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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 313
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| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/13/2006 3:20:55 PM | message detail |
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Am I the only person here who thinks Diablo can avoid a tripling barely? >_> --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/13/2006 3:26:10 PM | message detail |
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*points bladeofhiko to his post* I seriously don't understand what possible reason there is to think that diablo will be quaded. It simply isn't going to be that weak. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/13/2006 3:27:32 PM | message detail |
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I remember some people that suggested Final Fantasy might not even hit
60% a while back. Those kinds of comments are always good for a laugh. But yeah, I do think it's very possible for Diablo to avoid a tripling. The higher FF goes, though, the better. I would love for it to hit 80%+. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Lopen | Posted 7/13/2006 3:27:44 PM | message detail |
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I originally had Diablo barely escaping a doubling, but then I realized that might be a bit too generous. But I don't think it'll get tripled, no. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/13/2006 3:29:25 PM | message detail |
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Diablo getting over 40% is ridiculous, but so is FF getting over 80%.
If it did that, diablo would probably be one of the weakest series in
the contest. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/13/2006 3:33:44 PM | message detail |
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If it did that, diablo would probably be one of the weakest series in the contest. Not necessarily. It would just make Final Fantasy untouchable. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/13/2006 3:37:40 PM | message detail |
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Which it won't be. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/13/2006 3:38:41 PM | message detail |
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I don't expect Zelda or Mario to stand a chance of winning myself, so I suppose it depends on your definition of "untouchable." --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/13/2006 3:40:51 PM | message detail |
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LOZ will be hard to gauge in strength, since it got jobber fodder (as
KH would say) in round one, and has a potential sff match coming up
along with a definite sff match. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 7/13/2006 4:15:13 PM | message detail |
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Diablo does have potential to avoid a tripling and watch, if it did... all the noobs are going SMB > FF for sure.. --- Eagerly awaiting Final Fantasy XII! |
| cyko | Posted 7/13/2006 4:27:57 PM | message detail |
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Diablo WILL NOT break 30% tomorrow. case in point: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1653 Final Fantasy VII 71.3% 56861 Metal Gear Solid 28.7% 22884 TOTAL VOTES 79745 there is no way you could convince me that any Diablo games could take down any Metal Gear Solid games. and Final Fantasy the series is most likely even stronger than just Final Fantasy VII. so there is no way that Diablo will match MGS's numbers against FF7, even with battle.net. 25% is within the realm of possibility for Diablo, but i'm thinking it will get closer to 20 or 21% --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 4:29:25 PM | message detail |
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Poor, poor, SFFed Metal Gear Solid. =( --- Commit it to memory. |
| cyko | Posted 7/13/2006 4:30:59 PM | message detail |
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i'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, KH..... >_> if it is, then HA!! FF7 will dish out RPG SFF on Diablo!! so there!! --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/13/2006 5:15:03 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but isn't sff concerning mg/ff7 more of a recent theory than
anything else? I could be just remembering it incorrectly, but at the
time, I don't recall that being cited as a factor. And think of it
still, they were only on the same system, they aren't the same series,
and they aren't similar types of games, either. I also definitely
recall how much people here laughed at that one person citing
Sora/Snake sff back during the summer, so the idea can't have always
been neatly accepted. --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| shadow8021 | Posted 7/13/2006 5:16:15 PM | message detail |
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Sephiroth vs. Liquid Snake disagrees with you. --- Series Contest Score: 9/11 Today's Pick: Super Smash Bros. |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 7/13/2006 5:16:27 PM | message detail |
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How much sway do you guys think the support of Bon Jovi carries in these polls? I'd have to say at least eighty percent. --- Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances. |
| jonthomson | Posted 7/13/2006 5:19:17 PM | message detail |
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Poor, poor, SFFed Metal Gear Solid. =( Madden 93 and Super Mario World were both on the SNES. Madden would CLEARLY have got into double figures if it weren't for that blatant SFF. IT'S THE SAME CONSOLE, PEOPLE! Seriously, people need to stop throwing SFF around just because a game/character/series they like got owned. --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/13/2006 5:29:03 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but isn't sff concerning mg/ff7 more of a recent theory than anything else? No, it's been a theory almost from the start because of people (like me) who thought there was no way MGS could be weaker than MGS2. Seriously, people need to stop throwing SFF around just because a game/character/series they like got owned. I agree. FFVII/MGS isn't one of those cases, however. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 6:00:20 PM | message detail |
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I thought we had come to the conclusion of MGS long ago...don't tell me
that there's still people out there entertaining the idea of MGS2 >
MGS? --- Commit it to memory. |
| Phediuk | Posted 7/13/2006 6:23:53 PM | message detail |
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*COMPARISONS GAME- (1) Final Fantasy vs. (8) Diablo* Sales It's FF. Advantage: Final Fantasy Hype Final Fantasy: It's FF. Diablo: It's FF. Advantage: Final Fantasy Number of Games Final Fantasy: Main series- Final Fantasy (NES, 1990) Final Fantasy II (NES, 1988) Final Fantasy III (NES, 1990) Final Fantasy IV (SNES, 1991) Final Fantasy V (SNES, 1992) Final Fantasy VI (SNES, 1994) Final Fantasy VII (PSX, 1997) Final Fantasy VIII (PSX, 1999) Final Fantasy IX (PSX, 2000) Final Fantasy X (PS2, 2001) Final Fantasy XI (PS2, 2004) Spinoffs/ports- Final Fantasy (MSX, 1989) Final Fantasy IV Easytype (SNES, 1991) Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest (SNES, 1992) Final Fantasy I&II (NES, 1994) Final Fantasy IV (PSX, 1997) Final Fantasy VII International (PSX, 1997) Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon (PSX, 1997) Final Fantasy Tactics (PSX, 1998) Final Fantasy VII (PC, 1998) Final Fantasy V (PSX, 1998) Chocobo Racing (PSX, 1999) Final Fantasy VI (PSX, 1999) Final Fantasy Collection (PSX, 1999) Final Fantasy Anthology (PSX, 1999) Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon (WS, 1999) Chocobo's Dungeon 2 (PSX, 1999) Chocobo Stallion (PSX, 1999) Dice de Chocobo (PSX, 1999) Dice de Chocobo (WSC, 1999) Chocobo Collection (PSX, 1999) Hatakaru Chocobo (WS, 2000) Final Fantasy VIII (PC, 2000) Final Fantasy (WSC, 2000) Final Fantasy Chronicles (PSX, 2001) Final Fantasy II (WSC, 2001) Chocobo Land: A Game of Dice (GBA, 2002) Final Fantasy X International (PS2, 2002) Final Fantasy Anthology (PSX, 2002) Final Fantasy IV (WSC, 2002) Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (GBA, 2003) Final Fantasy XI (PC, 2003) Final Fantasy XI: Rise of the Zilart (PS2, 2003) Final Fantasy XI: Rise of the Zilart (PC, 2003) Final Fantasy Origins (PSX, 2003) Final Fantasy X-2 (PS2, 2003) Final Fantasy XI: Chains of Promathia (PS2, 2004) Final Fantasy XI: Chains of Promathia (PC, 2004) Final Fantasy I&II: Dawn of Souls (GBA, 2004) Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII (Mobile, 2004) Final Fantasy i (Mobile, 2004) Final Fantasy EZ (Mobile, 2004) Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles (GC, 2004) Final Fantasy IV Advance (GBA, 2005) Final Fantasy II (Mobile, 2005) Final Fantasy XI: Treasures of Aht Urhgan (PS2, 2006) Final Fantasy XI: Treasures of Aht Urhgan (PC, 2006) Final Fantasy XI (Xbox 360, 2006) Total- 59 |
| Phediuk | Posted 7/13/2006 6:24:15 PM | message detail |
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Diablo: Main series- Diablo (PC, 1996) Diablo II (PC, 2000) Spinoffs/ports- Diablo (Macintosh, 1997) Hellfire (PC, 1997) Diablo (PSX, 1998) Diablo II (Macintosh, 2000) Diablo II: Lord of Destruction (PC, 2001) Diablo II: Lord of Destruction (Macintosh, 2001) Total- 8 Advantage: Final Fantasy GameFAQs Status Number of FAQs: Final Fantasy: Final Fantasy- 33 Final Fantasy II- 9 Final Fantasy III- 17 Final Fantasy IV- 22 Final Fantasy V- 41 Final Fantasy VI- 55 Final Fantasy VII- 74 Final Fantasy VIII- 85 Final Fantasy IX- 90 Final Fantasy X- 102 Final Fantasy XI- 60 Total- 588 Diablo: Diablo- 10 Diablo II- 30 Total- 40 Advantage: Final Fantasy Average review score/Number of reviews: Final Fantasy: Final Fantasy- 8.48 (50) Final Fantasy II- 5.79 (33) Final Fantasy III- 8.71 (28) Final Fantasy IV- 9.00 (29) Final Fantasy V- 9.21 (42) Final Fantasy VI- 9.22 (58) Final Fantasy VII- 8.93 (94) Final Fantasy VIII- 8.09 (81) Final Fantasy IX- 8.45 (75) Final Fantasy X- 8.86 (118) Final Fantasy XI- 8.26 (31) Series average- 8.45 (639) Diablo: Diablo- 7.72 (29) Diablo II- 8.71 (48) Series average- 8.22 (77) Advantage: Final Fantasy/Final Fantasy Board activity: It's FF. Advantage: Final Fantasy Board Odds Project: Match prediction: Final Fantasy- 133 Diablo- 0 It's FF. Advantage: Final Fantasy Point value: Final Fantasy- 3595 Diablo- 0 It's FF. Advantage: Final Fantasy Previous contest representation Final Fantasy: SC2002- Sephiroth (2nd) Cloud (8th) Tidus (11th) Aeris (12th) Squall (20th) SC2003- Cloud (1st) Sephiroth (3rd) Tidus (13th) Aeris (15th) Squall (16th) Auron (20th) Yuna (34th) Ramza (38th) Kefka (52nd) Sp2004- Final Fantasy VII (1st) Final Fantasy VI (6th) Final Fantasy X (11th) Final Fantasy (19th) Final Fantasy Tactics (22nd) Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (26th) SC2004- Cloud (2nd) Sephiroth (3rd) Auron (12th) Vivi (18th) Squall (19th) Tidus (20th) Kefka (35th) Sp2005- Sephiroth (1st) Kefka (7th) Sin (18th) Ultros (20th) Kuja (28th) SC2005- Cloud (2nd) Sephiroth (3rd) Vincent (10th) Squall (11th) Tifa (15th) Tidus (24th) Vivi (27th) Rikku (28th) Auron (29th) Kefka (38th) Yuna (39th) Terra (47th) Zidane (49th) Cecil (52nd) Top 100- Final Fantasy VII (#1) Final Fantasy VI (#10) Final Fantasy X (#12) Final Fantasy VIII (#17) Final Fantasy Tactics (#19) Final Fantasy IX (#42) Final Fantasy IV (#50) Final Fantasy (#76) Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (#89) Diablo: Sp2005- Diablo (4th) SC2005- Diablo (33rd) Top 100- Diablo II (#20) Advantage: Final Fantasy Intangibles It's FF. Advantage: Final Fantasy Conclusion It's FF. 78%. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/13/2006 6:26:49 PM | message detail |
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I thought we had come to the conclusion of MGS long ago...don't tell
me that there's still people out there entertaining the idea of MGS2
> MGS? No, I was just under the wrong assumption that sff wasn't the accepted reason. It wouldn't make sense for mgs2 > mgs, but I'm uncomfortable admitting sff in a no same series, no same genre, no same company setting. --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/13/2006 6:59:16 PM | message detail |
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Man... I finally got caught up through part 311. Still one topic to read. Remember kids, Sonic says vote stuffing is no good! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/13/2006 7:01:01 PM | message detail |
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but I'm uncomfortable admitting sff in a no same series, no same genre, no same company setting. Well...what would you like to call it? --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 7:02:40 PM | message detail |
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Hell, at one point I was tempted to call it the MGS factor, until I remembered that Goldeneye got hit with it against OoT. --- Commit it to memory. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/13/2006 7:02:57 PM | message detail |
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the people who were vote stuffing via alts were GTA supporters,
yeah. they were doing so because it was in their bracket. I'm sure they
were also doing it to combat the WC vote-rallying. Also, I'd like to clear that one up, I was stuffing for two reasons, fun, and to combat what I feel is nearly as bad as stuffing, rallying. It had nothing to do with my bracket, as it was already dead. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| cyko | Posted 7/13/2006 7:09:30 PM | message detail |
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my internal compass also says that MGS HAS to be more popular than
MGS2. but something was screwed up somewhere. i doubt it was due to
splitting much of a fanbase in FF7 vs. MGS. however, i do have to award
a "Something Fishy Fishstick"
somewhere to account for some sort of SFF. maybe it was something weird
with MGS1? or maybe it was something fishier on MGS2's side of the
bracket? maybe because the vote totals were so low (75,000) and MGS2
had 40% of the brackets, bracket-voting played a bigger role in MGS2's
contest value than we thought. *shrugs* who knows for sure? either way, i still don't think Diablo is gonna be able to do as well against FF as MGS did against FF7 - something fishy or not. --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/13/2006 7:11:02 PM | message detail |
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Phediuk: I must commend you for those analysis u do and the game lists
especially. Pretty much my fav to read other than my own..cause it is
original, like my own :) --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! Contest Score: 12-0! Next Winner: FF |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/13/2006 7:11:58 PM | message detail |
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Keep in mind that Sephiroth/Liquid is another thing that points to a
FFVII/MGS sort of "SFF." Yes, Liquid and Frog were overrated, but
Liquid wasn't THAT overrated. Honestly, considering FFVII and MGS were two of the biggest games to be released on PSX, a fanbase overlap isn't all that surprising. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 7:13:32 PM | message detail |
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Nah, I think MGS2 is right where it needs to be...it being brought
lower while MGS remains the same would make it and the series as a
whole ungodly weak, and evidence points to the contrary on that. Plus,
there's still that whole Goldeneye thing -- you don't end up as weak as
GE in the stats and then make #7 on the Top Ten list...it just doesn't
happen. --- Commit it to memory. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/13/2006 7:16:35 PM | message detail |
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Why do people insist that the term "SFF" means something other than
"Same Fanbase Factor?" Honestly, with the way people are condemning
others from using it, you'd think it meant "Same Genre Company Factor."
SFF means there's an overlap in *gasp* the fanbase aka the people who
vote in these matches. Simply because a game isn't the same genre, or
made by the same company doesn't mean that there isn't going to be an
overlap in fanbase. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| cyko | Posted 7/13/2006 7:17:52 PM | message detail |
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i still prefer "Something Fishy Fishsticks!!" --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/13/2006 7:18:18 PM | message detail |
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lol fishysticks --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/13/2006 7:22:04 PM | message detail |
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150 perfects fell to Sonic...how many will be dumb enough to fall here to SSBM? 20 maybe? --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! Contest Score: 12-0! Next Winner: FF |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/13/2006 7:22:37 PM | message detail |
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At least one. There's a person with Dragon Quest winning it all on the leaderboard. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| cyko | Posted 7/13/2006 7:22:42 PM | message detail |
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i'm going with 37 perfects gone. --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| Nyah | Posted 7/13/2006 7:23:33 PM | message detail |
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Number of FAQs Diablo II: Lord of Destruction : 104 |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/13/2006 7:24:27 PM | message detail |
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At least one. There's a person with Dragon Quest winning it all on the leaderboard. They say fortune favors the bold...but not the stupid! --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! Contest Score: 12-0! Next Winner: FF |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/13/2006 7:26:16 PM | message detail |
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I don't know... I was surprised as **** by the amount of people who
actually thought DQ was going to win today. I'm tempted to say we'll
lose more perfects on this than we did on Sonic... but it feels so
dirty. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/13/2006 7:27:00 PM | message detail |
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Oh yes...meant to post this all day... Congrats are in order to ME! Not for my 12-0, soon to be 13-0 record...but for becoming the dream of every noob on this site, and every alt acct too...Elitehood Today me and my 700 Karma are gonna have a bottle of Molson and brainstorm ideas for my Round 2 Satires...always funnier than the first rounds since there are less matches to write about, allowing me to bash what is left to bash with more fluidity :) Less is more indeed, eh? --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! Contest Score: 12-0! Next Winner: FF |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 7:27:05 PM | message detail |
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I *really* don't think we'll lose more perfects on this than we did
Sonic...but I wouldn't be surprised to see similar prediction
percentages. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 7:29:11 PM | message detail |
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I'm not sure whether steve is being incredibly satirical, just doesn't
get what satire is, or is feigning one or the other. Either way, it's
kinda amusing. --- Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/13/2006 7:47:22 PM | message detail |
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Well, the Zero/Protoman match is another good piece of evidence. Of
course, Wily did place much higher than Sigma in the Villains Contest
stats, but Sigma went up against Bowser. Good point about Z/P, though that may have been SFF...hard to tell. As for Sigma, yes, he faced Bowser...but he also faced Andross, and nearly lost. I cannot feel more confident that Sigma barely -- if any at all -- suffered from facing Bowser. Uh, yes. It should win, and will win. Castlevania/Halo and Warcraft/GTA were iffy, but MM/MK, much like Silent Hill/Fire Emblem, is just another match being overrated by the board. Not FE/SH...but between the other six series mentioned in this post, the biggest game from each of their series are most likely stronger than ANY Mega Man game, much less the more-limited Classic games. C:SotN, Halo 2, WoW, GTA:SA, and MK64 are all games that I would take over any Mega Man game you name...and I would also take SMK and MK:DS to compete with any Mega Man game, too. I predict SSB has 76% of the brackets. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 7:51:09 PM | message detail |
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That's a nice argument HaRRicH, but after we've seen so far I don't
think having the biggest game out of two given series amounts to a hill
of beans if the other series' games are cumulatively stronger. I'll believe it when I see it. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 7:55:11 PM | message detail |
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I mean, exactly how well would most people expect the 007 series to
fare in this contest? It's got a bigger game than most of the other
series in this contest can dream of, after all. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/13/2006 8:05:29 PM | message detail |
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Ultima Division: Round 1 - Match 13 – (1)Final Fantasy vs. (8)Diablo Moltar’s Analysis Final Fantasy If you go to GameFAQs, and you haven’t heard of the Final Fantasy series, then that’s just a shame. FF7 is only the biggest game on the site! FFXI is the latest in the series. Diablo No, not the Diablo who rocked your bracket back in the Spring, but the series Diablo came from, Diablo! Both Diablo and Diablo II are popular PC games. Even the Blizzard Fanboys know when too much is too much (sometimes). There weren’t many debates over Sonic vs. Diablo back in 2005, because most knew Diablo just wasn’t strong enough to beat Sonic. Same with Diablo vs. Ganondorf, and the same here. The Final Fantasy series is not just big on GameFAQs; it’s gargantuan. Final Fantasy 7 is the strongest game on the site, and FF6, FF8, and FF10 are no slouches either. Back that up with the rest of the series, and it’s no wonder why it’s the favorite to win this whole Contest. So Diablo is pretty much done here and *rest edited due to WarCraft beating GTA. Srsly, it was only because of the rallying. I picked the true right winner, darn it!* Moltar’s Bracket Says: Final Fantasy will win. Moltar’s Prediction is: Final Fantasy: 77% - Diablo: 23% Ulti’s Analysis This is another case where a potentially strong series is being given the shaft by having a lower seed. I dare anyone to tell me that Diablo couldn't wreck people if it was in a better spot on the bracket. Anyway, this is the first stop on the Final Fantasy Victory Tour™. It may not LOOK like a champion in this match, but that won't matter until the finals. Prediction: FF with 75.24% Soul’s Analysis Oh man. Where do I start? Final Fantasy is the strongest series in this contest. In fact, the only series who has a shot against FF is Zelda. This is the first match of many in which FF should win by a rather large margin. Diablo was given an undeserved 8 seed. The Diablo series is going to be pretty strong, but sadly, it has no shot against Final Fantasy. I hope that it surprises a lot of people though by keeping FF in the 70s. My prediction: Final Fantasy wins with 76.42% of the vote. Mnm’s Analysis Battle Music: The Fierce Battle (FFVI) Final Fantasy is unsurprisingly the favorite to win this contest, although it won’t be the free ride that Sephiroth had last spring. Both SMB and Zelda have their eyes on taking out the Final Fantasy juggernaut. Final Fantasy’s goal in this match is to verify its strength, and Diablo will serve as an excellent measuring stick for it. I say that because unlike the fodder-like opponents that the Legend of Zelda and Super Mario Bros. were given, Diablo is actually a pretty popular series on this site. I admit that I know next to nothing about PC gaming, but I’ve upped my knowledge on them when it comes to a contest setting. Starcraft was a rude awakening for me in figuring out what PC games are popular on this site and which are not. And we’ve already gotten a glimpse of Diablo’s popularity through the strength of its character namesake. If Diablo the character can be a decent midcarder, then Diablo as a series is probably pretty strong. We’ve already seen the damage Starcraft can do in a contest setting, so even if Diablo isn’t as strong as Starcraft, it still will be formidable. Or it would be formidable if it wasn’t facing Final Fantasy. Too bad. Bracket: Final Fantasy Vote: Final Fantasy Prediction: 71.05% |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/13/2006 8:06:02 PM | message detail |
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Leon’s Analysis Diablo really got a raw deal in this contest. It could’ve done some damage if it had received some better seeding, but alas, that is not the case. Now it basically becomes the first step on the road to Final Fantasy’s championship. The series should at least do respectably here for what you would normally expect out of an 8 seed, but as far as being competitive, forget it. No knock on Diablo, since not many series could be competitive against Final Fantasy. In these contests, we’ve only seen Diablo the character. In the Villains Contest, he took advantage of the weak competition to make a run to the Final Four before getting destroyed by Ganondorf. He returned in the Summer Contest, where he had a lackluster win over Kratos Aurion before getting ripped apart even harder by Sonic the Hedgehog. However, this is Blizzard we’re dealing with, and the Diablo series has its fair share of rabid followers. While it may not be as popular as StarCraft (though who knows, Diablo II placed 20th on the Top 100 List, only two spots below StarCraft), it’ll be a strong series, which once again upsets me that it got such poor seeding and a bad draw. Of course, Final Fantasy needs no introduction. GameFAQs was basically founded upon Final Fantasy VII, and it’s still proven to be the site’s most popular game even to this day. On a couple of instances, it has been shown that perhaps one-fourth of the site considers it to be their favorite game ever, a ridiculous statistic, especially when you realize that 75% of the site has played it. That’s essentially saying that one out of every three people on GameFAQs who have played Final Fantasy VII think it’s the best game ever. Sure, there are some minor issues with such a statistic, but the point of its massive popularity cannot be questioned even so. Final Fantasy VII is already the site’s most popular game, so how much stronger can it get when you add the rest of the series on top of it? Well, that’s what we’re about to find out. This should probably be the strongest entry we have ever seen (and probably ever will see) in any contest. The Final Fantasy name carries power. On the GameFAQs Top 100 List, we have FIVE games from the series in the top 20 (counting Final Fantasy Tactics), seven in the top 50, and nine overall (counting Final Fantasy Tactics Advance). Basically, every major release since the series moved over to the Playstation made the list, except for Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy XI, and Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles (I’m not including the ports and re-releases of the older games, though Final Fantasy I and Final Fantasy IV both made the list as well). Basically, the series is really popular, as if you needed me to tell you that. This match is essentially going to be trying to show up the Legend of Zelda’s first round performance. It’ll be ugly. Leonhart’s Prediction: Final Fantasy with 76.90% Lopen’s Analysis What a waste… what a waste. My heart's just not in this match. Diablo's not a fodder series, it's not! But it's getting fed to Final Fantasy, and Final Fantasy's not a picky eater, it has an appetite for fodder and non fodder alike. Final Fantasy consumes all series, big and small. It is tyrannous, and evil… all but a lock to win the contest. Diablo will do better than we expect considering the opponent, Diablo's fairly popular here. But man, it's facing Final Fantasy! This is totally unfair! That's all I have to say! Lopen's Prediction: Final Fantasy with 71.66% |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/13/2006 8:06:44 PM | message detail |
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HM’s Analysis Final Fantasy – AKA “The Champion” – begins its road the championship with an easy match against Diablo. It would seem that Blizzard entries can’t seem to get any luck this year because both of them are up against considerably stronger series. That’s right, Blizzard Burned People, there is no sense in bringing up your silly rallies or united community when you’re up against a beast like Final Fantasy. This match should be an absolute breeze for the series holding GameFAQs’ favorite game. Diablo is certainly a strong series that deserved better than an 8 seed, but it still won’t stop it from getting absolutely pummeled in this match-up. A doubling in this match is guaranteed, but a tripling won’t quite happen. Even with Final Fantasy’s power, Diablo is still not something that will get completely wasted like that. So yeah, this match is just a stepping stone for Final Fantasy, as steamrolls the division and the entire contest. But when you combine Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy X, and Final Fantasy VIII all together – along with others – what do you expect? Heh. Aitch Emm’s Bracket Says : Final Fantasy will win. Aitch Emm’s Prediction : Final Fantasy 70% -- Diablo 30% Aitch Emm’s Vote : Final Fantasy. Yoblazer’s Analysis And here we have it: the overwhelming tournament favorite is finally set to take center stage. This is Final Fantasy's first opportunity to prove that it deserves its kingly status, and unlike the other two members of the Big Three, it's actually up against a legitimate series. Will the 1-seed's opening performance rival that of Zelda and Mario's blistering starts, or can Diablo cause some people to second guess the all-but-guaranteed Final Fantasy contest win? My money is on Final Fantasy to impress. As we have already seen, voters are favoring the older, more established series, and on GameFAQs, it's hard to find anything more established than Square's premier RPG series. Final Fantasy has all sorts of powerful weapons at its disposal. Most importantly, of course, is the GameFAQs trump card: Final Fantasy VII. This influential RPG has been our most popular game for nine years, and fans always vote for it in droves. Also, this will mark the first time that Final Fantasy VIII and IX, Square's other two million-sellers for the original Playstation, will be allowed some sort of non-character contest representation. In addition, Final Fantasy has FFVI and FFX. These are two of the most popular games from their respective generations, and they should do a great job of garnering votes from both the old school and newer fans. As if that weren't enough, there are tons of other Final Fantasy games, from the old to the new, from the console realm to the handheld realm, and all of them will be bringing additional power for the mother series to draw from. Let's not make the mistake of assuming Diablo is fodder; it almost certainly is not. Diablo 2 has a massive Internet fanbase, and Diablo himself has done pretty well in his contest appearances. Also, I'm writing this a few hours after GTA/Warcraft, so we just saw a Blizzard series surprise the hell out of most of us. That shows me that Diablo has, if nothing more, the definite potential to win a match in this contest. Sadly, that potential will not be realized. Final Fantasy + Strongest game on this site + Several other very popular games + Spans several consoles and eras + It's the backbone of GameFAQs + Credibility up the wazoo - Won't blow out fodder as effectively as Zelda or Mario, but that's hardly a big deal Diablo + Solid Internet fanbase + Blizzard!!!!! + Diablo the character has a decent contest history - None of that matters My prediction: Final Fantasy def. Diablo (79-21) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/13/2006 8:07:20 PM | message detail |
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HaRRich’s Analysis Predicted winner: Final Fantasy Top 100 List comparison: ---FF7 - #1, FF3/6 - #10, FFX - #12, FF8 - #17, FFT - #19, FF9 - #42, FF2/4 - #50, FF - #76, FFTA - #89 ---Diablo 2 - #20 Best Game Ever x-stat comparison: ---FF7 - 50% (Best. Game. Ever. champion), FF3/6 - 39.4%, FFX - 36.86%, FF - 32.24%, FFT - 28.69% (was behind FF7/MGS), FFTA - 24.27% (SFF'd by FFX) ---Diablo - N/A (no rep) Don't even bother telling me I shouldn't add the FFT games to FF's credit, by the way, unless you like acid in your pants. I'll go ahead and point out that FF is the big favorite of the contest, and we have already seen in two different ways that FF7 is this site's favorite game. Cloud was GameFAQs's favorite character in 2003, the year KH was released, and we've seen both KH2 and FF:AC be released in America this year. #1+#10+#12+#17+#19 > #20 and Starcraft > Diablo 2, according to the Top 100 List. Diablo 2 is almost certainly where most of Diablo's strength will come from, whereas FF can still survive nicely without FF7 (and FF7 easily beats Diablo). Diablo's shown that rallying for Diablo (the character) isn't particularly strong, though it's something to watch out for when it's facing opponents with a common strength... ...the FF series >>>>> M. Bison, however, and thus it is so that Diablo will have no successful under-dog run this contest. Final Fantasy wins with 70.12% Comments: Crew has FF winning. Interesting to note the predictions range from 70-79%. |
| Tai | Posted 7/13/2006 8:19:16 PM | message detail |
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Tai's Quarter-Ass Analysis Match: Final Fantasy vs Diablo Oh boy, here comes the BOP favorite itself; Final Fantasy vs a non-fodder 8th seeder Diablo. So yeah, I don't know where to access the BOP now, but as far as I remember, Final Fantasy is the BOP favorite to actually win the whole tournament. And, why not? Final Fantasy 7 won the Spring Contest in '04, Cloud won the '03 Summer Contest, and Sephiroth easily won the fixed (for the sake of the summer)'05 Spring Contest. There have been so many other Final Fantasy games and characters throughout the year, so of course anyone and their mom who's been on GameFAQs knows the series. What's not to vote for? Unless you're one of those FF haters who lurk GameFAQs, espeically Board 8, who wants to see FF's head on a steak.....>_>...<_<...what? I have FF winning too! Anyways, hope to see you whine about FF like you ceremoniously do every FF match. :-) Diablo? Oh, it's just some "series" I believe is in the genre called "RTS" with only the grand total of two games. Oh, it's from Blizzard, too. Who cares? Like Phediuk said in most of the categories of his statistical analysis, "It's FF." There's only two series in this entire contest that might be able to lay a finger on FF, and unfortunately for the poor little devil, Diablo's not one of them. Not by a long shot. A better question is whether FF will triple Diablo. Yes, it will. I give FF a 76.52%. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=579987 - Wanna report a TOS violation! Go to Snack Attack and we can help! |