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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/24/2006 9:54:29 PM | message detail
Lead of 237 against SF already is equivalent to 2000 against KH. Street Fighter has no hope in this match.
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/24/2006 9:54:50 PM | message detail
Maybe I'm wrong, but it is looking eerily similar to GTA/Warcraft. We'll see how it plays out, I'll probably end up looking like a fool though...
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Sp2k6: 28/30 Rank: Tied for 460th Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses.
Yesterday's Pick: FF Today: SF Tomorrow: Zelda - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match
HaRRicH | Posted 7/24/2006 9:55:07 PM | message detail
I don't think there was SFF in MM/MK...but I'm not ruling it impossible. Afterall, I think Yoshi wins those Mario-fave polls because of the spin-offs, and Mega Man has SFF'd Yoshi before.

Hard to say, but I don't think it's far from MK's true strength if it isn't what we have already seen.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/24/2006 9:55:58 PM | message detail
Another stall... I'm gone for the night.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
transience | Posted 7/24/2006 9:56:12 PM | message detail
hey look, people calling a 51-49 match with 23 hours to go.

*cheers*
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2006 9:57:02 PM | message detail
Yeah, you think that.

Why not? It's a Noble Niner's Nintendo series against a spinoff Nintendo series, a touch of SFF is by no means impossible (though I certainly don't think it's significant). Same deal with SSB/Sonic.
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Yesmar | Posted 7/24/2006 9:57:56 PM | message detail
For what it's worth, Street Fighter II was leading Super Mario RPG with close to 51% when the poll started, but Super Mario RPG came back to win with 56%.

Although, to play Devil's Advocate, Super Mario RPG probably has a way better day vote then Resident Evil does.
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transience | Posted 7/24/2006 9:58:17 PM | message detail
and I'd say MM > RE > MK > SF. not sure where I'd put MMX.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 9:58:29 PM | message detail
Meh, when a match is within 60/40, I'm very hesitant to call for SFF unless it's blatantly obvious (Mario/Samus is really the only thing that stands out).
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/24/2006 9:58:36 PM | message detail
I like how Leon keep saying "Yeah, you think that." I just find it hilarious for some reason.
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Sp2k6: 28/30 Rank: Tied for 460th Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses.
Yesterday's Pick: FF Today: SF Tomorrow: Zelda - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match
Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/24/2006 9:59:01 PM | message detail
-1199 to +3416

What a swing for KH!
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transience | Posted 7/24/2006 10:00:15 PM | message detail
well, if you never had seen Samus and Mario before, would you have called SFF in a 60-40 Samus loss? would you expect Samus to be stronger than Mario in the first place?

with MK/MM, you really have no idea because we've never seen them before.
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xyzzy
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 10:00:15 PM | message detail
And it doesn't appear that Bowser/Yoshi or Yoshi/Luigi had any SFF either, and they're from the same series.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 10:01:07 PM | message detail
well, if you never had seen Samus and Mario before, would you have called SFF in a 60-40 Samus loss?

Oh, I would've called rSFF, all right.

For Samus.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/24/2006 10:02:31 PM | message detail
-1199 to +3416

Was that the biggest swing ever? Well, not counting the first update of couse, since Cloud probably had a million vote swing against Cats.
LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 10:03:30 PM | message detail
At the 1:00 mark, this match has 11909 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time:

Zelda/MMX - 12992
Pokemon/Metroid - 11720
Metal Gear/Fire Emblem - 11568
Mario/Warcraft - 12172
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2006 10:03:38 PM | message detail
Well, it's certainly possible -- in fact, it's probable -- that MM/MK had no SFF whatsoever. But I like to keep the possibility for MK to be underrated open. I certainly don't think Street Fighter is going to be underrated based on this match in any way...
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/24/2006 10:04:11 PM | message detail
From: MasterOfHunters
-1199 to +3416

Was that the biggest swing ever? Well, not counting the first update of couse, since Cloud probably had a million vote swing against Cats.


No, Sora/Alucard was bigger.
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Sp2k6: 28/30 Rank: Tied for 460th Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses.
Yesterday's Pick: FF Today: SF Tomorrow: Zelda - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match
LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 10:04:17 PM | message detail
Eh, what does it matter if Mario Kart's underrated or not?
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charmander6000 | Posted 7/24/2006 10:05:18 PM | message detail
Was that the biggest swing ever? Well, not counting the first update of couse, since Cloud probably had a million vote swing against Cats.

Sora/Alucard destroys that

-75 - 10k

That's why I don't like to use vote swings, only comebacks.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 10:05:55 PM | message detail
And Resident Evil gets its first noteworthy gain in about 30 minutes.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2006 10:06:19 PM | message detail
Not much, really. Honestly, even if it couldn't beat SF, Mega Man still has a lot of room to work with. There's no way in my mind it's not Capcom's #1 series.
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transience | Posted 7/24/2006 10:06:45 PM | message detail
Eh, what does it matter if Mario Kart's underrated or not?

I expect people to try and gauge Mega Man 2/3 and SMK/MK64 through their matches in this contest, should they ever actually make a game contest. I'm not saying it's the best idea, but it can at least give us some hints.
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xyzzy
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/24/2006 10:08:49 PM | message detail
RE just HAS to lose this, otherwise the contest crew's streak of wrongly picking debated matches will end!
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Sp2k6: 28/30 Rank: Tied for 460th Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses.
Yesterday's Pick: FF Today: SF Tomorrow: Zelda - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2006 10:09:24 PM | message detail
Well, thanks to a power surge and my propensity to never save, I think I lost around 5 hours of my progress in Xenogears. Be back later!!
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charmander6000 | Posted 7/24/2006 10:09:33 PM | message detail
Wait SMRPG beat SFII by 12k
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 10:09:48 PM | message detail
It wasn't really "debated" by the Crew. Lopen and I are the odd ones out.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 10:10:48 PM | message detail
Of course, as soon as RE gets a big gain, SF turns right around with an update win. Exactly 51/49 now, baby!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2006 10:11:01 PM | message detail
It's not so much that the Crew debates it as it is the match itself being debated. Honestly, no one on the Crew gave WC a shot in hell, but it was the second most popular upset on the board (and would have been first if it weren't for stats guys endorsing MK > MM).
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Tai | Posted 7/24/2006 10:11:15 PM | message detail
Street Fighter 49% 6598
Resident Evil 51% 6868
TOTAL VOTES 13466

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transience | Posted 7/24/2006 10:11:50 PM | message detail
yeah, I'm proud to be a significant part of tons of brackets getting busted.
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xyzzy
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 10:12:27 PM | message detail
Nobody ever listens to MY radical upset picks! No fair!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/24/2006 10:13:07 PM | message detail
Gah, I hope RE starts dominating these updates soon, so my oracle pick of 53.42 will be somewhat valid


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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2006 10:13:46 PM | message detail
You gotta make more of your upset picks Nintendo-endorsed. Get behind a Kirby > Vincent bandwagon, and you'll get plenty of support. Same for a SSBM > FFVI upset or what have you.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2006 10:14:14 PM | message detail
SF has yet to win an update by anything resembling a significant margin. It's just...stalling.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/24/2006 10:14:19 PM | message detail
Wait until the kiddies wake up...really.
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Street Fighter vs. Resident Evil - Bracket: RE - Vote: RE (28/30)
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/24/2006 10:14:22 PM | message detail
From: LessThan3Presea
It wasn't really "debated" by the Crew. Lopen and I are the odd ones out.

As KH said, I meant debated on the board. Halo, GTA, MM, KH, Sonic, all heavily debated on the board and all picked by the crew and they all lost.
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Sp2k6: 28/30 Rank: Tied for 460th Losses: Halo, GTA but im gonna cry if he (Sonic) loses.
Yesterday's Pick: FF Today: SF Tomorrow: Zelda - Zikten on the Sonic/SSB match
transience | Posted 7/24/2006 10:14:53 PM | message detail
sounds like we need a new analysis crew. you guys are jokes !!

hey uh moltar sup
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 10:15:22 PM | message detail
But I had a better upset pick over Mega Man last summer and only 18 people took it! Squall > Magus was a slim minority, too, heh.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2006 10:17:50 PM | message detail
Again, neither are Nintendo-endorsed. What you needed was something like Donkey Kong > Master Chief. That always gets everyone excited!
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 10:18:48 PM | message detail
Pro-Nintendo, anti-XBox? Sounds like a goldmine!
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transience | Posted 7/24/2006 10:19:32 PM | message detail
if you can get Nintendo and Square in it, you're golden. like Mario RPG > Halo! or that 3 on 3 basketball game > Ninja Gaiden!
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
XxSoulxX | Posted 7/24/2006 10:19:43 PM | message detail
Donkey Kong should have destroyed MC, but he had to go and screw it all up. That dumb ape deserved to lose.
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bobby200614 | Posted 7/24/2006 10:20:04 PM | message detail
Hamster + Microwave = Awesomesauce.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2006 10:20:06 PM | message detail
I for one know I should have started a SSB > SMB bandwagon this time around. I could have argued it damn well, too! Ah well, there's always next contest...
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transience | Posted 7/24/2006 10:20:06 PM | message detail
DK's good at that. he's like EC in bed.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/24/2006 10:20:24 PM | message detail
You can't count -75 to x as a swing. You have to be down atleast 500 votes >_>
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/24/2006 10:20:27 PM | message detail
Squall > Magus

Ryu > Leon Kennedy
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transience | Posted 7/24/2006 10:20:36 PM | message detail
Elf Bowling > SHadow hearts
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!