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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 328
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| creativename | Posted 7/25/2006 9:39:36 PM | message detail |
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If we get a Master Hand picture for SSB against SMB, then I will be
pretty convinced that Ceej has in fact had some conscious agenda/fun
with SSB matches and overloaded SSB pics in the past. If we do see Master Hand SSB will probably get destroyed. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/25/2006 9:39:51 PM | message detail |
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Actually I think Pokemon would do better against LOZ than Metroid. Metroid as a series is not very strong. Plus Pokemon fans and LOZ fans are a lot more diverse than Metroid fans and LOZ fans. Heck Metroid probably got RSFF against Pokemon. Thats how low Metroid is on the Nintendo Totem poll. Its just that non-nintendo fans like metroid a lot more than Pokemon. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:40:08 PM | message detail |
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I don't believe that Warcraft can go lower than a 55% in that match Maybe head-to-head with rallying, and that's about the max I would give it. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 7/25/2006 9:41:50 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon being strong shouldn't be surprising. Most reasons you can
think of for a series to be strong, Pokemon has. The problem is that
we've never had a good read on how strong Pokemon is. Pikachu is a
horrible representative and both his appearences are behind stat
anomolies. Pokemon GSC lost to Xenogears which likely suffered a ton of
SFF from FF7. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:42:32 PM | message detail |
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Note that we will have no more than 27 perfect brackets (the number of perfects that have FF winning in the top 50). Though how did that guy with SSB winning it all last so long? --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/25/2006 9:42:56 PM | message detail |
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Figures. Now that Zelda is crushing Metroid in an SFF fest, people get
the Zelda >> FF bandwagon going. Never mind that I've been saying
it and Mario both have good chances for awhile now. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY) |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/25/2006 9:42:58 PM | message detail |
| Warcraft's rallying ability is like a double-edged sword against Diablo. Could end up rallying up the wrong crowd. 55-45 sounds a little high, maybe 53-47 Warcraft. |
| TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/25/2006 9:43:00 PM | message detail |
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Meh. I don't think we'll find out this contest considering that the stats will most likely be completely unreliable... I'm still curious as to where and why Diablo was considered a strong series. --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/25/2006 9:43:17 PM | message detail |
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From creativename Posted 7/26/2006 12:29:38 AM I still don't think SMB will challenge Final Fantasy too much. It will be closer than 60-40, I guarentee TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:43:43 PM | message detail |
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For basically the same reasons Warcraft was. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/25/2006 9:44:05 PM | message detail |
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Figures. Now that Zelda is crushing Metroid in an SFF fest, people
get the Zelda >> FF bandwagon going. Never mind that I've been
saying it and Mario both have good chances for awhile now. Pshht. I've been claiming that Zelda and Mario > FF since the beginning of the contest, baby. ;) --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:44:23 PM | message detail |
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It will be closer than 60-40, I guarentee I don't think anyone will be arguing that. I just expect an Ultidestruction there, and Zelda to do a bunch of points better. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:44:29 PM | message detail |
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Like I said, I can imagine Pokemon with strength -- yeah, sure, that's
fine, whatever. But in order for Metroid to be able to hang with the
Metal Gears, Mega Mans, Sonics, and Castlevanias of the world, Pokemon
has to be able to do the same. That...doesn't fly with me. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/25/2006 9:44:30 PM | message detail |
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For basically the same reasons Warcraft was. WoW? --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/25/2006 9:45:11 PM | message detail |
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I don't believe that Warcraft can go lower than a 55% in that match Maybe head-to-head with rallying, and that's about the max I would give it. Rally would probably help Diablo. Most Wow players I know are only playing WOW until Diablo 3 comes out. Which is why WOW is the root of all evil. I bet Blizzard knows this and will leech these poor saps and take forever to give us a new freakin game. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:45:41 PM | message detail |
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"6 million World of Warcraft users" is an overrated statistic. Sure, it
would've lost to GTA without it, but it wouldn't have lost that badly.
That's really the only advantage Warcraft has over Diablo. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Heroic NPC | Posted 7/25/2006 9:45:42 PM | message detail |
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Metroid is a midcarder here; I think the sole reason that Samus is a
noble 9 member is SSBM. Metroid doesn't have Noble 9-esque power. --- Don't quote me. - Blulum øütßá©k |
| Tai | Posted 7/25/2006 9:46:46 PM | message detail |
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Pshht. I've been claiming that Zelda and Mario > FF since the beginning of the contest, baby. ;) And, you'll be wrong. With that, Zelda increases again. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=579987 - Wanna report a TOS violation? Go to Snack Attack and we can help! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:47:08 PM | message detail |
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But if Samus is only that strong thanks to SSB, that means if and when
Snake, Sonic, and Mega Man pop in the game, her advantage is totally
erased. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/25/2006 9:47:42 PM | message detail |
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Starcraft 2 should be Blizzard's next priority. Both Diablo and
Warcraft have a good sized userbase in North America, but Starcraft has
been dwindling everywhere but Korea. WoW and Diablo 2 are good for a
few more years at least. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/25/2006 9:47:45 PM | message detail |
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"6 million World of Warcraft users" is an overrated statistic. Sure,
it would've lost to GTA without it, but it wouldn't have lost that
badly. That's really the only advantage Warcraft has over Diablo. I don't know. Without WoW, I think Warcraft wouldn't have had a shot. It was the only reason I had Warcraft in my bracket. ^_^; How are the vote totals in this one stacking up compared to the other matches, so far? --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:47:57 PM | message detail |
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From Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2006 12:47:08 AM | #269 But if Samus is only that strong thanks to SSB, that means if and when Snake, Sonic, and Mega Man pop in the game, her advantage is totally erased. And we didn't see such a thing against Ganondorf. Man, making sense of this is making my brain hurt. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra |
| TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/25/2006 9:48:37 PM | message detail |
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And, you'll be wrong. Quite probably. =P --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/25/2006 9:48:48 PM | message detail |
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Question: If SMB pulls the (massive) upset on FF, will there be any SFF in Zelda/Mario and which way will it go? TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Heroic NPC | Posted 7/25/2006 9:48:49 PM | message detail |
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That's true, KH. But does that really sound unreasonable at all? --- Don't quote me. - Blulum øütßá©k |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:49:00 PM | message detail |
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Without WoW, I think Warcraft wouldn't have had a shot. It was the only reason I had Warcraft in my bracket. ^_^; As I said, it's the only advantage Warcraft has over Diablo. Diablo still has a huge Blizzard presence. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/25/2006 9:49:21 PM | message detail |
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What do you guys think FFT gets on Xenogears, without SFF? I think it would be a pretty close match, along the lines of 55-45. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:49:34 PM | message detail |
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Well, it's hard to make sense of Samus/Ganondorf...that was an SFF
match. Plus, it's hard for me to imagine the Nintendo fanbase siding
heavily with Ganon against anything on par or above his level. It's the
reason I'd take Bowser (and possibly Zelda) over him. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:49:35 PM | message detail |
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will there be any SFF in Zelda/Mario and which way will it go? Do you really have to ask? --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 7/25/2006 9:50:13 PM | message detail |
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Metroid is a midcarder here; I think the sole reason that Samus is a
noble 9 member is SSBM. Metroid doesn't have Noble 9-esque power. Samus doesn't particularly stand out in either SSB or SSBM. Why would she get an enormous amount of power from them? --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:50:14 PM | message detail |
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SFF in Zelda/Mario... man. Both are so good with it they'll create a black hole sucking all the votes in. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/25/2006 9:50:28 PM | message detail |
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Eh, I won't say only strong because of SSB. I guess people like the
badass female of Nintendo and don't particularly care for the games.
That or they have no problem voting other franchises over it. I wonder how Metroid would have fared against a non-Nintendo opponent. --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Legend of Zelda vs. Metroid - Bracket: LoZ - Vote: Metroid (30/32) |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:51:02 PM | message detail |
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Samus doesn't particularly stand out in either SSB or SSBM Her huge energy blast is the reason my stepbrother uses a lot. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:51:50 PM | message detail |
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Also, the other thing is that Samus and Ganondorf have been in SSB(M)
from the beginning of their contest careers, IIRC. It's part of their
intrinsic strength. But Snake, Sonic, and Mega Man are going to have
that added if and when they get in. So you have to ask yourself, would
Samus would be stronger than those three if she didn't have SSB? --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:52:29 PM | message detail |
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I like the charge beam too, but I seriously doubt one friggin' attack
is going to change much. (Except Zelda's down+B, the best move in the
game hands down.) --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/25/2006 9:52:48 PM | message detail |
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But if Samus is only that strong thanks to SSB, that means if and
when Snake, Sonic, and Mega Man pop in the game, her advantage is
totally erased. And we didn't see such a thing against Ganondorf. Man, making sense of this is making my brain hurt. Well Samus is also very noob friendly. She has good projectiles and good recover. Very easy to be someone's favorite character. Ganondorf on the other hand is hard to use. Most noob are probably like, this guy can jump for crap and he's so slow. He sucks. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:53:19 PM | message detail |
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And why are we talking about Sonic and Megaman in SSBB? Did they get confirmed or something? --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/25/2006 9:53:33 PM | message detail |
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He sucks. WROOOOONG --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Legend of Zelda vs. Metroid - Bracket: LoZ - Vote: Metroid (30/32) |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:53:39 PM | message detail |
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Ah yes, and the Screw Attack, too. She has some flashy moves. Most SSB
players don't play competitively and likely don't really care about
"tiers." --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Heroic NPC | Posted 7/25/2006 9:53:48 PM | message detail |
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So you have to ask yourself, would Samus would be stronger than those three if she didn't have SSB? Not a chance. Partly because of how insanely popular SSB is on this site and partly because SSB was her first appearance on the gaming scene in a generation. --- Don't quote me. - Blulum øütßá©k |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:54:14 PM | message detail |
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Thank you, TRE. Glad someone said that. Super Mario Brothers getting 55% on Super Smash Brothers would be the most depressing thing ever. I mean, sure, at least the stats would look a helluva lot better...but SSB getting 45% on the godfather of gaming is just a notch below Shadow doing the same. And there's no proxy nonsense to excuse it, either. It would in some, wouldn't in others. More than anything else, Super Smash has kept Mario and crew in this generation. --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:54:17 PM | message detail |
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No, but they've been talked about since the beginning. I thought to use
it as a good benchmark talking point, since many think Snake wouldn't
be on Samus' level even if she didn't have SSB. Though he'll have MGS4
by that time as well, for what that's worth... --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:54:40 PM | message detail |
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From Heroic NPC | Posted 7/26/2006 12:53:48 AM | #290 So you have to ask yourself, would Samus would be stronger than those three if she didn't have SSB? Not a chance. Partly because of how insanely popular SSB is on this site and partly because SSB was her first appearance on the gaming scene in a generation. But then you have to ask yourself, with EVERYONE in it, will things be the same as if no one was in it or not? --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/25/2006 9:55:31 PM | message detail |
| Good question. Snake's popularity should increase in 2008 (Trust me SSBB ain't comin out till holidays 2007), but Zero Suit Samus should give her plenty of boost as well? |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:56:01 PM | message detail |
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This has probably been said before, as it was precontest, but why does
poor metroid always get put in Nintendo matches??!?! It just isn't nice. --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:56:10 PM | message detail |
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But then you have to ask yourself, with EVERYONE in it, will things be the same as if no one was in it or not? No, because some characters are more favored than others. Speaking of which, I'd like to see a Favorite SSB Character poll. HOPEFULLY, people would vote based on who they actually like to use in the game. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 7/25/2006 9:56:28 PM | message detail |
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Her huge energy blast is the reason my stepbrother uses a lot. Well, she certainly has some fans because of SSB/SSBM. But it's not significantly more that the other SSB characters. I believe Fox is more popular in both SSB games, but he isn't anywhere near Noble Nine. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/25/2006 9:57:04 PM | message detail |
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He sucks. WROOOOONG I know Ganondorf doesn't suck but for the general SSBM crowd, they probably think he does. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:57:14 PM | message detail |
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Well, certainly Super Smash Brothers isn't the only reason Samus is Noble Nine, but she'd probably be closer to the bottom of the group than the top without it. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:57:46 PM | message detail |
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I really doubt that Link wouldn't kill that poll eight ways from
Sunday. People like to use their favorites in SSB...because, as you
said, most people don't care about tiers and the like. I could potentially see Samus boosting from ZSS...but that depends on how it's implemented. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |