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| transience | Posted 7/25/2006 10:43:21 PM | message detail |
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oh, that thing. that's US-only and I'm sure it didn't break a million, so I have no information about it. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Heroic NPC | Posted 7/25/2006 10:43:57 PM | message detail |
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I wonder how many times CT has been emulated. --- Don't quote me. - Blulum øütßá©k |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/25/2006 10:44:31 PM | message detail |
| Chronicles did 377k in the US according to NPD. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/25/2006 10:44:55 PM | message detail |
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I think it would be safe to say "a lot". --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Legend of Zelda vs. Metroid - Bracket: LoZ - Vote: Metroid (30/32) |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 10:44:58 PM | message detail |
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I'd be quite surprised if Chrono Trigger wasn't the most emulated game
of all time, for what it's worth. Certainly the most emulated game of
GameFAQs users. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/25/2006 10:45:32 PM | message detail |
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What are the sales for Chrono Cross? Either way, Chrono Trigger's popularity transcends sales for a number of reasons (emulation being one). --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| transience | Posted 7/25/2006 10:48:48 PM | message detail |
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688k in Japan for CC.. I don't see anything about its US sales. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/25/2006 10:49:28 PM | message detail |
| I am guessing TP will outsell Prime III in at least 5 to 1 ratio... heck maybe the Tingle RPG will outsell Prime III... |
| transience | Posted 7/25/2006 10:49:36 PM | message detail |
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and yeah, CT's emulation is rather legendary it seems. for example: Do you own a copy of Chrono Trigger? 10768 15.65% Yes, the original SNES cartridge 11356 16.51% Yes, the PlayStation remake 6320 9.19% Yes, both versions 18585 27.01% No, but I've played it before 21767 31.64% No, and I've never even played it TOTAL VOTES: 68796 --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/25/2006 10:49:39 PM | message detail |
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Cross did 580,000 in the U.S and 565,489 in japan. No euro numbers though :( |
| transience | Posted 7/25/2006 10:50:39 PM | message detail |
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that's cause it never came out in Europe. same with Trigger. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 10:52:14 PM | message detail |
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This is also why I don't see Square doing much with Chrono in the
future...heck, I'm surprised that they even released Cross over here. EB Games still sells CC for 20 bucks and up used, for what it's worth. The hell...? --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/25/2006 10:53:02 PM | message detail |
| I wonder why SE is not rereleasing CT for the GBa/DS? They seem to be porting or remaking just about every FF game upto 6. |
| Heroic NPC | Posted 7/25/2006 10:53:15 PM | message detail |
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I saw CC for 15 at my local blockbuster once, but that's the only place I've ever seen it. --- Don't quote me. - Blulum øütßá©k |
| transience | Posted 7/25/2006 10:54:25 PM | message detail |
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CT is the one game that still has some milk to give. the SNES FF titles
are getting milked so hard, yet CT only had the PSX version with the
horrid load times. it's clearly a loved title, they should look into
doing something with it. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Heroic NPC | Posted 7/25/2006 10:55:23 PM | message detail |
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Either Square has some reason for thinking that nobody would care about
CT (which I can't see), or they're missing some sort of integral piece
that would be needed to make it. --- Don't quote me. - Blulum øütßá©k |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 10:55:51 PM | message detail |
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Final Fantasy is likely much more profitable for Square. Hell, even the
PSX CT release came bundled under the name 'Final Fantasy Chronicles'.
They just don't care to do much with CT because it's not a big name
over here. Just...very loved. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/25/2006 10:56:23 PM | message detail |
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Well for JRPGs those numbers are pretty good. I think it still sold better than any non-square, non-nintendo jrpg. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/25/2006 10:56:43 PM | message detail |
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Square has had fewer than a dozen games not bearing the Final Fantasy
name that cracked a million worldwide. Anytime another franchise breaks
a mil worldwide that's enough for them. And, frankly, every other
developer not named Nintendo or EA. Really, everyone else in the
business is happy to have even one series in their entire catalogue
capable of breaking 2 mil worldwide. They jump for joy most of the time
when they sell 1 million. --- R.I.P. yoblazer33, murdered in cold blood by Sir Chris. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/25/2006 10:57:27 PM | message detail |
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I think people are at least familar with the name Chrono
Trigger, even if they've never played it. Heck, I bought Chrono Cross
just because I had heard so many good things about Chrono Trigger,
despite the fact that I had never played it. Heck, I even knew who Crono was before I ever played the game. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 7/25/2006 10:59:29 PM | message detail |
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I guess you could throw Crono/Chrono Trigger into the "legendary
game" category, but (and correct me if I'm wrong) GameFAQs is the only
place where it receives such ridiculous praise. http://archive.gamespy.com/titlefight/matches/0120.shtml Funny, how CT actually did worse on this site. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/25/2006 11:00:45 PM | message detail |
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"I think it still sold better than any non-square, non-nintendo jrpg." If you don't count KH in that bunch (which I'm going to assume is the case) it's certainly the highest selling RPG not bearing the name Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior. --- R.I.P. yoblazer33, murdered in cold blood by Sir Chris. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/25/2006 11:01:02 PM | message detail |
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Or Pokemon, heh. --- R.I.P. yoblazer33, murdered in cold blood by Sir Chris. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/25/2006 11:01:48 PM | message detail |
| Blizzard has 3. And they only have 3 series' running too...o.O |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 11:02:09 PM | message detail |
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Everybody forgets Pokemon! And as for GameSpy, yeah, CT beat FF7 there...but frankly, FF7 isn't the top dog like it is here. CT is the #3 game on this site, that just simply isn't the case in most places. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/25/2006 11:03:24 PM | message detail |
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http://archive.gamespy.com/titlefight/matches/0403.shtml Proof of FF > Zelda!!!!! Look at how well Mario Kart 64 did there, too. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/25/2006 11:03:36 PM | message detail |
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MoH, I forgot to put the J myself, but we're talking about Japanese RPGs. PCRPGs simply don't count. --- R.I.P. yoblazer33, murdered in cold blood by Sir Chris. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/25/2006 11:04:25 PM | message detail |
| You'd figure the Xenosaga series sells at least as much, I guess not. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/25/2006 11:05:27 PM | message detail |
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It's yet to break a million with a given realese, actually. --- R.I.P. yoblazer33, murdered in cold blood by Sir Chris. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/25/2006 11:05:43 PM | message detail |
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The Xenosaga series wasn't very popular at all. That's why Namco cut the size of the series in half. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/25/2006 11:06:08 PM | message detail |
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Heh, I fear my Ganondorf fanboyism may bite me in the ass next
contest. I'd take him over everyone but Link, Cloud, Samus, Mario,
Sephiroth, and maybe Crono, if he gets TP by the time of his match.
Even if he doesn't I'll take him over Snake and anyone outside of the
Noble Nine. Why would you take him over all these characters before Twilight Princess? It isn't as though he's going to increase in strength without it. Though I do think he has a shot actually going up pretty high if delivers on their promises with Ganon in Twilight Princess, even moreso if he actually "wins" the game. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/25/2006 11:09:25 PM | message detail |
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And since the Wii release date and Twilight Princess seem to be
deciding how the Character Battle plays out, the new "speculation"
surrounding that mysterious date seems to be October 2nd. Of course, it
is nothing confirmed, and could just be Nintendo hyping people up, but
I'm almost expecting both the Wii and TP before the end of the next
contest, which is rather unfortunate for unpredictability, but yeah ... --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Heroic NPC | Posted 7/25/2006 11:09:29 PM | message detail |
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If TP Ganon is anywhere near as cool as WW Ganon, he'll increase a lot. --- Don't quote me. - Blulum øütßá©k |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/25/2006 11:09:31 PM | message detail |
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The only thing about Xenosaga that needed to be cut in half was the
dialogue. If they'd have excercised anything resembling restraint in
the matter people would have actually played the game. Instead they
fought through an hour of dialogue at the initial sequence instead of
fighting through dungeons and felt (justifiably) like they hadn't
played anything at all. --- R.I.P. yoblazer33, murdered in cold blood by Sir Chris. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/25/2006 11:09:47 PM | message detail |
| It's always mystery to me how the FF brand can sell so well yet no other brand is even close? Sega used to have some decent series' too. This has got to be the biggest follow the leader scenario unlike any other genre. |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/25/2006 11:10:48 PM | message detail |
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Square has had fewer than a dozen games not bearing the Final
Fantasy name that cracked a million worldwide. Anytime another
franchise breaks a mil worldwide that's enough for them. And, frankly,
every other developer not named Nintendo or EA. Really, everyone else
in the business is happy to have even one series in their entire
catalogue capable of breaking 2 mil worldwide. They jump for joy most
of the time when they sell 1 million. Nah, Square has a lot of games in japan that cracked a million. (mostly saga games, they're huge there) SaGA Saga Frontier Romancing Saga 2 Romancing Saga 3 Secret of Mana Parasite Eve Chocobo Dungeon Chrono Trigger Chrono Cross Kingdom Hearts Kingdom Hearts 2 Kingdom Heart COM Super Mario RPG (but this doesn't really count) Probably more like Parasite Eve 2, Saga frontier 2, LOM, and a few I can't remember right now. Plus there's still the DQ franchise(but thats enix) that has almost a dozen itself. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/25/2006 11:11:00 PM | message detail |
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Nintendo's hyping Ganon to be "bigger and badder than ever before," so
I always figured if they lived up to that he'd get a reasonably
significant boost from the game. Moreso than if he were just the final
boss. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/25/2006 11:13:58 PM | message detail |
| The list i posted are games that sold over a million worldwide, |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/25/2006 11:14:04 PM | message detail |
| I can't even begin to imagine what this wolf form will do to Link's popularity. I hope the game breeds other popular Zelda characters other than the main trio, like how FF has Vincent, Tifa, etc.. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/25/2006 11:15:45 PM | message detail |
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"Sega used to have some decent series' too." In terms of sales the only ones that were real winners were Sonic, Virtua Fighter, and their NFL games. A few other random series' had one or (in the case of monkey ball) two entries break a million worldwide. Their biggest seller ever, Sonic 2, didn't quite crack 5 million worldwide and, iirc, was a pack in title for awhile as well. Sega is actually pretty weak in terms of game sales. --- R.I.P. yoblazer33, murdered in cold blood by Sir Chris. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Heroic NPC | Posted 7/25/2006 11:16:37 PM | message detail |
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Has anybody made a company breakdown of this contest yet? --- Don't quote me. - Blulum øütßá©k |
| transience | Posted 7/25/2006 11:17:37 PM | message detail |
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the final eight is Nintendo-Nintendo-Konami-Square-Nintendo-Nintendo-Square-Capcom. ...yeah. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| TheGreatAlucard | Posted 7/25/2006 11:18:52 PM | message detail |
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There is more reason for Final Fantasy to have stronger characters than
for Zelda to have them. The importance of Vincent and Tifa is on par
with the trio in Zelda. --- All that is necessary for evil to triumph...is for good men to do nothing... -- Alucard |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/25/2006 11:19:49 PM | message detail |
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"Nah, Square has a lot of games in japan that cracked a million. (mostly saga games, they're huge there)" Your list is 13 games, we both agree SMRPG doesn't belong. I missed Chrono Cross. Nothing else from Square is on the list. So exactly a dozen, not the 11 (which is less than a dozen) I had previously come up with. --- R.I.P. yoblazer33, murdered in cold blood by Sir Chris. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/25/2006 11:20:41 PM | message detail |
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I was talking about Sega RPGs. Phantasy Star, Shining, Skies, they had
some great games that went practically neglected in North America. It
amazes me how only FF franchize sells here... And speaking of Wolves, when is Okami coming out in America? |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 7/25/2006 11:21:18 PM | message detail |
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Vincent? Importance? It's awesome that he's as strong as he is considering that he hardly does anything in the game. --- Just Got Owned By Guru winner Voltch. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/25/2006 11:21:59 PM | message detail |
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Oh, yeah... none of those games even neared a million as far as I know.
But, really, not many RPGs do that aren't from SquareEnix or Nintendo. --- R.I.P. yoblazer33, murdered in cold blood by Sir Chris. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 11:22:13 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Vincent's importance is...minimal. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/25/2006 11:22:42 PM | message detail |
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The game wouldn't be half of what it is without him. He doesn't haev to do anything, he still owns. --- R.I.P. yoblazer33, murdered in cold blood by Sir Chris. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| transience | Posted 7/25/2006 11:22:42 PM | message detail |
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Vincent is weak, he's an optional character after all! --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |