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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 5:38:28 PM | message detail
Hmmm...I wonder.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/24/2006 5:39:06 PM | message detail
I wonder if you have a hairy chest.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 5:39:37 PM | message detail
Kinda sorta.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/24/2006 5:40:17 PM | message detail
Hott.

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Tai | Posted 7/24/2006 5:56:09 PM | message detail
From the last topic:

Why would anyone want liver?

Lol, that song was from the music of a level in DooM someone made. :-) It's the funniest meagawad (in all, 41 levels) I've ever played.
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Tai | Posted 7/24/2006 5:57:22 PM | message detail
Oh, and a cat's supposed to be singing. >_>
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charmander6000 | Posted 7/24/2006 6:27:39 PM | message detail
Match XXIV: (6) Street Fighter vs. (2) Resident Evil

Past Matches

Street Fighter
Defeated The Elder Scrolls, 64.77% - 35.23%

Resident Evil
Defeated Shadow Hearts, 87.76% - 12.24%

Analysis:

The prediction for SF/TES was all over the map, but in the end it got right in the middle of what everyone expected. Resident Evil on the other hand destroyed Shadow Hearts, sure it could be because SH is weak, but a series must have some strength in order to do that kind of a beating.

We all know Mega Man is the top Capcom series, but which one takes second place (MMX = spin-off)? Ever since this match started there has been talk about SF upsetting RE, but I don’t see that happening. If this match happened before Resident Evil 4 you could make a point, but since it did come out I don’t see why this match is in question.

Before RE4 the series had been slowly dieing out. The days of the Playstation were long gone and as the years go by the series were becoming less and less popular. Resident Evil 4 was announced to be released on the Gamecube in early 2005. The game became one of the must have games and was nominated and won many Game of the Year Awards. The series since then has been reborn and Resident Evil 5 has been announced to be released on the Playstation 3.

Street Fighter is also a big name series back in the Arcade days and was one of the few series that kept them alive after the 90’s. The problem with Street Fighter, like Resident Evil had before RE4 was that it is past its prime and with no new games being hyped coming out soon it looks like it will continue to fall. Take a look at what happen to Ryu, he was one of the strongest characters back in 2002 though except for 2k3 always had a bad spot and lost in round 2, but now he has become weaker and would need a favorable spot in order to get to the Sweet 16.

Like I said if Resident Evil 4 had never had come out this match would be hotly debated and I probably wouldn’t know who to pick, but since it did Resident Evil should have little trouble winning. Hopefully this match won’t have as much whiners saying “Street Fighter lost!?!” like it did during SMRPG/SFII.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Resident Evil over Street Fighter

charmander6000’s Prediction: Resident Evil wins, 58.56% - 41.44%

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/24/2006 6:55:13 PM | message detail
For the final... I have a bad feeling FF is gonna lose. I have never predicted the final winner correctly before (except the Villian contest, obviously).
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/24/2006 7:02:18 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse24.jpg

XD
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alpha door | Posted 7/24/2006 7:03:10 PM | message detail
What the heck is that? </Falco>
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/24/2006 7:03:27 PM | message detail
SF for the WIN!!!!
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/24/2006 7:03:39 PM | message detail
Talk about unfair!

Oh well, RE still gon' win!
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charmander6000 | Posted 7/24/2006 7:03:49 PM | message detail
RE is so screwed.

>_>
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Who Cares? | Posted 7/24/2006 7:04:32 PM | message detail
WOW, I guess Ceej couldn't find those Jill & zombie sprites from MvC2 afterall! :( Those are MGS bad. Ah well, at least we get Akuma!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/24/2006 7:05:06 PM | message detail
GAIDEN'D!
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Who Cares? | Posted 7/24/2006 7:06:32 PM | message detail
dangit, meant to say MG bad, not MGS
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/24/2006 7:07:23 PM | message detail
Why did CJayC choose RE Gaiden sprites? Seriously, why?
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Heroic Dr Wily | Posted 7/24/2006 7:08:25 PM | message detail
Probably because RE-G is the butt of many jokes.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 7:08:54 PM | message detail
Holy crap, that's a horrible picture for RE. Even the "good guy" side of Resident Evil (I think that's what it is) looks like he's about to get owned by Akuma.

Not that I care how bad RE's picture is. Go Street Fighter!
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xp1337 | Posted 7/24/2006 7:10:10 PM | message detail
XD

I know it's been said, but...

RE is so screwed
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trannyscience | Posted 7/24/2006 7:11:48 PM | message detail
good god. SF supporters, you got the miracle you needed. time to find out if it's enough!
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/24/2006 7:12:22 PM | message detail
I actually think this is one of those pics that is going to cause SF to overperform slightly. If I could, I'd lower my prediction to 55% now.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 7:13:12 PM | message detail
I don't think I have to mention this again, but...

Hadouken = Instant win
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/24/2006 7:14:38 PM | message detail
If its close and SF wins, this would perhaps be the only case in which pics held signifigance. Sonic/SSB wasn't clsoe enough.

Go go Shotokens!
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trannyscience | Posted 7/24/2006 7:15:51 PM | message detail
shotokens?!

best part: if SF wins, it's all the picture. if RE wins, it underperformed because of the picture.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/24/2006 7:17:32 PM | message detail
That's how the Stats topic rolls!
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/24/2006 7:19:47 PM | message detail
BTW, I'm not normally a fan of arguing that pictures significantly affect the outcome of a match, however, I think that factor is bigger in this contest.

When one thinks of a character or game, we already have concrete images of the game. Cloud evokes thought of limits, whiny Mako-caused personality disorders, etc. Games likewise, give us memories of when we first entered the Water Temple and walked out 5 days later, and etc.

However, a "series" is much more open to interpretation. If a voter's first sees SNES Final Fantasy sprites, they may think of Cloud/Squall/etc. eventually, but they won't right away. Assuming that voters take no longer than half a minute to vote(max.), a picture would seem to have an important role in guiding these thoughts.

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rpgapzx | Posted 7/24/2006 7:21:18 PM | message detail
shotokens?!

It's a term used to group Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Evil Ryu, Shin Akuma, etc. Basically, anyone with a Shoryuken/Fireball/Hurricane Kick moveset.

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trannyscience | Posted 7/24/2006 7:23:23 PM | message detail
...oh. er, um, okay.
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creativename | Posted 7/24/2006 7:24:43 PM | message detail
good god. SF supporters, you got the miracle you needed. time to find out if it's enough!

I agree. Miracle, while obviously an exaggeration (and RE is still the clear favorite), is fitting in some sense ;)


best part: if SF wins, it's all the picture. if RE wins, it underperformed because of the picture.

How could it be any other way? Unless SF wins convincingly then clearly it would be logical to think the picture might've changed the result - due to an RE underperformance. Which even if RE wins is logical anyway. Else everybody wouldn't be either freaking out/laughing like Monty Burns at this, depending on who they're rooting for.

RE should still win, but I think most people's %age expectations just dipped at least a bit.
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MnMZero | Posted 7/24/2006 7:25:15 PM | message detail
What the hell? Come on now, that's an absolutely ridiculous match pic. Where the hell are the Jill/Zombie Marvel vs. Capcom 2 sprites? CJayC HAD to use them for this round. Hell, you can get all the sprites from this matchup from the same game!!
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trannyscience | Posted 7/24/2006 7:27:48 PM | message detail
I'm just saying that if the upset materializes, people will point to the picture factor even though we have no idea how much it matters. pre-existing assumptions on how the match is going to go will dictate people's responses. the picture may not alter anything at all, we have no idea.

I dropped my prediction... 2%?, but am still calling for an Ulti-style blowout. if SF wins though, I'll say good game and admit I was wrong, not blame the picture.
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MnMZero | Posted 7/24/2006 7:28:04 PM | message detail
http://www.galeon.com/efex/web/imagenes/snk/Jill2.gif

Seriously Ceej. It wasn't that hard....
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Tediz247 | Posted 7/24/2006 7:28:34 PM | message detail
It's Solid **** 2: Resi**** Evil. Ugh, horrible pic, and one which damn well could make a difference.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 7/24/2006 7:29:41 PM | message detail
I will definitely blame the picture if SF wins.
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/24/2006 7:30:35 PM | message detail
I dropped my prediction... 2%?, but am still calling for an Ulti-style blowout. if SF wins though, I'll say good game and admit I was wrong, not blame the picture.

I hate to be the one arguing in favor of the picture having an effect, but you admittedly swung 4% off a picture. That's pretty big.

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rpgapzx | Posted 7/24/2006 7:32:14 PM | message detail
Granted, I do think that whatever performance we see tommorow can be attributted more to SF's inherent strength/weakness, I just think this situation calls for the pic to play a bigger role than normal.

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Heroic Dr Wily | Posted 7/24/2006 7:32:42 PM | message detail
http://www.galeon.com/efex/web/imagenes/snk/Jill2.gif

That's an edited sprite, not MvC2 Jill.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/24/2006 7:32:52 PM | message detail
It's not even that RE's pic is so bad. It's also that SF's is so good. Ryu doing the hadoken on a blob of ****, Akuma, and Thailand as the background. SF's side reeks of nostalgia.
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/24/2006 7:35:08 PM | message detail
It's not even that RE's pic is so bad. It's also that SF's is so good. Ryu doing the hadoken on a blob of ****, Akuma, and Thailand as the background. SF's side reeks of nostalgia.

Word. Couldn't have said it any better myself. The only thing better would've been Chun-Li in there. Naked.
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creativename | Posted 7/24/2006 7:37:02 PM | message detail
I'm just saying that if the upset materializes, people will point to the picture factor even though we have no idea how much it matters. pre-existing assumptions on how the match is going to go will dictate people's responses. the picture may not alter anything at all, we have no idea.

That's what a huge part of the things we discuss fall under (too much for my tastes). It's true that there will be no data on this either, so no one can be overly confident, but that this hilariously one-sided picture will have some impact seems plain.

I for one think that if Street Fighter wins with less than 52%, you'd have to be biased to not admit the picture might've changed the result. But that's getting ahead of ourselves, let's see how the match goes first.

Even if Resident Evil wins comfortably it might've been able to do better, but in that case no one will care.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 7/24/2006 7:37:15 PM | message detail
I wish he had at least given RE its own background.
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Who Cares? | Posted 7/24/2006 7:38:04 PM | message detail
http://www.galeon.com/efex/web/imagenes/snk/Jill2.gif

That's an edited sprite, not MvC2 Jill.


Yeah, here's MvC2 Jill: http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fightgen/characters2/jill-a.html
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Tediz247 | Posted 7/24/2006 7:38:35 PM | message detail
I think this is the first pic in which two of the three situations for which I'll argue a pic making a difference apply. One entry is completely unrecognizable (Lettuce Kefka, Solid ****) and one completely stands out (Ocelot/Pac-Man).
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/24/2006 7:39:10 PM | message detail
People using pictures as the reason Street Fighter will win?

*shakes my head*
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KamikazePotato | Posted 7/24/2006 7:40:30 PM | message detail
Dear god, that pic is incredibly bad. If it wasn't for the Hadoken it would be one of the worst pics ever.

Also, MM wins the second night vote? What happened there?

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HaRRicH | Posted 7/24/2006 7:42:48 PM | message detail
RE will still win guys, but it under-performing isn't out of the question...we'll see what happens.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 7:43:59 PM | message detail
Street Fighter was going to win anyway, guys. Don't worry about it.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 7/24/2006 7:43:59 PM | message detail
It's really upsetting that CJayC just changes and goes back to the picture theme whenever he wants to. Why can't he just stay with it?
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/24/2006 7:44:51 PM | message detail
Rank these lopsided pictures of Round 2 in least to most one-sided...

SF/RE
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse24.jpg

Megaman/Final Fantasy
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse23.jpg

Sonic/SSB
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse22.jpg

SMB/Warcraft
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse21.jpg

Solid ****/ FE
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse19.jpg

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