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| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:53:49 PM | message detail |
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This is why I don't care for Link at all. He isn't deep, but more importantly he lacks character. Yeah, he's a very generic hero. Being a mute isn't what bothers me (I like Crono quite a bit, actually, though most people seem to accuse him of being character-less). It's that he has nothing to distinguish him from anybody else. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:54:48 PM | message detail |
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wow.. if you got that much out of CT's plot, I'd hate to see you play an RPG with actual depth! That's the best laugh I've had on this board in a while. Cheers! --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/19/2006 10:55:07 PM | message detail |
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I think the thing with Link is that, for whatever reason, he seems to
embody more than any other character (except maybe Mario) the "player
as main character of this game" ideal. That's my take on part of why
he's so popular, at least. The big swords don't hurt either, of course. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 10:55:39 PM | message detail |
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yeah I like Crono as well... probably because he looks so good compared
to the other characters which are just so bad. it's tough not to look
good when you're chillin' with Marle and Lucca and Ayla for half the
game. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 10:56:00 PM | message detail |
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Crono at least will do things every once in a while to remind you that
he's not just random d00d with a sword, though I'm still not especially
fond of him. But Link...geez, at least do something, dammit. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:56:06 PM | message detail |
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I dunno about that. I never feel like I'm Link when I play the Legend of Zelda. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/19/2006 10:56:13 PM | message detail |
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(who doesn't like kicking ass with a sword?!). Snake! Blades are beneath him. Just imagine how badass you have to be to have swords below you! He could wield a sword, no doubt, but then no one would survive!!! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/19/2006 10:56:16 PM | message detail |
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wow.. if you got that much out of CT's plot, I'd hate to see you play an RPG with actual depth! What do you mean by that much? That's normal >_> But they already mention that Janus DID have magic power as a kid. He just hid it from everyone(except maybe Schala) for whatever reason. At the least, Melchior knows that Janus has "stronger magical powers than even Schala" --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| NewLib | Posted 7/19/2006 10:56:33 PM | message detail |
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The game with the deepest characters was Knights of the Old Republic. I still think its original has the best video game story and deepest characters. --- Where am I? |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 10:56:50 PM | message detail |
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nah, guys like Link are popular not because of their character (because
there isn't any), but because of their character design. Link has an
appealing design that people really like. and, well, he's got a sword.
gotta have the sword. if Snake had a sword, he'd jump about five points in the extrapolated standings. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:56:54 PM | message detail |
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it's tough not to look good when you're chillin' with Marle and Lucca and Ayla for half the game. Hey, Lucca's not THAT bad. ...Okay, she's not that good either, but I like her theme! --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:57:47 PM | message detail |
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if Snake had a sword, he'd jump about five points in the extrapolated standings. Unfortunately, he has a well-known anti-sword stance. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/19/2006 10:57:47 PM | message detail |
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if Snake had a sword, he'd jump about five points in the extrapolated standings. This is a fact. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/19/2006 10:58:18 PM | message detail |
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And since we couldn't crowd the first page with rankings, why not do it here? Robo > Lucca > Ayla > Frog > Magus >>>> Crono >>>> Lavos > Lavos Spawn > Green Imp >> Schala >> Marle --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 10:58:42 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of the actual match, MG is making modest gains in percentage
now. Looking at MG/SC though, it appears FE will escape the doubling. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:59:44 PM | message detail |
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Hey, don't look now, but Metal Gear's on the rise! But Ed Bellis, it's on! Frog > Crono > Robo > Lucca > Magus > Ayla > Marle --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 10:59:49 PM | message detail |
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escape the doubling? this looks like it'll stay at about this
percentage for the rest of the match.. maybe 1% each way. I doubt FE
brings under 66%. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 11:00:11 PM | message detail |
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Robo always came off as a tame version of HK-47 to me. Needless to say, HK-47 kicks his and every other character in CT's ass. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 11:00:19 PM | message detail |
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uh uh uh uh uh Crono > ...Magus > ... yeah i can't do this --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 11:01:04 PM | message detail |
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Magus > I HATE CT'S CAST --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 11:01:17 PM | message detail |
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To be quite honest, I stop caring after Robo. I don't hate any Chrono Trigger characters (except for Dalton), but a great deal of them inspire apathy. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 11:01:49 PM | message detail |
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Dalton, to his credit, had a minor breaking of the 4th wall that I enjoyed. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 11:02:22 PM | message detail |
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Dalton is damn horrible. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/19/2006 11:02:26 PM | message detail |
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Man, Ayla deserves better than that. At least you didn't put her above Marle. >_> And I want to play KOTOR one day, solely because I've heard such promising things about HK-47. Sounds like an awesome character. nah, guys like Link are popular not because of their character (because there isn't any), but because of their character design. Link has an appealing design that people really like. and, well, he's got a sword. gotta have the sword. I still think there's more to it than that. I feel like Link just... resonates with a lot of people in a way that other characters don't have. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 11:03:21 PM | message detail |
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I dunno, when I play Zelda, I don't feel like Link or anything. then again, I'm not much of a Zelda fan. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 11:04:04 PM | message detail |
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I'm not a big Zelda fan either. ...I really need to get around to beating A Link to the Past here soon. From what I gather, I'm pretty close to the end. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 11:04:08 PM | message detail |
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Don't expect a deep character in HK-47 (though he's actually got some
depth if you want to take the deleted stuff from KOTOR 2 as
canon)...instead, just prepare to be entertained by everything that he
says; at all times. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/19/2006 11:04:55 PM | message detail |
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Hey, nothing wrong with that! Entertaining characters that work well
can often be better than "deep" ones in my book. It all depends on how
they're handled. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| NewLib | Posted 7/19/2006 11:05:16 PM | message detail |
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HK-47 isnt deep, he is just hilirious. But I think Bastilla is a really good example of a deep conflicted character. Even the main character has a lot of depth to him, which is hard when you are trying to allow the player to mold him. --- Where am I? |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 11:05:23 PM | message detail |
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Dalton is damn horrible. I didn't deny *that*. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 11:05:53 PM | message detail |
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I find the end of LTTP to be boring. I usually stop halfway through the dark world. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 11:06:19 PM | message detail |
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Even the main character has a lot of depth to him, which is hard when you are trying to allow the player to mold him. 'Him'? WHAT IF YOU MAKE HIM A 'HER' YOU SEXIST PRIG????? Note: you are not actually a sexist prig. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/19/2006 11:06:30 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and speaking of KOTOR, I love how the page on Ulti's/MMX's site
just casually gives away what is apparently the largest spoiler in the
game without so much as a warning or anything. I didn't even realize it
was supposed to be a spoiler until someone mentioned it as such. -_- --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 11:06:41 PM | message detail |
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Luigi's entertainment value in the Paper Marios and Mario & Luigi
games are part of the reason I love him so much. Granted, I still loved
him before that, but he wouldn't be quite as high on my list without it. I definitely wouldn't care about Bowser (aside from the awesome cartoons) without the RPGs. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/19/2006 11:07:38 PM | message detail |
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The Dark World is actually my favorite part of LTTP, especially the
later dungeons. I just find them more challenging and engaging. Plus I
could listen to the Dark World music for hours on end. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 11:08:06 PM | message detail |
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I've been playing Mario RPG all week... I still don't get why people
like Bowser (or Geno - huh?) I like Bowser better as a dude I get to
drop into lava by hitting an axe. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 11:08:09 PM | message detail |
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I didn't even realize it was supposed to be a spoiler until someone mentioned it as such. -_- Oh, you mean how... Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about without even looking at the page on MMX's site, and I've never played the game. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 11:08:55 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and speaking of KOTOR, I love how the page on Ulti's/MMX's site
just casually gives away what is apparently the largest spoiler in the
game without so much as a warning or anything. I didn't even realize it
was supposed to be a spoiler until someone mentioned it as such. -_- I just checked. It's a spoiler, but not THE spoiler. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 11:09:25 PM | message detail |
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Well, Bowser really shines in the Paper Mario games. That's where I
started liking him quite a bit. In Mario RPG, he's okay. The Hurly
Gloves are awesome though. And Mallow >> Geno, yo! --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/19/2006 11:10:04 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I don't get all the Geno love. He's just another "mysterious
badass" to me, albeit as much of one as you'd be liable to find in a
Mario game. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 11:10:25 PM | message detail |
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yeah, I just got those. I just abused the hell out of the level up
system thanks to getting the star, rocking a bunch of enemies and dying
repeatedly. my hurly gloves are top-notch now! --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 7/19/2006 11:10:30 PM | message detail |
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Who did you guys usually keep in your main party for KOTOR? --- Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 11:10:48 PM | message detail |
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I've been playing Mario RPG all week... I still don't get why people
like Bowser (or Geno - huh?) I like Bowser better as a dude I get to
drop into lava by hitting an axe. Lightning in a bottle! Earthquake in a can! (Comedy value though, for those that actually value his character.) Geno is another one of those characters that people love the design to. He's the closest thing to a 'mysterious badass' the Mario series has, whaddya expect? --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 11:11:59 PM | message detail |
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yeah, I guess people just love those. I like mysterious characters if
there's something hidden/interesting about them.. Geno's got none of that. Magus at least has somewhat of a plot twist in him. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 11:12:54 PM | message detail |
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Geno's not really all that "mysterious" though. He completely reveals
who he is and what his intentions are from the moment you meet him. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 11:13:07 PM | message detail |
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*SMRPG SPOILERS* He's really a celestial being inhabiting the body of a doll! *END SPOILERS LOLZ* --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| NewLib | Posted 7/19/2006 11:13:25 PM | message detail |
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I didnt see a spoiler unless you are talking about HK-47 origins... --- Where am I? |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 11:14:04 PM | message detail |
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Geno's not really all that "mysterious" though. He completely
reveals who he is and what his intentions are from the moment you meet
him. Yeah, Mallow has much more depth (I feel like hitting myself after saying that). Geno has the whole 'badass' schtick down, though. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/19/2006 11:14:43 PM | message detail |
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I didnt see a spoiler unless you are talking about HK-47 origins... I am, although I thought the page also revealed the identity of the protagonist as well. Upon closer inspection, it does not, but I still hear it bandied about elsewhere like it's nothing major. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 11:15:02 PM | message detail |
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I didnt see a spoiler unless you are talking about HK-47 origins... That is the spoiler. And since it sort of encapsulated the entirety of HK-47's sidequests, I'd say it's not trivial. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |