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transience | Posted 7/23/2006 10:05:03 PM | message detail
There's no reason for a movie to bring new fans to the site though, I seriously doubt that FF7 shooting up the charts was due to new users, and not previous ones who already loved or at least liked FF7, because honestly, who else would bother downloading a copy of it at that point in time? I see no reason for it to bring new FF7 fans to the site.

it isn't - it's bringing old FF fans to the site. this place is like the FF7 haven. if people see the movie, they might want to talk about it on the boards, or they might want to replay their copy of FF7. the AC leak was rather huge here, it's tough to argue against that. when the Vincent match happened, it was like 2 or 3 days after the leak. by then it had time to circulate and for people to start hitting the game again.

that's the theory, anyway. I don't care to argue it any more than that.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 10:05:57 PM | message detail
What's wrong with the idea of Magus getting 53% on Tidus? It's not THAT far above him.

It's closer to 54% than 53%, and I think Tidus is potentially a smidge higher than he should be thanks to Kirby/Bowser or Bowser/Snake. Not that it's significant (as in he's probably still around that 2k4 value).

But that's part of the reason why I'm torn. It's strange, but it could be legitimate. I would take Squall over Bowser now, just to clarify.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 10:06:00 PM | message detail
Actually, it was the year after that that she plummeted. She overperfomed by 1% looking at 2k2, or 8% looking at 2k4.

Fair enough, but a 1% increase from 2K2 isn't something I'd call impressive.

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Tai | Posted 7/23/2006 10:08:55 PM | message detail
FF's hurting MM, and I'm loving it. :-)
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 10:10:29 PM | message detail

it isn't - it's bringing old FF fans to the site. this place is like the FF7 haven. if people see the movie, they might want to talk about it on the boards, or they might want to replay their copy of FF7. the AC leak was rather huge here, it's tough to argue against that. when the Vincent match happened, it was like 2 or 3 days after the leak. by then it had time to circulate and for people to start hitting the game again.

that's the theory, anyway. I don't care to argue it any more than that.


Well replaying FF7 doesn't really make it so that Vincent is suddenly more liked than he was before, people already had an opinion on him, and it's not going to change now. Hell I like Vyse, but I like Solid Snake more, if I go back to replay Skies of Arcadia for whatever reason, it doesn't suddenly make me like Vyse more than Solid Snake. I don't really understand how replaying a game or going back to it affects anything.

As for bringing people to the boards to discuss it, the amount of people using the boards is so insanely lower than the amount of people who vote in the contest. And I sincerely doubt that all of the board users were brought in to discuss the movie, meaning the % difference is nearly meaningless.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 10:11:28 PM | message detail
I like Vyse, but I like Solid Snake more, if I go back to replay Skies of Arcadia for whatever reason, it doesn't suddenly make me like Vyse more than Solid Snake

Yeah, only Heroic Mario would do something like that!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 10:13:50 PM | message detail
I think the thing is that people who already preferred Vincent to Crono were brought to the site when they would have been elsewhere without the AC leak. It's the same idea with Mario/Cloud. Yeah, most people on GameFAQs legitimately preferred Cloud. But when you release SMS, you're going to get an influx of people who like Mario, and have a tendency to like him better than Cloud. It won't be absolute, sure, but even 55-45 is enough to change the result of a match.

Not that AC had anywhere near the scale of SMS, it's just a comparison. If it had, Vincent could've made that match *scary*.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 10:13:59 PM | message detail
Yeah, only Heroic Mario would do something like that!

HM doesn't count dammit!

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Janus5000 | Posted 7/23/2006 10:14:50 PM | message detail
HM can't count either !!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 10:15:07 PM | message detail
If it had, Vincent could've made that match *scary*.

Squall = Crono > Mega Man > Sonic!
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dethfdddddh | Posted 7/23/2006 10:15:52 PM | message detail
It really looked like Vincent was going to win early on.....if he wasn't one of the most consistent characters percentage wise.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 10:16:51 PM | message detail
Okay, FF7 isn't playing around anymore. This is starting to get bad.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 10:17:13 PM | message detail
DAMMIT I DID IT AGAIN
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 10:17:36 PM | message detail
It's averaging high 73% at this point. A tripling is unlikely unless it gets a monster day vote.

And it got the day vote against Diablo despite that ridiculous percentage it was already at. Who knows?
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 10:18:18 PM | message detail
I think the thing is that people who already preferred Vincent to Crono were brought to the site when they would have been elsewhere without the AC leak. It's the same idea with Mario/Cloud. Yeah, most people on GameFAQs legitimately preferred Cloud. But when you release SMS, you're going to get an influx of people who like Mario, and have a tendency to like him better than Cloud. It won't be absolute, sure, but even 55-45 is enough to change the result of a match.

Solid Snake/Bowser - 101578
Vincent Valentine/Crono - 95360
Sonic/Mega Man - 98839

Sure, votal fluctuation is normal, but if I'm supposed to believe there is some new Vincent Valentine fans to be found on this site on account of Advent Children, shouldn't it's votals at least compare to the match previous to, and after it? Hell even if you further back another match, and another match into the future, the votals pale in comparison. I don't feel like looking any further, but I don't see this sudden increase in Vincent fans coming to the site to boost him up.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 10:20:23 PM | message detail
Well, the thing is that Vincent/Crono was also a Square/Square match. Two strong characters can pull in horrid votals if they share the same fanbase. Just look at Bowser/Kirby.

And it didn't have to bring a very large amount of people in either.
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/23/2006 10:20:25 PM | message detail
...What the hell was that?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 10:21:33 PM | message detail
Both of them dropped off by about 100 votes or so.
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/23/2006 10:21:51 PM | message detail
Oh, that was MM's votes not being updated.

Final Fantasy 73.09% 12498
Mega Man 26.91% 4601
TOTAL VOTES 17099
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 10:21:56 PM | message detail
FF finally loses a wee bit of percentage for the first time in a while. That makes me feel a bit better.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 10:24:35 PM | message detail
And it didn't have to bring a very large amount of people in either.

It's going to need a couple thousand to make a difference in the percent. If Vincent had received 2,000 less votes, he would have ended up with only a percent less than he had. And I honestly feel like 2,000 people is being very generous.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 10:27:48 PM | message detail
Heh, and Final Fantasy responds with a 75.71% update.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 10:27:53 PM | message detail
It's not exactly impossible. For all we know, Crono/Vincent could have been another Bowser/Kirby affair in terms of votes. If there was an increase, it's hard to gauge as it is.

And from what I do at least, it would seem that I put more stock into their performances than most. Squall > Bowser, Vincent > Ganondorf, and Knuckles > Yoshi are just a few of the results I would take in 2k6 that most wouldn't dream of. But I still have my doubts, and find it helpful to voice them.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 10:28:43 PM | message detail
*hits screen*

STUPID FIGHTING ROBOT!
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dethfdddddh | Posted 7/23/2006 10:29:03 PM | message detail
...Why wouldn't I dream of Knuckles>Yoshi?
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 10:30:31 PM | message detail
Granted, but I think Bowser/Kirby have more in common than Vincent/Crono is. And yeah, I realize that's pretty controversial, but meh. There's not much left to say about this issue anyway.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 10:30:49 PM | message detail
Knuckles > Yoshi is something I'd have a hard time taking considering he's barely ahead of Luigi.

Then again, he scores nearly the same percentage on Bowser that Yoshi did based on SC2K3, though I don't know what that's worth.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 10:34:28 PM | message detail
Squall > Bowser, Vincent > Ganondorf, and Knuckles > Yoshi

I forgot to mention that none of those seem unrealistic at all, and I'd be tempted by every single one.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 10:35:32 PM | message detail
I've already made my Squall > All non-Noble Niners stance known, and considering this contest probably won't even begin before Dirge of Cerberus is released, Vincent > Ganondorf is tempting as well.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 10:37:18 PM | message detail
Then it looks like we'll all be going down together in 2k6!
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 10:47:12 PM | message detail
Down to the top of the leaderboard maybe!

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/23/2006 10:57:11 PM | message detail

Yeah, only Heroic Mario would do something like that!


If that were so, I don't think I should play any more games outside of MGS anymore!!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 10:58:19 PM | message detail
I don't intend to be going down anywhere! Only up!
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/23/2006 11:00:21 PM | message detail
Vincent over Ganon better be taken by people in here. It's guaranteed to be after the much improved Dirge of Cerberus (releasing in mid-August), and I would definitely guess a potential match takes place before TP.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 11:00:35 PM | message detail
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/23/2006 11:10:51 PM | message detail
Hah.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/23/2006 11:25:46 PM | message detail
I saw the greatest thing at the beach today. Some giant seagull went into the water and caught a catfish. He then stood on guard for a good 15 minutes while at the same time killing the fish; he more or less poked away at the fish's heart until it died.

10 or so seagulls then ate the fish apart, leaving nothing but bones. No eyes, no tail, nothing but bones. And what's awesome is that they did it with amazing precision. No bone was ripped off by accident and nothing edible was left behind, all in a matter of minutes. Nature is awesome.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/23/2006 11:27:13 PM | message detail
You were at the beach? Man, I cannot wait to vacation to Florida in August.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/23/2006 11:28:47 PM | message detail
Yeah, I was at a wedding on Saturday (which kicked so much ass that I can't even go into details), then woke up real early this morning to hit up the Jersey Shore.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/23/2006 11:30:04 PM | message detail
Hah! I'll be going to a wedding in August, too. Good stuff.

The beach is always awesome to go to. <3

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/23/2006 11:31:34 PM | message detail
Man, I live in Florida and almost never go to the beach. Ironic, isn't it?
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/23/2006 11:32:37 PM | message detail
Man, I love in Georgia and I never go to the beach either.

...Of course, there's no beach for miles, and I'm too lazy to go. Besides, all that would happen to me is that I'd get sunburned because I can't swim.

Yes, I can't swim.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/23/2006 11:36:36 PM | message detail
You can't swim?! Ah, man, that has to be brutal. And I have been fortunate enough to never have gotten sunburn since I was a wee one.

(It's great that he posted that on his Jack Sparrow account, too! Looks like the Captain has a fault -- he can't swim!!)

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/23/2006 11:37:55 PM | message detail
Actually, Captain Jack Sparrow CAN swim. He proved it in the first movie. He's the pride of the king's navy!
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Ed Bellis | Posted 7/23/2006 11:39:00 PM | message detail
Don't feel too bad, Leon - the only reason I kinda know how to swim was because I had to pass the Red Cross test for swimming in tenth grade, and it took all year just to get me to learn the damn front stroke and the back stroke. Fear of water FTW!
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/23/2006 11:39:48 PM | message detail
Hmph!



And there is nothing scary about water, Bellis!!

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YoAriel33 | Posted 7/23/2006 11:40:18 PM | message detail
Swimming is awesome, Leon. I didn't learn as early as most kids (I was about 12), but I took to it fast. Hell, I'm now like a mermaid in the water.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/23/2006 11:41:12 PM | message detail
I remember I took some lessons when I was like 8 years old, and it didn't take. They even tried to do that technique where they throw you in the deep end and try to force you to swim. I basically hopped over to the side and climbed out.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 7/23/2006 11:41:13 PM | message detail
*merman
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/23/2006 11:43:38 PM | message detail
*merman

You had it right the first time. =p

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