GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 315
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| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 3:35:02 PM | message detail |
| I'd say Sonic has the advantage in that most people on GameFAQs
actually care about the newer games that he's churning out. Look at the
favorite Mega Man poll -- you've got almost all the votes going to the
defunct Classic Series and the may-as-well-be defunct X Series, with
very few going to any others (and even a few of those are
defunct...like MML ;_;). That's the thing that is meant with 'dead
weight'...I doubt the MMZ series does much for MM's overall strength.
It doesn't mean that they're disliked or anything. However, for all the hatred they get, Sonic's new games are MUCH more popular than Mega Man's new ones. Despite how they turned off many of the Genesis-era fans, Sonic will be getting a very healthy number of votes from SA, SA2, and, yes, even SH and Shadow. Sonic is more alive than Mega Man right now, and that's what probably gives his series the edge. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 3:36:33 PM | message detail |
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I won't even take the Snake division seriously. Honestly, both KH and
CV are ripe for MG overperforming on them for a variety of reasons. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/15/2006 3:38:49 PM | message detail |
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I'd say Sonic has more dead weight, especially with recent games. Except the 3-D games aren't as unpopular as people make them out to be. It's a Board 8 perception, much like FFX-2 and FFTA. And if anything, the split between the 2-D and 3-D fanbase is an advantage Sonic has that Mega Man doesn't. The split between Mega Man and his other spinoffs isn't nearly as drastic. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/15/2006 3:39:59 PM | message detail |
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Metal Gear will overperform on either of those before they overperform on it. Bank on it. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 3:40:29 PM | message detail |
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That's what I meant, but I didn't phrase it well. <_< --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/15/2006 3:42:16 PM | message detail |
| Cjayc always tries to have a joke quarter and its usually Snake related for Megaman related that ends up in that quarter. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/15/2006 3:58:57 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse15.jpg The whole SF gang is here to kick Elder Scrolls ass. --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Mega Man vs. Mario Kart - Bracket: MM - Vote: MK (11/13) |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/15/2006 3:59:48 PM | message detail |
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Ken gained some weight.. --- * Is Dranze * |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 4:00:02 PM | message detail |
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This picture screams 'meh' at me. I'm suddenly scared that we won't be
able to hit 100,000 votes with it. *gets smacked* Okay, I'm better. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/15/2006 4:02:27 PM | message detail |
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It's irritating how everytime a discussion about Sonic's 3D games comes
up everyone magically forgets about Shadow. Where do you guys think his
strength comes from? --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 4:05:12 PM | message detail |
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I really don't think the stats are going to be that messed up, aside
from them looking crazy aside from their being mass fodder, in regards
to Final Fantasy anyway. Metroid/Kirby? Metroid has never shown it's capable of really SFFing anything, and there's plenty of reason for Kirby's games to actually be that weak. MMX/LoZ? MM has shown to be fairly SFF resistent, and LoZ well, we all know it's the king of SFF. I honestly don't expect there to be that much SFF in this match if there is at all, but I know I'm in the minority on this one. Regardless, everyone will dub SFF on it because it'll end up looking significantly weaker than MM in the x-stats, and we just can't have that! Metroid/Pokemon? Once again, Metroid has never shown it's capable of really SFFing anything, and Pokemon, a game that has absolutely nothing in common with Metroid aside from appearing on Nintendo systems, I seriously doubt it going to get SFFed. It will show it's incredibly weak however, and that will make everyone want to throw the SFF label all over it. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 4:07:24 PM | message detail |
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MM has shown to be fairly SFF resistent, and LoZ well, we all know
it's the king of SFF. I honestly don't expect there to be that much SFF
in this match if there is at all, but I know I'm in the minority on
this one. Regardless, everyone will dub SFF on it because it'll end up
looking significantly weaker than MM in the x-stats, and we just can't
have that! I really can't agree with this. I think MM is stronger than MMX indirectly, but Link/Mega Man has proven that Zelda can seriously SFF some MM. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 4:07:30 PM | message detail |
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It's irritating how everytime a discussion about Sonic's 3D games
comes up everyone magically forgets about Shadow. Where do you guys
think his strength comes from? God did it. Hey, it works for the Christians. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 4:09:14 PM | message detail |
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Well I at least admitted that if SFF is going to occur, it's going to
be in that match. And I do expect it to occur, I just expect everyone
to blow it way out of proportion. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/15/2006 4:09:47 PM | message detail |
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Metroid has never shown it's capable of really SFFing anything O rly? Samus got some pretty insane SFF on Ganon. --- Why the **** is "rly" in the spellchecker? |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 4:10:19 PM | message detail |
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O rly? Samus got some pretty insane SFF on Ganon. Nah, that was about what was expected. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Lopen | Posted 7/15/2006 4:10:53 PM | message detail |
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about Sonic's 3D games comes up everyone magically forgets about Shadow. Where do you guys think his strength comes from? Sonic clone, right? That's what people say? Like it or not, it's probably somewhat right. The real question is how much do the 3D games add? How much of the Sonic fanbase wouldn't vote for it had it not been for the 3D games? We need a Knuckles/Shadow match! --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 7/15/2006 4:11:45 PM | message detail |
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Except the 3-D games aren't as unpopular as people make them out to be. It's a Board 8 perception, much like FFX-2 and FFTA. And if anything, the split between the 2-D and 3-D fanbase is an advantage Sonic has that Mega Man doesn't. The split between Mega Man and his other spinoffs isn't nearly as drastic. Good point, even Shadow the Hedgehog (the game) had some fans when it came out. --- Current Contest Score: 13/13 Next Winner: Mega Man I'll just put something to fill another line here. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 4:12:25 PM | message detail |
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O rly? Samus got some pretty insane SFF on Ganon. Did this occur in some hidden GameFAQs poll that I was unaware of? --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 4:14:42 PM | message detail |
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I guess he just really takes what Ganondorf did against Sephiroth seriously. I thought that went out of style nine months ago. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 4:15:50 PM | message detail |
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lol villains contest --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| plasmabeam | Posted 7/15/2006 4:22:16 PM | message detail |
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I like the 3D Sonics a helluva lot more than the 2D ones. The 2D ones
just all feel the same. Sure, Sonic Heroes blew, but I loved the two
Sonic Adventure games. I also have that same problem with 2D Zeldas, except I think Link's Awakening is an excellent game. But LttP, LoZ, and the Oracles are all the same to me. Minish Cap is simply a turd. --- Best Series Ever Contest - 12 pts, Next: MK Jacksonville Jaguars (12-5) Eliminated from playoffs |
| BDawg | Posted 7/15/2006 4:30:44 PM | message detail |
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Hmm I'm just gonna cut my losses right now and come out and say "what the hell does SFF stand for?" --- Should I start running now? |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/15/2006 4:31:01 PM | message detail |
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Whoever that guy is on the right on the Elder Scrolls half of the picture looks terrified of the Street Fighter crew. Always pleased to see Chun-Li in a match picture. Whoo! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| cyko | Posted 7/15/2006 4:36:47 PM | message detail |
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"what the hell does SFF stand for?" Something Fishy Fishsticks!! --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 4:38:01 PM | message detail |
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With a game as sweet as this in the Prince Of Persia series, how did it not get into this contest? http://www.gamespot.com/promos/princeofpersia-game/flash/ --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/15/2006 4:38:37 PM | message detail |
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Because nobody cares about him and he's going to flop in the Summer Contest! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| cyko | Posted 7/15/2006 4:39:33 PM | message detail |
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I also have that same problem with 2D Zeldas, except I think Link's Awakening is an excellent game. But LttP, LoZ, and the Oracles are all the same to me. Minish Cap is simply a turd. *smacks plasmabeam* you silly man!! Minish Cap is vastly superior than any of my turds! unless, of course, you mean that your turds are mighty and glorious. otherwise, i found Zelda: MC to be quite enjoyable. my only real complaint is that it was a little on the short side and they tried to compensate by WAY over-doing it on the kinstones. besides that, it was a worthy Zelda title. --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 4:39:39 PM | message detail |
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He flopped on your mother last night! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 4:42:09 PM | message detail |
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That game is seriously pissing me off... I can get to the Vizier every single time, but I can never figure out how to fight. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/15/2006 4:47:38 PM | message detail |
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And to top it all off, Metal Gear is the "chosen one" who's slated to accompany the big three in the Final 4. Justice! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/15/2006 4:52:42 PM | message detail |
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I like the crazed smile of Bison in the background of that Street Fighter picture. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Who Cares? | Posted 7/15/2006 5:16:15 PM | message detail |
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Awesome, I was expect Ryu, Ken, & Chun, but Bison in the background just rocks. Hope we see Akuma in the next round though. --- Character Noms: Ken, Chun-Li, Kasumi, Morrigan, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 5:42:15 PM | message detail |
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Wow, that was completely out of left field... my brother saw tomorrow's
match and had no clue who would win. Turns out he has a friend who
played Morrowind. Still, I had no clue he knew what that is... I mean,
I'd heard the Morrowind name before, but no more than that. And the
fact that he could associate the two like that, well, there goes the
idea that "Elder Scrolls" is unfamiliar to whoever hasn't played it. So yeah, for whatever reason the chance of ES winning is starting to bother me a bit. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Kratos_42 | Posted 7/15/2006 5:46:24 PM | message detail |
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Nice to hear someone here say that ES has a chance. --- He wields the blade of a fallen hero, but now he is the hero, and it is the others who fall. He is rising. CERtified user. |
| LordOfDabu | Posted 7/15/2006 5:48:17 PM | message detail |
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I'm pretty sure that people who've played a game in the series are going to know that it's Elder Scrolls. --- The GameFAQs StarCraft Tournament of Champions 2006 Bracket: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000184&topic=28995048 |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 5:48:38 PM | message detail |
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That's not a good thing, actually. When a big underdog starts worrying me, it usually loses big. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 5:49:23 PM | message detail |
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From LordOfDabu | Posted 7/15/2006 8:48:17 PM | #386 I'm pretty sure that people who've played a game in the series are going to know that it's Elder Scrolls. But the issue is, I thought those who didn't would have absolutely no clue and would at least recognize the SF name. Guess it's back to the drawing board. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/15/2006 5:50:03 PM | message detail |
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I'm not worried about the Elder Scrolls. Would anybody even have given it a chance without Oblivion? Unlikely. Now can Oblivion make up that big differential? I doubt it. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LordOfDabu | Posted 7/15/2006 5:57:53 PM | message detail |
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Oblivion is a pretty big game. Most people that have a 360 who would be
likely to visit GameFAQs are going to know exactly what series it
belongs to even if they haven't played it. Of course, the same thing
can be said of Halo, and it still didn't live up to many of our
expectations. I think it'll be pretty close. Bracket voters will probably favor SF though, which with the number of brackets can have a large impact on the outcome (look at Pokemon vs Star Ocean...). --- The GameFAQs StarCraft Tournament of Champions 2006 Bracket: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000184&topic=28995048 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 6:14:31 PM | message detail |
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While I'd like to see TES win, I'd be happy just to see it not bomb completely. Oblivion is a pretty big game. Most people that have a 360 who would be likely to visit GameFAQs are going to know exactly what series it belongs to even if they haven't played it. Of course, the same thing can be said of Halo, and it still didn't live up to many of our expectations. Oblivion is also really big on the pc as well though, which is something halo really didn't have going for it. Morrowind, while not as big of a hit, was also highly critically acclaimed, and won goty in multiple magazines and sites. It was also a xbox/pc game. Since it originated on pc, the series also has a small, but loyal following of people who have played games from it for over a decade. Nothing huge, but once again something halo doesn't have going for it. Then again, I'm probably just amking any excuse I can think of as a reason for one of my favourite series to win a match. >_> Too bad cjayc didn't put it in zedas division as a 3 seed, in place of pokemon. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Eggplant Lord | Posted 7/15/2006 6:44:39 PM | message detail |
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Bringing in something completely unrelated, would most (all?) people here take SNES in an SNES vs. PS2 match? I really just can't imagine that happening. Am I delusional, or is there some Knuckles/Magus relationship that I'm not seeing? === <Mindless Shadow Hearts promotion goes here> It never ends! |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 6:50:11 PM | message detail |
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Bringing in something completely unrelated, would most (all?) people here take SNES in an SNES vs. PS2 match? If there was ever a "best system ever" contest, or something to that extent, I'd probably take snes, but only because it has nostalgia for a lot of people, while the ps2 just doesn't quite yet. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Samurai7 | Posted 7/15/2006 6:50:38 PM | message detail |
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I want it to be remembered I argued for ES long ago >.> TES ~= KotOR means a TES victory! --- Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot? |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/15/2006 6:52:36 PM | message detail |
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Only on Board 8 do 2nd tier RPG series get talked up to the point where noobs believe they will be upset winners. Today its ES...tomorrow its SH...then it gets good...real good :) Round 2 baby...no more fodder.... Oh wait..Fire Emblem is still around...sigh... --- Steve Illumina: Sage of Board 8, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by the Masses. Score: 14-0. Next Win: Street Fighter! |
| Samurai7 | Posted 7/15/2006 6:55:13 PM | message detail |
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Only on Board 8 do 2nd tier RPG series get talked up to the point where noobs believe they will be upset winners. Today its ES...tomorrow its SH...then it gets good...real good :) Round 2 baby...no more fodder.... Oh wait..Fire Emblem is still around...sigh... KotOR (before KotOR II) outranked SFII. SF characters have been decreasing in strength. If TES (Morrowind and Oblivion) are more powerful than KotOR, it will be closer than you all give it credit! Oh and TES are among the best RPGs... not second tier. Only bioware makes comparable Western RPGs --- Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot? |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 6:56:17 PM | message detail |
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Only on Board 8 do 2nd tier RPG series get talked up to the point where noobs believe they will be upset winners. Except for the fact that TES isn't very popular on board 8, and therefor doesn't have the same crazy expectations, that some games and series would. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 6:57:43 PM | message detail |
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Only on Board 8 do 2nd tier RPG series get talked up to the point where noobs believe they will be upset winners. Whoa... I thought you took KH > CV. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 6:58:02 PM | message detail |
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And samurai is right about tes not being second tier. Definitely since
morrowind, and definitely since obivion it's been the king of the
small, but likable genre of open ended rpgs. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/15/2006 6:58:04 PM | message detail |
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KotOR (before KotOR II) outranked SFII. Games =/= Series Don't try bringing up the Games Contest to prove a point here. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |