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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 328

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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:22:00 PM | message detail
My god. Let's assume Zelda finishes with 85%. How does Kirby look in the divisional stats?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:22:49 PM | message detail
oh, Samus gets the majority of her strength from Metroid.. it's just that it's an SFF match. this is like asking where Ganondorf gets his strength from. it's just massive SFF.

But the thing is, Link/Samus was a SFF matchup too, and Samus was likely SFFed and still to this day has performed the best on Link outside of Clinkeroth.

Summer 2004. Samus had one kickass run that year.

Samus has been impressing since 2k2, really. It's Metroid that I don't get.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:23:03 PM | message detail
I think this is mostly another example of the Big Three being miles ahead of everything else. Metal Gear isn't escaping a tripling, I'd say, and only it and the Mega Man classic have a shot at finishing over 25% on the winner.

Incidentally, if Metal Gear does get tripled exactly, Fire Emblem beats Metroid, like, 60/40.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:24:02 PM | message detail
Let's assume Zelda finishes with 85%. How does Kirby look in the divisional stats?

About 9%
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greatone10 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:24:08 PM | message detail
Silent Hill > Metroid

See, the movie did make a difference!
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 7/25/2006 9:24:09 PM | message detail
0:20 - Total Votes
FF vs MM - 5809
LoZ vs Metroid - 5917

It's winning and this is a SFF match which tend to have lower vote totals and against a supposedly weaker opponent. Your move, Final Fantasy. =D
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trannyscience | Posted 7/25/2006 9:24:20 PM | message detail
But the thing is, Link/Samus was a SFF matchup too, and Samus was likely SFFed and still to this day has performed the best on Link outside of Clinkeroth.

yeah.. but Samus is just flat out stronger than Metroid. I don't think that it's just because of Smash though - Samus is just more popular than her games. it's the same with Sonic.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:24:25 PM | message detail
I can't see Zelda tripling Metal Gear. That puts it too close to Final Fantasy (which is your whole point, ha ha, but you're wrong!).
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Lopen | Posted 7/25/2006 9:24:43 PM | message detail
I don't think this is all SFF... mostly, yeah... but...

I'm not so sure Metroid beats Mega Man X anymore. And even if it does, I doubt it's a sound beating.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:25:52 PM | message detail
Metroid isn't going to beat most things soundly after it couldn't beat Pokemon soundly. Yes, Pokemon has strength. But would you take it to beat Mega Man X?
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/25/2006 9:26:15 PM | message detail
People are going to severely underestimate MGS against LoZ. Sure LoZ is still going to kick it's ass, but I don't think avoiding the tripling it out of the question at all.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:26:28 PM | message detail
Zelda's average in the last two updates is 85.77%
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cyko | Posted 7/25/2006 9:26:40 PM | message detail
84.63%.............

good God..........

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greatone10 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:26:51 PM | message detail
I have no clue what to think about Pokemon these days.

For all we know, it could beat MMX.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:27:08 PM | message detail
For some reason SFF really hasn't affected the votals significantly in this contest. We just seem to be getting higher and higher...
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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:27:13 PM | message detail
Hmm? Zelda with more than 75% on against Metal Gear either means Zelda > FF or Mega Man > Metal Gear, and I'd have to say the second is more plausible than the first.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/25/2006 9:27:20 PM | message detail
Jesus.... I had no idea the SFF would be THIS bad...


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creativename | Posted 7/25/2006 9:27:43 PM | message detail
Zelda could push 86% at this rate.

As for MMX, I was talking about how MMX could be stronger than Metroid before this match. The picture made me think Metroid could do better than MMX, but in hindsight, that was dumb.

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Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:27:53 PM | message detail
Overall, my thoughts on this contest so far go like this:

After FF beat down Diablo so hard, I thought like everyone else that this thing was over. However, after witnessing the big three in action in round 2 it turns out that they're all just dominating like they did in the villain contest, and the championship is still somewhat open. Back to square one, as one would say.

Anyone think like that? I mean, this is an obvious SFF beatdown, but Metroid would likely get tripled by FF to begin with.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/25/2006 9:28:09 PM | message detail
I didn't expect Zelda to break 80%.

I do enjoy watching LoZ and FF try to 1-Up each other. XD

LoZ: I broke 100,000 votes in my first match!
FF: I made Diablo look like fodder and ALSO broke 100,000 votes!
LoZ: I broke 100,000 votes AGAIN and held Mega Man X under 20%
FF: I ALSO broke 100,000 votes twice, and almost tripled Mega Man, with NO SFF!

SMB: Screw-a you! I got more votes than any of you! And held War-a-craft under the 20's!
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Tai | Posted 7/25/2006 9:28:10 PM | message detail
0:20 - Total Votes
FF vs MM - 5809
LoZ vs Metroid - 5917

It's winning and this is a SFF match which tend to have lower vote totals and against a supposedly weaker opponent. Your move, Final Fantasy. =D


Shaddup. :-(

FF still has this.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:28:57 PM | message detail
From Big Bob | Posted 7/26/2006 12:28:09 AM | #220
I didn't expect Zelda to break 80%.

I do enjoy watching LoZ and FF try to 1-Up each other. XD

LoZ: I broke 100,000 votes in my first match!
FF: I made Diablo look like fodder and ALSO broke 100,000 votes!
LoZ: I broke 100,000 votes AGAIN and held Mega Man X under 20%
FF: I ALSO broke 100,000 votes twice, and almost tripled Mega Man, with NO SFF!

SMB: Screw-a you! I got more votes than any of you! And held War-a-craft under the 20's!


Which is exactly why bringing the ToC back for another go is a TERRIBLE idea.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:29:13 PM | message detail
Metroid would probably get more than tripled by FF. No way Pokemon hangs with Mega Man and beats Mario Kart. I'd give it maybe 20% on FF.
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creativename | Posted 7/25/2006 9:29:38 PM | message detail
I still don't think SMB will challenge Final Fantasy too much.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:30:02 PM | message detail
Yeah, I went all conservative to avoid being clubbed with rotten fish. But yeah, 20% is plausible.
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Tai | Posted 7/25/2006 9:30:27 PM | message detail
Oh snap, Metroid kept LoZ from increasing that %. :o
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:30:34 PM | message detail
The Legend of Zelda is the Fedor Emelianenko of this contest.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:30:40 PM | message detail
Not Mario, but Zelda. Warcraft isn't THAT much stronger than Diablo. At least I can't see it that way.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:30:43 PM | message detail
I almost feel like I *have* to give Pokemon the edge over Mario Kart, because if I don't Metroid just looks pathetic compared to Mega Man and other series. But I would never do that before seeing Pokemon/Metroid...

...incidentally, how do people think Pokemon would be holding up here?
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creativename | Posted 7/25/2006 9:31:11 PM | message detail
Pokemon 20% on Final Fantasy? What? I can't see it getting that at all.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/25/2006 9:31:25 PM | message detail
Not Mario, but Zelda. Warcraft isn't THAT much stronger than Diablo. At least I can't see it that way.

To be honest, I can't see Warcraft not being significantly stronger than the Diablo series.
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Tai | Posted 7/25/2006 9:31:50 PM | message detail
Oh, LoZ dropped from around 990 to 909 on that update. No matter, it will increase next update. :-)
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:33:05 PM | message detail
I can't see Warcraft not being significantly stronger than the Diablo series.

Then your eyes must be closed.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:33:22 PM | message detail
Pokemon 20% on Final Fantasy? What? I can't see it getting that at all.

Frankly, I would take Pokemon over a select few series in the bracket...but if I use that logic it puts Metroid at the bottom of the barrel. I feel like it deserves better than that. I mean, would it really get crushed by the Halos and the Mario Karts of the world?
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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:34:18 PM | message detail
I know, but I wouldn't have guessed Pokemon could go nearly even with Metroid either. It's between Pokemon being (much) stronger than we thought (comparitively, anyway - 20% usually isn't much to brag about), or Metroid getting Ulti-destroyed or worse against your Mega Men, Metal Gears, Mario Karts, and the like.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:34:28 PM | message detail
Or maybe, just maybe, Pokémon got a huge boost from the awesomeness of Emerald and FRLG.

...what? A guy can dream...
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/25/2006 9:35:06 PM | message detail
Then your eyes must be closed.

Much like yours were for Warcraft vs GTA? ;)
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:35:17 PM | message detail
MG gets 55% on KH
SMB gets 55% on SSB
FF gets 55% on SMB
LOZ gets 55% on FF

Book it.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/25/2006 9:36:18 PM | message detail
Mewtwo will be the biggest wildcard in the next contest. He must get in.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/25/2006 9:36:37 PM | message detail
Much like yours were for Warcraft vs GTA? ;)

Much the same, yes. Warcraft needs 60%+ on Diablo for SMB to stand a chance against FF. Not happening.
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Tai | Posted 7/25/2006 9:36:37 PM | message detail
LOZ gets 55% on FF

lolololol FF blew up the train tracks to your bandwagon llololol
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:36:38 PM | message detail
Super Mario Brothers getting 55% on Super Smash Brothers would be the most depressing thing ever. I mean, sure, at least the stats would look a helluva lot better...but SSB getting 45% on the godfather of gaming is just a notch below Shadow doing the same. And there's no proxy nonsense to excuse it, either.
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creativename | Posted 7/25/2006 9:37:01 PM | message detail
I took Warcraft>GTA, and before this contest I would've been sorely tempted to take Diablo>GTA as well. Now I don't know, it seems Warcraft is stronger. But I don't think it'd be by all that much.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/25/2006 9:37:08 PM | message detail
MG gets 55% on KH
SMB gets 55% on SSB
FF gets 55% on SMB
LOZ gets 55% on FF


Not that I agree with the other 2, but those are just insane.

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greatone10 | Posted 7/25/2006 9:37:37 PM | message detail
Bold prediction: Mewtwo will be another Kerrigan who people will massively overrate due to Pokemon's performace this contest.

Nonetheless, I still plan to nominate him due to his unpredictability.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/25/2006 9:37:41 PM | message detail
Super Mario Brothers getting 55% on Super Smash Brothers would be the most depressing thing ever. I mean, sure, at least the stats would look a helluva lot better...but SSB getting 45% on the godfather of gaming is just a notch below Shadow doing the same.

Damn you with the random Shadow bashing!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:37:45 PM | message detail
What does FF need to get on SMB to make Diablo = Warcraft?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/25/2006 9:38:56 PM | message detail
Damn you with the random Shadow bashing!

It's not random at all, if you know what I mean!

And you should be grateful. I actually own (and tolerate, to an extent) Shadow's game.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/25/2006 9:39:16 PM | message detail
And there's no proxy nonsense to excuse it, either.

There isn't, but I just thought I'd say the contest n00bs think this is going to be Mario vs. all of Nintendo (plus Metal Gear to boot).

As if a bunch of popular Nintendo characters was going to help. This is a fighting game that just so happens to feature Nintendo all-stars, not the reverse. Where were your precious Cloud and Sephiroth when KH almost lost to Soul Calibur?
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/25/2006 9:39:24 PM | message detail
Much the same, yes. Warcraft needs 60%+ on Diablo for SMB to stand a chance against FF. Not happening.

Why, though? I don't believe that Warcraft can go lower than a 55% in that match. I'm not saying that Mario can make a close match with FF though...

It will manage a 99.99%, baby!
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