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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 10:41:36 PM | message detail
Well, other than Metal Gear, Mega Man/RE/SF are the only series that stand much of a chance.

And I'd only seriously consider Mega Man.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 7/21/2006 10:41:47 PM | message detail
Sonic will get some form of SFF if it faces Mario, so stat-wise it's looking like Metal Gear will take it (unless MM surprises in a few days).
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creativename | Posted 7/21/2006 10:43:05 PM | message detail
I might well take SSB over Metal Gear in a direct match (especially with a crappy sprite for Metal Gear and a loaded pic for SSB...)

But Harrich is right, due to highly probable SFF it won't be #4.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/21/2006 10:44:39 PM | message detail
I don't buy SMB SFF'ing Sonic, at least no more than SMB SFF'ing any other series.
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creativename | Posted 7/21/2006 10:44:42 PM | message detail
Also I fully expect Zelda to at least double Metal Gear. And I think there's a decent shot of Metal Gear not breaking 30% in extrapolation relative to Final Fantasy.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/21/2006 10:45:05 PM | message detail
Agreed.

Do people still think that SMB can't break 40% on FF?

I always figured Mario would break 40% without TOO much trouble, but I can't wait to see what the board says in two days. Seriously, it seems impossible to overrate the Big Three at this point. I can just imagine predicting 90% for Final Fantasy and slamming my head through the monitor as it finishes with 92%.
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transience | Posted 7/21/2006 10:45:37 PM | message detail
Mega Man has a good chance. I get the feeling that going up against the (likely) champion is the best way to go for x-stats. I suppose RE has a chance too, but it'll have to rely heavily on RE4.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 10:46:06 PM | message detail
Well, after SMW/Sonic 2, I can't imagine SMB not overperforming a little.
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creativename | Posted 7/21/2006 10:46:07 PM | message detail
I didn't even think about SMB SFFing Sonic. I definitely think that's a possibility. Way more than it SFFing a random series.

But my confidence in SSB>Sonic is high now, so I don't think we'll be able to ever verify that.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 7/21/2006 10:46:23 PM | message detail
...dammit, where are the newer topics? I want to check something WAAAAAAAAH
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2006 10:46:47 PM | message detail
Shut up, Diablo!
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creativename | Posted 7/21/2006 10:47:30 PM | message detail
On thinking about it, since I think Mega Man could push 30% against Final Fantasy, I suppose the people saying it has a real good shot at #4 are right.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 7/21/2006 10:48:02 PM | message detail
>_>

<_<

...DIABLO PWNS
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/21/2006 10:48:07 PM | message detail
Bah to SMW/S2 SFF, man -- I ain't goin' to start that one again.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/21/2006 10:48:14 PM | message detail
I think Mega Man is going to get tripled by Final Fantasy.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 10:48:34 PM | message detail
Yeah, no need to journey to WRONGSVILLE again, am I right?

...Something like that.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/21/2006 10:49:15 PM | message detail
...30% from Mega Man?

Well, here's to hoping, but I cannot see that happen.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 10:49:46 PM | message detail
I'm wagering on closer to 20% for Mega Man, personally.
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transience | Posted 7/21/2006 10:50:38 PM | message detail
I'll say... 76-24. maybe a little bit higher. I don't think it outperforms Zelda, thas for sure.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 7/21/2006 10:50:46 PM | message detail
I would have considered Mega Man with 30% before the Diablo debacle. Now I'll be surprised - nay, amazed - if it avoids the tripling. Final Fantasy had an impressive first round there, and it's set itself up for high standards.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 10:52:28 PM | message detail
If Final Fantasy outdoes Zelda HERE...I really don't see how anyone can say Zelda still has a chance to win.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 10:56:35 PM | message detail
only that IE tends to account for around 60% of the site's traffic overall.

LOL Firefox
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/21/2006 10:57:50 PM | message detail
That's a shame...so many people using that...that...

garbage

It was IE's fault KH won!
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creativename | Posted 7/21/2006 11:01:51 PM | message detail
We should be beyond amazed if Final Fantasy gets 80% on Mega Man. I really don't see how that could happen.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/21/2006 11:02:33 PM | message detail
If Final Fantasy gets 80% on Mega Man, then it winning the contest is a lock.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 7/21/2006 11:20:33 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
22-----323-----38.3900929
21-----1767----36.9552915
20-----4499----34.1631474
19-----6663----29.1310221
18-----7799----27.4009488
17-----7502----27.7659291
16-----6206----27.2639381
15-----4162----29.3849111
14-----2726----31.6214233
13-----1830----33.0054645
12-----1180----35.5932203
11-----645-----36.7441860
10-----358-----40.5027933
9------206-----37.8640777
8------103-----36.8932039
7------71------40.8450704
6------24------16.6666667
5------14------7.1428571
4------13------15.3846154
3------38------2.6315789

Overall prediction percentage: 29.9%
Everybody with a score of 2 or less got the match wrong.

What a mess this match is. Top performers were the people with a score of 7. Too high to be a serious zero bracket, too low to be a series prize bracket. The perfects still do realtively well when compared to everyone else.

27 people fell off the Top 50 today. 46% prediction percentage is pretty darn good. Xuxon, punk030, tttiiimmmmmmyyy, MattMan0, chadmille20, L4zythe2nd, Dohnuts17, rorshacma, dyme969, JSNowitzki, kubevubin, zombielynx21, Champ78, Blackbelt5610, goku9456, Pigglypoo, TruePhoenix1984, SixShotSymphony, lordyshadow, Logik_Zer0, The_Wall_PG, BionicLT, Dark_Knightmare, Revenant27, mostcorrupt, crynyd and mbeverage took Castlevania over Kingdom Hearts and have fallen.
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Xuxon | Posted 7/21/2006 11:22:03 PM | message detail
How hilarious would it be if Mega Man was tripled and it was still the fourth strongest? I could actually see that happening.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 11:24:13 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be shocked. After Final Fantasy mauled Diablo, this is pretty much what I've come to expect.
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transience | Posted 7/21/2006 11:26:49 PM | message detail
TRE's breakdown makes the predictions today look even worse. how many round 2 matches have had that low of a prediction percentage?

*checks Villains contest*

man, more people had Diablo winning its fourpack than Kingdom Hearts. weird.
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greatone10 | Posted 7/21/2006 11:28:15 PM | message detail
I would wager that the gap between the 3rd and 4th strongest series will make the Villians bracket look balanced.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 11:29:56 PM | message detail
Well, the thing is that this bracket may actually look balanced...once you get past the top 3.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 11:36:41 PM | message detail
Hmmm...SMB is starting to leak percentage.
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yoshifan823 | Posted 7/21/2006 11:39:48 PM | message detail
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 11:43:03 PM | message detail
Also, I'm kinda wondering why CJayC decided to change the picture theme in the middle of the round.
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transience | Posted 7/21/2006 11:49:28 PM | message detail
I feel like making a random lowest prediction percentage list that I'm sure exists elsewhere. 30% and below:

2k3 final - Cloud > Sephiroth - 6.03%
Spring 2004 Round 4 - SSBM > Starcraft - 7.16%
Spring 2004 Round 3 - Starcraft > Wind Waker - 7.91%
2k5 round 3 - Vincent > Squall - 12.47%
2k2 final - Link > Mario - 12.80%
2k3 semifinal - Cloud > Link - 13.37%
Spring 2005 round 3 - Diablo > Kefka - 14.76%
2k3 Round 4 - Mega Man > Snake - 14.53%
2k2 Round 4 - Crono > Snake, 14.60
Spring 2004 Round 2 - Starcraft > Kingdom Hearts, 15.62%
2k2 Round 3 - Scorpion > Pac-Man, 17.30%
2k4 Round 2 - Frog > Master Chief, 22.56%
2k5 semifinal - Crono > Mega Man, 24.49%
2k5 round 2 - Vincent > Dante, 25.14%
2k5 final - Mario > Crono, 26.17%
2k2 Round 2 - Alucard > Duke Nukem, 28.90%
Series round 2 - Kingdom Hearts > Castlevania, 29.90%

kinda surprising how few there are, all told. I also like how Frog > MC is the single most unpredictable result in 2k4 by far.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/21/2006 11:51:40 PM | message detail
I thought Starcraft > Halo had less than 30% of the brackets.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 11:51:45 PM | message detail
Holy crap, Mega Man > Solid Snake and Zero > Vercetti are the next most "unexpected" results of SC2K4?

Heh, Vivi/DK is 4th despite being a first round match, and Link/Cloud is 5th despite being the finals.
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TheRye | Posted 7/21/2006 11:52:17 PM | message detail
I really think that the FF and Mega Man fanbases are different enough that Mega Man can pull off 35% or so.
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transience | Posted 7/21/2006 11:52:57 PM | message detail
woops, skipped it by accident. 24.09%.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2006 11:54:48 PM | message detail
No freaking way Mega Man avoids the doubling against Final Fantasy. No way. I'll eat my -- wait, wait, this is getting too familiar.

40% for Mega Man
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2006 11:55:52 PM | message detail
I am also starting Xenogears now and can't get the sound to work. I'm even more confused than I probably should be!
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transience | Posted 7/21/2006 11:56:38 PM | message detail
Xenogears music is the best in video games! stop your crazy emulating this instant!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2006 11:57:55 PM | message detail
I'll just acquire the OST later!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/21/2006 11:58:51 PM | message detail
To celebrate Castlevania's run, I shall soon be in possession of Symphony of the Night!

And it'll be my first Castlevania game, too!
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/22/2006 12:00:14 AM | message detail
1. Aluc- wait, wrong guy.
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transience | Posted 7/22/2006 12:01:44 AM | message detail
I should replay SOTN sometime.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/22/2006 12:01:55 AM | message detail
Speaking of Alucard...we're all aware that whoever beats CV/Alucard ends up meeting a gruesome fate in the next round (Sephiroth aside, but the Plan was for him to look good enough to beat Cloud and burn bracketmakers in 2k4).

80% for Metal Gear.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/22/2006 12:02:08 AM | message detail
Hmmm...I wonder if SMB will maintain the quadrupling at this rate. Well, it should get the day vote.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/22/2006 12:03:53 AM | message detail
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet (Only read up the page 5 of 8), but the perfects are seemingly getting whittled down to the more knowledgable. We've been seeing around 20/50 picking LoZ for the victory, know we've rocketed up to 30/50 picking FF for the victory.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/22/2006 12:04:13 AM | message detail
I'm going to spell the word "knowledgeable" wrong until the day I die.

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