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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2006 6:55:56 PM | message detail
The Boss will certainly get in, but she'd have to be doing real good to make it past the second round (assuming one side is all-female). Big Boss' performance doesn't inspire much hope.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/26/2006 6:56:08 PM | message detail
The Boss should do very well for herself, I think.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/26/2006 6:57:28 PM | message detail
Big Boss' performance doesn't inspire much hope.

I, personally, would take The Boss over Big Boss. They both are essentially limited to MGS3 -- Big Boss only gets mentioned every now and then in the other two MGS games, as you know -- and The Boss was far and away the most liked character to come out of that game.

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/26/2006 6:58:32 PM | message detail
I think The Boss's ceiling is Revolver Ocelot's level. I can't see why she would be stronger than him.
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Who Cares? | Posted 7/26/2006 6:58:59 PM | message detail
We need Tifa/Aeris & then the winner to face Zelda. No sense in wasting two great matches & throwing one of them to Samus before the finals just to make Samus' path tougher.
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NewLib | Posted 7/26/2006 7:00:23 PM | message detail
The Boss will most likely to be fodder.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/26/2006 7:00:44 PM | message detail
Samus could be challenged by Aeris, me thinks.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/26/2006 7:01:38 PM | message detail
The Boss will most likely to be fodder.

What's up, 95% of the Female Bracket.

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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/26/2006 7:01:49 PM | message detail
No. But but will Samus get SFF'd by Zelda?
Tediz247 | Posted 7/26/2006 7:01:50 PM | message detail
Samus, challenged by Aeris? Please. Sonic and Snake both comfortably beat Aeris. No reason a much stronger Samus couldn't do the same.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 7:01:56 PM | message detail
Samus could not be challenged by any female.... unless somehow Zelda serves up the biggest plate of rSFF we've ever seen, and I seriously doubt that's gonna happen. Regardless, Tifa/Aeris would be a pretty badass match.

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NewLib | Posted 7/26/2006 7:02:03 PM | message detail
No she couldnt. We know Samus can beat Sonic and Sonic beat Aeris.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/26/2006 7:02:23 PM | message detail
Considering how incredibly fodderific the female side of the bracket would be if Ceej decides to split the bracket between males and females, The Boss would actually perform decently then get crushed by a powerhouse (ie. Samus, Tifa, Zelda, or Aeris).
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/26/2006 7:02:56 PM | message detail
The only females that could challenge Samus are male.
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trannyscience | Posted 7/26/2006 7:03:08 PM | message detail
Tifa/Aeris would be the best match of an all-girl contest, and chances are it wouldn't be close. it'd only be good because it's unpredictable.

Samus would beat Aeris with at least 55% and it's unlikely Zelda does better than Ganondorf.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/26/2006 7:03:34 PM | message detail
Aeris (2003c) VS Zelda (2005c)

Aeris has a strength of 32.81.
Zelda has a strength of 33.71.

Zelda wins with 51.33% of the vote!
A win of 2,600 with 97,378 total votes cast.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/26/2006 7:04:24 PM | message detail
Let's ignore any increase Aerith could have gotten in the past three years, yeah.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 7:06:15 PM | message detail
Let's play some more Over/Under:

Over/Under: 2.5 Final Fantasy X characters in the bracket combined (males and females)

Over/Under: 2.5 Tales of Symphonia characters in the bracket combined

Over/Under: 3.5 Final Fantasy VII characters in the bracket combined

Over/Under: 1.5 Metal Gear characters in the bracket combined

Over/Under: 2.5 Final Fantasy VI characters in the bracket combined

Over/Under: 1.5 Sonic characters in the bracket combined

Over/Under: 1.5 Kingdom Hearts characters in the bracket combined

Over/Under: 2.5 Chrono Trigger characters in the bracket combined

Over/Under: 1.5 Mortal Kombat characters in the bracket combined

Over/Under: 2.5 Street Fighter characters in the bracket combined


Note: The .5 was used to avoid "Push" situations, just because I can.
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NewLib | Posted 7/26/2006 7:06:24 PM | message detail
True HM. The only females that have a chance of not being fodder are

Zelda
Samus
Tifa
Aeris
Yuffie
Peach
Chun-Li
Yuna
Rikku

Epona is a slight possibilty of escaping it. I dont know if any other fighter besides Chun-Li can. Sonya Blade is the first that comes to mind and she would be fodder. Rayne would be.

Really thats it.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/26/2006 7:08:02 PM | message detail
Alucard (2003c) VS Sora (2005c)

Alucard has a strength of 27.56.
Sora has a strength of 25.69.

Alucard wins with 53.39% of the vote!
A win of 6,003 with 88,477 total votes cast.

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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/26/2006 7:08:28 PM | message detail
Only FF7 and Metal Gear goes over.
trannyscience | Posted 7/26/2006 7:09:07 PM | message detail
Over: 2.5 Final Fantasy X characters in the bracket combined (males and females)

Under: 2.5 Tales of Symphonia characters in the bracket combined

Under: 3.5 Final Fantasy VII characters in the bracket combined

Over: 1.5 Metal Gear characters in the bracket combined

Under: 2.5 Final Fantasy VI characters in the bracket combined

Over: 1.5 Sonic characters in the bracket combined

Over: 1.5 Kingdom Hearts characters in the bracket combined

Over: 2.5 Chrono Trigger characters in the bracket combined

Under: 1.5 Mortal Kombat characters in the bracket combined

Under: 2.5 Street Fighter characters in the bracket combined
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Kratos_42 | Posted 7/26/2006 7:09:13 PM | message detail
Hey, let's talk about the currect contest. There's an idea. >_>
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 7:09:20 PM | message detail
I think Lulu from FFX would break the fodder line, too.
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Who Cares? | Posted 7/26/2006 7:10:00 PM | message detail
Cammy's the only other fighter I can think of, only cuz non-Ryu SFers are generally close to each other in strength.
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Chun-Li, Morrigan, Sheena
NewLib | Posted 7/26/2006 7:10:06 PM | message detail
Over/Under: 2.5 Final Fantasy X characters in the bracket combined (males and females)

Over. 4 will.

Over/Under: 2.5 Tales of Symphonia characters in the bracket combined

Under. Maybe 1.

Over/Under: 3.5 Final Fantasy VII characters in the bracket combined

Over. 5

Over/Under: 1.5 Metal Gear characters in the bracket combined

Over. Atleast 2, probably 3.

Over/Under: 2.5 Final Fantasy VI characters in the bracket combined

Under. Maybe 2.

Over/Under: 1.5 Sonic characters in the bracket combined

Over 2.

Over/Under: 1.5 Kingdom Hearts characters in the bracket combined

Under 1

Over/Under: 2.5 Chrono Trigger characters in the bracket combined

Under 2

Over/Under: 1.5 Mortal Kombat characters in the bracket combined

Over 2. I see Sub-Zero and Sonya getting in.

Over/Under: 2.5 Street Fighter characters in the bracket combined

This is a tough one. Ryu and Chun-Li are locks. Cammy could get in. Im going under.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 7/26/2006 7:21:40 PM | message detail
LOZ has now passed the vote record.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2006 7:22:10 PM | message detail
I'm referenced in at least two Crew writeups. You know what that means!
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/26/2006 7:22:40 PM | message detail
Lots of complaining about fodderific females, just to try to name as many as I personally can that would do all right for themselves.

Samus
Zelda
Aeris
Tifa
Peach
Yuna
Rikku
KOS-MOS
The Boss (probably would help if she had a name)
...whoa, break for a second, how come no one ever mentions Eva? we don't like her?, I'd say the boss and her do about the same...
Rinoa/Ultimacia (sp)/Quistis - one of them could do okay?
Jill Valentine
Yuffie
Kairi- eh, to an extent, at least (and another person I've not seen mentioned at all, but in her case, it's understandable)

so that's 13ish/32. I don't know, it just doesn't bother me as much as everyone else. Even though they're fodder, if they're well placed, it can still be fun.


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Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 7:22:48 PM | message detail
Nothing?
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/26/2006 7:23:21 PM | message detail
I posted this idea in another topic but I'll repost it here. How about making the tag-team concept like a real tag? Have one character start the match (preferably the weaker one), then the "anchor" will finish the match after 12 hours. This way even the weaker character can't easily be masked by the dominant partner. Thoughts?
DomaDragoon | Posted 7/26/2006 7:23:29 PM | message detail
Over/Under: 2.5 Final Fantasy X characters in the bracket combined (males and females)

One on each side, methinks.

Over/Under: 2.5 Tales of Symphonia characters in the bracket combined

Um... maybe we'll get Colette?

Over/Under: 3.5 Final Fantasy VII characters in the bracket combined

Biggest "duh" of the list. I mean, we've got two already confirmed, and it's not a stretch to think that two of the three main ladies will get in, let along the Angstmuffin.

Over/Under: 1.5 Metal Gear characters in the bracket combined

Snake's pretty well a lock, and Raiden's a Board Nom.

Over/Under: 2.5 Final Fantasy VI characters in the bracket combined

I seriously question if there will even be one FF VI character.

Over/Under: 1.5 Sonic characters in the bracket combined

He may be in danger, but I can't see Rad Red missing out.

Over/Under: 1.5 Kingdom Hearts characters in the bracket combined

But under if you don't count the cameos in that list.

Over/Under: 2.5 Chrono Trigger characters in the bracket combined

Methinks the Silent Death's going solo this time.

Over/Under: 1.5 Mortal Kombat characters in the bracket combined

Sorry, Steve.

Over/Under: 2.5 Street Fighter characters in the bracket combined

Yeah.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/26/2006 7:23:42 PM | message detail
chun-li, too, as newlib had in his list.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/26/2006 7:24:32 PM | message detail
I posted this idea in another topic but I'll repost it here. How about making the tag-team concept like a real tag? Have one character start the match (preferably the weaker one), then the "anchor" will finish the match after 12 hours. This way even the weaker character can't easily be masked by the dominant partner. Thoughts?

That's a pretty interesting idea.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 7/26/2006 7:24:38 PM | message detail
That's a pretty awesome idea, Master.
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Who Cares? | Posted 7/26/2006 7:24:39 PM | message detail
Um... maybe we'll get Colette?

OH HELLLLLLLLLLLL NO! >:(
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Chun-Li, Morrigan, Sheena
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/26/2006 7:24:52 PM | message detail
Nothing?

Bingo.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 7:24:57 PM | message detail
I guess I'll give my input here.

Over: 2.5 Final Fantasy X characters. At least three (Auron, Yuna, Rikku), and MAYBE as many as five (Tidus and Lulu)

Over: 2.5 Tales of Symphonia characters. I'll actually go over and say Kratos, Sheena, and Presea (hoping!) get in.

Over: 3.5 Final Fantasy VII characters in the bracket combined. From the early look of board nominations, it seems like Yuffie has a good chance of getting in, and I'll say she will. Throw in Vincent, Tifa, and Aeris for good measure.

Over: 1.5 Metal Gear characters in the bracket combined. Solid Snake is a given, and I think The Boss has enough of a following to get in. Wouldn't be surprised to see Meryl either, and maybe Ocelot or Liquid.

Under: 2.5 Final Fantasy VI characters in the bracket combined. I'll say under. I think Kefka and Celes get in. Terra might, but I doubt it.

Over: 1.5 Sonic characters in the bracket combined. This is me being hopeful and saying Knuckles at least gets in.

Over: 1.5 Kingdom Hearts characters in the bracket combined. Even if Riku misses out, I say Kairi gets in for the females.

Over: 2.5 Chrono Trigger characters in the bracket combined. Crono and Magus get in, and if Lavos can get in the Villains Contest, I have to believe at least Marle can get in for females.

Under: 1.5 Mortal Kombat characters in the bracket combined. Sub-Zero is it, I think. Sonya Blade or Kitana, MAYBE, but that's a stretch.

Under: 2.5 Street Fighter characters in the bracket combined. Probably just Ryu and Chun-Li, but I'd love to see Sakura especially and/or Cammy.

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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/26/2006 7:25:58 PM | message detail
O_O

What's Zelda going to end up at?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 7:26:49 PM | message detail
I mean, we've got two already confirmed

I suppose I should mention that I meant outside of Cloud and Sephy. Otherwise, yeah, that's a given.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2006 7:27:56 PM | message detail
It means that I am a God, obviously. Nominate the Prince of Persia!
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 7:29:51 PM | message detail
If Colette gets in, and Sheena doesn't, heads will roll. Hell, I'll even take Presea over Colette!
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/26/2006 7:31:15 PM | message detail
But Colette had that 100 hit combo...
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 7:32:03 PM | message detail
Colette has NOTHING!
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NewLib | Posted 7/26/2006 7:32:09 PM | message detail
Also I think Lyndis might have a chance at being slightly around KOS-MOS level. Here FE did sell well.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 7:33:17 PM | message detail
I'd take KOS-MOS over Lyn and wouldn't even think about it.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2006 7:34:05 PM | message detail
I'll reserve my judgment on FE for when Metal Gear goes up against Zelda. If it can impress (i.e. secure 4th strongest series title), I'll consider something from Fire Emblem, though it seems like it suffers from 'ensemble cast' syndrome much like FFVI does (*NOT* A GOOD SIGN).

Of course if MG bombs or struggles/loses against Kingdom Hearts, I won't even bother.
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/26/2006 7:34:23 PM | message detail
Over: 2.5 Final Fantasy X characters in the bracket combined (males and females)
Yuna and Rikku are almost locks, and Auron's pretty likely. Tidus wouldn't surprise me either.
Under: 2.5 Tales of Symphonia characters in the bracket combined
I don't expect the rallies for Lloyd and Kratos to be very big this year, and with a smaller field, that could kick them out. Sheena and Presea are possibilities, and maybe Kratos, but likely not all three.
Over: 3.5 Final Fantasy VII characters in the bracket combined
Cloud and Sephiroth are locks, and Tifa and Aeris will probably both return. Vincent's chances are pretty good too, I think. Excluding Cloud and Sephiroth... eh, I don't really like Yuffie's chances, so under.
Over: 1.5 Metal Gear characters in the bracket combined
Raiden, Ocelot, Liquid and The Boss probably don't have the bst chances in the world, but at least one of them should make it...
Under: 2.5 Final Fantasy VI characters in the bracket combined
Terra and Celes are possible, but Kefka's chances to return seem rather low and I don't see anyone else making it.
Over: 1.5 Sonic characters in the bracket combined
Knuckles/Snake in round 1.
Over: 1.5 Kingdom Hearts characters in the bracket combined
Sora and Riku both have pretty good chances to return, and while I wouldn't count on Riku, Axel or Roxas taking his place wouldn't surprise me.
Over: 2.5 Chrono Trigger characters in the bracket combined
Crono is a lock, and while Magus and Frog's returns are in doubt, Magus should still return, and Lucca or Marle wouldn't be too surprising.
Under: 1.5 Mortal Kombat characters in the bracket combined
Sub-Zero is possible, but after that...
Over: 2.5 Street Fighter characters in the bracket combined
Ryu and Chun are both pretty likely, and Cammy or Sakura would be good choices too.
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Bokonon_Lives | Posted 7/26/2006 7:34:25 PM | message detail
500!
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I'd take Knuckles over everyone and wouldn't even think about it.
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