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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/25/2006 10:19:41 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy is so screwed.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/top10_100.html



Post away!
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 10:20:05 PM | message detail
Post away isn't backwards?
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/25/2006 10:20:21 PM | message detail
Hey, post away is back!
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Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac
Currently Playing - Suikoden V, Street Fighter Alpha 3, New Super Mario Bros.
transience | Posted 7/25/2006 10:20:46 PM | message detail
http://objection.4camp.net/go.php?n=348939
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/25/2006 10:20:48 PM | message detail
Wow, that's like the fifth stat topic with that opening line. That's gotta be a record or something!
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
transience | Posted 7/25/2006 10:21:27 PM | message detail
..holy christ, the amount of objections is increasing geometrically. it was at like 100k two days ago.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/25/2006 10:22:32 PM | message detail
http://objection.4camp.net/go.php?n=349021
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
transience | Posted 7/25/2006 10:23:34 PM | message detail
I'm going to fight the urge to turn this topic into a 100-post objection-fest.

..leave me alone!
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
Azure_Dragon_24 | Posted 7/25/2006 10:27:31 PM | message detail
http://objection.4camp.net/go.php?n=349211

On a sidenote, objections pwn the RE4 board.
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You don't need a reason to help people-Zidane (FFIX)
bobby200614 | Posted 7/25/2006 11:51:34 PM | message detail
10th?
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New Sig! Coming Soon.
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 12:18:04 AM | message detail
Finally, my 500th post drought ends!

And on a good note!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 7/26/2006 12:18:26 AM | message detail
dammit Leon, my three game winning streak is over!
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/26/2006 12:19:54 AM | message detail
SLOW RIDE! TAKE IT EAAAASAY~!
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo
longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/26/2006 12:21:19 AM | message detail
good point. we should take Master Hand and extrapolate his percentage on Mario, assuming no SFF!

You know that wasn't my point Tranny <_<
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 12:22:27 AM | message detail
I personally think Mario 3 wouldn't destroy SSBM with SFF, but maybe that's just me. It'd get a decent amount, but not a clobbering by any means. I think SSB can do better than some expect.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/26/2006 12:23:23 AM | message detail
tags
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/26/2006 12:24:13 AM | message detail
Shadow Hearts = Kirby


TuRtLe
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Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1
Draco1214 | Posted 7/26/2006 12:24:42 AM | message detail
Personally, I'd be shocked if SSB broke 30%. Other than Zelda, nothing SFF's Nintendo harder than Mario.
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Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac
Currently Playing - Suikoden V, Street Fighter Alpha 3, New Super Mario Bros.
Master Moltar | Posted 7/26/2006 12:25:09 AM | message detail
we should take Master Hand and extrapolate his percentage on Mario, assuming no SFF!

Mario (2005c) VS Master Hand (2005v)

Mario has a strength of 43.20.
Master Hand has a strength of 13.61.

Mario wins with 84.25% of the vote!
A win of 64,594 with 94,304 total votes cast.

With 2004 Mario, it's 81.75%, which sounds alot more reasonable for SMB/SSB.
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Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket.
Legend of Zelda vs. Metroid - Bracket: LoZ - Vote: Metroid (30/32)
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 12:25:44 AM | message detail
Actually, if Final Fantasy gets 80% or better on RE, Shadow Hearts will be worth less than 5% on FF. However, Kirby will be worth about 9% at worst on Zelda.

Meaning, if FF and Zelda are equal, Kirby would still get 72.23% on Shadow Hearts.

It's just that weak, folks! Isn't it amazing!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 7/26/2006 12:25:45 AM | message detail
I don't think Mario 3 destroys SSBM with SFF either.. but you see, every trend in this contest has gone towards series with longevity, and the Mario series is a whole lot more than just Mario 3. add to it that I don't think any series is close to the Big Three and you've got a blowout. maybe not Link-Ganondorf, but more than Mario-Bowser.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
transience | Posted 7/26/2006 12:26:27 AM | message detail
oh right, x-stats. I'm gonna go do those quick on the whole bracket since I haven't been saving them.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
transience | Posted 7/26/2006 12:35:08 AM | message detail
Zelda: 50.00
Mega Man X: 19.68
Suikoden: 10.78
Civilization: 10.03

Metroid: 50.00
Pokemon: 47.44
Star Ocean: 32.51
Kirby: 29.43

Metal Gear: 50.00
Fire Emblem: 34.77
Soul Calibur: 30.10
Silent Hill: 29.87

Kingdom Hearts: 50.00
Castlevania: 48.67
Halo: 43.78
Harvest Moon: 26.88

Mario: 50.00
Warcraft: 18.87
GTA: 18.70
Madden: 7.79

Smash Bros: 50.00
Sonic: 42.34
Devil May Cry: 24.67
Dragon Quest: 23.63

Final Fantasy: 50.00
Mega Man: 25.81
Mario Kart: 21.62
Diablo: 14.02

Resident Evil: 50.00
Street Fighter: 49.27
Elder Scrolls: 34.72
Shadow Hearts: 12.24

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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 12:37:24 AM | message detail
Elder Scrolls gets 82.37% on Shadow Hearts!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Draco1214 | Posted 7/26/2006 12:39:51 AM | message detail
If Zelda maintains its current percentage how will the stats for the Hyrule Division look like?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 12:42:09 AM | message detail
Zelda: 50.00
Mega Man X: 19.68
Metroid: 15.46
Pokemon: 14.67
Suikoden: 10.78
Star Ocean: 10.05
Civilization: 10.03
Kirby: 9.10

Like that.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 7/26/2006 12:42:19 AM | message detail
Zelda: 84.54
Mega Man X: 19.68
Metroid: 15.46
Pokemon: 14.67
Suikoden: 10.78
Star Ocean: 10.05
Civilization: 10.03
Kirby: 9.10

Civ > Kirby, BOO--oh hell, I can't even get myself to do it.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
transience | Posted 7/26/2006 12:42:28 AM | message detail
grrr
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 12:43:23 AM | message detail
Heh heh, Civilization is worth almost 55% on Kirby.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 7/26/2006 12:44:44 AM | message detail
whoa, I gave Zelda 84.54. take that, pretenders!
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 12:46:52 AM | message detail
Wait, I didn't know Mega Man X only got 11.64% on Zelda! And Kirby only gets 5.38% on Zelda?
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 7/26/2006 12:48:25 AM | message detail
haha, I did those two exact calculations and was surprised they were so low! I was hoping Zelda would win with like 123% or something.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/26/2006 1:06:45 AM | message detail
At the 4:05 mark:

Zelda/Metroid - 32610
Final Fantasy/Mega Man - 33684

The Legend of Zelda's individual vote total: 27558
Super Mario Brothers's individual vote total against Madden: 24917
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
jonthomson | Posted 7/26/2006 1:30:26 AM | message detail
Ridley on match pic = instant win.

Er, yeah. Metroid being unsurprisingly pwned here.
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Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/26/2006 2:29:45 AM | message detail
My world view does not accept the idea that MMX is stronger here than Metroid, for some reason... and yet for that to be true I'd have to accept the notion that Star Ocean is stronger than Suikoden. Maybe Metroid really is that weak.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/26/2006 2:30:33 AM | message detail
And I don't mean that as if to say there may be no SFF, that'd be silly.
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Detective in Sir Chris' Police
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2006 3:17:55 AM | message detail
If Ceej had made a Star Ocean/Suikoden match in this contest, I wouldn't have known what to do. I'd have just gone..."what?" likely all the way up until match day.
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HaloKiller | Posted 7/26/2006 3:22:58 AM | message detail
^^Star Ocean and Suikoden win this contest, regardless of what the results say.

And geez at this match. I thought Metroid would at least put up a respectable showing. Guess not.
Luis_Sera89 | Posted 7/26/2006 3:33:50 AM | message detail
Ridley being on at least one match pic in this contest almost makes up for the 85% worth of liquid burning unexpected destructioness...

Just almost mind...
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it's CJayC. He's probably been meaning to make such a feature for 5 years but hasn't gotten around to it yet. - Ulti
voltch | Posted 7/26/2006 3:35:05 AM | message detail
so how much will Zelda be able to get on final fantasy?
40% or less?
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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 7/26/2006 3:37:26 AM | message detail
I believe that Zelda (or FF if you're of that viewpoint) will break at least 45% on each other.
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it's CJayC. He's probably been meaning to make such a feature for 5 years but hasn't gotten around to it yet. - Ulti
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2006 3:37:44 AM | message detail
Zelda would have to show some serious weakness for me to think it could fail to crack 40% on FF. If MG cracks 40% on Zelda I'll *think* about it.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/26/2006 3:39:41 AM | message detail
So then, MMX over Metroid 60/40?
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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 7/26/2006 3:42:15 AM | message detail
I'd take Metroid over MMX. Metroid is just something else when it comes to being on the recieving end of SFF.
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it's CJayC. He's probably been meaning to make such a feature for 5 years but hasn't gotten around to it yet. - Ulti
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2006 3:43:01 AM | message detail
Problem is, Mega Man X is more than likely considered to be a Nintendo series by the voters. That is NOT GOOD for Metroid.
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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 7/26/2006 3:49:06 AM | message detail
I think the voters need to be given some credit though. They probably recognise Metroid as being a lot more associated with Nintendo (y'know, because it is) than Mega Man. Which is why I think the vote will go that way. Knowing Metroid there probably wouldn't even be any SFF.
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it's CJayC. He's probably been meaning to make such a feature for 5 years but hasn't gotten around to it yet. - Ulti
HaloKiller | Posted 7/26/2006 4:25:08 AM | message detail
Zelda will get 46-49 on FF.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2006 5:43:56 AM | message detail
Yoshi is more associated with Nintendo than Mega Man, and all that got him was a whipping that put him below Leon Kennedy. SFF doesn't mean the voters are stupid. It just means that they tend to share the same fanbase...and I think MMX could put on a damn good show against Metroid.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/26/2006 6:40:54 AM | message detail
The extent to which Zelda is SFFing Metroid today is immense.

Firstly: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=1750

(I would have loaded the actual poll but it wouldn't work for either me nor my friend)

And now look at today's match. Zelda is SFFing Metroid almost as badly as Link SFFed Ganondorf, who is from Link's series. All Zelda and Metroid share is the same COMPANY. Not to mention the fact that Samus could not SFF Ganondorf - at least, not much.

Metroid and Samus = The most SFF prone entities in the contest?
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2006 6:49:13 AM | message detail
You have to keep in mind that Ganondorf is much stronger relative to Link than Metroid is to Zelda. Realistically Ganondorf gets into the thirties on BL, I can't see Metroid escaping the tripling on this monster even without SFF.
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