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| gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/22/2006 10:14:49 PM | message detail |
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Ah, I forgot about that. Ya, I definitely wouldn't expect Leon to loan an alt again. Hmm... why am I wasting the precious few posts I have left? DURR DE DUURM. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| _Seer_ | Posted 7/22/2006 10:15:07 PM | message detail |
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What I've learned from this: If one of your series' games can take out an entire series of games, well.. --- DEFENCE, DEFENCE Seeraamaazu |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/22/2006 10:15:26 PM | message detail |
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I believe he meant when he lost his account to Red. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| creativename | Posted 7/22/2006 10:15:45 PM | message detail |
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If you don't realize that weaker entries tend to get SFFed more (ceteris paribus), I don't know what to tell you. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 10:17:33 PM | message detail |
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KH has it right. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/22/2006 10:17:50 PM | message detail |
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lol paribus There are times I honestly feel stupid as hell when discussing things with guys like KH and creative. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 10:18:29 PM | message detail |
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SFFed more often or SFFed more? As I recall, the worst case of SFF we've ever had was with a near-elite. Zelda is already so far above Metroid that it'll be that much harder to increase the percentage from what it would have legitimately been. It'll be a bigger blowout, sure, but I don't buy more SFF. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 10:21:37 PM | message detail |
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I guess it depends on your definition of "more SFF," I suppose.
Zelda/Metroid will be ugly. I think Super Smash Brothers will do
decently well for itself (I thought it would do so if it won before
this match, mind you). --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transience | Posted 7/22/2006 10:22:10 PM | message detail |
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what KH means is that a really strong entrant is not going to SFF
something as bad as a weaker one percentage-wise. take Link/Samus, for
example. Link is already so strong that the SFF is not as noticable.
same with Cloud and Vyse as opposed to Tifa and Vyse. when you get a
weaker character like Mario, the SFF becomes a lot more obvious. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/22/2006 10:26:32 PM | message detail |
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I don't see why SSB vs. Metroid was even brought up. It's pretty clear that SSB would win there. Metroid vs. Sonic, however, is a very interesting match. Could Sonic make up all the difference between Samus and Sonic the character? It's possible, but I think the match would be close. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 10:27:29 PM | message detail |
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Considering Samus is bigger than Metroid, I think Sonic would win. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transience | Posted 7/22/2006 10:28:32 PM | message detail |
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considering Sonic is bigger than ...Sonic, I think Metroid would win! --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 10:29:31 PM | message detail |
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I don't really think Sonic is bigger than his games, at least not
moreso than Samus compared to Metroid. He's closer to Samus than he was
in 2004 anyway. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transience | Posted 7/22/2006 10:32:24 PM | message detail |
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eh, Samus won before Metroid Prime was even released and then won by a lot. I dunno who I"d pick, but it's debatable. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 10:33:01 PM | message detail |
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I've always thought of Metroid being one of the weaker old series for
some ungodly reason. Its games have continually failed to impress, and
Samus' real edge is her presence in SSBM (and honestly, Sonic's closer
now than he was in 2k4). I would take Mega Man and Sonic over Metroid
without thinking, and I would consider Castlevania over it too. Heck,
I'm having a hard time seeing Pokemon > Halo, so I probably would
take it there.... --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 10:34:08 PM | message detail |
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Metroid doesn't have SSB to help it out, much like Earthbound doesn't
get it. We all know what happened to Earthbound. Sonic > Metroid
seems just as easy as Samus > Sonic, honestly. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| transience | Posted 7/22/2006 10:36:49 PM | message detail |
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yeah, you and I differ greatly on Metroid. to me, Castlevania is its
floor. Sonic could definitely beat Metroid, but I don't think any Sonic
game could get 45% on Wind Waker and I'd probably take SM over Sonic 2.
eh, it's debatable. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/22/2006 10:37:35 PM | message detail |
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That could be true, seeing as how Samus doesn't have many games, and
she took eight full years off between 1994 and 2002. Doesn't seem like
that potent a series, especially considering her own strength and the
fact that it carries the Nintendo banner. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/22/2006 10:42:54 PM | message detail |
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This is sort of from a page or two ago, but talk was going on about
Smash Brothers and Melee. Melee is the favored of the two, and that's
largely due to that it did everything Smash did, and did it with better
graphics, faster gameplay, and more characters. I feel like when
everyone unanimously admits melee is their favorite of the two that
you'd think it implies smash bros wasn't amazing in its own right.
Melee stands out more because it doesn't have an Ocarina of Time, or a
Super Mario 64, or a Star Fox, Mario Kart, Banjo-Kazooie, Diddy Kong,
etc, to share the light with. In terms of contest strength, I wouldn't expect Melee to do much worse on its own, or for Smash Bros to do radically worse than Melee. --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| transience | Posted 7/22/2006 10:45:25 PM | message detail |
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if Samus was just a playable character in SSB, she wouldn't be any
stronger than Ness. you don't get 40% on BL by just being in SSB.
Metroid isn't that weak. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/22/2006 10:50:59 PM | message detail |
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I want to see SSBM face any other big-name Nintendo classic right now
in a Game Contest setting...preferably one outside of the 128-Division.
We know SSBM would beat LoZ:WW or MP (though it's surprising SSBM never
got to face either of them), though I wonder how it would do
percentage-wise against certain opponents... Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow Super Mario 64 Super Metroid LoZ ...those came to mind when I tried to think of games from different Nintendo series. I hardly think there's doubt in SSBM winning those matches, but the percentages man...just a late-night thought; I just wonder how well SSBM would fare in those matches against other series well-liked by the fanbase. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 10:51:06 PM | message detail |
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if Samus was just a playable character in SSB, she wouldn't be any
stronger than Ness. you don't get 40% on BL by just being in SSB.
Metroid isn't that weak. Now you sound like me and DMC (and if Dante was in SSB, how strong do you think he'd be?). While I still refuse to even consider DMC on par with DQ, it's certainly lower than one might think. The same likely applies to Metroid. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 10:52:28 PM | message detail |
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I would *strongly* consider Mario 64 and LoZ over SSBM. Bad examples. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| transience | Posted 7/22/2006 10:52:29 PM | message detail |
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well, let me ask - Sonic in SSBB. do you take him over Samus? --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 10:54:12 PM | message detail |
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Yes. Absolutely. SSB is huge for anything. Ness would be bottom of the barrel without it. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/22/2006 10:54:38 PM | message detail |
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I would *strongly* consider Mario 64 and LoZ over SSBM. Bad examples. The original Legend of Zelda? No. Mario 64 a definite maybe. --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 10:54:57 PM | message detail |
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Well...I don't take Snake over him now, heh. I think SSBB helps Snake
more than it would help Sonic because the overlap is already lower. SSB
helps Samus because it introduced her to an entire generation that
never knew her. That was the only time she was ever seen on the N64. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transience | Posted 7/22/2006 10:55:11 PM | message detail |
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well, I'd say going from 10-20% is a lot easier than going from 35-40%. I dunno, I'd say it'd be a tossup. I'm tired of arguing about Metroid anyway! --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 10:55:35 PM | message detail |
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I'm thinking LoZ is stronger than Wind Waker at this point, and if it
got hit with *any* SFF against Mario 3 it's a contender against SSBM.
Not that I would take it, but I would STRONGLY consider it. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 10:56:45 PM | message detail |
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Maybe we can argue about how bad Xenogears' graphics are! And how it's still managing to break my public computer! --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/22/2006 10:56:54 PM | message detail |
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well, let me ask - Sonic in SSBB. do you take him over Samus? Yes. I also think Snake's inclusion in Brawl will solidify him as a Noble Niner for life and will do much, much more for him than Metal Gear Solid 4, although I'm sure most others would agree. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 10:57:23 PM | message detail |
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Mario 64/SSBM is a tough one. If SMB absolutely crushes
SSB next round (80% or better), then I'd probably take Mario 64. If SSB
holds its own (like, say, 25% or thereabouts), then I'd probably take
Melee. Anywhere in between...toss up. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| The Real Truth | Posted 7/22/2006 10:57:49 PM | message detail |
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Wow, I didn't even consider the possibility of Dante being in SSBB, that would be so ridiculously awesome. --- Kingdom Hearts killed my bracket. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 10:57:59 PM | message detail |
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Well, SSB is forever, basically. Snake may not survive MGS4, but he'll
probably live on in video game iconia battling it out with Nintendo's
finest. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 10:59:05 PM | message detail |
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I don't know about much more than MGS4, but I could
certainly see Brawl doing more overall for Snake. MGS4 will be huge for
Snake because it'll be the first time in nearly a decade he'll be THE
main character of a MGS game. Plus, with the possibility of him dying (especially if he gets a legendary death), I think that would do a lot for Snake, too. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/22/2006 11:00:15 PM | message detail |
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KH, how much SFF do you think there is in this match, and how do you
think DMC would do on DQ? If SSB and Sonic are equal, DMC get 58.7%,
FYI. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| transience | Posted 7/22/2006 11:00:56 PM | message detail |
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I love Xenogears' graphics! can understand why others wouldn't though. and what the hell kind of public computer are you on anyway? 2am, emulating PS1 games, here for hours at a time...?! --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/22/2006 11:01:13 PM | message detail |
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I'd feel good taking SSBM to win all of those matches, but I would
still think LoZ and especially SM64 would do good for themselves. Just
not enough to win..... --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 11:02:18 PM | message detail |
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At the 2:00 mark, this match has 20880 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time: SSB/DQ - 19557 Zelda/MMX - 20981 Castlevania/Kingdom Hearts - 21163 Mario/Warcraft - 20268 Doing pretty well so far. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 11:03:20 PM | message detail |
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I love Xenogears' graphics! can understand why others wouldn't though. and what the hell kind of public computer are you on anyway? 2am, emulating PS1 games, here for hours at a time...?! You have no idea. Well, technically it's my school account on numerous public computers throughout the day. Don't worry though, I don't vote more than once! --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 11:05:42 PM | message detail |
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KH, how much SFF do you think there is in this match, and how do you
think DMC would do on DQ? If SSB and Sonic are equal, DMC get 58.7%,
FYI. I *really* can't see DMC getting less than 55%. Heck, maybe Sonic and SSB are equal and SFF is the only thing that separates them (not that I would ever believe that). But this raises all kinds of red flags for me, much like Soul Calibur = Silent Hill does. Sonic's cutting the percentage though, so that's less worrisome. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| transience | Posted 7/22/2006 11:06:37 PM | message detail |
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clearly Sonic/DMC SFF! Knuckles would own Dante's face off with 65%! --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 11:07:04 PM | message detail |
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Of course, this was when Dragon Quest majorly cut the percentage against SSB, too. Doesn't seem to have a good night vote. Sonic was leaking percentage against DMC pretty badly at the same time, too. I guess it's actually got a slightly better one. It'll be interesting to see who gets the day vote. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/22/2006 11:07:05 PM | message detail |
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SM64/SSBM would be one hell of a debated match. In the end, I might have to side with Melee simply because it is the strongest Nintendo game since Ocarina of Time. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 11:07:40 PM | message detail |
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Knuckles would own Dante's face off with 65%! In an ideal world. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 11:08:49 PM | message detail |
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clearly Sonic/DMC SFF! Knuckles would own Dante's face off with 65%! More liek Sonic rSFFed Dante in 2k4 when Dante was *clearly* stronger! --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Cecil XIX | Posted 7/23/2006 12:04:47 AM | message detail |
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If you had told me at the beginning of the contest that I'd be weeping
with steve right now I would have laughed at you for two reasons. And yet those reasons are gone... --- Wow, an intelligent criticism of Zeta. Never thought I'd see the day. - AmuroNT1 |
| Gooper Blooper | Posted 7/23/2006 2:33:59 AM | message detail |
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*cranks up Giga Bowser's theme* I love both these series. I voted for Sonic since it's so far behind. --- Back in my day, video games had one degree of movement, uphill, through the snow, both ways, and we liked it. - CJayC |
| _SmurfX_ | Posted 7/23/2006 2:38:52 AM | message detail |
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Sonic is winning some updates now. He really needs to get his ass in gear, not quite out of range yet. --- Smurf. The cream of SONIC Fanboyism. |
| xp1337 | Posted 7/23/2006 2:48:53 AM | message detail |
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Aside from the one -12 earlier, Sonic hasn't really won any updates.
Although, right now he's stalling SSB rather well, however, if Sonic
could even possibly comeback, it doesn't have the time to stall SSB. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SpC2k6 (23/26) Sonic v SSB |