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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 317

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NewLib | Posted 7/17/2006 9:55:38 PM | message detail
GTAIV/SonicTheHedgehog/Metroid Prime 3/Halo 3

Seriously November starts the best year of gaming EVAH.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 9:55:53 PM | message detail
FFXII/MGS4/SSBB/SMG/TP

Not really. TP > FF12, the other three are a little more debateable but it should be clear who wins when the games are actually *released*.
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NewLib | Posted 7/17/2006 9:57:04 PM | message detail
Uh considering SSBM beat FFX. I wouldnt say FFXII over any of the others is guarnteed at all.

Even though I do agree Twilight Princess will be the strongest of the pack.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 9:57:36 PM | message detail
Zelda fans are damn patient, though. These delays are what killed my anticipation of OoT in the first place.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/17/2006 9:58:09 PM | message detail
The way you make it sound, the overabundance of new games would be simply scary.

But seriously, holding a contest so close to MGS4's release would either be unfair to MGS4 or its competition, depending on whether it underperforms or overperforms because of that. We don't have anything to go by because in the first game contest, the most recent game still came out many, many months before the contest started.

Just a random thought. Not that I oppose MGS4 at all, but people were making the same argument for Twilight Princess last year when discussing this year. Is there ever going to be a year where we can hold a game contest without that sort of problem? Heck, the game contest was held a few months prior to the incredible Flood of Fall 2004, starring GTA:SA and Halo 2 among others.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/17/2006 9:58:09 PM | message detail
Depends on how well FFXII is received. The GotY poll will be interesting. Are there any GotY polls with a FF AND a Zelda game in them?
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 9:58:40 PM | message detail
FFXII benefits a lot more from recency than SSBB. Remember the GotY poll, remember how close SSBM/FFX was, and I don't give anything else a shot in hell.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/17/2006 9:58:40 PM | message detail
TP > SSBB >= MGS4 > FFXII > SMG

Weee
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 7/17/2006 9:58:41 PM | message detail
Theres one with WW and FFX-2
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NewLib | Posted 7/17/2006 9:59:21 PM | message detail
Zelda fans arent nearly as patient as Mario ones. This Zelda game really has only been delayed a year (Nov 2005-> Mar 2006-> Nov 2006). The new Mario game was originaly thought to come out in 2004 and might not make this year.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/17/2006 9:59:33 PM | message detail
Ahh, two of the black sheep of their series.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
DeepHyren12 | Posted 7/17/2006 10:01:00 PM | message detail
Oh, and I also really, *really* like FF5. What's up with that?

FF5 was awesome. Job system is the best system FF has come up with.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/17/2006 10:02:30 PM | message detail
At the 1:00 mark, this match has 12992 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time:

Zelda/Civilization - 10256
Castlevania/Halo - 11486
SSB/DQ - 12051
RE/SH - 11166

Zelda is 1200 votes ahead of its individual vote pace against Civilization.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
NewLib | Posted 7/17/2006 10:02:47 PM | message detail
Job System rocks everything. Seriously no system can be comparable.

Thats the only thing that even makes FFX-2 playable.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/17/2006 10:03:33 PM | message detail
I must be one of the few that isn't a big fan of the job system. Not saying it's bad, but I don't particularly care either way.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
NewLib | Posted 7/17/2006 10:03:39 PM | message detail
Did FF come up with the Job System, I was under the impression it was a DW invention.
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DGZFIGHTERS | Posted 7/17/2006 10:04:03 PM | message detail
SSF, possibly?

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DGZFIGHTERS | Posted 7/17/2006 10:04:22 PM | message detail
I meant SFF..

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 10:04:22 PM | message detail
I'm also not too enthused about the year of gaming to come, although that's mainly because I am loathe to buy any system that's not a Wii thanks to the ridiculous price points. So, I'll likely rent MGS4 and won't leave the house for the rental period...and other than that I'll buy TP with the money I had saved up for it back in 2004. -_-

Other than that there's SSBB (which I wouldn't be getting at launch if it didn't have Snake)...and that's it for me. I won't bother with MP3 despite loving the first two, I *may* bother with SMG if it proves to be what we've been waiting for, and I would get FF12...except I still need to actually play Final Fantasy X.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/17/2006 10:05:42 PM | message detail
So, I'll likely rent MGS4 and won't leave the house for the rental period...

Rent?! You pay whatever necessary to get the Game of the Century.

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Slowflake | Posted 7/17/2006 10:06:23 PM | message detail
I wouldn't pay 600 bucks to gain god powers for a day.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 10:06:45 PM | message detail
I'll get it eventually. Just when I'm in a more financially secure situation. Sorry Kutaragi, but the PS3 doesn't make me want to get a second job. And I can only skip so many meals before people get antsy.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 7/17/2006 10:07:13 PM | message detail
Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior.

Boondock Saints?

If so, <3!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 10:07:51 PM | message detail
Ironically I only have this sig because I lost a sig bet.

Ironically, that wasn't ironic!
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/17/2006 10:08:39 PM | message detail
I'll get it eventually. Just when I'm in a more financially secure situation. Sorry Kutaragi, but the PS3 doesn't make me want to get a second job. And I can only skip so many meals before people get antsy.

Back in June, if you saved up something like $45 a week you would have enough for a PS3, two games, and another controller. So just increase that by a bit and you're set.


(The PS3 will likely have gotten a significant price drop -- $100 -- by the time MGS4 comes out anyway. So you're good.)

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NewLib | Posted 7/17/2006 10:08:47 PM | message detail
HM, you misunderstood his post. He did say he was buying Twilight Princess which all reasonable human beings know is the game of the century.


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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/17/2006 10:09:43 PM | message detail
He did say he was buying Twilight Princess which all reasonable human beings know is the game of the century.

No, he said he still needs to play Final Fantasy X, which is the ACTUAL game of the century.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/17/2006 10:10:01 PM | message detail
Twilight Princess is not even the best game coming out this year, much less the GotC, which is far and away MGS4!!

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Slowflake | Posted 7/17/2006 10:10:12 PM | message detail
Heh.

By the way, am I alone in noticing there's something horribly wrong with Sonic's mouth on the contest banner?
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 10:10:54 PM | message detail
If my past experiences are any indication though, it'd probably be in my best interest to just skip TP and just get that Phantom Whatzit game that's coming out. After all, Majora's Mask trashed Ocarina of Time in every way that mattered for me.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/17/2006 10:11:16 PM | message detail
For some reason, Sonic characters always have their mouths on the side of their faces.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
NewLib | Posted 7/17/2006 10:11:22 PM | message detail
But MGS 4 isnt even the best game coming out in ITS year, so how can it expect to compete with Twilight Princess.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/17/2006 10:12:13 PM | message detail
I know that. That's how it's supposed to be. But it seems to have been extended, and if CJayC did it he did an awful job of it. Just check the bigger version on the stats page, you'll see what I mean.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/17/2006 10:12:22 PM | message detail
MGS4 > SSBB

And SSBB is only close because Solid Snake is in it!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Master Moltar | Posted 7/17/2006 10:13:57 PM | message detail
After all, Majora's Mask trashed Ocarina of Time in every way that mattered for me.

Eh, I wouldn't say thrashed...but yeah.

and as much as I want MGS4...no nearly $700 for teh evil sony corporation bad guyz
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/17/2006 10:14:12 PM | message detail
But MGS 4 isnt even the best game coming out in ITS year, so how can it expect to compete with Twilight Princess.

If you're trying to imply something nasty like SSBB being better than MGS4, then you go can swallow gasoline!!


SSBB is only cool because of Solid Snake. You remember that.

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NewLib | Posted 7/17/2006 10:14:37 PM | message detail
I was actualy thinking more of Spore than SSBB. But SSBB would fit the bill too.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/17/2006 10:14:51 PM | message detail
If the PS3 is still $600 by this time next year, Sony is full of idiots.




...So the PS3 will still be $600 this time next year.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 10:15:04 PM | message detail
And slightly because of Kirby and Meta-Knight!

But yeah, mostly because of Snake and FFP is canon and whatnot.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/17/2006 10:15:14 PM | message detail
You can expect at least three more E3 showings before Spore is released.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 10:16:30 PM | message detail
NewLib is silly let's all laugh at NewLib now.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

On a more disturbing note, this percentage will just not change drastically. Stupid stabilizing trends.
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NewLib | Posted 7/17/2006 10:16:52 PM | message detail
I actually think Spore will get released in 2007.

Also MASS EFFECT. Man the more I think, the better 2007 gets.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/17/2006 10:17:19 PM | message detail
Well, it doesn't need to change DRASTICALLY. Just .74% in the next 22 hours, 45 minutes.

That's manageable.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 10:17:36 PM | message detail
I haven't even heard of half these games. Where are you people getting the money to play them?!
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yoshifan823 | Posted 7/17/2006 10:18:22 PM | message detail
Go Go MMX, Gain 6 Percent!
*Repeats until it happens.*
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NewLib | Posted 7/17/2006 10:19:07 PM | message detail
Which games havent you heard of?

The only that I could possibly fathom you not knowing of is Mass Effect. And all you need to know abou that is...


BIOWARE.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 10:19:26 PM | message detail
If MMX gained 6 percent I'd be calling MG over Zelda.

GOOD THING I ALREADY AM LOLOLOLOL
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/17/2006 10:20:41 PM | message detail
I'm through with Bioware until they can get their load times in order. I have far more precious uses of my time, like waiting around for a ride on a public computer in the middle of the night. Booyah!
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NewLib | Posted 7/17/2006 10:23:41 PM | message detail
Also its amazing how forgotten the XBox 360 has started to become. Not just here, but everywhere. But what does it have coming out for it?

Halo 3, Gears of War if it ever comes out, Too Human if it ever comes out, uhhhh....

guys help?
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/17/2006 10:24:23 PM | message detail
I am going to find out where KH uses that public computer, and get his name banned!

It is a foolproof plan. And if you are wondering why I am not using any contractions, it is because my apostrophe key feels like being cool.

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