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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 326

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steve illumina | Posted 7/24/2006 6:36:09 AM | message detail
Time to start getting rady for the upset of all upsets. SF over RE baby. I will look so damn good after that one :)
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Applekidjosh | Posted 7/24/2006 6:38:26 AM | message detail
steve is still here after the crushing blow of ssb?
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steve illumina | Posted 7/24/2006 6:39:20 AM | message detail
Did you think one loss would do me in???
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Score: 28/30. Next Win: SF...
Kratos_42 | Posted 7/24/2006 6:47:09 AM | message detail
...Don't you have two losses, as evidenced by your sig?
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Giggsalot | Posted 7/24/2006 6:51:10 AM | message detail
2nd round matches = two points.
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jonthomson | Posted 7/24/2006 7:44:47 AM | message detail
Match 24 - Street Fighter vs Resident Evil

This is the only match that I really had to think about before submitting my final bracket. Initially I picked Street Fighter without thinking, and then thought for a little bit. Street Fighter ought not to be that much stronger than Street Fighter 2. Resident Evil would have given it a run for its money before RE4 was released. Now that's out, that ought to tip any doubt there might be about this match.

SF's first match was against the Elder Scrolls series of games, and despite murmurings of a possible "upset", Street Fighter pulled through comfortably, threatening a doubling before ending the match at just below 65% (for possibly my best Oracle pick this contest). Resident Evil faced fodder in the shape of Shadow Hearts. And crushed it. In all seriousness, this was one heck of a performance, finishing at over 87% and threatening 100K votes. This simply isn't seen by anything other than elite contenders. Of course, that is likely to do with massive weakness on the part of SH, but still, it's ridiculous.

Resident Evil will have no problems here and will complete a fourth 1 vs 2 matchup for the last eight stages. How predictable.

Bracket says: Resident Evil
Favourites bracket says: Street Fighter
Vote says: Street Fighter
Prediction: Resident Evil with 61.23%

Fun fact of the day: We've seen just three upsets based on seedings, two of which were expected, and we only have 69 perfects to date? That's insanely low, am i rite?
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Big Bob | Posted 7/24/2006 7:59:52 AM | message detail
As much as I like PW, there's no way in hell I'm reading all of those.

FF's doing on par as I predicted, so I don't think it's stronger or weaker than Zelda at this point.

BOLD PREDICTION: Resident Evil will be 4th strongest.
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Glarbluk | Posted 7/24/2006 8:04:23 AM | message detail
Here's the deal, even if you vehemently do not want FF to win this contest, there is no denying it is a better series then MM.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/24/2006 8:08:48 AM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: Resident Evil will be 4th strongest.

Nope. Mega Man (and possibly Street Fighter <_<) will rank higher than RE.

But I think it's pretty much between SSB, Metal Gear, and Mega Man for the 4th strongest series. We won't really know about SSB thanks to the nasty SFF it will receive, so that just leaves MM and MG.
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Crimson Dragoon | Posted 7/24/2006 8:10:56 AM | message detail
Time to start getting rady for the upset of all upsets. SF over RE baby. I will look so damn good after that one :)

Heh heh heh. Tomorrow will be a good day for me.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/24/2006 8:13:30 AM | message detail
FACT OR FICTION: If/When RE wins tomorrow, steve illumina will kill himself.
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Crimson Dragoon | Posted 7/24/2006 8:14:49 AM | message detail
FACT OR FACT: If/When RE wins tomorrow, I will make sure steve illumina hears about it all damn day.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/24/2006 8:31:54 AM | message detail
I'm with you on that, FFD....If he hasn't killed himself yet.
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steve illumina | Posted 7/24/2006 12:30:27 PM | message detail
I only got 1 loss friend...Sonic...cost me 2 points losing to that one hit wonder...

And no I wont kill myself. So its FICTION :)

Now to write the essay to defend the Father of Fighters...
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/24/2006 12:32:45 PM | message detail
Time to start getting rady for the upset of all upsets. SF over RE baby. I will look so damn good after that one :)

Not as good as me.

*runs*
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/24/2006 2:08:54 PM | message detail
A Relevant Fact/Fiction: SF will have the picture advantage tommorow. The faces of Ryu/Ken/Chun Li etc. in a Sonic/SSB style.

*please put th epic up CJC*

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/24/2006 2:12:41 PM | message detail
SF will have the pic advantage due to how bad RE's pic will inevitably be.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/24/2006 2:15:18 PM | message detail
LOL Resident Evil! More like ResiHADOKENent Evil me rite? </fanboyism>
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Phediuk | Posted 7/24/2006 4:09:50 PM | message detail
*COMPARISONS GAME- (6) Street Fighter vs. (2) Resident Evil*

Sales

Given how much of a sensation SFII was back in the early 90s, I'm going to play it safe and go with SF on this one.

Advantage: Street Fighter

Hype

Street Fighter:

Only about 2 people still actively play SF games. Just make SFIV for al-****ing-ready, Capcom.

Resident Evil:

RE4 is still being talked about. Yes, 18 months later.

Advantage: Resident Evil

Number of Games

Street Fighter:

Main series-

Street Fighter (Arcade, 1987)
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior (Arcade, 1991)
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting (Arcade, 1992)
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers (Arcade, 1993)
Street Fighter III: New Generation (Arcade, 1997)
Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact (Arcade, 1998)
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike (Arcade, 1999)

Spinoffs/ports:

Street Fighter (C64, 1988)
Street Fighter (Amiga, 1988)
Fighting Street (TCD, 1988)
Street Fighter 2010 (NES, 1990)
Street Fighter II Champion Edition (Arcade, 1992)
Street Fighter II (C64, 1992)
Street Fighter II (Amiga, 1992)
Street Fighter II (SNES, 1992)
Street Fighter II Turbo (SNES, 1993)
Street Fighter II' Champion Edition (TG16, 1993)
Street Fighter II Special Champion Edition (Genesis, 1993)
Super Street Fighter II (Genesis, 1994)
Super Street Fighter II (SNES, 1994)
Super Street Fighter II Turbo (Arcade, 1994)
Super Street Fighter II Turbo (3DO, 1994)
Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams (Arcade, 1995)
Street Fighter Alpha (PSX, 1995)
Street Fighter II Movie (PSX, 1995)
Street Fighter II Movie (Saturn, 1995)
Super Street Fighter II Turbo (Amiga, 1995)
Street Fighter II (GB, 1995)
Street Fighter: The Movie (Arcade, 1995)
Street Fighter: The Movie (PSX, 1995)
Street Fighter: The Movie (Saturn, 1995)
Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams (Saturn, 1996)
Street Fighter Alpha 2 (Arcade, 1996)
Street Fighter Alpha 2 (PSX, 1996)
Street Fighter Alpha 2 (Saturn, 1996)
Street Fighter Alpha 2 (SNES, 1996)
Street Fighter Zero 2 Alpha (Arcade, 1996)
Super Street Fighter II (PC, 1996)
Super Street Fighter II Turbo (PC, 1996)
Street Fighter EX (Arcade, 1996)
X-Men vs. Street Fighter (Arcade, 1996)
X-Men vs. Street Fighter (PSX, 1996)
X-Men vs. Street Fighter (Saturn, 1996)
Street Fighter EX Plus (Arcade, 1997)
Street Fighter Alpha 2 (PC, 1997)
Street Fighter II' (SMS, 1997)
Street Fighter EX Plus Alpha (PSX, 1997)
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter (Arcade, 1997)
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter (PSX, 1997)
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter (Saturn, 1997)
Street Fighter EX 2 (Arcade, 1998)
Street Fighter Alpha 3 (Arcade, 1998)
Street Fighter EX 2 Plus (Arcade, 1999)
Street Fighter EX2 Plus (PSX, 1999)
Street Fighter Alpha 3 (PSX, 1999)
Street Fighter Alpha 3 (Saturn, 1999)
Street Fighter Zero 3 Upper (Arcade, 1999)
Street Fighter Alpha (GBC, 2000)
Street Fighter Alpha (PC, 2000)
Street Fighter Alpha 3 (DC, 2000)
Street Fighter III: Double Impact (DC, 2000)
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike (DC, 2000)
Street Fighter EX3 (PS2, 2000)
Super Street II X for Matching Service (DC, 2001)
Super Street Fighter II: Turbo Revival (GBA, 2001)
Street Fighter Alpha 3 (GBA, 2002)
Hyper Street Fighter II: The Anniversary Edition (PS2, 2003)
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection (PS2, 2004)
Street Fighter II (Mobile, 2004)
Street Fighter Alpha: Maximum Blow (Mobile, 2004)
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike (PS2, 2004)
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection (Xbox, 2005)
Street Fighter Alpha: Rapid Battle (Mobile, 2005)
Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX (PSP, 2006)
Street Fighter Alpha Anthology (PS2, 2006)

Total- 75
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Phediuk | Posted 7/24/2006 4:10:11 PM | message detail
Resident Evil:

Main series-

Resident Evil (PSX, 1996)
Resident Evil 2 (PSX, 1998)
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis (PSX, 1999)
Resident Evil Code: Veronica (DC, 2000)
Resident Evil (GC, 2002)
Resident Evil Zero (GC, 2002)
Resident Evil 4 (GC, 2005)

Spinoffs/ports-

Resident Evil (Saturn, 1997)
Resident Evil (PC, 1997)
Resident Evil: Director's Cut (PSX, 1997)
Resident Evil 2: Dual Shock Version (PSX, 1998)
Resident Evil: Director's Cut Dual Shock Version (PSX, 1998)
Resident Evil 2 (Game.com, 1998)
Resident Evil 2 (PC, 1999)
Resident Evil 2 (N64, 1999)
Resident Evil 2 (DC, 2000)
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis (DC, 2000)
Resident Evil: Survivor (PSX, 2000)
Resident Evil Survivor 2 - Code: Veronica (PS2, 2001)
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis (PC, 2001)
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X (PS2, 2001)
Resident Evil: Survivor (PC, 2002)
Resident Evil Gaiden (GBC, 2002)
Resident Evil: Dead Aim (PS2, 2003)
Resident Evil 2 (GC, 2003)
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis (GC, 2003)
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X (GC, 2003)
Pure Evil 2-Pack (GC, 2004)
Resident Evil (Mobile, 2004)
Resident Evil Outbreak (PS2, 2004)
Resident Evil Outbreak File #2 (PS2, 2005)
Resident Evil 4 (PS2, 2005)
Resident Evil: Deadly Silence (DS, 2006)
Resident Evil: The Missions (Mobile, 2006)

Total- 34

Advantage: Street Fighter
Phediuk | Posted 7/24/2006 4:11:08 PM | message detail
GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs:

Street Fighter:

Street Fighter- 3
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior- 14
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting- 8
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers- 11
Street Fighter III: New Generation- 23
Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact- 15
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike- 68
Total- 142

Resident Evil:

Resident Evil- 21
Resident Evil 2- 45
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis- 39
Resident Evil Code: Veronica- 26
Resident Evil (GC)- 45
Resident Evil Zero- 31
Resident Evil 4- 46
Total- 243

Advantage: Resident Evil

Average review score/Number of reviews:

Street Fighter:

Street Fighter- 5.50 (16)
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior- 9.08 (12)
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting- 9.25 (4)
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers- 8.00 (3)
Street Fighter III: New Generation- 8.33 (3)
Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact- 7.50 (2)
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike- 7.71 (7)
Series average- 7.91 (47)

Resident Evil:

Resident Evil- 8.55 (33)
Resident Evil 2- 8.80 (40)
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis- 8.80 (40)
Resident Evil Code: Veronica- 8.95 (39)
Resident Evil (GC)- 9.06 (66)
Resident Evil Zero- 8.47 (6)
Resident Evil 4- 9.44 (106)
Series average- 8.87 (330)

Advantage: Resident Evil/Resident Evil

Board activity:

Arcade games tend not to do so well in regards to board activity.

Advantage: Resident Evil

Board Odds Project

Match prediction:

Resident Evil- 109
Street Fighter- 22
Elder Scrolls- 1

lol, Elder Scrolls.

Advantage: Resident Evil

Point value:

Resident Evil- 350
Street Fighter- 168

The numbers speak for themselves, I should think.

Advantage: Resident Evil

Previous contest representation

Street Fighter:

SC2002-

Ryu (10th)
Ken (14th)

SC2003-

Ryu (18th)

Sp2004-

Street Fighter II (27th)

SC2004-

Ryu (9th)

Sp2005-

M. Bison (6th)

SC2005-

Ryu (23rd)

Top 100-

Street Fighter II: The World Warrior (#47)

Resident Evil:

SC2002-

Claire Redfield (13th)
Jill Valentine (16th)

SC2003-

Jill Valentine (28th)

Sp2004-

Resident Evil (43rd)

SC2004-

Jill Valentine (29th)

Sp2005-

Nemesis (9th)
Wesker (25th)

SC2005-

Leon Kennedy (26th)
Wesker (56th)

Top 100-

Resident Evil 4 (#14)
Resident Evil (#53)

Advantage: Street Fighter

Intangibles

It's as simple as this: RE has RE4. SF doesn't.

Advantage: Resident Evil

Conclusion

RE with 60%.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/24/2006 4:12:38 PM | message detail
RE4 will give Resident Evil a boost and definately gave the series the kick-in-the-ass it needed. But SF has much more of an online presense than RE does.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/24/2006 4:40:27 PM | message detail
Phediuk: Resident Evil is Capcom's best-selling series. Street Fighter's sales as a series aren't too impressive when you consider that 16 million of its 24 million sales (including Alpha) come from Street Fighter 2...and look how strong SF2 was.

RE4 will give Resident Evil a boost and definately gave the series the kick-in-the-ass it needed. But SF has much more of an online presense than RE does.

The number of reviews for it on GameFAQs suggests otherwise. Nobody cares about fighting games here.
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trannyscience | Posted 7/24/2006 4:42:37 PM | message detail
RE4 will give Resident Evil a boost and definately gave the series the kick-in-the-ass it needed. But SF has much more of an online presense than RE does.

where did you come up with this?
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Lopen | Posted 7/24/2006 4:50:36 PM | message detail
Well before RE4 I'd agree with the SF having more online presence without thinking. RE has done nothing impressive pre RE4 here on GameFAQs.

Now? I'm not sure... but I have SF winning and it's one of the few picks I'm still confident in. More at 11!
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trannyscience | Posted 7/24/2006 4:57:45 PM | message detail
the Lopen curse? Street Fighter is so screwed
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/24/2006 4:59:21 PM | message detail
The Analysis Crew curse > The Lopen curse <_<
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trannyscience | Posted 7/24/2006 4:59:38 PM | message detail
but Lopen's on the analysis crew!
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/24/2006 4:59:51 PM | message detail
Hey guys, I have this really good idea where we finish the old stats topic before this one.

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/24/2006 5:00:27 PM | message detail
But the crew will favor RE, meaning that SF will win!
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trannyscience | Posted 7/24/2006 5:00:34 PM | message detail
objection.somethingsomethingsomething.luckynumber=38943857
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/24/2006 5:01:03 PM | message detail
Hey tranny your link doesn't work. WAZ UP WIT DAT?!

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Phediuk | Posted 7/24/2006 5:01:28 PM | message detail
Phediuk: Resident Evil is Capcom's best-selling series. Street Fighter's sales as a series aren't too impressive when you consider that 16 million of its 24 million sales (including Alpha) come from Street Fighter 2...and look how strong SF2 was.

Sales of arcade units really don't tell you how amny people have actually played the games. I'm willing to bet that twice as many people have played SFII than the entire RE series.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/24/2006 5:02:57 PM | message detail

Sales of arcade units really don't tell you how amny people have actually played the games. I'm willing to bet that twice as many people have played SFII than the entire RE series.


And yet SFII isn't that strong here.

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Phediuk | Posted 7/24/2006 5:03:51 PM | message detail
So? Sales don't equal strength; we know that already.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/24/2006 5:04:15 PM | message detail
My bad... Mac made me think you were saying SF would beat RE.

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Lopen | Posted 7/24/2006 5:06:12 PM | message detail
There's no Lopen curse! Mega Man still beat Mario Kart with ease, right? And I had SSB in my bracket! Even though I was preaching Sonic to win!

The question of RE v SF is how much can one game add? Because I'm convinced that pre RE4 SF wins this match with ease.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/24/2006 5:07:29 PM | message detail
The question of RE v SF is how much can one game add? Because I'm convinced that pre RE4 SF wins this match with ease.

That is a good question. How strong is SF if you take away SF2?
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/24/2006 5:07:39 PM | message detail
The question of RE v SF is how much can one game add? Because I'm convinced that pre RE4 SF wins this match with ease.

I don't know, I'd wager as much as the entire DMC series!

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trannyscience | Posted 7/24/2006 5:08:10 PM | message detail
ask SSBM that question!
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/24/2006 5:08:30 PM | message detail
Lopen just got triple burned!

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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/24/2006 5:09:04 PM | message detail
That is a good question. How strong is SF if you take away SF2?

Well, weak enough to be beaten by RE seeing how SF2 is the one SF game everyone thinks of if asked about it.
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Lopen | Posted 7/24/2006 5:09:39 PM | message detail
I'm not saying it's condemned to lose because it's only one game, don't get me wrong. I'm just doubting if that one game will be enough.

And clearly, Sonic/DMC was a victim of series SFF! Clearly!
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/24/2006 5:11:23 PM | message detail
I'm not saying it's condemned to lose because it's only one game, don't get me wrong. I'm just doubting if that one game will be enough.

Let's put it this way, without SFII and RE4, I'd easily take RE to beat SF, at the same time I'd have little reservation taking RE4 over SFII, hell even if it managed to beat RE4 (not something I really see happening, but debatable), it would need to beat it handily to make up the difference in the series.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 5:21:26 PM | message detail
without SFII and RE4, I'd easily take RE to beat SF

...Really? You don't say? Street Fighter probably doesn't win without Street Fighter II, one of the most influential, revolutionary, and widespread video games ever?

I am stunned that you would even suggest that.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/24/2006 5:31:02 PM | message detail
You say that like it's any different from SF supporters saying RE4 is only one game, how much can one game add to it?! When it's completely evident that SF relies almost entirely on SFII, and RE has more components to it than just RE4, despite RE4 being far and away it's strongest game.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/24/2006 5:32:16 PM | message detail
Comparing Resident Evil 4 to Street Fighter II is a bit of a stretch, in my opinion. Street Fighter would be nothing without SFII, while RE would still be fine without RE4.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/24/2006 5:33:09 PM | message detail
Right, but I don't really see a reason for SFII to be that far ahead of RE in terms of strength if at all, so when you do include both games into the series strength, RE still takes it.

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_Seer_ | Posted 7/24/2006 5:34:57 PM | message detail
Hmm.

Resident Evil wins.



At least that's how I see it.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/24/2006 5:37:45 PM | message detail
It's as simple as this: RE has RE4. SF doesn't.

That's essentially my Crew writeup.

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