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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 315

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/15/2006 12:04:06 AM | message detail
Quick! Somebody send CJayC a feedback ticket saying he's crazy for thinking Chrono can't beat most of the 2 seeds, and see if he replies!
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/15/2006 12:05:04 AM | message detail
FACT or FICTION: Mega Man has less than 50% of the brackets in this match.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/15/2006 12:05:28 AM | message detail
1000% Fiction.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 12:06:26 AM | message detail
FICTION. Mega Man has bad bracket support, but there's still enough people in the know to keep his ass over 50%. It'll probably be higher than the BOP percentage.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/15/2006 12:06:27 AM | message detail
I'm not too sure on it being fiction. Mega Man always has notoriously low bracket support and he's up against a Nintendo entity.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/15/2006 12:08:10 AM | message detail
Mega Man always has notoriously low bracket support and he's up against a Nintendo entity.

His bracket support has been bad because he's faced casual bait (Vercetti, Solid Snake, etc.). Super Smash Brothers is worse as far as casual underestimation is concerned, and I can't see any way Mario Kart has over 50% of the brackets.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/15/2006 12:09:21 AM | message detail
MMX had only 77% of the brackets against Suikoden. I wouldn't be surprised at all if MM gets less than 50%.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/15/2006 12:10:05 AM | message detail
SSB only had 81% of the brackets against Dragon Quest. At least Suikoden's been in a contest before.
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Aprosenf | Posted 7/15/2006 12:10:50 AM | message detail
I don't know if it's been mentioned yet (I don't feel like reading through everything right now), but my theory on why Mega Man is kicking so much ass right now is because it's freaking Mega Man!. Just like how Mario kicked Samus's ass because it's freaking Mario!.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 12:12:06 AM | message detail
Metal Gear is debatable, so I don't begrudge you any reasoning there. (and there's not much point debating a non-existent match like that) Resident Evil is - to be frank - a borderline joke.

Seriously, Resident Evil? A series that might be able to break 25% on Final Fantasy? I have real trouble taking RE>Chrono seriously.


I maintain RE got significantly SFFed by MGS in the game contest (as in more than FFVII SFFed MGS), and RE isn't even the strongest Resident Evil game even BEFORE RE4 is out (that honor far and away belongs to RE2). RE2, RE3, RE:CV, REmake, RE0, Outbreak, countless ports and spinoffs, and RE4 all on top of that...it's big; it's Capcom's moneymaker, and I've heard a lot of people say they'd take it over Mega Man as Capcom's top franchise here. It's certainly the most profitable.

CT is strong -- VERY strong -- but that's a helluva lot to go up against, as RE can claim loads in titles and a bunch in diversity, to boot. And I still probably take Chrono there, but if Chrono loses I'm not going to be staring at my screen in borderline shock wondering what the hell happened. It's got a major weakness, one that would hurt it against long-running established series like RE.
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Xuxon | Posted 7/15/2006 12:12:37 AM | message detail
And SSB only had 4% more against DQ as a 2 seed. Seedings just have a certain amount of influence on casual bracket makers. I would be shocked to see Mega Man get less than 50%.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/15/2006 12:12:49 AM | message detail
Yeah, but I'd think that Dragon Quest is a bit more recognizable to the casual bracket maker than Suikoden.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/15/2006 12:16:07 AM | message detail
And you'd think that the casual bracketmaker would know better when it's Super Smash Brothers. They don't. If it's not a main series, chances are they won't think much of it. I know that was my first instinct when I saw that match (should've stuck with it, too).

But Resident Evil 2 being far and away the favorite?

What's your favorite Resident Evil/BioHazard game?

4288 11.85% Resident Evil (Original)
8390 23.19% Resident Evil (GC Remake)
11112 30.71% Resident Evil 2
3426 9.47% Resident Evil 3
4416 12.2% Code: Veronica
255 0.7% Survivor
209 0.58% Survivor 2 Code: Veronica
261 0.72% Survivor 4 Heroes Never Die
361 1% Resident Evil Gaiden
3468 9.58% Resident Evil 0

I dunno. The two RE1 games put together outdo it, and RE2 doesn't even outdo the GC remake that handily.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 12:19:12 AM | message detail
Anyone who has played the original RE and the REmake can tell you they are probably more different from each other than any game in the series (barring RE4, of course). Although it's much closer all around than I gave it credit for...just gives credit to the series' diversity, I guess.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 12:23:05 AM | message detail
That's just a short time after the releases of REmake and Resident Evil 0, though...their recency probably overestimated them a tad.
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transience | Posted 7/15/2006 12:57:53 AM | message detail
well... thinking about it, I like Sonic over SSB now. when a series that I've always pegged as equivalent to Sonic goes 60-40 on a Mario side series, I'm impressed. SSB is stronger than MK, but probably not by very much, especially since it's a two-game series.

I wish the x-stats weren't so completely screwy, because I'm curious how MK fares against other mid-level opponents like MMX or RE.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 1:22:08 AM | message detail
All aboard the Sonic > SSB bandwagon! We're gonna launch this thing and ride it all the way into history.

Or crash and burn horribly. But either way, I'll look like a douche in the end!
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consolefreak | Posted 7/15/2006 1:23:29 AM | message detail
You guys aren't going to be perfect. CV is going to beat KH.

Agreed. Pretty comfortably too, I think.

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rpgapzx | Posted 7/15/2006 1:32:22 AM | message detail
SSB is stronger than MK, but probably not by very much, especially since it's a two-game series.

I frankly take the other side of this debate, though I finally think it's clear that everyone who is debating Sonic/SSB simply questions SSB's inherent strength. I just think that FFVII would have annhilated any MK 70+/30 and FFX/MGS2/Vice City all would soundly beat any MK with 60+. While the games' contest results doesn't exactly translate into series', it is clear in my mind that SSB >>> MK, not just by a bit,

I can settle for agreeing to disagree until we see in RII.


BTW, after today's match all of the Noble Nine's series will be undefeated(except to each other, of course)

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 1:33:39 AM | message detail
Noble Nine wins again!

...except for Crono of course lolololol
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/15/2006 1:34:21 AM | message detail
Crono is so screwed
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/15/2006 1:43:59 AM | message detail
And while I do think SSB is more popular than Mario Kart (for reasons spelled out in my "Why I Will Lose Faith In Sonic etc." argument), I don't think it's necessarily *that* much more popular than it, at least before SFF. Mario Kart is still far older, far more established, and has many more games to its credit that give it the power as a series. Yeah, individually it gets crushed, but you can work the same analogy with it and the MM games, and look what's happening right now. Having a bigger game doesn't mean jack if the series can't stand up to it.

That's what SSB is up against, and frankly it's hard for me to see it getting this much on MK. Not to call a lock for Sonic at all, or even call him the favorite -- there's no guarantee he's as strong as MM (though I'd bet he's stronger), and there's no guarantee that this match isn't SFF. Though if it's all legit, Sonic's chances look that much better...
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/15/2006 2:28:27 AM | message detail
Mario Kart actually came close to winning some updates there >_> Too bad it's already way too late for the match to be interesting
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SmurfX | Posted 7/15/2006 2:32:50 AM | message detail
Megaman wins. We all lose.

One of the best series of all time is shunned, most likely because it's sports related. It was actually sad the number of people on board 8 alone, whose first MK was the DS version. I expect GameFAQs follows a similar opinion. "wtf racing? stick to teh goombas mario".

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Mario Kart made the Mario series, and personally I would never have even tried out his other games if it wasn't for MK.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/15/2006 2:34:42 AM | message detail
I think the last thing on anyones mind when playing MK is that it's sports related.
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Psycho Kensou | Posted 7/15/2006 2:35:38 AM | message detail
"Megaman wins. We all lose."

Smurf says somehting correct for the second time in his life and it's for all the wrong reasons, or at least not the important ones. yoblazer leaving is more important than the fact that MK is actually the better series.
The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/15/2006 2:36:09 AM | message detail
I've only actually played one Mario Kart game. The first one.

But I still voted for Mario Kart. I'm actually a bit surprised that a series that had almost of all its good games on the NES is that popular. I thought that the average GameFAQs age would be a bit too young for that
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/15/2006 2:54:52 AM | message detail
wow, Mario Kart had an update if 0 and went from nearly doubling Mega Man the next 5 minutes..
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/15/2006 2:56:12 AM | message detail
"I thought that the average GameFAQs age would be a bit too young for that"

They are. Mos tof them are likely voting as if all MM games were one series.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/15/2006 2:56:27 AM | message detail
I'd imagine that was a poll glitch. Forgot to update Mario Kart's vote total.
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Rodri316 | Posted 7/15/2006 3:08:12 AM | message detail
Can I make Part 316?
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/15/2006 4:53:14 AM | message detail
Whoa! Mega Man is not even making this close. I'm really surprised it's this high -- I expected a 53% win for Mega Man -- but it's great to see it actually winning. This gives me more confidence about the upcoming Sonic/SSB. Everything is pointing to Sonic taking that one.

Looking at the updates, Mario Kart seems to be bringing down the percentage, which is good for my Crew prediction, but I'm unsure of how things will roll with the day vote. Mega Man generally has a good day vote, but Mario Kart just seems like it would do better with it here. Nothing to worry about, of course, since Mega Man has this completely wrapped up.

Awesome match. <3

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/15/2006 5:02:17 AM | message detail
I haven't read the topic yet, so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but...

Could this be a sign that Mega Man actually does have some very strong games? It might mean that stuff like MM2, MM3, and MMX would all do quite well in another games contest, maybe as well as SotN, and quite likely better than the stronger Mario Kart games.
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jonthomson | Posted 7/15/2006 5:16:28 AM | message detail
OMFG MK WON THE LAST TWO UPDATES, COMEBACK

lol mario kart more like mariowned kart. where's hogasm?

lol, fifty vote update win.

Er yeah, when's the next interesting match? CV pwning KH, am i rite?
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Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 5:17:04 AM | message detail
Wait, so what happened? CJayC said somewhere that Chrono had the noms for a 7-seed or what?
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/15/2006 5:18:24 AM | message detail
From the Daily Grind ...

"KleenexTissue50 asks, "Is there any particular reason Chrono didn't get into the Best Series contest? The nominations were obviously only open to board users, and I know for a fact that Chrono received almost as many nominations from the contest board as Final Fantasy and Zelda. It seems odd that a series whose first game almost won the Best Game Ever contest and who almost had a character win the last Character Battle didn't get into this contest over some series. Wow, that was a long-winded question."

Yes, yes it was.

People forget that the nominations are tallied up by machine count, and that spelling counts.

Going back now, if I tally up all the people who nominated both "Crono", "Chrono", and "Crhono" ... (does some math)... the game might have been a 7 seed, but still more than likely doomed for an early exit. Then again, that's not counting up all of the misspellings of all the higher seeded games, which means that it might not have made it in anyway.

Most all of the games that made it into the bracket had two (and often more) strong iterations, while Chrono Cross isn't nearly as well loved as the original."

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Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 5:20:57 AM | message detail
Ah, the Daily Grind. I really should check it more often.

But seriously, I don't think anyone would've minded if he pulled a deus ex machina and gave it a 3 or 4.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
Kaxon | Posted 7/15/2006 5:46:15 AM | message detail
well... thinking about it, I like Sonic over SSB now. when a series that I've always pegged as equivalent to Sonic goes 60-40 on a Mario side series, I'm impressed. SSB is stronger than MK, but probably not by very much, especially since it's a two-game series.

I'm still convinced that the Mega Man series would beat the Sonic series. Both of them draw their power from the old school days, and from what I remember of those days, the only advantage Sonic had over MM was marketting power. I had a Genesis and I thought Sonic was cool, but his games just didn't hold a candle to MM2 and MM3. Sonic has always relied on his character design and marketting to propel him, so it stands to reason that he would fare better against Mega Man in a character contest than a series contest.
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jonthomson | Posted 7/15/2006 5:58:56 AM | message detail
I'm still convinced that the Mega Man series would beat the Sonic series.

Not a chance. It might be close if it's every Mega Man game in existence, just the original series (or just MMX for that matter) loses 55/45 or worse.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/15/2006 6:02:13 AM | message detail
I'm still convinced that the Mega Man series would beat the Sonic series. Both of them draw their power from the old school days, and from what I remember of those days, the only advantage Sonic had over MM was marketting power.

He was far more popular, his games sold far better, he was once more popular than Mario, and his games were generally looked upon as being better. You can attribute those things to marketing, but there is really nothing that Mega Man has that is an advantage over Sonic, I don't think. I suppose one could bring up the sheer number of games that Mega Man has, which seems to help Castlevania, but there is not much more than that.

Personally, I would have a hard time imagining Sonic losing to Mega Man. Sonic's series seems to have the same "old school" deal as Mega Man, but his games just seem like they're quite a bit stronger and he has numerous ones that would do well in a contest setting, I think. It probably helps that Sonic has not completely disappeared from the gaming scene -- his games still pump out million sellers with every release. He looks fantastic heading into the next-generation, too.

The match would probably be pretty close, but I would be pretty confident in Sonic winning that match. I think Sonic has a good chance at finishing out the top 5 strongest series in this contest in the stats, too, which I think would be a bit harder for Mega Man, even with today's peformance taken into consideration.

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jonthomson | Posted 7/15/2006 6:04:11 AM | message detail
As an aside, who the hell is that just making 316? Without a Stone Cold reference?
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Slowflake | Posted 7/15/2006 6:04:39 AM | message detail
That was Smurf.

Of course, that's not the real one.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/15/2006 6:12:53 AM | message detail
It looks like Mario Kart is doing pretty well with the morning vote. It's taking away a good chunk of MM's percentage each update -- .05% for the past 15 minutes.

That's good for my Crew prediction at least!!

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Big Bob | Posted 7/15/2006 6:29:06 AM | message detail
Well, with this match is my second lost point, and I've given up winning the tournament. I now fully support any and all upsets.

Go Elder Scrolls > Street Fighter!
Go Pokemon > Star Ocean!
Go Castlevania > Kingdom Hearts!
Go Sonic > Super Smash Bros!
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Dark115 | Posted 7/15/2006 6:32:19 AM | message detail
Oh man, so much for that upset :(

So what would you guys take if it was: Mega Man X and Mario Kart?
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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/15/2006 6:32:30 AM | message detail
That was Smurf.

Heh. <3

Wait, Yoblazer left? WTF!?
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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/15/2006 6:36:25 AM | message detail
...God dammit. Bloody account bets. X_x that was the best chance I've had of seeing Chris leave as well, so double-blow :(

Anyway. Poor Chrono. Stupid mispellings. Him as a 7-seed would be very interesting, especially in the Snake division - Chrono vs. KH, potentially Castlevania, and potentially Metal Gear? Awesome.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/15/2006 6:37:03 AM | message detail
Mega Man X and Mario Kart?

Megaman X, easily.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/15/2006 6:38:22 AM | message detail
Chrono wouldn't beat Metal Gear, though you would have a ton of people who would take it.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/15/2006 6:40:12 AM | message detail
Chrono wouldn't beat Metal Gear, though you would have a ton of people who would take it.

I would take MG, but I wouldn't be super-confident in the pick.

Oh, and I want to punch steve illumina in the face. Is there a queue, or...? I mean, it's not because I'm jealous of his perfect bracket, he's just the prize ass.
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