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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 319
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| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/19/2006 10:09:26 PM | message detail |
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From KamikazePotato Posted 7/20/2006 1:05:44 AM #189 Trolls aside, now FE really is close to 32%. ...what trolling? I don't see that post anywhere. ~*ST*~ --- *TRUE RKO King of Board 8* Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), WC3: Frozen Throne |
| NewLib | Posted 7/19/2006 10:10:04 PM | message detail |
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So Fire Emblem has outsold DQ in the US recently. --- Where am I? |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 7/19/2006 10:10:12 PM | message detail |
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He deleted it. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 7/19/2006 10:10:41 PM | message detail |
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Read_Only_Thx Posted 7/19/2006 10:02:09 PM message detail [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] This post. He deleted it. --- Angsty_Lou: Everything has a sexual connotation if you just look long and hard enough. Theo72: U SED LONG AND HARD LOL |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/19/2006 10:11:17 PM | message detail |
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Okay, but how is that trolling at all? I'm confused. ~*ST*~ --- *TRUE RKO King of Board 8* Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), WC3: Frozen Throne |
| LegendarySnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:11:20 PM | message detail |
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Final Fantasy Tactics Advance doubled Fire Emblem. A GBA-exclusive RPG with "Final Fantasy" in the title doubled up a four-month-old GBA-exclusive RPG? SHOCKING! In other words, a big overperformance wouldn't surprise me. By the way, who started all this "Handhelds don't add up to much" stuff? The GBA does very well on "Do you own..." polls, and the DS is getting up there. --- I am the man who makes the impossible possible. I am the man, the legend: Solid Snake! |
| creativename | Posted 7/19/2006 10:11:44 PM | message detail |
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And yet I never did. Then why did you initiate this discussion?? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Lopen | Posted 7/19/2006 10:12:10 PM | message detail |
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My initial instinct was Mega Man > Metal Gear. I wouldn't be too
surprised. Then again, my initial instinct was Halo/GTA coming bloody close to upsetting Metal Gear. Still, right now, Mega Man and Sonic > Metal Gear wouldn't surprise me much. (though that should be obvious considering my bandwagon!) --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Sir Bormun | Posted 7/19/2006 10:12:17 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon is a completely different animal. Pokemon was a CRAZE in the
US. I don't think you could say the same for Fire Emblem 7. Or any
portable game that's been out since. --- Need new sig. |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 7/19/2006 10:13:30 PM | message detail |
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Handheld titles do have a terrible history in the end of the year
polls. It recently improved with Mario Kart DS, but it's pretty tough
to find another decent example. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 7/19/2006 10:14:00 PM | message detail |
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Okay, but how is that trolling at all? I'm confused. False info as fact. Tricking people to rush off and look up the current poll results is trolling. Kind of like when someone posts a topic saying the next pic is up when it isn't. With that said, since he deleted it it was probably just a mistake. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 10:14:01 PM | message detail |
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handheld systems just don't get blockbuster titles, the kind of games
that people absolutely have to have. I doubt a handheld game would
break the top 30 of a proper contest. what's the strongest game,
Pokemon RBY? Metroid Fusion? (am I forgetting something? I guess NSMB
or MKDS, but I'm not sure how to place those quite yet) --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 10:14:17 PM | message detail |
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Then why did you initiate this discussion?? *sigh* --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 7/19/2006 10:14:18 PM | message detail |
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Okay, but how is that trolling at all? I'm confused. It's mild trolling, he did it to rile up the MG supporters. Seeing the reactions of the next three posts, it worked. --- Angsty_Lou: Everything has a sexual connotation if you just look long and hard enough. Theo72: U SED LONG AND HARD LOL |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/19/2006 10:14:21 PM | message detail |
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JULY 2006 TOP FIVE LIST UPDATES Smallest Vote Gaps (by vote total) Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Grand Theft Auto [63051] vs (5) Warcraft [64167] - 1116 Hyrule Semifinal - (3) Pokémon [59428] vs (2) Metroid [65831] - 6403 Snake Round 1 - (3) Castlevania [61076] vs (6) Halo [49930] - 11146 Snake Round 1 - (4) Fire Emblem [57798] vs (5) Silent Hill [43512] - 14286 Ultima Round 1 - (4) Mega Man [62075] vs (5) Mario Kart [44727] - 17348 Smallest Vote Gaps (by percentage) Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Grand Theft Auto [49.56%] vs (5) Warcraft [50.44%] - 0.88% July 2006 - Hyrule Semifinal - (3) Pokémon [47.44%] vs (2) Metroid [52.56%] - 5.12% Snake Round 1 - (3) Castlevania [55.02%] vs (6) Halo [44.98%] - 10.04% Snake Round 1 - (4) Fire Emblem [57.05%] vs (5) Silent Hill [42.95%] - 14.10% Ultima Round 1 - (4) Mega Man [58.12%] vs (5) Mario Kart [41.88%] - 16.24% Most Popular Polls (by vote total) Hyrule Semifinal - (1) The Legend of Zelda [104400] vs (5) Mega Man X [25577] - 129977 Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Grand Theft Auto [63051] vs (5) Warcraft [64167] - 127218 Hyrule Semifinal - (3) Pokémon [59428] vs (2) Metroid [65831] - 125259 Ultima Round 1 - (1) Final Fantasy [107648] vs (8) Diablo [17560] - 125208 Mushroom Round 1 - (2) Super Smash Brothers [90789] vs (7) Dragon Quest [28092] - 118881 Least Impressive Winners (by vote total) Snake Round 1 - (4) Fire Emblem - 57798 Snake Round 1 - (3) Castlevania - 61076 Ultima Round 1 - (4) Mega Man - 62075 Mushroom Round 1 - (5) Warcraft - 64167 Hyrule Semifinal - (2) Metroid - 65831 Most Impressive Losers (by vote total) Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Grand Theft Auto - 63051 Hyrule Semifinal - (3) Pokémon - 59428 Snake Round 1 - (6) Halo - 49930 Ultima Round 1 - (5) Mario Kart - 44727 Snake Round 1 - (5) Silent Hill - 43512 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on percentage of entrants choosing the winner) Snake Round 1 - (3) Castlevania vs (6) Halo - 31.49% Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Grand Theft Auto vs (5) Warcraft - 33.94% Snake Round 1 - (4) Fire Emblem vs (5) Silent Hill - 50.65% Hyrule Semifinal - (3) Pokémon vs (2) Metroid - 57.29% Ultima Round 1 - (4) Mega Man vs (5) Mario Kart - 62.96% ~*ST*~ --- *TRUE RKO King of Board 8* Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 10:16:02 PM | message detail |
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If at the beginning of this contest you had told me Pokemon/Metroid
would have been the second closest match of the contest up to this
point, I would have e-hit you in teh face. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Sir Bormun | Posted 7/19/2006 10:16:38 PM | message detail |
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Agreed with Karma on that one. --- Need new sig. |
| LegendarySnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:17:07 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon > Halo! Hmmm...Pokemon/Metroid is only the second match we've seen decided by less than 10% up to this point. The Villains Contest was doing better than this, and yet I still find the Series Contest to be better. --- I am the man who makes the impossible possible. I am the man, the legend: Solid Snake! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/19/2006 10:17:20 PM | message detail |
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ALL-TIME TOP TEN LIST UPDATES Most Popular Polls (by vote total) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (1) Link [71438] vs (1) Cloud [76199] - 147637 Summer 2003 - South Round 3 - (1) Mario [66571] vs (4) Crono [66434] - 133005 July 2006 - Hyrule Semifinal - (1) The Legend of Zelda [104400] vs (5) Mega Man X [25577] - 129977 Summer 2002 - North Round 4 - (1) Mario [64990] vs (2) Cloud [64713] - 129703 July 2006 - Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Grand Theft Auto [63051] vs (5) Warcraft [64167] - 127218 July 2006 - Hyrule Semifinal - (3) Pokémon [59428] vs (2) Metroid [65831] - 125259 July 2006 - Ultima Round 1 - (1) Final Fantasy [107648] vs (8) Diablo [17560] - 125208 Summer 2003 - Finals - (1) Cloud [64578] vs (2) Sephiroth [59865] - 124443 Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link [64443] vs (1) Cloud [59910] - 124353 Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth [75979] vs (2) Mega Man [48213] - 124192 Most Impressive Losers (by vote total) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (1) Link - 71438 Summer 2003 - South Round 3 - (4) Crono - 66434 Summer 2002 - North Round 4 - (2) Cloud - 64713 July 2006 - Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Grand Theft Auto - 63051 Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Cloud - 59910 Summer 2003 - Finals - (2) Sephiroth - 59865 July 2006 - Hyrule Semifinal - (3) Pokémon - 59428 Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (5) Tidus - 57078 Summer 2005 - Tournament of Champions Semifinal - (2) Cloud - 56724 Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (1) Halo: Combat Evolved - 56258 ~*ST*~ --- *TRUE RKO King of Board 8* Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), WC3: Frozen Throne |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/19/2006 10:17:40 PM | message detail |
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Heh...what if someone told you that Metroid/Pokemon was closer than Halo/Castlevania, but didn't mention the winners? Damn CV must have gotten killed... --- Mustache...and green... |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:18:20 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon = Sephiroth?! --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 10:18:39 PM | message detail |
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there's only about four more matches that have the potential to be
close, too. it's just that this contest isn't all uber-fodder like the
VC was. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 10:19:16 PM | message detail |
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Hmmm...Pokemon/Metroid is only the second match we've seen decided
by less than 10% up to this point. The Villains Contest was doing
better than this, and yet I still find the Series Contest to be better. That's because so little people CARED about the Villains in the first place. Replace M. Bison/Diablo with Street Fighter/Diablo and it's going to draw a lot more interest. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| creativename | Posted 7/19/2006 10:19:29 PM | message detail |
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*sigh* OK...and how am I supposed to respond to this? With a "rolls eyes" or something? Maybe a "whatever"? I don't play those games. Seriously, did any of your posts have any purpose at all? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 7/19/2006 10:19:31 PM | message detail |
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You eat that CD yet Karma Hunter? : D *hasn't been keeping track of what happened with it since the match ended* --- Can't think of a good sig. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:19:33 PM | message detail |
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And yet we've seen a large number of blowouts, too. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 10:20:41 PM | message detail |
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OK...and how am I supposed to respond to this? With a "rolls eyes" or something? Maybe a "whatever"? I don't play those games. Seriously, did any of your posts have any purpose at all? Yes, but I've given up on you divining it. Forget it. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| creativename | Posted 7/19/2006 10:20:55 PM | message detail |
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I'm not a fan of that "Most Impressive Losers" name...I didn't like it
years ago when solar first titled it that and I don't like it now. A
big misnomer. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:21:10 PM | message detail |
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Replace M. Bison/Diablo with Street Fighter/Diablo and it's going to draw a lot more interest. I dunno. I enjoyed Bison/Diablo quite a bit. It was probably my favorite Villains Contest match. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:22:49 PM | message detail |
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But then again, I do seem to be in the minority here in seeming to care
more about characters than I do about games. Knuckles/Magus and
Squall/Luigi got me far more excited than ANYTHING the Games Contest
did, to be quite honest. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/19/2006 10:23:53 PM | message detail |
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I dunno. Path of Radiance was definitely less successful here than
DQ8. And the other two Fire Emblem games were on portable systems,
which doesn't work wonders on GameFAQs. Also, Dragon Quest does have
more than just DQ8 to its name, although the connection to Dragon
Warrior may not have been made. Well, there is still an absurd ownership rating for the Game Boy Advance here at GameFAQs. Fire Emblem has been a popular title on there, too, at least judging by how well it does in activity and FAQ listings. Just by releasing one game here or having someone like Marth or Roy in SSBM, you can create a whole new fanbase for the series in America. The fact that it has totalled nearly a million in sales after three releases here is rather impressive for a totally new RPG series in America. Sure, it is not as big as it was in Japan, but it does not need to be. For the visitors of GameFAQs, the odds of them liking and recognizing a RPG series is increased far more than the average site or average consumer. Fire Emblem is certainly not a beast in strength, as Metal Gear is still pounding it pretty hard here. But there is reason enough to believe Fire Emblem has some honest strength over just Metal Gear weakness. I don't like this idea of everyone immediately thinking this is Metal Gear weakness based on this match. There are too many things here to look at before even thinking about something like Metal Gear weakness. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Lopen | Posted 7/19/2006 10:24:45 PM | message detail |
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I'd typically agree on that. Characters are generally more interesting to me. Though the match I got the most enjoyment out of was Starcraft/Windwaker... I was all like eat it, Zelda. But had Master Chief been the 7 vote victor I'm sure MC/Frog would've taken this spot. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 10:25:39 PM | message detail |
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Oh, characters excite me much more than games, too. It's just that the
Villains Contest made me go, "Who?" way too many times to keep me
interested. In my hierarchy it goes Characters > Games > Series
> Villains, roughly. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:25:45 PM | message detail |
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StarCraft/Wind Waker was probably my favorite Games Contest match as well, just because it beat friggin' Zelda at a time when everyone was talking about an all-Zelda Final Four. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 10:27:00 PM | message detail |
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games are far superior to characters. I'd never play a game for its
characters.. well, 99% of the time at least. I'm still kind of confused
as to why character battles are the standard and not game contests. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| creativename | Posted 7/19/2006 10:27:01 PM | message detail |
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I don't like this idea of everyone immediately thinking this is Metal Gear weakness based on this match. I don't think that's the case. I think people are pretty undecided so far on what this means, if anything. Metal Gear is still the huge favorite to take the division, a couple guys half-seriously rumbling about Castlevania aside. I do think CV would break 40% on MG though. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:27:20 PM | message detail |
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Let's see...Characters I had never heard of before the Villains Contest: None Now, if you want me to give you a list of the Villains whose games I'd never played, the list becomes considerably larger. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/19/2006 10:27:25 PM | message detail |
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How could someone downplay the effects of handhelds when we just saw Pokemon do extremely well on Metroid? I mean, I don't think people are voting for Pokemon because of Pokemon Snap or anything --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:28:33 PM | message detail |
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I'd never play a game for its characters.. well, 99% of the time at least. A stark contrast for me. It's probably got a large part to do with why I love FFVIII when people who play games for different reasons hate it. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/19/2006 10:28:55 PM | message detail |
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I think the rule on handhelds is that they're neglible except for Pokemon. And Tetris, I guess. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:29:14 PM | message detail |
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I don't think people are voting for Pokemon because of Pokemon Snap or anything ...I did. Well, that and Pokemon Blue, but Snap was good fun until you did everything. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| DeepHyren12 | Posted 7/19/2006 10:30:14 PM | message detail |
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Look at it this way. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance doubled Fire
Emblem. (I still shudder to recall that.) You're absolutely right when
you say that most people don't hate FFTA as much as, say, Sir Chris or
I, but this isn't terribly impressive. Certainly not as much as, say,
58% on Mario Kart. FE has gained a lot of strength. It was out for 4 months before the contest, and given the viral nature of sleeper hits like it, I imagine a lot of people played the first GBA game inbetween that match and this one, to say nothing of the people who picked up the GCN and 2nd GBA one. --- "Civil government is in reality instituted for the defense of the rich against the poor" --Adam Smith |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/19/2006 10:30:19 PM | message detail |
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For me, characters aren't that exciting, but maybe that's because I've
never played most of their games. Games just seem to do it for me in a
way that rallying behind fictional characters never could; all I can
seem to think is how poor people's tastes are in the latter
circumstances. >_> --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/19/2006 10:30:37 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon Snap was fantastic for five minutes! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 10:31:19 PM | message detail |
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Meh, this would be conclusive MG weakness in my eyes, except it's
another match where the Metal Gear entry is debateably underperforming
in a sprite round, and I'd wager sprites hurt the name "Metal Gear"
more than "Solid Snake." It's part of the reason why I pushed for the
name "Metal Gear Solid" in the first place. Imagine the games contest where SMB3 went up against MG, only instead it's in the sprite round. I don't see too much change for Metal Gear in percentage. However, put it up against Metal Gear and give it a picture like we saw last round, and you don't think there's a difference? I do. Now voters obviously aren't stupid and are voting on this based on series, but if people can separate the MM and MMX series, why can't they separate MG and MGS? There *were* a couple of MG games before MGS, you know. The Moral: Don't expect me to ever draw conclusions on how MG will perform in the sprite round. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Lopen | Posted 7/19/2006 10:31:39 PM | message detail |
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Well, it's not as if I play games for characters either, (except for
maybe Kirby) but it just seems easier to really rally behind a
character to win than it does a game. "Go, Raiden!" vs "Go, MGS2!" The former is much easier, and it tends to be that way for me most of the time all other things being equal. (ie FF6's rep not being some crap like Terra) --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 10:32:00 PM | message detail |
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it's not so much downplaying the effects.. but how many games can you
name that you'd take over any handheld game? let me go check the list... #28: Pokemon Red - GB #34: Tetris - GB that's it for the top 50. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/19/2006 10:32:53 PM | message detail |
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For what it's worth, I've seen people differentiating between the 2-D and 3-D Metroids and Sonics as well. Yet nobody seems to be doing that for SMB. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| transience | Posted 7/19/2006 10:34:16 PM | message detail |
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and I agree with Bellis.. I can't get worked up at all over characters.
they're just.. I dunno, not important to me. I love Metroid for
example, but I couldn't care less if Samus loses. I find most game characters to be either bland or stupid though, so I guess I'm just elitist like that. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 7/19/2006 10:34:18 PM | message detail |
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Because Super Mario Bros.' place as the lord and savior of all things video games can never be questioned. Ever. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |