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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 9:19:09 PM | message detail
Meh, I'm just happy that SF isn't beating TES around too badly. It's got a few good percentage gains, so this might be closer to 60/40 or so then I first thought by the times it's over.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 9:19:42 PM | message detail
I took SF with 55%, lol undershooting.

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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 9:20:32 PM | message detail
I took it with 51.5%

lol wishful thinking
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/15/2006 9:23:57 PM | message detail
It hasn't even been 30 minutes, and I'm already sick of the Elder Scrolls fans.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 9:25:22 PM | message detail
I did tell everyone that TES has a very loyal fanbase. I wasn't lying you know. Massive whining is to be expected.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/15/2006 9:26:21 PM | message detail
I know they do, but they're already rivaling the River City Ransom fans during the Pong match.

I mean, I understand being a fan of Elder Scrolls, but mindlessly bashing Street Fighter at the same time? Come on now.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 9:29:16 PM | message detail
Ironically, this match might have the most whining since sf2 lost to smrpg.

And I'm not saying it's reasonable to bash sf, just expected. Fanboys for everything do this when what they like gets beaten.
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ccbfan | Posted 7/15/2006 9:32:02 PM | message detail
I took it with 51.5%

lol wishful thinking


LOL

I think you and Wangalicious are completing against each other at who can be most wrong in this contest. It seems everytime either of you post strongly about who will win, you guys end up being wrong.
Master Moltar | Posted 7/15/2006 9:32:32 PM | message detail
Oh wow, it is bad. This is why I stay in here for these sort of matches.

I wonder how much bracket support TES is getting. I'm guessing at least 25-30%.

And rise back up SF!
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ccbfan | Posted 7/15/2006 9:33:41 PM | message detail
LOL Elder Scrolls actually had the board vote.
Phediuk | Posted 7/15/2006 9:34:00 PM | message detail
Geez, it's like SMRPG vs. SF, except the roles are reversed.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 9:34:28 PM | message detail
I think you and Wangalicious are completing against each other at who can be most wrong in this contest. It seems everytime either of you post strongly about who will win, you guys end up being wrong.

There's only one logical explanation for this: God hates me.

But hey, at least I predicted the correct winner this time, even if my bracket didn't. >_>
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 9:35:27 PM | message detail
LOL Elder Scrolls actually had the board vote.

Ummm... TES was noticably lower in percentage during the board vote, but okay.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 9:38:59 PM | message detail
LOL Elder Scrolls actually had the board vote.

Good thing the board vote had SF at 80%.

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/15/2006 9:39:16 PM | message detail
I can see I'm going to be using the whiner seconds topic a lot today.
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transience | Posted 7/15/2006 9:41:32 PM | message detail
this is awesome. nonstop comedy for all of us!
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 9:43:52 PM | message detail
I seriously wish the elder scrolls fans would shut up though. When the losing side of a match doesn't have craploads of whining, a good deal of people actually become interested in playing a game from the losers side of things. That definitely won't be happening.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/15/2006 9:45:12 PM | message detail
I'm interested in playing Oblivion or Morrowind myself. Though my comp might not be able to handle Oblivion.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 9:47:36 PM | message detail
You can find morrowind new with both expansions for about twenty bucks now, so that might be a good place to start.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/15/2006 9:51:13 PM | message detail
Is there that much of a difference between Morrowind and Oblivion?
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 9:53:31 PM | message detail
Oh there's a huge difference in gameplay and few other things. The dialogue in morrowind is mostly text; everything in oblivion is voiced. When attacking in morrowind there's more of a roll system, where you can miss, whereas damage is more steady in oblivion. They have a lot of similarities... but the differences are also huge. For instance oblivion has light based sneaky, and morrowind needs mods for that.

With mods, morrowind is probably a better game.

planetelderscrolls.com = best site for mods.
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ccbfan | Posted 7/15/2006 9:59:58 PM | message detail
Ummm... TES was noticably lower in percentage during the board vote, but okay.

Ops I must have missed the board vote. Forgot my computer clock lags when I keep it on for too long.

Should have noticed the higher vote count though.
Draco1214 | Posted 7/15/2006 10:02:14 PM | message detail
Thanks for the info dragoon! I'll add Morrowind to my "to play" list.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 10:03:15 PM | message detail
Happy to help, and hopefully you like the game.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/15/2006 10:06:59 PM | message detail
You know, after I lost the second point in my bracket (MM/MK...damn you Board 8, I had Mega Man winning at first and I changed it!), this contest doesn't seem as exciting.

Come to think of it, most of the time my initial gut has done much better than anything the board has tried to convince me.

And my gut told me Warcraft would pull the upset, and it did.
My gut told me Pokemon would wallop Star Ocean, but my brain told me it would be relatively close. And what was right?
My gut told me Metroid would kill Kirby (and my oracle pick was dead-on for that match).
My gut told me LoZ wouldn't break 90% and SMB would.
I figured SSB would push 80% on DQ, yet the board convinced me it wouldn't be that harsh.

That's it. From now on, I'm not listening to facts, just the truth.

THIS IS THE COLBERT REPORT!
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 10:08:20 PM | message detail
The colbert report > most other shows.
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ccbfan | Posted 7/15/2006 10:08:21 PM | message detail
I played Daggerfall when I was a kid. I don't remember anything from the game except the character creation screen and the equipment screen. (which was quite graphic) I was too young to understand any of the stuff. I just roamed around endlessly getting killed.
dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 10:10:08 PM | message detail
I find it funny how many people I've heard of playing daggerful as children, since the game was so graphic. Even if the graphics were crude due to it being earl 3d, there was still nudity, heads impaled on pikes, and many more things that most people... well wouldn't consider suitable for children to say the least.
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Eggplant Lord | Posted 7/15/2006 10:19:13 PM | message detail
STREET FIGHTER WON?!

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/15/2006 10:41:33 PM | message detail
Man, Street Fighter has been gaining a bit now. If RE and SF have the same voting patterns, it looks like it might be one awesome match (given them being even in strength, of course).
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therealmnm | Posted 7/15/2006 10:45:58 PM | message detail
Man, I check in on the board and all hell breaks lose over Street Fighter/Elder Scrolls? I think I've heard one too many arguments about how Elder Scrolls having "thousands of hours of quality gaming" compared to a "repetitive generic fighter"...
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xp1337 | Posted 7/15/2006 10:56:46 PM | message detail
SF needs to stop raising it's percentage. I want to at least be able to pretend RE will have a shot.

Granted, my bracket doesn't have any chance whatsoever, what with LoZ > FF, but still...
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 11:06:56 PM | message detail
Impressive performance by SF, but I never gave TES a shot in hell like some people did (remember, TES is one of those series I take Diablo over with little reservation...no, don't respond, I'm not going to argue).

What it boils down with SF in that match for me, is the question of if GameFAQs still holds it in such a high regard. I have at times questioned if it ever has. Like Mega Man, it's not going to be winning off of anything it's doing now, it's going to be running off of nostalgia. But Mega Man showed us that nostalgia can more than hold its own against series that are still running strong, and that's nothing to hold against Street Fighter.

This is SquintendoFAQs at heart. We all know that. But amidst our love of those companies, do we still hold a place in our heart for the craze of arcades and fighting games in years past, a true innovator and a driving force in the industry's growth itself? Enough to overcome a series of games that benefits from being much more recent and popular, but not nearly as nostalgic and beloved?

My instinct has always pointed to no, and I expect RE to win that match as I always have. So, Street Fighter...prove me wrong.
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NewLib | Posted 7/15/2006 11:07:04 PM | message detail
Unless SF crawls above 70%, I still consider RE the favorite. No matter what SF does for the rest of the match, RE has a shot.


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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 7/15/2006 11:48:59 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
13-----890-----69.4382022
12-----4997----67.1202722
11-----11774---64.7188721
10-----13067---63.2815489
9------8589----61.5089067
8------4264----58.9821764
7------1744----55.7339450
6------541-----57.3012939
5------147-----52.3809524
4------53------49.0566038
3------38------39.4736842
2------54------29.6296296
1------34------20.5882353
0------6-------33.3333333

Pretty standard today. Best do the best, worst do the worst. Nearly 70 is pretty good for a debated match even if the match wasn't all that close. A couple 0s survive and barring another Master Hand should all end with 0.

The Top 50 did a bit better than the over all perfects. Only 13 people fell off. Wolf_Kenri, AirSlash, someonebutnoone, xXxRyongxXx, darko_17, ToadYoshi, Rezzman, n_dawg16, scolville, GregCaldwell, Colonel_Alloy, Captain_Freedom and the former first place Sir_Cobain bet against the main series of a Noble Nine member and lost.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/16/2006 12:40:25 AM | message detail
At least MK rose a lil' bit from last night...ah well.

As for today, SF winning was almost a given, but like this? It's a solid performance so far, though I fully expect TES to rise a lil' bit before the end of the match, probably during day-time hours.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/16/2006 2:37:06 AM | message detail
Street Fighter is doing horrible :(

If it can't even double a MMORPG, RE will kill it. :(


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rpgapzx | Posted 7/16/2006 3:07:15 AM | message detail
TRE: Any chance you would mind including the Average Match Prediction when you post those? Sometimes, by the time you post them, I've forgotten the total prediction percentage.

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Mumei | Posted 7/16/2006 3:34:20 AM | message detail
... Well now that's awesome. I must have switched to Mega Man before the brackets closed.

Excellent.

I can't say Street Fighter isn't meeting my expectations - I didn't really give it much thought when I made my bracket and didn't really have expectations for a percentage of votes. Probably ought to have in retrospect. When I put Street Fighter over RE, I probably went too much with my own experiences - I had never owned a Street Fighter game when I was a kid - damned overprotective parents - but I had certainly rented them or played them when cousins visited. On the other hand, I had really only played any RE about a few hours in total.

As far as this match goes now, I'm feeling a bit disappointed, and I'm feeling like that choice is probably coming back to bite me, and hard.

On the subject of losing points, after missing two matches - Castlevania vs. Halo and Warcraft vs. GTA - I thought I was completely screwed, but maybe I'll have a chance if I get the next matches in their respective four-packs correct, especially KH vs. Castlevania. Probably still completely screwed, but hopefully I'll do... respectably, at least.

I just tried checking to see what I got in last year's character contest, and for whatever reason was unable. Something about 12 points. And then the prediction percentages for some matches were well over 100%. Is there something I should know?

... Anyway, going back to the contest, thus far I haven't been too excited about this contest. I think most people who read what I post probably gather that I'm quite pleased with the vastly increased vote totals, but most of the matches are fairly boring. I gain much more... entertainment, I guess is the word, from reading people's impressions on the results than I actually do from the matches themselves, especially when it comes to matches that were controversial or had strong implications for the coming rounds.

Hopefully there will be an unexpected barnburner somewhere in here, though. I'm not really seeing one, but I'd love to be surprised.

I seem to have a tendency to ramble in the morning hours.

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jonthomson | Posted 7/16/2006 3:58:06 AM | message detail
I can't say Street Fighter isn't meeting my expectations

Expecting anything massively over a doubling is wildly optimistic tbh, all things considered.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/16/2006 4:47:01 AM | message detail
I'm curious: at this point, who would people take in a match of Kingdom Hearts vs. Street Fighter, and with what percentage?

I'd be pretty tempted to take SF, personally. Oblivion came pretty close to KH2 in that GotY poll, and SF's doing almost as well on ES as KH did on HM. Couple that with series > two games factor, and SF has all the advantages in its corner.
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jonthomson | Posted 7/16/2006 4:58:37 AM | message detail
KH wins, probably 60/40.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/16/2006 5:29:46 AM | message detail
Very good performance by Street Fighter. So much for non-ES players recognizing the name.

Though it looks like ES will be having the day vote... it'll be interesting to see where it ends. A win over RE sounds most doubtful though.
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Who Cares? | Posted 7/16/2006 6:08:58 AM | message detail
I don't see how today's match against an untested entry suddenely makes RE > SF more of a lock. Personally I feel RE will take it in a close one, but even if SF was winning with 80%, it wouldn't change my stance. To me this was about the strength of TES.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/16/2006 7:01:22 AM | message detail
I agree with Who Cares?. I'm supporting RE and I have it in my bracket, but you can't gauge SF's strength against a contest debutant.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/16/2006 7:13:59 AM | message detail
Yes I can!

This is pretty much what I expected for SF (64-66%), and ES is rising in percentage with the morning vote. All is going according to plan...
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/16/2006 7:22:51 AM | message detail
My gut told me Metroid would kill Kirby (and my oracle pick was dead-on for that match).

.. we all knew Metroid would kill Kirby..


My gut told me LoZ wouldn't break 90% and SMB would.

okay, this doesn't say much. everyone thought that too.

I figured SSB would push 80% on DQ, yet the board convinced me it wouldn't be that harsh.

it pushed for it but it sure didn't end in 80% now did it?
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Mumei | Posted 7/16/2006 7:37:59 AM | message detail
Well now this is interesting. I was watching a show recently when one of the characters began talking about a situation in which a character had to make a choice: "He chooses based upon which will hurt him the least. When betting, those who think about the consequences won't be able to win."

In a moment of introspection, I realized that this actually applied to me - I didn't believe that WC really had a chance, so I won't count that, but RPGuy96 very nearly convinced me that Castlevania would be Halo. The main reason I left Halo in the match was because I felt I had a win-win situation; if I was wrong, hey, at least something I love is going on. If I was right, I got a point.

Of course, this isn't the first time that overcautiousness has been a problem for me...

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ccbfan | Posted 7/16/2006 7:44:09 AM | message detail
I think we're basically gonna go into RE vs SF blind.

Neither's first round match proves anything. I thought SF was gonna about double TES which it is. But I don't know how strong is TES. Its a Xbox/PC which doesn't do well in these contest at all. On the other hand Oblivion's been getting endless raves here. TES could beat Diablo 60-40 or could lost to Diblo 70-30.

Then you got RE vs How the heck did this series get into this contest aka Shadow Hearts. Which shows nothing at all.
Mumei | Posted 7/16/2006 8:07:11 AM | message detail
Shadow Hearts has had a contestant in the contest before, unless I am thinking of another relatively-obscure PS2 RPG series. Not sure how indicative that might be of possible strength, but maybe it is something to go off of as a general guideline.

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