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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 312

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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/12/2006 11:12:03 PM | message detail
Ever since getting the internet about ten years ago or so, I've never seen the need to subscribe to any gaming magazines. All the information I'd ever need for any game is easily attainable through this wonderful media outlet known as the internet.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/12/2006 11:12:33 PM | message detail
Stop throwing your money at Nintendo. They don't need it! Subscribe to my official GameFAQs contest magazine, with up to the minute X-Stats and predictions on who wins and who is so screwed.

All for the measly price of $11.99 per year. That's less than a dollar per month!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:13:12 PM | message detail
Man, with that extra penny I can get a thousandth of a gallon of gas!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/12/2006 11:13:26 PM | message detail
No new additions to all-time lists.

JULY 2006 TOP FIVE UPDATES

Largest Vote Gaps (by vote total)

Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Super Mario Brothers [108723] vs (8) Madden NFL [9186] - 99537
Hyrule Round 1 - (1) The Legend of Zelda [100386] vs (8) Civilization [11196] - 89190
Snake Round 1 - (2) Kingdom Hearts [81735] vs (7) Harvest Moon [30051] - 51684
Mushroom Round 1 - (3) Sonic the Hedgehog [81627] vs (6) Devil May Cry [33550] - 48077
Hyrule Round 1 - (4) Suikoden [28071] vs (5) Mega Man X [74424] - 46353

Largest Vote Gaps (by percentage)

Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Super Mario Brothers [92.21%] vs (8) Madden NFL [7.79%] - 84.42%
Hyrule Round 1 - (1) The Legend of Zelda [89.97%] vs (8) Civilization [10.03%] - 79.94%
Snake Round 1 - (2) Kingdom Hearts [73.12%] vs (7) Harvest Moon [26.88%] - 46.24%
Hyrule Round 1 - (4) Suikoden [27.39%] vs (5) Mega Man X [72.61%] - 45.22%
Mushroom Round 1 - (3) Sonic the Hedgehog [70.87%] vs (6) Devil May Cry [29.13%] - 41.74%

Most Popular Polls (by vote total)


Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Grand Theft Auto [63051] vs (5) Warcraft [64167] - 127218
Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Super Mario Brothers [108723] vs (8) Madden NFL [9186] - 117909
Mushroom Round 1 - (3) Sonic the Hedgehog [81627] vs (6) Devil May Cry [33550] - 115177
Snake Round 1 - (2) Kingdom Hearts [81735] vs (7) Harvest Moon [30051] - 111786
Hyrule Round 1 - (1) The Legend of Zelda [100163] vs (8) Civilization [11169] - 111582

Largest Individual Vote Totals (by vote total)

Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Super Mario Brothers - 108723
Hyrule Round 1 - (1) The Legend of Zelda - 100386
Snake Round 1 - (2) Kingdom Hearts - 81735
Mushroom Round 1 - (3) Sonic the Hedgehog - 81627
Snake Round 1 - (1) Metal Gear - 77522

Most Impressive Losers (by vote total)

Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Grand Theft Auto - 63051
Snake Round 1 - (6) Halo - 49930
Snake Round 1 - (5) Silent Hill - 43512
Hyrule Round 1 - (6) Star Ocean - 37387
Mushroom Round 1 - (6) Devil May Cry - 33550

Hardest Matches to Predict (based on percentage of entrants choosing the winner)


Snake Round 1 - (3) Castlevania vs (6) Halo - 31.49%
Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Grand Theft Auto vs (5) Warcraft - 33.94%
Snake Round 1 - (4) Fire Emblem vs (5) Silent Hill - 50.65%
Mushroom Round 1 - (3) Sonic the Hedgehog vs (6) Devil May Cry - 77.06%
Hyrule Round 1 - (4) Suikoden vs (5) Mega Man X - 77.84%

Super Smash Brothers is so screwed.

By the way, I think all the cache poll update errors are fixed in the stats.

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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/12/2006 11:13:38 PM | message detail
OMG that costs less then a cup of coffee a day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I WOULD LIKE TO SUBSCRIBE TO YOUR MAGAZINE.

>_>
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/12/2006 11:13:46 PM | message detail
The coolest thing I suscribed to was Playstation Underground. When the Playstation was still kind of new and they gave you news, trailers, and demos that you could actually play. Good times.
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transience | Posted 7/12/2006 11:14:08 PM | message detail
I saw someone say that DQ7 or 8 sold 600k copies in Europe.. combine that with Nintendo never doing all that great at this time of day and DQ's makin' a comeback!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:14:52 PM | message detail
Have you noticed that the average vote totals have increased in every division?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/12/2006 11:14:58 PM | message detail
C'mon Dairy Queen!
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/12/2006 11:15:16 PM | message detail
Just read everything...hot-damn. I was going to continue feeling decent for SSB as long as DQ didn't do something wild like crack 40%, and I was expecting SSB to get about 68%...but 78% instead? Hells yeah.

I'm not saying Sonic is out of it, but I wouldn't take DMC to easily get 60+% against DQ, and I've made my case for why SSB should be a good deal stronger than Halo and Sonic is plenty comparable with CV strength-wise. I hope the match is good, but I feel better about SSB > Sonic, at least...I'm not as positive about it as I was before the contest started, but I'm about as close back to it as I have been since.
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therealmnm | Posted 7/12/2006 11:15:27 PM | message detail
1996 was when I stopped with Nintendo Power. It had already been hard enough to keep up with Sega games outside of the mega-hits (I missed so many Sega gems). Once the Playstation arrived, Nintendo Power became obsolete to me as I needed to keep a tab on everything. Luckily, the internet was booming by then.
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Tai | Posted 7/12/2006 11:16:25 PM | message detail
lol @ hype-men who thought Sonic could beat SSB. XD
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/12/2006 11:17:16 PM | message detail
The internet is way better then any magazine anyways, since you can easily find multiple sources of information on a game, where one biased magazine article could lead you to think a sub-par game is worth purchasing.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:17:28 PM | message detail
Hey, Sonic is undefeated against Smash Brothers so far! Until proven otherwise, it has to be considered the favorite!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/12/2006 11:17:52 PM | message detail
More in reference to how highly Board 8 reveres the game and how much it expects from it. Honestly, from the way the board talks about its strength, you'd think it Ulti-style destroyed EVERYTHING in its division, not just MGS2.

Just to use this as a random example, btw, but ssbm gets bashed a lot, too. And it's not even the gameplay that gets bashed, many users feel it necessary to say that "this board overrates it to hell," "it's not nearly as strong as people think," "here at Nintendofaqs of course it's going to be strong." Super Smash Brothers Melee is not strong because it came from Nintendo. It's strong because it's an awesome game that came from another awesome game. The way people talk about "board 8's" love for the game, you'd think it isn't worthy of being enjoyed or appreciated by any larger coherent group. Or for that matter, isn't worthy of hanging around with any of these series in a credibility contest. Super Smash is a series deserving of the attention it gets here; it isn't popular because it sucks, and it's perfectly acceptable that it's many people's favorite game.

And that was a semirant at 2:15 in the morning, and...yeah.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/12/2006 11:19:00 PM | message detail
You mean in any related way, or just game-wise? 'Cuz, I mean, I can point out Sonic/Samus twice if you like.....
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:21:10 PM | message detail
Obviously, I'm not talking about characters who make cameos! Those don't count!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
HaRRicH | Posted 7/12/2006 11:22:35 PM | message detail
Master Hand only made a cameo then -- it had been in a Kirby game!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:23:10 PM | message detail
Master Hand only made a cameo then -- it had been in a Kirby game!

The Kirby game was a cameo! Kirby & the Amazing Mirror came out AFTER Super Smash Brothers!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:26:40 PM | message detail
There we go, Dragon Quest. Keep taking off large chunks, just like that. That's what I wanna see.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 7/12/2006 11:29:12 PM | message detail
this looks similar to DMC last night.. and Silent Hill.. and any number of underdogs. it's like the night voters hate things that are popular.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/12/2006 11:30:16 PM | message detail
Yeah, but really, would you think a friggin' glove?! fits more in a well-established fighting series of Nintendo's all-stars than in a cutesy platformer that Nintendo doesn't focus so much on? No. SSB may have come first, but Kirby is where home is for MH.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/12/2006 11:31:01 PM | message detail
To be fair, Japanese voters are more likely to vote now than any other time, I believe.
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creativename | Posted 7/12/2006 11:31:15 PM | message detail
Impressive by SSB so far.

Too bad...even with a slime picture it seems DQ might have trouble breaking 25%.

As for Sonic vs. SSB, SSB is still the favorite, as it already was. SSB is the favorite and an easy SSB win is possible whereas an easy Sonic win probably isn't. But I don't think that match is a given yet.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:32:08 PM | message detail
Yeah, but really, would you think a friggin' glove?! fits more in a well-established fighting series of Nintendo's all-stars than in a cutesy platformer that Nintendo doesn't focus so much on?

Yes, the glove is evil.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:32:59 PM | message detail
And for the record, Kirby can suck in Master Hand once he beats it, and guess what powers he gets? His SSB B moveset!

Cameo!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
HaRRicH | Posted 7/12/2006 11:33:44 PM | message detail
Wrong glove -- Crazy Hand is evil. Master Hand is merely misunderstood.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/12/2006 11:35:50 PM | message detail
Nope, it may have been inspired by SSB, but inspiration does not equ...

...yeah, Imma just quit right now, heh.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/12/2006 11:37:24 PM | message detail
.12% cut in 5 minutes

I smell a comeback!
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Super Smash Bros. vs. Dragon Quest - Bracket: SSB - Vote: SSB (9/11)
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/12/2006 11:37:38 PM | message detail
I don't think anyone here is haughty enough to hold anyone's individual taste against them...but honestly, you're nuts if you don't think this board overrates the living stew out of SSBM when it comes to contests.

Check the BOP here. As many people have SSB over SMB as there are people who have Sonic over SSB. That's ridiculous in the extreme, and if Sonic ends up winning the casuals may well end up humiliating Board 8. In the 10th Anniversary Contest, most of the board picked SSBM to get much higher than it did despite the fact that it ended up at exactly where it should have looking at the X-Stats.

It isn't that the game isn't great and that Board 8 overrates it, that isn't what most people mean when they say that at all. But Board 8 is only a small part of GameFAQs, and it differs. The most popular game on GameFAQs is FFVII, the most popular game on Board 8 is SSBM. That's how it is.

Frankly, I've seen nothing but the opposite here whenever the question of Sonic v. SSBM comes up here. "Sonic doesn't deserve to win because SSBM is better than every Sonic game put together!" in response to pro-Sonic statements, that sort of thing. I'd say Board 8 is far more culpable than any dissenters.

Glass house, ranting, etc.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:40:50 PM | message detail
We hadn't seen any sort of noticeable percentage shift from the beginning to the end of the match until yesterday. Will this be two days in a row?

Another .13%! Keep it up!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Draco1214 | Posted 7/12/2006 11:41:56 PM | message detail
Wow, SSB's percentage is dropping like a brick. I like!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/12/2006 11:42:05 PM | message detail
I'm actually not liking the fact that this looks like it might follow a day/night trend...SSB is likely to explode in the morning if that happens.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/12/2006 11:42:52 PM | message detail
Japan knows...

SSB is so screwed...

Anyway, when I wake up, hopefully it'll be close to my Crew pick, because I need to build a lead in both scoring systems!
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Super Smash Bros. vs. Dragon Quest - Bracket: SSB - Vote: SSB (9/11)
Lopen | Posted 7/12/2006 11:43:09 PM | message detail
Go, Dragon Quest! Bring it down to 75%! I need to win one!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:43:17 PM | message detail
Yeah, we thought that Sonic would probably explode in the morning. All it did was basically stall for a few hours before DMC proceeded to take off percentage until the end of the match.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 7/12/2006 11:43:38 PM | message detail
Frankly, I've seen nothing but the opposite here whenever the question of Sonic v. SSBM comes up here. "Sonic doesn't deserve to win because SSBM is better than every Sonic game put together!" in response to pro-Sonic statements, that sort of thing. I'd say Board 8 is far more culpable than any dissenters.

that's because there's nothing else to say. what are you going to say about a series that has a whopping two games?

honestly, I felt the match was a tossup and went for SSB because Mario > Sonic here and that may come into play. it's the ultimate quality vs. quantity matchup.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/12/2006 11:44:23 PM | message detail
QUICK WITHOUT THINKING: Dragon Quest versus Fire Emblem. Who wins?
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Tai | Posted 7/12/2006 11:44:24 PM | message detail
I'm honestly going to laugh when SSB eats Sonic for lunch. XD
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Tai | Posted 7/12/2006 11:44:40 PM | message detail
FE

Nintendo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/12/2006 11:45:08 PM | message detail
Um...Fire Emblem. That's *way* without thinking though, so I'd suggest not even considering it.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:46:57 PM | message detail
I'd probably say Fire Emblem, but thinking about Silent Hill > Dragon Quest makes me feel dirty.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 7/12/2006 11:47:48 PM | message detail
I was thinking about this earlier and figured I'd take Fire Emblem. DQ > SH though.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/12/2006 11:47:49 PM | message detail
DQ's still got room to breathe in there, though...it's not like FE/SH was really close or anything.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/12/2006 11:48:35 PM | message detail
But let's hope Metal Gear gets 80% on Fire Emblem!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/12/2006 11:48:37 PM | message detail
In the 10th Anniversary Contest, most of the board picked SSBM to get much higher than it did despite the fact that it ended up at exactly where it should have looking at the X-Stats.

SSBM > FFVI in the stats? Good to know.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/12/2006 11:50:41 PM | message detail
Bah, FFVI slipped my mind. I kind of phrased that poorly.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/12/2006 11:50:56 PM | message detail
Eh? People would take FE over DQ? I'd expect something like 65% for DQ in a match like that. FE is one of the weakest entries in the contest. MGS will likely go 80%+ on it. 86%, I'd say.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/12/2006 11:51:19 PM | message detail
SSBM > FFVI in the stats? Good to know.

Statistically, they're pretty close, and with the Nintendo boost coming into effect, SSBM/FFVI becomes a toss up (stats-wise).
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/12/2006 11:51:25 PM | message detail
DQ's still got room to breathe in there, though...it's not like FE/SH was really close or anything.

True, but then it becomes close enough to think about SH > DQ.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden