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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2006 3:51:28 PM | message detail
Looks like tranny's speedrun ruined his vision!
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trannyscience | Posted 7/21/2006 3:52:11 PM | message detail
doesn't look like ZM.. Samus just looks too big. eh, could be, who knows.
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Lopen | Posted 7/21/2006 3:52:40 PM | message detail
The only one I'd say I was remotely arrogant about was GTA > WC. And I do think that most of the people who picked WC did pick it for the wrong reasons. Rallying was responsible for the win, but WC was already fairly popular here without it. Not that many votes were rallied.

Yes, I called 60% for Castlevania, but there's more to being arrogant than calling for high %s. (And in Halo > CV I even said "CV could very well win this... it scares me more than KH does", or something like that)

We're victims of "group think", clearly! I was supposed to be the nonconformist here!
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Raiden is still [!!] nominations short!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244
Mister Mario | Posted 7/21/2006 3:57:17 PM | message detail
Mos Def Warcraft II. The Zepellin certainly is, and God knows Warcraft I didn't look like that. They're just darker than what they're like in the actual game.
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15th overall in the "Summer 2005 Character Contest" (Score 204).
XxSoulxX | Posted 7/21/2006 3:58:46 PM | message detail
All the pics look great. I'm loving the Mario/WC picture just because Mario is about to kick ass.

Of course, how can you hate the Sonic/SSB picture. Probably the best picture I've ever seen CJayC make.

The FF/MM picture is great, just on the wrong sides. How will that play out?
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cyko | Posted 7/21/2006 3:59:15 PM | message detail
i wanted to say something before i went to work about how Kingdom Hearts wasn't done yet at 7:00 A.M. when it was down by about 1000. unfortunately the site was momentarily down for maintenance.

now, i get home from work and see that KH is up by 2200. awesome. i can definitely see Castlevania erasing 1000 votes off of KH's lead from this point. but not 2200. Kindgom Hearts wins after all!!! here's to all of us who didn't give up hope!! ^_^

so, i have three questions, then:

1) at exactly what time did Slowflake call the match in favor of Castlevania? was it right around the 9:00 A.M. hour?

2) how the heck did Halo not steal the day vote from Castlevania as much as Kingdom Hearts? does this mean that after Ansem vs. CATS, Alucard vs. Sora, and Castlevania vs. KH; Kingdom Hearts is the new day vote champion?

3) did Karma Hunter eat that Metal Gear disc yet? i want to see at least one KH devour MGS, since Kingdom Hearts ain't gonna do it!!

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SuperiorSnake | Posted 7/21/2006 3:59:45 PM | message detail
Probably the best picture I've ever seen CJayC make.

It's not as awesome as Solid Snake v. Sora, but it's easily one of his best.

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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 7/21/2006 4:05:17 PM | message detail
Its not that great because its biased towards SSB.

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cyko | Posted 7/21/2006 4:08:09 PM | message detail
ooh, new pics!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse21.jpg

um....... what is Mario about to knock over with his shell? weird..........

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse22.jpg

Link, Mario, Samus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sonic, Knux, Tails

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse23.jpg

now, THAT is a sweet match pic. if it had Black Mage instead of Red Wizard, it would have been PERFECTION!!!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2006 4:08:32 PM | message detail
You can get updated on all your KH eating MGS needs, in this topic!:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29362202

And remember to help bump it!
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trannyscience | Posted 7/21/2006 4:09:16 PM | message detail
don't mess with the R.Wiz!

Slow never called it for CV I don't think. and I'm positive that CV won't be cutting 1000 votes off this lead. it might not even cut off 100.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/21/2006 4:09:38 PM | message detail
Wait, Slow actually called the match? Someone needs to put duct tape over that guy's mouth whenever a close match comes around.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2006 4:10:07 PM | message detail
But he'll still be able to type!
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LordOfDabu | Posted 7/21/2006 4:10:33 PM | message detail
Warcraft II grunts: http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen007yz7.jpg

The ones in the picture may be the Dark Saga version, but they are definitely Warcraft II.

I tried to grab a screenshot from the first Warcraft so people could see what they looked like, but I can't seem to take them in DOS for some reason.
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The GameFAQs StarCraft Tournament of Champions 2006 Bracket:
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2006 4:12:00 PM | message detail
Every time I see DOS I just burst out laughing...and I don't know why. =(
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ccbfan | Posted 7/21/2006 4:15:37 PM | message detail
Wow that SSB vs Sonic pic is a little too much.

I mean Samus, Mario and Link! Huge match pic advantage fo SSB. Makes me fell much better about my pick.
Who Cares? | Posted 7/21/2006 4:25:28 PM | message detail
Nice set of pics, Warcraft's side really being the only one that ain't all that hot. Disappointed not to see SF/RE with the rest of the group. Wonder if maybe he's still looking those 2D sprites of Jill to match the SF crew...
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fightgen/characters2/jill-a.html
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cyko | Posted 7/21/2006 4:30:09 PM | message detail
after looking through the other THREE topics from today (yeesh!!), i don't think Slowflake actually did call the match. but XDDDD!!! at hese two knuckleheads for calling the match in favor of Castlevania IMMEDIATELY after CV hits it's peak lead of 1199 votes and KH begins it's comeback:


MegatokyoEd
Posted 7/21/2006 9:16:11 AM

message detail Yeah this is over... My brackets finally died it seems.

Crimson Dragoon
Posted 7/21/2006 9:16:22 AM

message detail *shrugs*

So much for this being a super predictable contest, eh?
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it looks like the Slowflake curse got passed on to MegatokyoEd and FFDragon.

Tatsumaki Senpuu
Posted 7/21/2006 1:13:03 AM
message detail And this is going to be the best match of the contest, by far!


heh, methinks HM said this partially because he was certain Castlevania would win. but, i do think this has so far been the best match of the contest, by far!!

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trannyscience | Posted 7/21/2006 4:31:13 PM | message detail
probably... it's going to end up being far less close at the end than GTA/WC though.
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FFDragon | Posted 7/21/2006 4:31:45 PM | message detail
If I cursed CV, then good. I got my 2 points back. ~_^
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LordOfDabu | Posted 7/21/2006 4:38:17 PM | message detail
Best I could find on google for the first Warcraft: http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/8606/warcraftay1.jpg

The thing I don't get about these new match pictures is why they broke away from the "hero vs generic enemy" on each side.
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The GameFAQs StarCraft Tournament of Champions 2006 Bracket:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000184&topic=28995048
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2006 4:39:26 PM | message detail
Because generic MG sentry needed his time in the sun? Darn Ceej, original MG fanboy.
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TheFreeshooter | Posted 7/21/2006 4:55:33 PM | message detail
The Red Mage is looking exquisite, as always!!!
Lopen | Posted 7/21/2006 4:57:53 PM | message detail
Red Mage > Red Wizard... though at least they brought the right colored magician along.
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Raiden is still [!!] nominations short!
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/21/2006 4:58:27 PM | message detail
Sonic vs SSB and FF vs Mega Man still look awesome though.
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steve illumina | Posted 7/21/2006 5:32:46 PM | message detail
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TheFreeshooter | Posted 7/21/2006 5:35:51 PM | message detail
Red Mage > Red Wizard... though at least they brought the right colored magician along.

Meh... you know what I meant!
Phediuk | Posted 7/21/2006 6:04:01 PM | message detail
*COMPARISONS GAME- (1) Super Mario Bros. vs. (6) Warcraft*

Sales

Mario=best-selling game franchise ever. kthxbai

Advantage: Super Mario Bros.

Hype

Super Mario Bros.:

NSMB was fairly well-received, and Super Mario Galaxy is one of the most anticipated Wii games of the moment.

Warcraft:

WoW always has some people talking about it, though it's already been 4 years since its last main-series game.

Advantage: Super Mario Bros.

Number of Games

Super Mario Bros.:

Main series-

Super Mario Bros. (NES, 1985)
Super Mario Bros. 2 (FDS, 1986)
Super Mario Bros. 2 (NES, 1988)
Super Mario Land (GB, 1989)
Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES, 1990)
Super Mario World (SNES, 1991)
Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins (GB, 1992)
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (SNES, 1995)
Super Mario 64 (N64, 1996)
Super Mario Sunshine (GC, 2002)
New Super Mario Bros. (DS, 2006)

Spinoffs/ports-

Donkey Kong (Arcade, 1981)
Donkey Kong Jr. (Arcade, 1982)
Donkey Kong (Colecovision, 1982)
Donkey Kong (Atari 2600, 1982)
Donkey Kong (Intellivision, 1982)
Donkey Kong (Atari 800, 1982)
Donkey Kong 3 (Arcade, 1983)
Donkey Kong (C64, 1983)
Donkey Kong (VIC-20, 1983)
Donkey Kong (ZX Spectrum, 1983)
Donkey Kong (TI-99/4A, 1983)
Donkey Kong Jr. (Atari 2600, 1983)
Donkey Kong Jr. (Colecovision, 1983)
Donkey Kong Jr. (Intellivision, 1983)
Mario Bros. (Arcade, 1983)
Mario Bros. (Atari 2600, 1983)
Mario Bros. (Intellivision, 1983)
Donkey Kong (PC, 1984)
Donkey Kong (MSX, 1984)
Mario Bros. (Atari 5200, 1984)
Mario Bros. (Atari 800, 1984)
Mario Bros. (C64, 1984)
Donkey Kong Jr. Math (NES, 1985)
Golf (NES, 1985)
Mario Bros. (Atari 7800, 1985)
Donkey Kong (NES, 1986)
Golf (FDS, 1986)
Super Mario Bros. (FDS, 1986)
Vs. Super Mario Bros. (Arcade, 1986)
Vs. Wrecking Crew (Arcade, 1986)
Vs. Golf (Arcade, 1986)
All Night Nippon Super Mario Bros. (FDS, 1986)
Super Mario Bros. (PC10, 1986)
Golf (PC10, 1986)
Mario Bros. (PC10, 1986)
Mario Bros. (NES, 1986)
Donkey Kong (Atari 7800, 1987)
Donkey Kong Jr. (Atari 7800, 1987)
Mario Bros. (ZX Spectrum, 1987)
Super Mario Bros. 2 (PC10, 1988)
Donkey Kong Jr. (NES, 1988)
Donkey Kong 3 (NES, 1988)
Golf (GB, 1989)
Donkey Kong Classics (NES, 1989)
Phediuk | Posted 7/21/2006 6:04:15 PM | message detail
Super Mario Bros. 3 (PC10, 1990)
Dr. Mario (NES, 1990)
Dr. Mario (PC10, 1990)
Dr. Mario (GB, 1990)
Vs. Dr. Mario (Arcade, 1990)
NES Open Tournament Golf (NES, 1991)
NES Open Tournament Golf (PC10, 1991)
Mario Teaches Typing (PC, 1991)
Super Mario Bros. & Friends: When I Grow Up (PC, 1991)
Mario is Missing! (PC, 1992)
Yoshi (NES, 1992)
Yoshi (GB, 1992)
Super Mario Kart (SNES, 1992)
Mario Paint (SNES, 1992)
Yoshi's Cookie (GB, 1992)
Mario's Time Machine (PC, 1993)
Super Mario All-Stars (SNES, 1993)
Yoshi's Cookie (SNES, 1993)
Yoshi's Safari (SNES, 1993)
Mario and Wario (SNES, 1993)
Mario is Missing! (SNES, 1993)
Mario's Time Machine (SNES, 1993)
Mario is Missing! (NES, 1993)
Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 (GB, 1994)
Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World (SNES, 1994)
Hotel Mario (CDi, 1994)
Mario's Time Machine (NES, 1994)
Donkey Kong (GB, 1994)
Wario Blast: Featuring Bomberman! (GB, 1994)
Wario's Woods (NES, 1994)
Wario's Woods (SNES, 1994)
Mario Teaches Typing (Windows, 1995)
Virtual Boy Wario Land (VB, 1995)
Mario's Tennis (VB, 1995)
Mario Clash (VB, 1995)
Mario's Picross (GB, 1995)
Super Mario RPG (SNES, 1996)
Tetris Attack (SNES, 1996)
Wario's Woods, Burst of Laughter Version (Satellaview, 1996)
Mario Teaches Typing 2 (PC, 1997)
Mario's FUNdamentals (PC, 1997)
Mario's FUNdamentals (Macintosh, 1997)
BS Super Mario USA (Satellaview, 1997)
Wario's Woods Again (Satellaview, 1997)
Mario Kart 64 (N64, 1997)
Wario Land 2 (GB, 1998)
Yoshi's Story (N64, 1998)
Wrecking Crew '98 (SNES, 1998)
Mario Golf (N64, 1999)
Mario Party (N64, 1999)
Wario Land 2 (GBC, 1999)
Super Mario Bros. Deluxe (GBC, 1999)
Mario Party 2 (N64, 2000)
Mario Tennis (N64, 2000)
Mario Golf (GBC, 2000)
Wario Land 3 (GBC, 2000)
Mario Party 3 (N64, 2001)
Paper Mario (N64, 2001)
Dr. Mario 64 (N64, 2001)
Mario Tennis (GBC, 2001)
Super Mario Advance (GBA, 2001)
Wario Land 4 (GBA, 2001)
Mario Kart: Super Circuit (GBA, 2001)
Luigi's Mansion (GC, 2001)
Mario Party 4 (GC, 2002)
Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2 (GBA, 2002)
Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 (GBA, 2002)
Donkey Kong Jr. (e-Reader, 2002)
Mario Party 5 (GC, 2003)
Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (GBA, 2003)
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (GBA, 2003)
Mario Bros. (e-Reader, 2003)
Donkey Kong (e-Reader, 2003)
Donkey Kong 3 (e-Reader, 2003)
Mario Party-e (e-Reader, 2003)
Golf (e-Reader, 2003)
Wario World (GC, 2003)
Wario Ware, Inc.: Mega Microgame$! (GBA, 2003)
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour (GC, 2003)
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (GC, 2003)
Mario Party 6 (GC, 2004)
Mario Golf: Advance Tour (GBA, 2004)
Mario vs. Donkey Kong (GBA, 2004)
Famicom Mini: Mario Bros. (GBA, 2004)
Famicom Mini: Wrecking Crew (GBA, 2004)
Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. 2 (GBA, 2004)
Classic NES Series: Super Mario Bros. (GBA, 2004)
Classic NES Series: Donkey Kong (GBA, 2004)
Classic NES Series: Dr. Mario (GBA, 2004)
Mario Pinball Land (GBA, 2004)
Wario Ware, Inc.: Mega Party Game$! (GC, 2004)
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (GC, 2004)
Mario Power Tennis (GC, 2004)
Super Mario 64 DS (DS, 2004)
Classic NES Series: Super Mario Bros. 2 (GBA, 2004)
Mario Superstar Baseball (GC, 2005)
Super Mario Strikers (GC, 2005)
Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix (GC, 2005)
Wario Ware: Touched! (DS, 2005)
Mario Party Advance (GBA, 2005)
Wario Ware: Twisted! (GBA, 2005)
Mario Tennis: Power Tour (GBA, 2005)
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (DS, 2005)
Mario Kart: Arcade GP (Arcade, 2005)
Mario Kart DS (DS, 2005)
Yoshi Topsy-Turvy (GBA, 2005)
Yoshi Touch & Go (DS, 2005)
Super Princess Peach (DS, 2006)

Total- 164
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Phediuk | Posted 7/21/2006 6:05:47 PM | message detail
Warcraft:

Main series-

Warcraft: Orcs & Humans (PC, 1994)
Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness (PC, 1995)
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (PC, 2002)

Spinoffs/ports-

Warcraft: Orcs & Humans (Macintosh, 1995)
Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness (Macintosh, 1996)
Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal (PC, 1996)
Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal (Macintosh, 1996)
Warcraft II: Battle.net Edition (PC, 1999)
Warcraft II: Battle.net Edition (Macintosh, 1999)
Warcraft II: The Dark Saga (PSX, 1997)
Warcraft II: The Dark Saga (Saturn, 1997)
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (Macintosh, 2002)
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne (PC, 2003)
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne (Macintosh, 2003)
Warcraft III Battle Chest (PC, 2003)
World of Warcraft (PC, 2004)
World of Warcraft (Macintosh, 2004)

Total- 17

Advantage: Super Mario Bros.

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs:

Super Mario Bros.:

Super Mario Bros.- 16
Super Mario Bros. 2 (Japan)- 4
Super Mario Bros. 2- 13
Super Mario Land- 5
Super Mario Bros. 3- 16
Super Mario World- 15
Super Mario Land 2- 4
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island- 6
Super Mario 64- 30
Super Mario Sunshine- 25
New Super Mario Bros.- 9
Total- 143

Warcraft:

Warcraft: Orcs and Humans- 3
Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness- 8
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos- 34
Total- 45

Advantage: Super Mario Bros.
Phediuk | Posted 7/21/2006 6:07:38 PM | message detail
Average review score/Number of reviews:

Super Mario Bros.:

Super Mario Bros.- 9.14 (44)
Super Mario Bros. 2 (Japan)- 8.67 (3)
Super Mario Bros. 2- 8.42 (45)
Super Mario Land- 6.77 (31)
Super Mario Bros. 3- 9.68 (50)
Super Mario World- 9.32 (47)
Super Mario Land 2- 8.07 (30)
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island- 9.05 (40)
Super Mario 64- 9.05 (58)
Super Mario Sunshine- 8.40 (72)
New Super Mario Bros.- 8.52 (56)
Series average- 8.64 (476)

Warcraft:

Warcraft: Orcs and Humans- 7.30 (10)
Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness- 8.84 (19)
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos- 8.78 (46)
Series average- 8.31 (75)

Advantage: Super Mario Bros./Super Mario Bros.

Board activity:

WoW.

Advantage: Warcraft

Board Odds Project

Match prediction:

Super Mario Bros.- 130
Grand Theft Auto- 1
Warcraft- 1

Hey, Slowflake. I think you missed 2 other troll brackets.

Advantage: Super Mario Bros.

Point value:

Super Mario Bros. 912
Warcraft- 43

D-d-d-daaaaayum, that hurts.

Advantage: Super Mario Bros.

Previous contest representation

Super Mario Bros.:

SC2002-

Mario (6th)
Donkey Kong (46th)

SC2003-

Mario (5th)
Bowser (17th)
Yoshi (23rd)
Donkey Kong (29th)
Luigi (30th)
Wario (33rd)

Sp2004-

Super Mario Bros. 3 (5th)
Super Mario World (16th)
Super Mario RPG (24th)
Super Mario 64 (28th)

SC2004-

Mario (6th)
Donkey Kong (25th)
Bowser (31st)
Yoshi (38th)
Luigi (41st)

Sp2005-

Bowser (3rd)

SC2005-

Mario (4th)
Bowser (9th)
Luigi (20th)
Donkey Kong (22nd)
Yoshi (32nd)

Top 100-

Super Mario Bros. 3 (#5)
Super Mario 64 (#13)
Super Mario Bros. (#22)
Super Mario World (#23)
Super Mario RPG (#26)
Super Mario Kart (#61)
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (#81)

Warcraft:

Top 100-

World of Warcraft (#39)
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (#60)

Advantage: Super Mario Bros.

Intangibles

Mass rallying potential can't stand up to the most recognizable character in video gaming. Sorry.

Advantage: Super Mario Bros.

Conclusion

An ass-kicking in the making. The only interesting thing to see here is just how much effect rallying has on an extremely powerful opponent. As Diablo already showed us, probably not much. 78% for SMB.
SonicRaptor | Posted 7/21/2006 6:48:20 PM | message detail
Aside from the Mario/Warcraft picture, the future pictures are just excellent.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/21/2006 6:53:27 PM | message detail
Hey, why did CJayC reverse the position of MM and FF on the match pic?
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/21/2006 6:54:25 PM | message detail
How bout that tag
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Slowflake | Posted 7/21/2006 6:57:42 PM | message detail
And for the record, I called the match for Kingdom Hearts on the last page of the previous topic. Never for CV.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/21/2006 6:57:52 PM | message detail
Hey, why did CJayC reverse the position of MM and FF on the match pic?

Maybe this means he'll fix it, and when he does, he'll make the right choice in replacing the Red Wizard with the Black Mage.

Otherwise, the latter two are awesome. Especially Sonic/SSB.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/21/2006 6:58:30 PM | message detail
Maybe this means he'll fix it, and when he does, he'll make the right choice in replacing Terra with Kefka.

Fix'd for truth.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/21/2006 7:04:23 PM | message detail
I wouldn't complain about that change, either.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/21/2006 7:05:18 PM | message detail
FF/MM needs flipping and I'm somewhat confused why no SSB pictures are used for SSB's side...but that doesn't take anything away from the pics -- they're fantastic.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/21/2006 7:12:13 PM | message detail
Mushroom Division: Round 2 - Match 21 – (1)Super Mario Bros. vs. (5)WarCraft

Moltar’s Analysis

Super Mario Bros.
Round 1 – 92.21% vs. Madden NFL (7.79%)

Super Mario Bros. absolutely destroys Madden. Over 90% and everything.

WarCraft
Round 1 – 50.44% vs. Grand Theft Auto (49.56%)

In a close match, WarCraft barely edges into Round 2, with a little help from a certain forum.

Well, I certainly wasn’t expecting this. Super Mario Bros. vs. Warcraft in Round 2. Could have sworn GTA was going to have the fortune of facing Mario Bros. in Round 2. Oh well, we are getting the same result anyway. Anyway, time for a dramatic re-creation of Round 1 events.

Mario Bros.: lol crush madden

John Madden: BOOM!

*GTA/Warcraft poll goes up* DUEL!

GTA: Alright, *****, I’m going to whoop some ass now. I activate “Quick Start”, giving me the early lead in the match.

GTA fans: See, GTA is going to win easily. Stupid Warcraft fans. lol thinking that rallying would work

WarCraft: Not so fast, GTA! I summon a Hunter and attack to take the lead. I also lay one card face down.

*Chaos ensues at Board 8*

GTA: I’m coming back, you all can count on me! I attack with Tommy Vercetti’s Hawaiian shirt!

WarCraft: I counter that with the “Overseas Asian Vote”!

*WarCraft builds lead little by little, WarCraft supporters begin to act like jerks*

GTA: No! I’m still in this!

WarCraft: Nuh-uh, because now I active my spell card, “For the Horde!” It brings me an extra 5,000 rally votes.

*WarCraft continues to pull ahead, match called over by many*

WarCraft: And to finish, I’ll active my trap card, “Great Blue!” adding on 10,000 rally votes.

GTA: Damn you!!!

*GTA is sent to the Shadow Realm while WarCraft moves on two Round 2.*

Summary: I feel that on GameFAQs alone, GTA is the stronger game, but because of the successful rallying from the WoW forums (which many thought wouldn’t happen), WarCraft managed to win. I will, however, say that I did underestimate WarCraft’s initial strength. Anyway, let’s see how Round 2 goes!

*Showdown! Super Mario Bros. vs. WarCraft*

WarCraft: Ok people, rally me to victory!

Rallyers: **** that noise. *votes Mario, WarCraft is horribly crushed*

Summary: Rallying won’t work against freakin’ Mario.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Super Mario Bros. will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: SMB: 71% - WarCraft: 29%



Ulti’s Analysis

I doubt that the winner of this match is in any real question. All that matters here is whether or not WoW will rally again, which will affect Warcraft's percentage in the match.

Then again, this isn't being held on a Tuesday like Warcraft's last match. There's also the fact that most of the people in the WoW topics responded to "Vote Warcraft over Mario!" with things along the lines of "It's freaking MARIO!!".

I'd give WoW-- er, Warcraft an honest chance at breaking 40% if this were on a Tuesday. But it's not, plus Warcraft faithfuls know that Warcraft is a blip on the radar compared to the influence of the Mario series.

On a side note, congrats to Warcraft for beating GTA in the first place. 6 million people didn't exactly show up to vote, but that match was over for GTA the second Warcraft proved that the match would be close. Too many votes for Warcraft to draw from to actually lose.

I'm half-hoping Warcraft pulls a miracle just to see the chaos, but I know better.

Prediction: Mario with 63.25%
Master Moltar | Posted 7/21/2006 7:12:51 PM | message detail
Soul’s Analysis

SMB defeated Madden with 92.21%
Warcraft defeated GTA with 50.44%


Two great first round matches, for entirely different reasons here. Will that make it an interesting round 2 match? Highly unlikely, but then again... Warcraft did beat GTA.

Let's start with the king. Mario began this contest by absolutely murdering John Madden. Oh, how much I wish that was true. Anyways, Madden NFL got its ass whooped in what was the biggest blowout of the entire contest. Looks like Madden is despised on this site. That, or Mario is going to destroy everyone in this contest and their mothers! I wish that was true as well.

Warcraft's match was amazing not because of a blowout, but because it was an unexpected win! Well, it was for most of us anyways. I called this match right, but then chickened out with a week left. But enough about that.

Warcraft defeated GTA with a little help from the WoWers and TTF (The Tuesday Factor, yo), but it won't be so lucky against Mario. First off, the servers will not be down when this match takes place, so WoWers won't be bunched in one place. Therefore, rallying will be a lot harder and a lot less successful this time around. Secondly, Mario is no GTA. We know the strength of Mario, while everyone was taking guesses for GTA off of top tens and the top 100 games contest. What we do know about Mario is that it is far and away the third most popular series on this site. So, if you are not named Final Fantasy or Legend of Zelda, you will not defeat Super Mario Bros.

Warcraft is going to lose, but it could put up some interesting numbers here. It all depends on the strength of the rallying last round. If there wasn't much rallying, then Warcraft will perform better then usual. If Warcraft's strength came solely from rallying, then it will look like complete garbage. I'm going to play it safe.

My Prediction: Super Mario Bros. wins with 72.45% of the vote.



Yoblazer’s Analysis

First off, let me start by saying that parts of me are still soar following the GTA/Warcraft match. Man, we laughed at you Warcraft supporters so much, and look what happened. I found it funny how many people casually let the result slide, as if it weren't a shock or something. It was a shock, and most of the board got owned. We suck!

That said, if all that rallying could barely get Warcraft past Grand Theft Auto, it's going to be in for a world of hurt against the most famous video game series of all time. I fully expect this match to not only stamp Mario's series as #3 throughout GameFAQs, but to also show everyone that the discrepancy between the Big Three and the next strongest series is absolutely gigantic. Does everyone remember that one topic on a Starcraft board in which somebody spammed for Kerrigan votes, and half the replies were hilariously in support of Vincent? I expect to see the same thing here. You know why? Because this is Mario, and this is how Mario rolls.

Super Mario Bros.
+ Several games from which to draw popularity
+ Most of those games are pretty damn strong in their own right
+ Most recognized series in gaming history
- Nothing

Warcraft
+ Blizzard rallying. It worked.
- It's not going to matter here

My prediction: Super Mario Bros. defeat Warcraft (79-21)
Master Moltar | Posted 7/21/2006 7:13:15 PM | message detail
Leon’s Analysis

First of all, hats off to all the Warcraft supporters out there. I was way off about GTA/Warcraft, so kudos for the victory. With that out of the way, I’ll say that this match is difficult to predict in terms of percentages. The winner is beyond obvious (even the users at the World of Warcraft forums and CJayC have admitted that), but exactly how badly will Super Mario Brothers beat it?

Both series showed themselves to be monumental vote drawers, so we could potentially see the final tally for this match somewhere in the 130,000 range. I wouldn’t call it all that likely, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Just when we thought what the Legend of Zelda did to Civilization would be hard to top, Super Mario Brothers not only outdoes it, but shatters the records it had set just eight days before. Zelda breaks 100,000 votes? No problem! Try 108,000! Zelda wins by nearly 90,000? Hah! Try winning by nearly 100,000! Those records should at least stand until the end of this particular contest because none of the Big Three will have something they can beat up that badly.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, Warcraft overcame an early deficit against Grand Theft Auto and held on for victory in an all-day slugfest that didn’t go without its fair share of controversy. Thirteen vote stuffers were found, and despite what we were expecting, twelve of them were cheating for Grand Theft Auto, but CJayC made a topic about it saying that it only amounted to 600 votes, so it would not have made the difference between victory and defeat even if they had been counted. Everything seemed to be in Warcraft’s favor that day. The match fell on a Tuesday, meaning that the World of Warcraft servers were down, so rallying on the forums was bound to be more meaningful than any other day. There was even a “Blue” post (the equivalent of a CJayC post on GameFAQs), meaning that the users there were even more likely to view the rallying thread. Warcraft’s attempts appeared to have paid off, as the match ranked as the fourth highest of all-time.

The main thing that determines just how high Super Mario Brothers goes is, oddly enough, Grand Theft Auto. Many people on the boards had high aspirations for GTA before the contest began, thinking it had the potential to be the strongest series behind the Big Three. That obviously turned out not to be the case, but is Warcraft just that strong or did Grand Theft Auto tank? Despite losing, it ended up as the fourth most impressive loser in contest history in terms of individual votes. Odds are that it would have been victorious without rallying, as it only ended up losing by 1116 votes. I figured I’d be able to make a solid guestimation after Final Fantasy/Diablo, but after that utter destruction, I really didn’t know what to do with it. I have no doubt that Warcraft is ahead of Diablo, but by how much? I’m undecided but I’ll give Warcraft some credit and say it doesn’t get completely destroyed like Final Fantasy and the Legend of Zelda have been doing here.

Leonhart’s Prediction: Super Mario Brothers with 73.19%




HM’s Analysis

Super Mario Bros.

Previous Matches :

Super Mario Bros – 92.21% -- 108,723

Madden NFL – 7.79% -- 9,186

Warcraft

Previous Matches :

Grand Theft Auto – 49.56% -- 63,051

Warcraft – 50.44% -- 64,167

Wow. Both of these matches are ridiculously impressive, which is surprising given one of them is an expected blowout. This match is undoubtedly a no-brainer as to who will win – even CJayC gives Warcraft a snowball’s chance at winning – so it just depends on how big of a blowout Super Mario Bros. is capable of dishing out, which should be pretty high in percentage.
Master Moltar | Posted 7/21/2006 7:13:55 PM | message detail
Last round, Super Mario Bros. completely thrashed Madden NFL. It was pretty much to be expected that it would have the blowout of the round, but the real impressive part of the match is the insane vote totals and absolutely monstrous individual vote gain for SMB. The Legend of Zelda set the individual vote record just a few matches ago by barely getting over 100,000 votes, then SMB comes along and smashes that by getting 108,000 votes. That is completely unprecedented and probably will not be surpassed for a long, long time, if ever. That is truly a sign of strength when you can put up those kinds of numbers by yourself. Warcraft stands basically no chance against something that can do that.

In the other match, Warcraft managed to survive Grand Theft Auto and actually pull a win, much to the surprise of the entire Crew. But what was most interesting, and extremely humorous, was the fact that GTA was caught vote stuffing. It was not Warcraft like many had suspected. CJayC made a topic and noted that there were about 13 different people vote stuffing and 12 of those were doing it in favor of Grand Theft Auto. Hilarious stuff. Those 12 people ended up with a total of 600 votes in favor of GTA, which was still nowhere near enough to take the lead away from Warcraft. A rather impressive performance and this could have been a real bracket buster if Warcraft was anywhere else.

Super Mario Bros. is the clear and present winner of this match, and it will not even be close. Super Mario Bros. is undoubtedly the third strongest series on this site, and it may not be too far behind LoZ and FF. This is just another rather boring match for SMB to stroll through before it meets up with its first real challenge against Final Fantasy in the Final Four. Warcraft can rally and try to cheat all it likes; in this match it is just completely outclassed. Even rallying might work against it just because of how universal Mario is. What might be most enjoyable about this match is the fact that we get to see a Blizzard smashed quickly – nothing is more irritating than Blizzard fanboys. The difference in strength between another Blizzard entry and a real powerhouse will be present here. Mario is going to be smashing Orcs like they were Koopa Troopas without shells!!

Aitch Emm’s Bracket : Super Mario Bros.

Aitch Emm’s Prediction : Super Mario Bros. – 74% ; Warcraft – 26%

Aitch Emm’s Vote : Super Mario Bros.



Mnm’s Analysis

Battle Music: Bowser Boss Music (SM64)

I really don't have much to say about this match. It basically will come down to how much rallying Warcraft can get, and whether or not it will even hold up against a series as legendary as Super Mario Bros. I think it will be somewhere in the middle. I really think that Super Mario Bros. is in a class by itself and is easily much closer to LoZ and FF than it is to the rest of the pack. So even if Warcraft is legit and GTA is as strong as I thought it was, SMB would still win pretty handily. But if what I think is true about the gap between the big 3 and the rest of the pack, these x-stats are going to look HORRIBLE. Anyways, Warcraft will have done a good job if it passes 30%. But with the way FF murdered Diablo, I'm wary of how Warcraft will stand up to Mario.

Bracket: Super Mario Bros.

Vote: Super Mario Bros.

Prediction: Super Mario Bros. with 76.5%
Master Moltar | Posted 7/21/2006 7:15:06 PM | message detail
HaRRich’s Analysis

Predicted winner: Super Mario Bros.
Earlier this contest:
---SMB - 92.21% on Madden NFL
---Warcraft - 50.44% on Grand Theft Auto
Top 100 List comparison:
---SMB3 - #5, SM64 - #13, SMB - #22, SMW - #23, SMW2:YI - #82
---WoW - #39, Warcraft 3 - #60
Best Game Ever x-stat comparison:
---SMB3 - 39.9% (8 Division champion), SMW - 34.24%, SM64 - 21.93% (SFF'd by LoZ:OoT, has since had SM64DS released)
---Warcraft - N/A (no rep)

I'll keep this one fairly short. Warcarft may have upset GTA, but -- despite what I said in my GTA/WC analysis -- it's not winning against SMB. Without rallying, GTA should have beat it soundly...but instead, on the best day for rallying possible for Warcraft, it barely beats GTA. Had it won convincingly, sure, I'd be more cautious about this match...but SMB could beat GTA with 55+%, and GTA would probably beat Warcraft if it wasn't held on a Tuesday, even with rallying. SMB/WC will be on a Saturday (which, for what it's worth, probably helped Starcraft against LoZ:WW.....), and I think even the rallied voters will be more likely to vote for SMB than they were for GTA, so the rallied effect for Warcraft should be smaller.

For kicks though, if there are a lot of rallied votes for this match as well, this has potential for an even higher vote-total than GTA/WC.

Super Mario Bros. wins with 60.12%



Lopen’s Analysis

Hey Warcraft. You happy to be here? Well I'm happy you're here, that's for sure. Too bad you're going down right now in a SFF match. "Hark, a fool!", you say? "Super Mario Brothers/Warcraft Same Fanbase Factor, preposterous", you say? Well, I say Super Mario Brothers SFFs all series! Yes, Timmy… all series! How many people haven't played any games in the Super Mario Brothers series, eh? I think they did a poll on GameFAQs and "I've never played a Mario game" got -2%. Yeah, negative percent. Okay, I'm exaggerating, but I'm seriously only off by a few % at most.

This is why X-Stats are gonna be so worthless for this thing, I'm not joking when I say I think that this is gonna be a "SFF match". Look at what Final Fantasy did to Diablo and tell me I'm not right! Why aren't all matches blowouts then? Well, if both series are about as popular as one another, or if one series isn't an absolute beast, I don't think it's going to happen as much. However, with the big three especially… Zelda, Super Mario, and Final Fantasy, I have this feeling we're going to be seeing much bigger wins than expected. (And Sonic! DMC isn't that weak, fools!) Oh, and… blah blah recent series flopping blah blah age blah blah more releases blah blah classic blah.

No one really expects Warcraft to win, anyway, I'm just trying to explain my absurdly high prediction, here. Fear The Nostalgia Factor!

Final Fantasy is so screwed.

Lopen's Prediction: Super Mario Brothers with 80.15%


Comments: Super Mario Bros. wins here. Two say with under 70, one with over 80.
SonicRaptor | Posted 7/21/2006 7:16:36 PM | message detail
CJayC's sticky reminds me of an incident on another forum (the SomethingAwful forums, for those interested). Basically the data administrator (a user named "radium", who makes sure the forums run smoothly) did a poll on what Internet browsers people were using.

One guy was using WebTV, he was banned because, in the words of radium "What the hell?".

Just a funny story, back on topic though.

I'm guessing Warcraft will rally and barely escape a doubling. Anything more will be a surprise to me.
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ccbfan | Posted 7/21/2006 7:19:16 PM | message detail
Anyone else find it strange KH is still gaining. Isn't itssuppose to be night vote again?

I'm starting to think that KH doesn't have as much as an advantage in the day as this match would detail. Halo may still be the king of the day vote.

Someone else mentioned eariler that Europe haven't gotten KH2 yet.

Well isn't the period where Castlevania got most of their lead when most of the US was sleeping while europe was wide awake.

Seem like Europe was really the main thing giving Castlevania that early lead. If KH2 was out in Europe already Castlevania may never of had that lead and KH wins with 53 percent or more.
Slowflake | Posted 7/21/2006 7:20:07 PM | message detail
For whatever reason, sometimes the second night vote never kicks in. Just look at MC/DK.
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/21/2006 7:20:50 PM | message detail
The rallied may easily favor SMB.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/21/2006 7:21:30 PM | message detail
KH is also no slouch with the second night vote (being a Square RPG series and all). It gained all the way until the end of the match against Harvest Moon.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 7/21/2006 7:23:02 PM | message detail
Except the Pacific Coast might be enough to counter balance the European effect. It's only 9:00 PM for them; it's probably the reason why shifts are so subtle now.
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