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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 318

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/18/2006 11:12:10 PM | message detail
Now if you were to put Xenogears against RBY, then you'd have a toss-up match.
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SuperiorSnake | Posted 7/18/2006 11:13:26 PM | message detail
Indeed. I would probably have to think a bit about RBY, but probably end up going with Xenogears by the smallest of margins.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/18/2006 11:15:47 PM | message detail
A gain of 13 for Pokemon! The comeback is (back) on!
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NewLib | Posted 7/18/2006 11:15:52 PM | message detail
Pokemon won an update again.

COME ON BULBASAUR RALLY.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/18/2006 11:25:40 PM | message detail
and another.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 7/18/2006 11:26:25 PM | message detail
Pokemon's gains keep getting larger and larger! Heh, if it limits Metroid's gain on the next update to 3 or less, it'll win a 15 minute update.
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NewLib | Posted 7/18/2006 11:28:32 PM | message detail
Actually if you think about it, why wouldnt Pokemon take off at night?

Metroid isnt popular anywhere but America.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 7/18/2006 11:30:46 PM | message detail
Well, Samus actually has a pretty good night vote. The only time she lost it last year was against Frog, who is notorious for being really strong right out of the gate and then tanking in percentage for the rest of the match.
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NewLib | Posted 7/18/2006 11:31:07 PM | message detail
Samus != Metroid
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/18/2006 11:32:25 PM | message detail
eh, well, this feels like another GTA/WC except Samus' lead is just larger.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 7/18/2006 11:32:32 PM | message detail
........

Well, duh, but going by your logic, Samus's night vote shouldn't be that good. Matter of fact, it was the day vote that got her slaughtered against Cloud.
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NewLib | Posted 7/18/2006 11:33:21 PM | message detail
Samus popularity springs a lot from SSB:M especially with Japan and Europe.

Metroid doesnt get this advantage.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/18/2006 11:36:45 PM | message detail
Yeah, which is why the Metroid series one of the few in this contest that will be weaker than its lead character. Or at least I'm assuming, it's had to make certain of that, but not without very good reason. The Metroid games were also of relatively little strength.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 7/18/2006 11:36:49 PM | message detail
Well, for what it's worth, in all of Metroid's Games Contest matches, it was higher in percentage during the night than during the day.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/18/2006 11:59:57 PM | message detail
So for series that will end up weaker than their lead characters...Metroid, Kirby, DMC...and potentially Diablo, methinks.

This match just makes me scratch my head at Samus' popularity more and more. Kirby and Dante are one thing -- mainly because they're cool/awesome. But Samus is a hair's breadth away from Master tap dancin' Chief. I'm nearly as puzzled on her strength now as I was on Crono's, before I was hit by the realization that CT was the #3 game here.

Speaking of which, I'm on a replay of CT, and it seems far better now than when I first played it for some reason. Probably in some part because I've learned to ignore the lack of personality in any character aside from Magus and focus on enjoying the game's other qualities.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/19/2006 12:11:29 AM | message detail
Samus popularity springs a lot from SSB:M especially with Japan and Europe.

Metroid doesnt get this advantage.


Is that what makes Master Hand the King of the Night Vote?
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/19/2006 12:12:30 AM | message detail
I think this round has the potential to be the "WTF round" with so many strange things that could happen. With that said, Fact or Fiction!:

FACT or FICTION:
1) Fire Emblem outperforms Soul Calibur on Metal Gear.
2) Kingdom Hearts beats Castlevania...and it isn't close (we're talking 55%+ here).
3) Warcraft manages to escape the doubling from Mario.
4) Sonic upsets SSB...and it isn't close.
5) Final Fantasy fails to triple Mega Man. Zelda > FF bandwagon ensues.
6) Street Fighter upsets Resident Evil.
7) There will be Capcom SFF in SF/RE, meaning the winner will get at least 55% of the vote.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2006 12:15:26 AM | message detail
It'd be more surprising for the people here if CV beat KH with 55%, not the other way around. In fact, people here would be shocked and up in arms if CV managed to outperform Halo on it (and I would never stop laughing).
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/19/2006 12:16:38 AM | message detail
1. Fiction
2. Fiction
3. Fiction
4. Fiction
5. Fiction
6. Fiction
7. Err... Fiction

Don't mean to be an ass... I just honestly think they'll all be fiction. I do think RE will win with 55%+, but I very much doubt there could be any "Capcom SFF."
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The Real Truth | Posted 7/19/2006 12:17:06 AM | message detail
1) Fire Emblem outperforms Soul Calibur on Metal Gear.
Fiction.

2) Kingdom Hearts beats Castlevania...and it isn't close (we're talking 55%+ here).
Fiction, I think Castlevania beats Kingdom Hearts with closer to 57%, I wouldn't call it a fact though because I'm not arrogant like most people calling something a lock when it's not.

3) Warcraft manages to escape the doubling from Mario.
Fiction.

4) Sonic upsets SSB...and it isn't close.
Fiction

5) Final Fantasy fails to triple Mega Man. Zelda > FF bandwagon ensues.
Fiction, but if it happens, then yes about the bandwagon thing.

6) Street Fighter upsets Resident Evil.
Fiction

7) There will be Capcom SFF in SF/RE, meaning the winner will get at least 55% of the vote.
Fiction, thre might be a small amount, but I could see more with DMC/RE since they're both action games.

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LegendarySnake | Posted 7/19/2006 1:45:55 AM | message detail
Heh, Pokemon won a 15 minute update by all of 3 votes.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/19/2006 2:02:13 AM | message detail
5 I say is fact, mostly because Mega Man WILL come much closer to FF than Zelda, and then idiots who don't know Mega Man gets SFFed by Zelda will jump on the Zelda > FF bandwagon.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/19/2006 2:07:20 AM | message detail
Pokemon sure is trying to do the unthinkable here. I kinda had a feeling this would be close but I didn't think Pokemon would be winning updates.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/19/2006 2:16:36 AM | message detail
1810 vote barrier? =P
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 7/19/2006 2:36:23 AM | message detail
This match is insane and I love it. XD

POKEYMAN?! POKEYMAN WITH THE POKEY AND THE MAN AND THE THING WHERE THE GUY COMES OUTTA DA THING... AN' HE WALKS AROUND ARGH OH AR AR AR AR.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/19/2006 2:55:55 AM | message detail
Pokemon over Diablo (or Halo) would've made an awesome upset, IMO. Right now I could see either happening.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/19/2006 2:56:34 AM | message detail
I'm amazed that Pokemon is still doing so well.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/19/2006 3:01:20 AM | message detail
*wakes up*

Holy crap, this is amazing.

Well actually I didn't just wake up... but I did just read through what I missed in this and last stats topic before posting. >_>

Pokemon has been pretty much splitting the vote with metroid for a while now... it might start coming back soon. I wouldn't count on it, but it would be awesome if it did.

Well whatever happens, this match is currently one of the best ones we've had all contest.
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Mister Mario | Posted 7/19/2006 3:02:55 AM | message detail
Y'know, if you count Red/Blue/Green/Yellow, instead of Yellow being seperate, Pokemon becomes the highest selling game of all time.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/19/2006 3:18:36 AM | message detail
1) Fire Emblem outperforms Soul Calibur on Metal Gear. Fiction
2) Kingdom Hearts beats Castlevania...and it isn't close (we're talking 55%+ here). Fiction
3) Warcraft manages to escape the doubling from Mario. Fiction
4) Sonic upsets SSB...and it isn't close. Fiction
5) Final Fantasy fails to triple Mega Man. Zelda > FF bandwagon ensues. Fact
6) Street Fighter upsets Resident Evil. Fact
7) There will be Capcom SFF in SF/RE, meaning the winner will get at least 55% of the vote. Fact

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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/19/2006 3:26:07 AM | message detail
<3333 Pokemon

Is there any chance whatsoever for a comeback?
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/19/2006 3:26:47 AM | message detail
Unless Pokemon is a beast with the day vote, no.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/19/2006 3:29:52 AM | message detail
However, I expect Pokemon to turn this into another Tidus/Shadow.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/19/2006 3:30:55 AM | message detail
Not if Metroid keeps having updates like this. >_<
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/19/2006 3:32:28 AM | message detail
To think that Metroid may only beat Pokemon by 2000 votes

>_>
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Kaxon | Posted 7/19/2006 4:29:18 AM | message detail
I thought that Pokemon should be a fair bit stronger than Kirby, but for some reason I still didn't see it getting anywhere close to Metroid. This is a big surprise. (But nowhere near Magus/Knuckles, which people were comparing it to in the last topic).
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 7/19/2006 4:33:15 AM | message detail
FACT or FICTION:
1) Fire Emblem outperforms Soul Calibur on Metal Gear.

Fiction

2) Kingdom Hearts beats Castlevania...and it isn't close (we're talking 55%+ here).

Fact

3) Warcraft manages to escape the doubling from Mario.

Fiction

4) Sonic upsets SSB...and it isn't close.

Fiction

5) Final Fantasy fails to triple Mega Man. Zelda > FF bandwagon ensues.

Factoid

6) Street Fighter upsets Resident Evil.

Fiction

7) There will be Capcom SFF in SF/RE, meaning the winner will get at least 55% of the vote.

Faction. I'm seeing over 55 for RE, but not necessarily from SFF>
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jonthomson | Posted 7/19/2006 6:07:56 AM | message detail
How is this even close??? Once again the voting public manages to disgust me.

FWIW, I'm now accessing the internet solely through university computers until we get cable installed in our new place, so I'll have to post my pre-match analyses a bit earlier than normal, for the no people that are actually interested :-)
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jonthomson | Posted 7/19/2006 6:09:15 AM | message detail
Match 19 - Metal Gear vs Fire Emblem

Another one sided match for Metal Gear to be honest. First round it came up just short of 70% on Soul Calibur, not the greatest of performances but more or less where I thought it would be, and I think that's more to do with strength from SC than any weakness on the part of Metal Gear. In any case, you can't call a comfortable doubling weak.

Fire Emblem? It won in Ulti blowout fashion against Silent Hill in what's effectively its final. Only question now is whether it can match Soul Calibur's numbers to come second in the four pack. I think it might be quite close, although I'm leading towards it failing to make it. The best it can hope for is to avoid a doubling but I really can't see it. I think it avoids the trebling but still fails to make 30%.

Besides, we're just quibbling over fractions here, this match has no effect on anything but the (lol) xstats. We all know that Metal Gear will win, almost certainly beat whoever wins tomorrow's much more interesting match and then lose to Zelda.

Bracket says: Metal Gear
Favourites bracket says: Soul Calibur
Vote says: Metal Gear
Prediction: Metal Gear with 70.26%

Fun fact of the day: Using Kirby's taunt in sudden death mode is extremely funny. Especially if your opponent hasn't died like you think they have.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 7/19/2006 6:48:31 AM | message detail
I wake up, and Pokemon seems to be trying to make a match out of fit! Then again, based on the updates, it's been trying for quite some time now. >_<

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KamikazePotato | Posted 7/19/2006 6:53:15 AM | message detail
Also, this match really puts into doubt whether or not Metroid SFFd Kirby. I mean, how many people besides me would've picked Pokemon over Kirby if it was in the bracket?

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voltch | Posted 7/19/2006 6:57:53 AM | message detail
it would be fun to have another Pokemon character in the main field.

bu why always pikachu?
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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/19/2006 7:00:59 AM | message detail
1) Fire Emblem outperforms Soul Calibur on Metal Gear.

That would be hilarious, but Fiction.

2) Kingdom Hearts beats Castlevania...and it isn't close (we're talking 55%+ here).

Definite Fiction. Castlevania has a chance (not the largest) to break 55 on Kingdom Hearts.

3) Warcraft manages to escape the doubling from Mario.

It won't get 15k worth of rallied votes in an expected blowout. Fiction

4) Sonic upsets SSB...and it isn't close.

Might well end up being Fact, but I'll be normal and say Fiction.

5) Final Fantasy fails to triple Mega Man. Zelda > FF bandwagon ensues.

Faction. Zelda SFFed MMX, FF will not. That said, FF still might have the raw srength to JUST break the 75%.

6) Street Fighter upsets Resident Evil.

Fiction, and I can't wait to gloat to illumina.

7) There will be Capcom SFF in SF/RE, meaning the winner will get at least 55% of the vote.

Faction again. RE will get 55%, but there will be no Capcom SFF. I mean, you don't have "Capcom-Fanboys" that worship every Capcom game. Or, at least, not that many. You get something like that with Square or Nintendo, but not Capcom. I mean, would you expect Kojima-SFF is Metal Gear met Zone of the Enders?
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charmander6000 | Posted 7/19/2006 7:01:17 AM | message detail
Impressive performance by Pokemon.
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charmander6000 | Posted 7/19/2006 7:03:03 AM | message detail
Also, this match really puts into doubt whether or not Metroid SFFd Kirby. I mean, how many people besides me would've picked Pokemon over Kirby if it was in the bracket?

I would have. When I first did my bracket I always though Pokemon would keep it close with Metroid, but the board changed my opinion.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/19/2006 7:05:10 AM | message detail
Oh, I kind of figured Pokemon would be strong. I never understood the whole Star Ocean > Pokemon thing.
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transience | Posted 7/19/2006 7:06:52 AM | message detail
I said in a number of topics that Pokemon > Kirby. that was more thinking that Kirby was weak than Pokemon was strong though.

Metroid can't get any separation here... looks like it'll just settle for a 7000 vote win or something ever so slowly. weird.
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transience | Posted 7/19/2006 7:08:35 AM | message detail
the worst part about this fourpack is that we're not going to have a god damn clue how strong it is.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/19/2006 7:10:02 AM | message detail
Yeah, because Zelda is just going to SFF into the ground. And it would probably do the same to Pokemon (but in a lesser degree) if Pokemon pulled it out.

Heh, we should have supported Star Ocean just so we'd have a fair reading XD

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