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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 329

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Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 2:37:51 PM | message detail
Shadow needs it more than Knuckles! But I wouldn't mind if either character made it.
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Legend of Zelda vs. Metroid - Bracket: LoZ - Vote: Metroid (30/32)
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 2:38:01 PM | message detail
And I guess I can wish Vyse farewell for one contest.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Phediuk | Posted 7/26/2006 2:38:16 PM | message detail
My noms so far:

Jay Solano
Mewtwo
Phoenix Wright
Midgar Zolom
Ike
CATS

Lyndis
Princess Peach
Carmen Sandiego
Nidoran F
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 2:38:47 PM | message detail
Yeah, this really does suck, and I feel like I want to reneg on the nomination rally, but then it defeats the entire purpose of it.... I mean honestly, 5 males from the nomination rally (one of them is my love though), one to the guru (it'll most likely be a male), and then what? One spot for a male of my choice? 'Tis sucktitude ceej.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 2:39:53 PM | message detail
No kidding. I want to nominate Squall just because he's my favorite, but...he's almost certain to get it. Tidus might need it though.

And then there's Serge, Laguna, or Seifer. And I can only get one of those.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Tediz247 | Posted 7/26/2006 2:40:52 PM | message detail
I'm really wishing I hadn't committed to Captain Falcon now. I just know he'll be fodderific, and other characters need it more.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 2:42:11 PM | message detail
Captain Falcon? I'm more regretting Nightmare at this point.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 2:42:57 PM | message detail
God DAMMIT Ceej. 7 females? It's like he's trying to ruin the males.... unless in some wacky turn of events it's a 64 entrant field with 128 characters, male/female teams! Okay, okay, I'll sit in the corner now.

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Tediz247 | Posted 7/26/2006 2:43:07 PM | message detail
Fortunately, I didn't sign up for him >_>
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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/26/2006 2:43:21 PM | message detail
Fire Emblem > Soul Calibur! Forget Nightmare, nominate Lyn and Ike!
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Luigi, Magus, Kefka, Ike, Alucard, Phoenix Wright
Lyn, Peach, Celes, Lenneth, Presea, Alex Roivas
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 2:43:35 PM | message detail
Fo' reals. I'm dreading typing "Nightmare" into that spot. So far the only nominations I've entered is the Prince and Raiden.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 2:43:40 PM | message detail
Fortunately.

You know, if I hadn't already nominated them, I might have considered backing down from Nightmare and/or Falcon.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Big Bob | Posted 7/26/2006 2:43:57 PM | message detail
I don't even remember who I committed to nominating, but oh well, they'll get in anyway.

Except maybe Nightmare.

As for women, nominate Lyndis (Fire Emblem), Peach, and Ada Wong.
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lettuce Kefka | Posted 7/26/2006 2:44:01 PM | message detail
I have a bad feeling the male/female nominations could screw the vote rallying.
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Nominate the Midgar Zolom for SC2K6
lettuce Kefka | Posted 7/26/2006 2:44:24 PM | message detail
*nomination
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 2:44:47 PM | message detail
Nightmare can be strong! Nightmare > Soul Calibur!

Yeah...let me dream. Oh well, safe to say I'm happy I commited to no one so I could nominate my usual 5, but still...cursed females.
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Legend of Zelda vs. Metroid - Bracket: LoZ - Vote: Metroid (30/32)
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 2:47:56 PM | message detail
Hey, I know how we can still get new FFVIII representation!

Nominate Quistis!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
therealmnm | Posted 7/26/2006 2:49:14 PM | message detail
I actually nominated Yuffie for my FF rep. <_<;
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC
Janus5000 | Posted 7/26/2006 2:49:58 PM | message detail
Quistis? Pffft.

FUJIN. NOMINATE.

...PLEASE.

...how do you capitalize a shifty eyes? >_>
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 2:50:05 PM | message detail
Yuffie?!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Tediz247 | Posted 7/26/2006 2:50:50 PM | message detail
Crap, I forgot Fujin. There's still a chance if a guru winner isn't chosen though...
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trannyscience | Posted 7/26/2006 2:51:54 PM | message detail
hmm.. I want to nominate Akuma, but with limited space + no rally in sight, I might need to pass. still not sure what to do.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 2:52:54 PM | message detail
Yeah, that's my problem with Serge, Seifer, and Laguna. With an exceptionally limited number of males a possibility, the chances of them getting in are extremely slim.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 2:55:20 PM | message detail
Seifer had my nomination just up until I found out about this crappy nomination system! I don't think I've ever nominated a female.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 2:55:56 PM | message detail
Also, Ceej could have helped us out by making Androgynous characters count as female.

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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/26/2006 2:56:21 PM | message detail
Tidus and Knuckle nominated.
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 2:56:35 PM | message detail
Yeah, I know. I could've snuck Raiden in under females.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Phediuk | Posted 7/26/2006 2:57:38 PM | message detail
Alright, time to play a little game of...

Probability of Return by Character

I'm going to group all of the characters from SC2K5 into five groups: Definitely Returning, Probably Returning, Good Chance of Returning, Maybe Returning, Doubtfully Returning, and Not Returning.

We already know that Link/Cloud/Seph/Mario are returning, so I won't include them.

Definitely Returning:

Crono
Mega Man
Sonic the Hedgehog
Solid Snake
Samus

Probably Returning:

Bowser
Squall Leonheart
Kirby
Zelda
Tifa Lockheart
Zero
Luigi
Master Chief
Donkey Kong
Ryu
Tidus
Ganondorf
Sora
Yoshi

Good Chance of Returning:

Vincent Valentine
Dante
Knuckles
Magus
Leon Kennedy
Rikku
Auron
Chun-Li
Alucard
Gordon Freeman
Yuna
KOS-MOS
CATS
Pac-Man

Maybe Returning:

Vivi
Kefka
Riku
Terra
Joanna Dark
Sarah Kerrigan
Ness

Doubtfully Returning:

Diablo
Ryu Hayabusa
Tommy Vercetti
Sam Fisher
Kratos Aurion
Frog
Kratos
Conker
Zidane
Cecil
Lloyd Irving
King of All Cosmos
Vyse
Carl Johnson
Revolver Ocelot

Not Returning:

Jin Kazama
Geno
Wesker
Agent 47
Big Boss
Laharl
Manny Calavera
Yuri
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therealmnm | Posted 7/26/2006 2:58:24 PM | message detail
Yuffie?!

Problem? I actually like her better than any of the FFVIII females. We've already seen Terra bomb... After Cecil's bombing, I wouldn't nominate any FFIV or FFV character... I don't really care for anybody in FFX, and the FFIX females would probably bomb too.

Goooooo Yuffie!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 2:58:31 PM | message detail
I'm not sure I'd give Tidus such a good chance of coming back.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Tediz247 | Posted 7/26/2006 3:00:16 PM | message detail
I nominated Knuckles because he seemed to need it most, but I still have deciding to do. A bunch of strong characters that might miss... crap.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 3:01:07 PM | message detail
Problem?

Only that Tifa and Aeris are essentially locks in this system, and I was wanting a second FFVIII rep before we got a sixth FFVII rep.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Tediz247 | Posted 7/26/2006 3:01:41 PM | message detail
I'd move Zelda and Tifa into definites. No way they miss in this system.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/26/2006 3:06:38 PM | message detail
Why is everyone assuming that it'll be divided? Perhaps Ceej is just using this as a means to guarentee a large shakeup in the bracket.

catching up, so I'm only here, but thank you! The quick leap seemed to be that it was half male, half female. It could just as well be a male/female combination type thing, no? If the answer's been more clarified, obviously this post is null.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/26/2006 3:06:47 PM | message detail
BTW, here's a list of every (clearly) female character to ever get into a contest. And I say "clearly" so I can exclude Mother Brain, because it's a damn computer, not a woman.

Samus Aran
Aeris Gainsborough
Claire Redfield
Jill Valentine
Morrigan Aensland
Kasumi
Lara Croft
Aya Brea
Tina Armstrong
Ulala
Ms. Pac-Man
Zelda
Yuna
KOS-MOS
Tifa Lockheart
Rikku
Chun-Li
Terra
Joanna Dark
Sarah Kerrigan

That's 20. And all about 8 of those are fodder. Ugh.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/26/2006 3:07:48 PM | message detail
I'd move Zelda and Tifa into definites. No way they miss in this system.

Whoops. Forgot about that. Strangely enough, I increased the chances of every other female character.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 3:09:02 PM | message detail
Honestly though... If he had just left it at 10 and 10 I wouldn't be mad, but this 7 and 7 **** is pissing the hell out of me. LEAVE YOUR ZANY SPINOFFS TO THE SUB-PAR SEASONS OF THE YEAR, SUMMER IS FOR CHARACTER BATTLES DAMMIT, NORMAL, TRADITIONAL CHARACTER BATTLES.

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Starion | Posted 7/26/2006 3:09:53 PM | message detail
Interesting. You could always pick female representatives from the games/series that appeared in contests before. Most of the characters (both male/ female) would end up fodder though.
Big Bob | Posted 7/26/2006 3:11:58 PM | message detail
Remember everyone, save a spot on each list for the Gurus to nominate when THIS contest is over. >.>

Damn me for forgetting about Meta-Knight right when I hit 6 nominations...
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trannyscience | Posted 7/26/2006 3:13:07 PM | message detail
I hate to resist change, but this has the potential to be awful. a contest with 32 girls is going to be fodderific, and if it's tag teams it's gonna be even worse.

ah well. let's hope it turns out well.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/26/2006 3:13:23 PM | message detail
Heh, my females list is filling up faster than my males list. Whenever I think of nominating a male, I figure that the character is pretty much guaranteed not to get in anyway, so what's the point?
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/26/2006 3:13:56 PM | message detail
I'm also hesitant about nominating all five of the offseason contest winners. I know we all committed to it, but between that and guru, like it's been said, that leaves us each with only one male spot.

I think, if it hasn't been done already, there should be an official topic with the five and maybe reduce them to three, somehow. There's probably enough time/enough people to effectively reduce the field. Also, with the insane participation that contest and guru both received, a lot of strong competitors could even miss the field if everyone's stuck nominating the same six characters. Bowser, Ganondorf, Yoshi, Dante, etc. If each can only be your seventh slot....well, I'd assume the number of available noms dwindles significantly.
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_Seer_ | Posted 7/26/2006 3:14:16 PM | message detail
I bet Vincent is going to be left out of the contest..
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Big Bob | Posted 7/26/2006 3:15:01 PM | message detail
Well, this could still work if he goes by how many nominations someone has. We might end up with a field of 50 guys and 14 girls, which is still more girls than the last contest.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 3:15:53 PM | message detail
I hate to resist change, but this has the potential to be awful. a contest with 32 girls is going to be fodderific, and if it's tag teams it's gonna be even worse.

ah well. let's hope it turns out well.


Agreed. I've always been a proponent for tag-team, but not in place of the traditional character battle. Hell, at least wait until we have a perfect bracket to even think about mixing it up. If work is put into making the bracket, it can be as unpredictable as hell, as far as I'm concerned, this is only going to make it more predictable.

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Starion | Posted 7/26/2006 3:16:02 PM | message detail
I personally don't care about fodder. I just want a bracket that is really unpredictable (even if it's mostly in the first round).
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 3:16:27 PM | message detail
Also, how funny would it be to see characters like Crono and Sonic end up with lower seeds than the nomination rally winners because of the lack of nominating space?

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trannyscience | Posted 7/26/2006 3:17:23 PM | message detail
I think that depends on if noms get moved to the front page or not. if it doesn't, Jay Solano is so getting a 1 seed.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/26/2006 3:17:40 PM | message detail
Heh I just realized how screwed Master Chief is if nominations don't go on the front page (and I'm doubting they will).
Zombies Yay | Posted 7/26/2006 3:18:09 PM | message detail
darn you cjay
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