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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 315
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| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 11:51:04 AM | message detail |
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I think it's a matter of people not wanting to give Halo credit and
wanting to see KH win...the board's preference, naturally -- if
Castlevania had beaten SSB there I don't think anyone would be arguing
KH had a chance. I still think KH will pull it out, though I like Castlevania's chances a lot though. I still think SSB will make it out over Sonic, too, but it's really hard not to believe in the blue blur now. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| swirIdude | Posted 7/15/2006 11:52:07 AM | message detail |
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It could explain a lack of Aeris in recent contests as well. I seem to remember back in the day someone made the point of Aeris losing nominations to "Aerith" and it was laughed off. --- Xbox 360 melts disks! And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 7/15/2006 11:53:09 AM | message detail |
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my entire body is going to spontaneously combust. Of the fluids released, around what % would be semen? 0-0 Anything that makes Sonic look more likely is fine with me. It might well be the closest to full-on Sonic vs. Mario we'll ever get. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz I admire MYC, for she is the pinnacle of human wit, poise, and beauty. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/15/2006 11:54:11 AM | message detail |
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SSB is stronger than MK, but probably not by very much, especially since it's a two-game series. I frankly take the other side of this debate, though I finally think it's clear that everyone who is debating Sonic/SSB simply questions SSB's inherent strength. I just think that FFVII would have annhilated any MK 70+/30 and FFX/MGS2/Vice City all would soundly beat any MK with 60+. While the games' contest results doesn't exactly translate into series', it is clear in my mind that SSB >>> MK, not just by a bit, I can settle for agreeing to disagree until we see in RII. That's what rpgapzx response to transience's comment, and I definitely agree. Mario Kart and Super Smash Brothers are not close in strength, and there are reasons for that. The first one I thought of, and we know it's not the be all end all, but Melee sits at #6, Super Mario Kart weighs in at #61 on the list. In the games contest, no Kart entry made it in, but even more, Double Dash didn't make it in to Division 128. Yes, Mario Kart DS is an awesome game, but I doubt it would beat Melee in a contest setting. Could you really picture Super Mario Kart beating FFX? Smash Brothers counters, and I think beats, Super Mario Kart 64 with Super Smash Brothers, and Double Dash with Melee. That leaves SMK, SC (bleh), and MKDS to make up the difference. Also, I think Smash brothers has really taken on a much higher status with Nintendo and its fans. The gamecube might as well have launched with melee, and the wii could have, and probably should have. I don't think either the GC nor the Wii could have/could get away successfully with launching with the next mario kart. --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 11:54:31 AM | message detail |
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Poor, poor Corno. He'll never get a one seed over SNOIC or SMAUS at this rate. =( --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Ciaran87 | Posted 7/15/2006 11:54:35 AM | message detail |
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Of the fluids released, around what % would be semen? Stop trying to be cool with your forced innuendo, kid. --- Max 2 lines, 160 characters total |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 11:56:30 AM | message detail |
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Of the fluids released, around what % would be semen? Roughly 80%. At this point I still don't fully understand why CV & Sonic would not be the favorites over their round 2 opponents, but meh, I've argued both enough, and if no one's mind has changed by now, I sincerely doubt it'll change until the match actually occurs. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/15/2006 11:57:06 AM | message detail |
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Aww... nice to have you in the stats topic, red. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 12:01:16 PM | message detail |
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That's what rpgapzx response to transience's comment, and I
definitely agree. Mario Kart and Super Smash Brothers are not close in
strength, and there are reasons for that. The first one I thought of,
and we know it's not the be all end all, but Melee sits at #6, Super
Mario Kart weighs in at #61 on the list. Only SMK was on the drop down list, and I *know* despite my bias that it's not the consensus favorite. In the games contest, no Kart entry made it in, but even more, Double Dash didn't make it in to Division 128. What were the Gamecube games that did? SSBM, Wind Waker, Metroid Prime. Division 128 was a *tough* division to get into, if you miss it it doesn't make you weak. Yes, Mario Kart DS is an awesome game, but I doubt it would beat Melee in a contest setting. Could you really picture Super Mario Kart beating FFX? Smash Brothers counters, and I think beats, Super Mario Kart 64 with Super Smash Brothers, and Double Dash with Melee. That leaves SMK, SC (bleh), and MKDS to make up the difference. But the thing is, as we've seen, older, more established series with more games *can* make up the difference. Yes, SSBM counters any single MK game, but most here believe MK64 counters any single MM game. Combined, though, we have this result. Also, I think Smash brothers has really taken on a much higher status with Nintendo and its fans. The gamecube might as well have launched with melee, and the wii could have, and probably should have. I don't think either the GC nor the Wii could have/could get away successfully with launching with the next mario kart. This is why I think SSB would take that match regardless and why I think it's stronger regardless, but without SFF I don't think it would lay waste to it -- I've always envisioned a 55/45 result or something along the lines of it. Which means if Sonic roughly equals Mega Man and there's negligible SFF here, then SSB is in trouble IMO. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 7/15/2006 12:10:19 PM | message detail |
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Roughly 80%. That's 19.9% lower than I expected! Good work. Poor, poor Corno. He'll never get a one seed over SNOIC or SMAUS at this rate. Samus > Crono >_>; --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz I admire MYC, for she is the pinnacle of human wit, poise, and beauty. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/15/2006 12:29:52 PM | message detail |
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What were the Gamecube games that did? SSBM, Wind Waker, Metroid
Prime. Division 128 was a *tough* division to get into, if you miss it
it doesn't make you weak. It doesn't mean you're weak, but I think it shows something about the current, recent preference. That gets countered with the old series doing better than newer ones, but I still strongly suspect Mario Kart isn't in SSB's league. Does Mario Kart get in this contest without Board 8 support? I don't know, but I feel that Mario Kart happens to be a good example of a largely board 8 supported contest entrant that turned out to be fairly strong. --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 12:33:52 PM | message detail |
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The BOP's prediction percentage for this match is 65.41%. What do you think the overall one will be? I'm expecting about the same thing, actually. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| swirIdude | Posted 7/15/2006 12:47:14 PM | message detail |
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I'm expecting about the same thing, actually. --- Xbox 360 melts disks! And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso |
| jonthomson | Posted 7/15/2006 1:07:32 PM | message detail |
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Match 15 - Elder Scrolls vs. Street Fighter A match that has caused some minor talk of upsets right here, mainly because ES apparently has some game out right now that is fairly popular. The only problem with that game is that people apparently won't recognise that it's part of the Elder Scrolls series because of how it's named. Bad beat. We've seen Street Fighter in the games contest and we all know what happened. I can't see the series being much stronger than SF2 itself to be honest, therefore it'll lose to anything with a decent amount of strength. ES does not have that and SF should get through to the last 16 in relative comfort, but not set the poll on fire. I think the result will be more than 60% but less than a doubling - that could come out to be a bit optimistic, but it's Street Fighter, isn't it? Oh well, at least we've got the moaning post lined up for if an upset happens. Bracket says: Street Fighter Favourites bracket says: Street Fighter Vote says: Street Fighter Prediction: Street Fighter with 64.44% Fun fact for the day: jonthomson believes that Dhalsim is actually top tier in SF2, and it's just people not knowing how to play with him properly that makes people think he's a bit rubbish. --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 1:10:00 PM | message detail |
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I agree. It's hilarious how people always refer to Morrowind or
Oblivion, completely shafting the Elder Scrolls part. I'm pretty sure
if the entrant was called "that one series with Morrowind and Oblivion"
it'd do better. Maybe not have a chance to win, but still. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/15/2006 1:32:55 PM | message detail |
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I'm almost certain that the Elder Scrolls picture will have something from Oblivion. I think it'd be stupid not to. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 7/15/2006 1:37:29 PM | message detail |
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Damn it, Mega Man needs to draw around 60% in the remainder of the
updates for him to clear 58.22%! Fight, Mega Man! That foul Ulti
mustn't have my victory! You know, it was probably foolish to up my prediction, now that I think about it. Such a hotly debated match I should've assumed 58.xx% would've been the highest. But I was so sure Mega Man could clear 60%! --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Lopen | Posted 7/15/2006 1:51:10 PM | message detail |
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Seems like the Mario Kart day vote might be over and Mega Man's
starting to get back into the driver's seat. Lookin' good with those
last few updates. What? What do you mean you're not interested? Mega Man must destroy Mario Kart! And then... hehehe... and then... Final Fantasy!! (no, that's not a serious prediction... wishful thinking!) --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/15/2006 1:52:29 PM | message detail |
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Well, it did clear 60% for a little while. And people need to stop falling back on the "Well, this one game would beat ANY ONE GAME from the other series." That's all well and good, but it doesn't have to beat any one game. It has to beat EVERY game. As we've seen so far in this contest, that's a totally different ballgame. I think this particular match is proof of it. I'd take Mario Kart 64 over any ONE Mega Man game, but this is different. For those of who saying SSB is stronger than MK (and it is), I'd also be so bold to say that Sonic would beat Mega Man as well, and I'd be confident about that match. He doesn't have as much dead weight to carry. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 7/15/2006 1:59:59 PM | message detail |
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Indeed it did. I saw it, too. I wasn't on the boards, but at my
friend's house I was screaming "DESTROY, MEGA MAN! 60%!!". Naturally,
they shared my enthusiasm, and no weird looks were given. ... >_> --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/15/2006 2:03:27 PM | message detail |
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At the 17:00 mark, this match has 83315 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time: Zelda/Civilization - 84217 Suikoden/Mega Man X - 79757 Metal Gear/Soul Calibur - 85323 Castlevania/Halo - 86221 --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 2:32:22 PM | message detail |
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This match is comparable with Metroid/Kirby...votals a little higher
thanks to Mario Kart being stronger than Kirby, naturally. But it's
just more evidence that Mega Man is Nintendo at heart (as if we needed
more). --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/15/2006 2:47:55 PM | message detail |
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Truthfully, I expected to see WAY more Mario Kart fanbaby crying than I am seeing here today. Guess the GTA and Halo crying wore them all out... --- Steve Illumina: Sage of Board 8, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by the Masses. Score: 14-0. Next Win: Street Fighter! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 2:49:16 PM | message detail |
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People don't care about Mario Kart as much. If Mega Man had lost there would have been MASSIVE whining. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 2:52:52 PM | message detail |
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Is there any possibility at all that MK could be the bracket favorite?
I mean, we know Megaman's terrible at that exercise, and Mario Kart has
the whole OMG IT HAS MARIO CHARACTERS IT'LL BE AS STRONG AS MARIO
argument many of those idiots love to apply to SSB. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/15/2006 2:54:33 PM | message detail |
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I gotta hand it to you Steve, you may just have a perfect bracket. Thanks boss! It sure would be one of the most amazing moments of GameFAQs lore... --- Steve Illumina: Sage of Board 8, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by the Masses. Score: 14-0. Next Win: Street Fighter! |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/15/2006 2:55:18 PM | message detail |
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Is there any possibility at all that MK could be the bracket favorite Yes, i think it will be with around 58-62% --- Steve Illumina: Sage of Board 8, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by the Masses. Score: 14-0. Next Win: Street Fighter! |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/15/2006 3:02:54 PM | message detail |
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Hey steve whats the rest of your picks cause I wanna know if maybe we have the same brackets. Well mainly Castlevania vs KH Sonic vs SSB RE vs SF |
| jonthomson | Posted 7/15/2006 3:04:49 PM | message detail |
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Steve has KH, Sonic and SF. One out of three isn't bad. --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 3:05:46 PM | message detail |
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Steve has been flaunting those three upsets since day one, so if you
have them too you'll be very similar. Depends mostly of what you've got
coming out of the Snake division as well as your champion. And ROLF at "part 316" getting modded TWICE. And we're not even there. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 3:06:02 PM | message detail |
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Steve has KH? Thought he had CV. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| jonthomson | Posted 7/15/2006 3:07:01 PM | message detail |
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Post 267 --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| jonthomson | Posted 7/15/2006 3:10:04 PM | message detail |
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And ROLF at "part 316" getting modded TWICE. And we're not even there. The daft thing is that on most sets of message boards, the topics moaning about the moderation would be dealt with more harshly than the initial topic. --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| Rodri316 | Posted 7/15/2006 3:10:56 PM | message detail |
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Why did it get modded? --- Best. Series. Ever. Score: 11/13 Prediction: Mega Man vs. Mario Kart |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 3:11:50 PM | message detail |
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Because it was Smurf. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/15/2006 3:17:02 PM | message detail |
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Hey Slowflake, I just realized that we so far haven't had any silly
argument fights about this contest yet. How are we going to solve this?
We can't just ignore a tradition this contest. :D --- 1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d |
| Kaxon | Posted 7/15/2006 3:17:33 PM | message detail |
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It's not Ceej's falt that Crono fans were stuffing votes. No, but it is Ceej's fault he let Mario's fans get away with stuffing votes in the rematch. --- Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 |
| Chinballz | Posted 7/15/2006 3:18:01 PM | message detail |
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You'd have to be totally blind to not notice Oblivion (and Morrowind)
is part of the Elder Scrolls series. I mean the words "Elder Scrolls"
are right smack dab in the middle of the freakin' cover, not to mention
they are present in the FAQ page link. And if for some reason you
didn't notice them then, you'd see them on the game's title screen. --- And that's The Word. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 3:18:10 PM | message detail |
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Hmm. Do you have Pokémon over Metroid or SSB over Mario? It'd make it way too easy for me to chew you out. :P --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/15/2006 3:20:22 PM | message detail |
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But people on the street aren't talking like: I just got the new Elder
Scrolls game, it's awesome. They just say: I just bought Oblivion, it's
freaking awesome. People like me who don't care about PC games have no idea that Morrowind and Oblivion is the same series. But I guess anyone who has played any of these games knows what Elder Scrolls is. --- 1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/15/2006 3:21:32 PM | message detail |
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Hmm. Do you have Pokémon over Metroid or SSB over Mario? It'd make it way too easy for me to chew you out. :P Nope :( I got Zelda winning it all, how about you? --- 1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 3:22:07 PM | message detail |
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That's true. Basically, this castrates any chance ES might have of
getting votes based on name recognition (i.e. among non-players). In
that aspect, SF will rake as huge a chunk of the vote as it did with
the Europeans against SMRPG. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 3:22:58 PM | message detail |
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Don't have a bracket, but I'd have FF if I did. And looking at the mutilation Diablo endured yesterday, I'd say you're screwed. ;) --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/15/2006 3:24:48 PM | message detail |
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Muhahaha just you wait when Zelda SFFs... I mean beats the hell out of your precious Metroid in a 70%+ fight :D --- 1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 3:26:46 PM | message detail |
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| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 3:27:21 PM | message detail |
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I know ;_; It's like this contest is designed to piss me off. Metroid?
SFFed to death by Zelda. Pokémon? SFFed to death by Metroid. Diablo?
Ewwww, that stinks. And to top it all off, Metal Gear is the "chosen
one" who's slated to accompany the big three in the Final 4. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Kaxon | Posted 7/15/2006 3:28:04 PM | message detail |
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For those of who saying SSB is stronger than MK (and it is), I'd
also be so bold to say that Sonic would beat Mega Man as well, and I'd
be confident about that match. He doesn't have as much dead weight to
carry. If there's one thing we've learned about this contest, it's that "dead weight" doesn't even enter the picture. You'd need a game that's absolutely despised for it to drag down a series that has several good games. (Hell, even the CD-i games don't hurt Zelda in the slightest.) Mediocre rehashes or spinoffs that most fans haven't even played? Not going to hurt much. --- Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 |
| Rodri316 | Posted 7/15/2006 3:29:56 PM | message detail |
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I'd say Sonic has more dead weight, especially with recent games. --- Best. Series. Ever. Score: 11/13 Prediction: Mega Man vs. Mario Kart |
| ccbfan | Posted 7/15/2006 3:32:59 PM | message detail |
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The stats for this contest is gonna be totally messed up. First its Zelda's division where every match is either SSF or fodder. Then you got the fact that Final Fantasy could possibly underperform against megaman but still get 55+ on Zelda. SEriously the X-states could have MArio Kart > Metroid and Megaman 20 spots higher than Megaman X. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 3:33:58 PM | message detail |
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I don't think anyone's going to take these very seriously once we go away from the Snake division. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |