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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/18/2006 9:33:47 PM | message detail
Ehh, I'm not so sure I'd take Metroid over Mega Man. I don't think there's any doubt that Samus is MUCH bigger than Metroid, for whatever the reason. I called for Metroid to be one of the most overrated series before the contest began. It's just too bad it didn't get a draw where it could've bitten a lot of people.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/18/2006 9:34:11 PM | message detail
I would never give Metroid a shot in hell at MM or Sonic, even before this. I knew Samus was more popular only because of SSB to begin with, and her games don't seem to get the same love. MMX/Metroid is a much, much better match in my mind though.
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cyko | Posted 7/18/2006 9:35:02 PM | message detail
eh, 3 people actually did take Pokemon in the Oracle Challenge.

i gotta admit, though. i really thought that Pokemon would be on the level of Kirby and that Metroid was held in much higher regard. man. aside from SMB, i've always felt that Metroid was the second highest pinnacle of platform series.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/18/2006 9:35:22 PM | message detail
There were plenty of people out there who I saw adamently defending Pokemon's chance at victory in this match, I sincerely doubt it was because of how much the board thought this would be a cookie-cutter match. Regardless, Pokemon isn't winning.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/18/2006 9:35:34 PM | message detail
*adamantly
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/18/2006 9:35:36 PM | message detail
Holy crap! Pokemon gained!







Not really.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 7/18/2006 9:36:12 PM | message detail
actually, a lot of people called the series overrated, to the point where I felt it was underrated. I definitely would have taken GTA or Metal Gear and probably Sonic over Metroid, but I don't think it'd lose to the Mega Man X's of the world. I'll be curious to see how Metroid does on Zelda - assuming it wins here, of course. Metroid has arguably more overlap with Zelda than MMX does, yet I'd expect it to score higher than MMX did.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/18/2006 9:37:13 PM | message detail
Now, if Pokemon could actually pull off some semblance of a day vote shift, we'd have something really interesting on our hands (because I doubt Metroid gets much of one). However, looking at its percentage against Star Ocean, hardly what appears to be a day vote beast, the upset is pretty much not happening.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/18/2006 9:38:06 PM | message detail
Well, the thing is...Link to the Past scored a tripling on Super Metroid, which could arguably be the strongest game. Ocarina of Time would undoubtedly do at least a little better.

Seeing Zelda push 80% against Metroid wouldn't surprise me. I guess it really depends on how much Metroid Prime adds to the series.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/18/2006 9:38:21 PM | message detail
I'd expect Metroid to get around 25%...

And yeah, I did kinda think Pokemon as a bit underrated going into this match, but I didn't act on it and decided to play it safe.
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Pokemon vs. Metroid - Bracket: Metroid - Vote: Metroid (16/18)
NewLib | Posted 7/18/2006 9:38:52 PM | message detail
I could see Zelda doing better on Metroid than MMX.

This division is just going to look bad once Zelda is done.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/18/2006 9:39:44 PM | message detail
If Metroid does well against Zelda (well = 20%+), I'd attribute most of it to the Prime games, since I have a feeling they share the least overlap with Zelda.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/18/2006 9:39:44 PM | message detail
This division is just going to look bad once Zelda is done.

Quite unfortunate, but the truth.

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Slowflake | Posted 7/18/2006 9:40:25 PM | message detail
Sadly, this could happen. The Nintendo connection isn't as strong for MMX as it is for Metroid.

Bah. Damn East Zebes judges.
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transience | Posted 7/18/2006 9:40:36 PM | message detail
I think Prime > Super here on GF. it's newer and sold quite a bit more. I wouldn't be completely shocked if Zelda gets over 80% or anything, but I think Metroid has enough of a core audience to get 20%. even on Zelda.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/18/2006 9:40:59 PM | message detail
Looks like Pokemon's losing steam quickly.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/18/2006 9:41:25 PM | message detail
Indeed, the only game I could see getting considerable overlap on Prime -- Wind Waker -- didn't SFF it at all. So Metroid's going to be relying on that hard come next round, much like MMX had to rely on the Playstation games against Zelda.

...oh.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/18/2006 9:41:40 PM | message detail
btw

God damn, does Kirby ever suck.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 7/18/2006 9:41:43 PM | message detail
Remember, this is by far Pokemon's strongest time. The day vote will probably make this 55-45.

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SuperiorSnake | Posted 7/18/2006 9:42:03 PM | message detail
Looks like Pokemon's losing steam quickly.

The more it loses the better. I would prefer not to have this, of all matches, be a close one.

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PiGuy96 | Posted 7/18/2006 9:42:11 PM | message detail
Holy crap, this is unexpected.

...

Well, I can take comfort in one thing. Everything that HM could have possibly said about Pokemon/Star Ocean, and then Metroid/Pokemon, has turned out to be completely wrong. :p
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/18/2006 9:42:42 PM | message detail
Kirby as a series having very little strength really shouldn't be a surprise. I wouldn't even expect Kirby Super Star to do that well, and there's no way any of his other games come anywhere close to 20% on FFVII.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/18/2006 9:42:57 PM | message detail
Unexpected close matches are always the best ones.
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SuperiorSnake | Posted 7/18/2006 9:43:34 PM | message detail
Everything that HM could have possibly said about Pokemon/Star Ocean, and then Metroid/Pokemon, has turned out to be completely wrong.

Eh, it just all leads back to underestimating Pokemon more than anything else. Many people did it, too.

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TheRye | Posted 7/18/2006 9:43:49 PM | message detail
Quite a few people took Starcraft over Halo.

26% of the brackets is "quite a few"?
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swirIdude | Posted 7/18/2006 9:44:04 PM | message detail
Well, I can take comfort in one thing. Everything that HM could have possibly said about Pokemon/Star Ocean, and then Metroid/Pokemon, has turned out to be completely wrong. :p

Amen!
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Slowflake | Posted 7/18/2006 9:44:40 PM | message detail
From TheRye | Posted 7/19/2006 12:43:49 AM | #475
Quite a few people took Starcraft over Halo.

26% of the brackets is "quite a few"?


On this board it was quite a bit more than that.

Heck, the fact that 26% of the ENTIRE GameFAQs audience chose a 16-seed speaks volume.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/18/2006 9:44:44 PM | message detail
26% of the brackets is "quite a few"?

He meant on the board, where it was a VERY split match. Still, 26% is rather high for a 16 seed anyway.
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shadow8021 | Posted 7/18/2006 9:44:53 PM | message detail
This makes it nearly official that the longer series will end up doing better in the match, win or lose.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/18/2006 9:45:15 PM | message detail
Bah, beaten by four seconds. I blame the rum slowing my reaction time.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/18/2006 9:46:52 PM | message detail
This makes it nearly official that the longer series will end up doing better in the match, win or lose.

Metroid is quite a bit older than Pokemon...
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/18/2006 9:47:23 PM | message detail
This makes it nearly official that the longer series will end up doing better in the match, win or lose.

Except that Metroid is far older than Pokemon.

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/18/2006 9:48:37 PM | message detail
This makes it nearly official that the longer series will end up doing better in the match, win or lose.

I'd say it's a combination of quantity and age.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/18/2006 9:48:44 PM | message detail
However, Metroid's way older than Pokémon.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/18/2006 9:48:58 PM | message detail
26% of the brackets is "quite a few"?

I was referring to Board 8. Anyway, yes, compared to matches like Magus/Knuckles, there were "quite a few" Starcraft supporters.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/18/2006 9:49:45 PM | message detail
METROID IS OLDER THAN POKEMON YOU N00B

SERIOUSLY GUYS HOW CAN YOU LET HIM GET AWAY WITH THAT
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/18/2006 9:50:20 PM | message detail
From FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/18/2006 11:47:23 PM | #482
This makes it nearly official that the longer series will end up doing better in the match, win or lose.

Except that Metroid is far older than Pokemon.


That means he's saying that it's the only reason Metroid is barely winning now!
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Pokemon vs. Metroid - Bracket: Metroid - Vote: Metroid (16/18)
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/18/2006 9:50:27 PM | message detail
I don't know yo... good thing you caught it!

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/18/2006 9:50:43 PM | message detail
Whoa, only a 10 vote gain for Metroid this time. Could a Pokemon vote gain be coming up?
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dethfdddddh | Posted 7/18/2006 9:50:48 PM | message detail
*cue Jaws theme*

Pokemon might not be dead....
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charmander6000 | Posted 7/18/2006 9:50:59 PM | message detail
Only 10 vote gain there.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 7/18/2006 9:51:48 PM | message detail
..wait, that's yo's new account? I thought you weren't gonna go the route of "lol something I like + numbers" this time. And what happened to YoFedor? >_>
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Slowflake | Posted 7/18/2006 9:52:21 PM | message detail
Well, can't blame Pokémon for putting some excitement into this. All the big surprises that happened so far were overwhelming blowouts from the 1-seeds in round 1.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/18/2006 9:53:29 PM | message detail
I closed everything, Ed. Closed em all down.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/18/2006 9:53:45 PM | message detail
Other than Castlevania beating Halo with ease and Warcraft upsetting GTA, that is.
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transience | Posted 7/18/2006 9:54:04 PM | message detail
gtonizuka49?

YO BLAZER YO BLAZER YO
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swirIdude | Posted 7/18/2006 9:54:23 PM | message detail
Samus: *fires missilE*

BOOM! HEADSHOT!
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/18/2006 9:54:37 PM | message detail
GOTTA CATCH EM ALL!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/18/2006 9:54:37 PM | message detail
Captain Jack Sparrow > Magus
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/18/2006 9:54:41 PM | message detail
Prince Of Persia >>> Mewtwo

Suck it slow!

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