Kingdom Hearts*

Sales

Despite the superb sales of KH and KH2, I'm going to--you know what? I'm sick of writing stuff for each section.

Advantage: Metal Gear

Hype

Metal Gear:

MGS4, blah, blah, blah.

Kingdom Hearts:

KH2, hype starting to die down, etc.

Advantage: Metal Gear

Number of Games

Metal Gear:

Metal Gear (NES, 1988)
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (MSX, 1990)
Metal Gear Solid (PSX, 1998)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (PS2, 2001)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2, 2004)

Spinoffs/ports-

Metal Gear (MSX, 1987)
Metal Gear (PC, 1988)
Metal Gear (C64, 1988)
Snake's Revenge (NES, 1990)
Metal Gear Solid: Integral (PSX, 1999)
Metal Gear Solid: VR Missions (PSX, 1999)
Metal Gear Solid (PC, 2000)
Metal Gear Solid (GBC, 2000)
The Document of Metal Gear Solid 2 (PS2, 2002)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance (Xbox, 2002)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance (PS2, 2003)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance (PC, 2003)
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (GC, 2004)
Metal Gear (Mobile, 2004)
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (Mobile, 2004)
Metal Gear Acid (PSP, 2005)
Metal Gear Acid 2 (PSP, 2006)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence (PS2, 2006)

Total- 23
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Kingdom Hearts:

Main series-

Kingdom Hearts (PS2, 2002)
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (GBA, 2004)
Kingdom Hearts II (PS2, 2006)

Spinoffs/ports-

Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix (PS2, 2002)

Total- 4

Advantage: Metal Gear

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs:

Metal Gear:

Metal Gear- 11
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake- 7
Metal Gear Solid- 39
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty- 50
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater- 41
Total- 148

Kingdom Hearts:

Kingdom Hearts- 48
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories- 24
Kingdom Hearts II- 42
Total- 114

Advantage: Metal Gear
creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:41:29 PM | message detail
Link and Mario overlap a lot too.

And the Cloud/Sephiroth overlap never manifested in Cloud/Sephiroth SFF.

Also Cloud is a near match for Link by himself. Sephiroth easily outdoes Mario.

Link/Mario would probably be the favorites, but no one should be confident about it at all.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/26/2006 3:41:40 PM | message detail
Average review score/Number of reviews:

Metal Gear:

Metal Gear- 8.14 (28)
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake- 9.65 (17)
Metal Gear Solid- 8.98 (64)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty- 8.79 (62)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater- 9.48 (77)
Series average- 9.01 (248)

Kingdom Hearts:

Kingdom Hearts- 8.75 (95)
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories- 7.76 (55)
Kingdom Hearts II- 8.61 (72)
Series average- 8.37 (222)

Board activity:

MGS3:S is larger than KHII. Hmm.

Advantage: Metal Gear

Board Odds Project

Match prediction:

Metal Gear- 99
Kingdom Hearts- 30
Halo- 3

Mm.

Advantage: Metal Gear

Point value:

Metal Gear- 795
Kingdom Hearts- 448

Mm.

Advantage: Metal Gear

Previous contest representation

Metal Gear:

SC2002-

Solid Snake (9th)

SC2003-

Solid Snake (8th)
Raiden (59th)

Sp2004-

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (18th)
Metal Gear Solid (21st)
Metal Gear (48th)

SC2004-

Solid Snake (11th)
Liquid Snake (16th)

Sp2005-

Revolver Ocelot (5th)
Liquid Snake (11th)

SC2005-

Solid Snake (8th)
Revolver Ocelot (64th)

Top 100-

Metal Gear Solid (#8)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (#21)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (#41)

Kingdom Hearts:

SC2003-

Sora (39th)

Sp2004-

Kingdom Hearts (13th)

SC2004-

Sora (13th)

Sp2005-

Ansem (12th)

SC2005-

Sora (30th)
Riku (45th)

Top 100-

Kingdom Hearts (#16)

Advantage: Metal Gear

Intangibles

I don't give a crap if KH is Square and an RPG, because we all know MG is going to win.

Advantage: Metal Gear

Conclusion

Trivia: Kingdom Hearts>Metal Gear is the big upset pick in my bracket. WHOOPSIE DAISY. MG with 62%.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 7/26/2006 3:41:46 PM | message detail
Also because the team with Link will win; I don't buy a Shadow/Dante team beating Link/CATS.
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creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:43:07 PM | message detail
Not Shadow/Dante, but what about Snake/Samus or Crono/Mario?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/26/2006 3:44:06 PM | message detail
From Phediuk Posted 7/26/2006 5:38:16 PM #203
My noms so far:

Jay Solano
Mewtwo
Phoenix Wright
Midgar Zolom
Ike
CATS

Lyndis
Princess Peach
Carmen Sandiego
Nidoran F


*sucks you off*

You are made of awesome and win.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/26/2006 3:44:07 PM | message detail
This had better not be teams. I have never liked the idea of that at all.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/26/2006 3:45:59 PM | message detail
From creativename Posted 7/26/2006 6:19:51 PM #252
Terrible, god-awful idea.

And I'm wondering if Link will end up being one of the most nominated characters anyway.


What he said.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/26/2006 3:47:25 PM | message detail
This match is about 800 behind Final Fantasy/Mega Man, so it looks like another match might beat Mario/Crono II.
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therealmnm | Posted 7/26/2006 3:47:50 PM | message detail
Who in the stats topic has the balls to nominate Epona???

A ****ing horse?!

1. therealmnm
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/26/2006 3:49:01 PM | message detail
I don't care if the contest might be done before TP comes out (it won't be done by then), I'm still nominating Midna.
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cyko | Posted 7/26/2006 3:49:05 PM | message detail
for anyone looking for females to nominate, here's ideas from some of my favorite females:

Mai Shiranui (King of Fighters)
Jeane (Suikoden)
Jessica (Dragon Quest 8)
Jam Kuradoberi (Guilty Gear)
Lulu (Final Fantasy X)
Tethys (Fire Emblem)

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rpgapzx | Posted 7/26/2006 3:50:31 PM | message detail
We really need to pair down the Nomination Rally to 3 characters... and perhaps Nominate Rally 3 females really quickly.


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creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:51:40 PM | message detail
I can't believe I'm saying this, but with 32 female characters, Epona could well make it given a decent nomination rally.

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trannyscience | Posted 7/26/2006 3:51:53 PM | message detail
the only female I'm definite on right now is KOS-MOS. I highly doubt nominations will be closed before the contest is over, so there's still a lot of time to think about it.

I don't like how this is overshadowing this current contest.. I hope people are talking about Zelda/FF when the time comes and not nominations. I assume the nomination talk will go away after a day or two though.
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creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:52:56 PM | message detail
If Epona can manage a Zolom-sized rally, she'll be in (whereas the Zolom is extremely doubtful since it's male).
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Big Bob | Posted 7/26/2006 3:53:03 PM | message detail
The only thing Jessica has going for her is TJF. >.>

Seriously, it's like the creators wanted the player to focus on her breasts the whole game.
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Buzzup | Posted 7/26/2006 3:53:25 PM | message detail
If Knuckles can't make this contest due to this 32 female thing, heads are gonna roll. <_<
cyko | Posted 7/26/2006 3:53:35 PM | message detail
I haven't even noticed when we've had a poll below the contest match...

we had polls below the contest matches? that's news to me.

also - does Ceej getting the nominations up this sonn mean that he will immediately post the bracket after the series contest ends? it could happen.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/26/2006 3:54:34 PM | message detail
Here is what I came up with!!

Your Male Character Nominations
Solid Snake
Raiden
Alucard
Tidus
The Prince of Persia
Seifer Almasy
Captain Falcon

Your Female Character Nominations
The Boss
Tifa Lockhart
Aeris Gainsborough
Yuffie Kisaragi
Trone Bonne
Celes Chere
Sheena Fujibayashi

Huzzah, folks!

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creativename | Posted 7/26/2006 3:56:13 PM | message detail
PoP, Seifer and Captain Falcon can't make it, I think.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/26/2006 3:56:21 PM | message detail
also - does Ceej getting the nominations up this sonn mean that he will immediately post the bracket after the series contest ends? it could happen.

That's what I'm hoping. Ideally, we get the bracket August 1st and maybe a mid-August start, if not September 1st at the latest, which is very good.

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