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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 325
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| KamikazePotato | Posted 7/23/2006 9:39:50 PM | message detail |
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Why didn't CJayC just flip the picture, anyway? --- Angsty_Lou: Everything has a sexual connotation if you just look long and hard enough. Theo72: U SED LONG AND HARD LOL |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/23/2006 9:39:53 PM | message detail |
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popular theory that came about during the Villains Contest but one
that's got more evidence against than for after Wesker still proved to
be one weak character in SC2K5. So Mithos > Lloyd --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 9:40:26 PM | message detail |
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Eh, I have a hard time taking Villains Contest stats seriously, at least as far as percentages are concerned. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/23/2006 9:40:26 PM | message detail |
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The deal with Kefka/Wesker was that it made Luca Blight look really bad
(well, worse)...but we got the Mad Prince's value from Magus' 2k3
numbers. Whoops. --- Mustache...and green... |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/23/2006 9:40:48 PM | message detail |
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Final Fantasy is doing some nice damage right now. That tripling might not be out of the picture, which is awesome. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 9:41:27 PM | message detail |
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So Mithos > Lloyd This is the point that makes me believe in Mario/Zero SFF than anything else. Wesker still ends up being quite weak regardless. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transience | Posted 7/23/2006 9:41:30 PM | message detail |
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why in the world does what side the characters are on matter? the poll
is top-bottom. if you can't figure out how to click "final fantasy", I
seriously question your ability to use the internet. the reason FF is on the right is because all old FF games' battle system is predominantly on the right side. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 9:42:09 PM | message detail |
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So Mithos > Lloyd No, not really. You could very well attempt to adjust the Ruin Division through SC2k5 Diablo, though I have no idea how that would look (and would be too lazy to do it). --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 9:42:30 PM | message detail |
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And Mega Man is a left-to-right moving character as well. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 7/23/2006 9:42:39 PM | message detail |
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the reason FF is on the right is because all old FF games' battle system is predominantly on the right side. Is that what he said, our a reason we made up? --- Angsty_Lou: Everything has a sexual connotation if you just look long and hard enough. Theo72: U SED LONG AND HARD LOL |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 9:43:07 PM | message detail |
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We made it up and I'm sticking to it!! --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/23/2006 9:44:06 PM | message detail |
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You could very well attempt to adjust the Ruin Division through
SC2k5 Diablo, though I have no idea how that would look (and would be
too lazy to do it). I did that in 2k5 and I think Wesker was weaker during the spring by 2.3% (Kefka was weaker during summer by .75%). --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| transience | Posted 7/23/2006 9:44:08 PM | message detail |
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go ahead and google Final Fantasy sprites. you're not going to find very many facing left, especially of the FF1 variety. !! --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| transience | Posted 7/23/2006 9:44:25 PM | message detail |
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er, facing right I guess. on the left. whatever!! --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/23/2006 9:44:57 PM | message detail |
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Poor old Mega Man suffering a BBQ quality beatdown :( --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 9:45:00 PM | message detail |
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You could very well attempt to adjust the Ruin Division through
SC2k5 Diablo, though I have no idea how that would look (and would be
too lazy to do it). Heh, Diablo gets about a full percent less on Kefka in the SC2K5 stats, and Wesker gets about 4% more. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/23/2006 9:45:03 PM | message detail |
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No proof of that. I'd give it no more than 39% in a rematch. I'd call that a substantial increase. Two percent higher in the stats brings it right up to FFVI, and almost as high as SMB3. One interesting thing I noticed after yesterday's results was the surprisingly good performance of all the RPG series in the contest so far. Suikoden: did surprisingly well against a potentially very strong MMX. Pokemon: Shocked and awed us against Metroid. Star Ocean: Actually looks decent after Pokemon's performance against Metroid. Fire Emblem: Outdid SC against MG. Kingdom Hearts: Surprised many by beating CV, despite only having two (three) games. Harvest Moon: Performed amazingly against KH. Dragon Quest: Now looks almost as strong as DMC. Final Fantasy: No words needed. Diablo: Well, it was pretty pathetic, but it was up against FF. Elder Scrolls: Also poor, although we still have no idea how strong Street Fighter is. Shadow Hearts: LOL. Aside from those last three, RPGs have all been very impressive. I think that people here are underestimating the power of RPGFAQs. It's not just SquareFAQs anymore. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/23/2006 9:45:13 PM | message detail |
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From charmander6000 Posted 7/24/2006 12:37:00 AM Didn't Kefka's sprite make him overperform against Wesker. I would say that is his actualy performance while Lettuce Kefka makes him underperform. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 7/23/2006 9:45:41 PM | message detail |
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http://www.paperrad.org/ben/sprites/FinalFantasy3Sheet1.gif They seem to be facing right just fine. >_> --- Angsty_Lou: Everything has a sexual connotation if you just look long and hard enough. Theo72: U SED LONG AND HARD LOL |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 7/23/2006 9:46:06 PM | message detail |
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Decent update by MM, there. --- Angsty_Lou: Everything has a sexual connotation if you just look long and hard enough. Theo72: U SED LONG AND HARD LOL |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 9:46:43 PM | message detail |
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I'd call that a substantial increase Not even 1.5%, really. And 39% was the maximum, not what I'd actually call for it to get. Still wouldn't take it even over FFVI. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 9:46:55 PM | message detail |
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I'd call that a substantial increase. Two percent higher in the stats brings it right up to FFVI, and almost as high as SMB3. *1.43. If you're going to round, do it in the right direction ! ! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 9:48:16 PM | message detail |
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Go to hell Leon ! ! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 9:49:34 PM | message detail |
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Alright, here's the question...would anyone here actually expect SSBM to beat FFVI...? ...no way in hell for me. Not a chance. I'll take refuge in whatever small SFF CT could have taken against FFVII before I take SSBM over the site's second strongest FF game. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 7/23/2006 9:51:06 PM | message detail |
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FFVI would win, but not by that much. I'm guessing 52%-53%. --- Angsty_Lou: Everything has a sexual connotation if you just look long and hard enough. Theo72: U SED LONG AND HARD LOL |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 9:51:07 PM | message detail |
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Biggest update yet for FF there. Yeowch. Maybe the tripling isn't out of the question if it gets the day vote. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 9:51:12 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, FFVII/CT was almost automatically discredited as being SFF-less,
for whatever the reason. An underperformance of some sort wouldn't
surprise me. People weren't ashamed to call for a Vincent
overperformance against Crono because of FFVII. Come on, it's an optional character against Chrono Trigger's main character! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Yesmar | Posted 7/23/2006 9:51:30 PM | message detail |
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A popular theory that came about during the Villains Contest but one
that's got more evidence against than for after Wesker still proved to
be one weak character in SC2K5. If you plug Wesker's Summer 2005 number into the X-Stats formula and assume Kefka still gets 70% on him, Kefka jumps up to 25.93% on Base Link. Not a HUGE jump or anything, but it's fairly substantial and he'd probably fare even better with the laughing sprite. --- "Dropo! You're the laziest man on Mars." |
| transience | Posted 7/23/2006 9:51:38 PM | message detail |
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we argued this last November.. I get the feeling that FF6 is losing
some popularity. the characters seem to be dropping (although they were
never strong in the first place), FF6 placed "only" #10, etc etc. I
think I'd take SSBM with the current shift to Nintendo. SSBM may not
have been dominant in the game contest, but everything in the last two
years has suggested it's getting stronger with time. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 9:52:34 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, FFVII/CT was almost automatically discredited as being SFF-less, for whatever the reason. Probably because OoT is seen as being untouchable aside for FF7...I would really like to see another Games Contest now... --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 9:53:04 PM | message detail |
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...no way in hell for me. Not a chance. I'll take refuge in whatever
small SFF CT could have taken against FFVII before I take SSBM over the
site's second strongest FF game. No chance in hell do I take SSBM over FF6. It might not be a blowout (unless we're talking Ulti-style), but there's nothing to convince me that SSBM would overtake FF6. As much as NintendoFAQs has come into being, FF6 is just too far ahead of it, and this site sure as hell loves it's RPGs and Final Fantasy, hell it was on a Nintendo console. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 9:53:09 PM | message detail |
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the characters seem to be dropping Kefka seems to be rather consistent, really. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 9:53:50 PM | message detail |
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A consistent jobber! --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 9:55:12 PM | message detail |
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Jobbers are more consistent than we give them credit for !! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transience | Posted 7/23/2006 9:56:09 PM | message detail |
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and to comment on Vincent/Crono, that's usually attributed to an
overperformance thanks to AC. I'm not going to argue it because we've
been over it a thousand times, but that's usually what I hear. either
way, I don't think it's that much at all, if at all. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/23/2006 9:57:11 PM | message detail |
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Eh, I had FFVI in the finals in the games contest, but I still think it
would lose to SSBM. The difference in the Top 10 list was fairly
convincing, and the gap is extremely small. 2% is by no means
insurmountable. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 9:57:19 PM | message detail |
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AC did **** for Vincent. Hell it wasn't even officially released, and
Lara Croft opened in theaters the weekend before she had her match, and
she plummeted. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 9:57:35 PM | message detail |
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I don't think there was an overperformance either, but there are some who do. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2006 9:58:33 PM | message detail |
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I can buy Vincent and Squall being that high. Vincent was a newcomer
and Squall's potentially been behind SFF for years (perhaps every year
depending on what you believe). But Knuckles and Dante are worrisome. Yeah, I think they both overperformed a tad (Dante and his 1 seed, Knuckles and his bandwagon), but it couldn't have been that much. DMC3 being that big (yet the series itself being that weak)? Knux's boost being *that* much. Magus so far above Tidus? That stuff is troublesome. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 9:58:47 PM | message detail |
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A 4 spot difference is convincing? And to be honest, I think Final Fantasy VI would get some default "It's Final Fantasy!" votes in a contest setting that it would not get in the Top 10 List format. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| DeepHyren12 | Posted 7/23/2006 9:58:50 PM | message detail |
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I seriously doubt people see the picture, then look straight at the
bubbles and ignore the name next to it. It may confuse some voters, but
I really doubt that they're as stupid as we often like to make them
look. HANGING CHADS OMG! --- "Civil government is in reality instituted for the defense of the rich against the poor" --Adam Smith |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 9:59:33 PM | message detail |
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HANGING CHADS OMG! Crazy old people aren't voting on GameFAQ's. And tranny doesn't count ! ! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| transience | Posted 7/23/2006 9:59:46 PM | message detail |
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AC did **** for Vincent. Hell it wasn't even officially released,
and Lara Croft opened in theaters the weekend before she had her match,
and she plummeted. it's different though.. Tomb Raider fans (do they exist?) didn't come to GF afterwards. FF7 most definitely did and you could tell by the way FF7 shot up the FAQs list. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 10:00:24 PM | message detail |
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Magus so far above Tidus? What's wrong with the idea of Magus getting 53% on Tidus? It's not THAT far above him. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 10:02:17 PM | message detail |
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There's no reason for a movie to bring new fans to the site though, I
seriously doubt that FF7 shooting up the charts was due to new users,
and not previous ones who already loved or at least liked FF7, because
honestly, who else would bother downloading a copy of it at that point
in time? I see no reason for it to bring new FF7 fans to the site. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| transience | Posted 7/23/2006 10:02:31 PM | message detail |
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screw being complete: Zelda/MMX at 01:00 - 12992 FF/mm at 01:00 - 14072 ..whoa. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 10:02:53 PM | message detail |
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Ohhhhh snap! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/23/2006 10:02:58 PM | message detail |
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AC did **** for Vincent. Hell it wasn't even officially released,
and Lara Croft opened in theaters the weekend before she had her match,
and she plummeted. Actually, it was the year after that that she plummeted. She overperfomed by 1% looking at 2k2, or 8% looking at 2k4. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/23/2006 10:03:26 PM | message detail |
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lol top 10 votals in a match ever, more like top 10 votals in July 2006 m i rite? lol ya i am --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/23/2006 10:04:48 PM | message detail |
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At the 1:00 mark, this match has 14072 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time: GTA/Warcraft - 12400 Zelda/MMX - 12992 Castlevania/Kingdom Hearts - 13226 Sonic/SSB - 12580 The Legend of Zelda had 10406 individual votes at this time. Final Fantasy has 10130 individual votes at this time. Heh, Final Fantasy still manages to impress with its vote drawing numbers. On pace to break 100,000 individual votes despite only having 72% of the vote? ...This match would have exactly 140,000 votes if Final Fantasy got exactly 100,000 individual votes and had 71.43% of the vote. Insanity. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |