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Tai | Posted 7/13/2006 1:11:57 PM | message detail
And SSB continues to gain. :D
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 1:13:47 PM | message detail
SSB's been around 76.1% for a while now.

And if Sonic manages to pull off the upset I think Tai's reaction will make it infinitely more tolerable for those that picked SSB.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/13/2006 1:15:21 PM | message detail
TAI'D UP AND *****ING

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Tarrot | Posted 7/13/2006 1:37:17 PM | message detail
"*sigh* Mega Man is not all that old school. MM1 is not even three years older than SMK."

1: Mega Man came out on the NES. It had 5 sequels on the NES. By that fact alone, it's old school.

2: MM1 came out Dec. 87. Super Mario Kart came out September 92. That's nearly a 5 year difference in age, not less than 3 as you'd say.

3: To put it in perspective, Mega Man V came out in December 92, a couple months after SMK came out. Considering the release of the games, and that there were 4 games before SMK, Mega Man is pretty ****ing old school.
rpgapzx | Posted 7/13/2006 1:37:49 PM | message detail
FACT or FICTION: If Mega Man's games had been cross systemed every step of the way (ie. Mega Man's on Sega Genesis, N64, etc.) Megaman > Samus.

FACT or FICTION: Megaman would also win 60+/40 on Saturday with that same arrangement.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 1:38:27 PM | message detail
Mega Man already > Samus you silly goose.

...in a direct matchup, anyway!
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Phediuk | Posted 7/13/2006 1:40:23 PM | message detail
Wait, since when does old school=instant win? Do you not see the results of today's match?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 1:41:33 PM | message detail
I'm pretty sure the majority of voters don't even know what DQ *is*. It's the same way Nintendo doesn't = instant win (as MG/FE will show us next round).
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KamikazePotato | Posted 7/13/2006 1:41:41 PM | message detail
Megaman/Mario Kart is like Fire Emblem/Silent Hill for me. Mario Kart might win, simply because it's untested data, but common sense simply tells me to pick Megaman. Hey, it worked for FE.

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Tai | Posted 7/13/2006 1:42:48 PM | message detail
Megaman/Mario Kart is like Fire Emblem/Silent Hill for me. Mario Kart might win, simply because it's untested data, but common sense simply tells me to pick Megaman. Hey, it worked for FE.

Common sense? >_>

So you think Megaman should win?
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Big Bob | Posted 7/13/2006 1:42:58 PM | message detail
I picked MK because of the success of MKDS.
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steve illumina | Posted 7/13/2006 1:43:58 PM | message detail
Silly noobs... Mega Man will win because everyone who loves Mega, Mega X, Zero, Proto, Dr. Wily, and so forth and so on will vote for both MMX and MM in this tourney. Mario Kart just dont got the stuff.

Infact, only Zelda, Mario Bros, and FF are the only series here that could (and will) take out MMX and MM... Metroid? Nope its overrated. Metal Gear? Nope, but it would be close. RE? HAHAHAHA Yah right kiddies.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 1:45:16 PM | message detail
On the flip side, if MK ends up walloping MM steve's reaction might be fun to see.
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LoopZoopTheBest | Posted 7/13/2006 1:45:35 PM | message detail
Every time I hear MMX > MM based on that stupid poll I feel like jabbing myself in the eye with a rusty spoon. Indirectly I take it every time.

Well, the Zero/Protoman match is another good piece of evidence. Of course, Wily did place much higher than Sigma in the Villains Contest stats, but Sigma went up against Bowser.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 7/13/2006 1:45:38 PM | message detail
Common sense? >_>

So you think Megaman should win?


Uh, yes. It should win, and will win. Castlevania/Halo and Warcraft/GTA were iffy, but MM/MK, much like Silent Hill/Fire Emblem, is just another match being overrated by the board.

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steve illumina | Posted 7/13/2006 1:46:07 PM | message detail
Haha

And you would see it if it happened...my perfect bracket gone...the noobs and fanbabies rejoicing...

Perish the thought!
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/13/2006 1:46:21 PM | message detail
Mega Man/Mario Kart better have a damn good pick. This could be a match for the ages.
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LoopZoopTheBest | Posted 7/13/2006 1:47:04 PM | message detail
Don't you usually do a pretty bad job at predicting these contests, steve?
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/13/2006 1:49:14 PM | message detail
Mega Man already > Samus you silly goose.

...in a direct matchup, anyway!



lolxstats!

Post Nintendo Boost:
Clinkeroth>>>Mario>Samus>Crono>Megaman.

If MML2 and MM X4-whatever # it is are on PS and MMX-X3, 7, 8, and soccer are on Genesis, and etc. do we see...
Mario>MM>rest of Noble 9!?

OMFG! In 2002, MM>Sephiroth!!!
Then he beats Samus and jobs to Link in the semis!
Then HM doesn't say "MM>Link" in 2004!

Stupid Capcom. Missed out on extra profits and changing the course of Board 8's history.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 1:50:12 PM | message detail
Well, the Zero/Protoman match is another good piece of evidence.

Not really. Zero and Protoman, despite their apparent similarities, are about as far apart as you can get. Zero is the super-uber badass with a sword that is PLAYABLE in X3 and up, Protoman is far less prominent and is not playable in the main series.

Of course, Wily did place much higher than Sigma in the Villains Contest stats, but Sigma went up against Bowser.

Yeah, but Sigma also bombed against Andross. I don't see Monkey-head being that close to Ocelot, frankly.
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Tai | Posted 7/13/2006 1:51:32 PM | message detail
Silly noobs... Mario Kart will win because everyone who loves Mario, Luigi, Peach, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Dry Bones, Wario, Waluigi, Toad, and R.O.B, and Daisy will vote for Mario Kart in this tourney. MM just dont got the stuff.

Lolol see what I did there?

Metroid? Nope its overrated.

MM's overrated and will be exposed soon enough. :-))))
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 1:53:58 PM | message detail
Silly X-Stats. Mega Man has already shown he can get SFF on Nintendo characters, arguably getting more on Yoshi than Mario could get. I can't see Ms. "I Can't SFF Anything" overcoming Mr. "I Was Adopted By Nintendo At Birth"

Mega Man > Samus if they meet in 2k6. Believe it!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 1:57:13 PM | message detail
lol karma hunter more like heroic karma hunter
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LoopZoopTheBest | Posted 7/13/2006 2:00:54 PM | message detail
Could be a very debated match, but I'd take Samus. Nintendo at birth and still on the big N's team. Unless you think Mega Man really can SFF her enough to take it, Samus's 2004 match against Sonic is pretty tough evidence to overlook.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/13/2006 2:00:58 PM | message detail
So are we talking about another A > B > C > A situation here?

A. Crono
B. Mega Man
C. Samus Aran
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/13/2006 2:01:45 PM | message detail
Mario Kart might win, simply because it's untested data

So are Mega Man games.

And don't forget Koopa Troopa, Tai.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/13/2006 2:01:51 PM | message detail
Samus's 2004 match against Sonic is pretty tough evidence to overlook.

I have a hard time believing she'd get that much if that match took place again. Sonic got noticeably stronger in 2005.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/13/2006 2:02:11 PM | message detail
Why do people keep saying Samus can't SFF anything? Ganondorf's below ZELDA in the Xstats for crying out loud!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 2:03:44 PM | message detail
Why do people keep saying Samus can't SFF anything? Ganondorf's below ZELDA in the Xstats for crying out loud!

There's still the whole idea of Mario rSFFing Samus, y'know...

And many don't buy Ganon being stronger than Zelda, either, or at least able to take her in a direct matchup.

I do think Samus SFFed him a tad, but Ganon is such a leech I think that would be unavoidable in any Ninty matchup with him.
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LoopZoopTheBest | Posted 7/13/2006 2:04:22 PM | message detail
Ganondorf could be weaker than Zelda!

Hey, as long as we're making bold claims about possible SFF matches... Zelda over Ganondorf. Not just guaranteed to happen, but guaranteed to happen easily.
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/13/2006 2:04:29 PM | message detail
Predict the post TP Fourpack:

1 Sonic
4 Ganondorf

3 MM
2 Samus
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/13/2006 2:04:41 PM | message detail
How the ****....Mario rSFF'd Samus my ass >_>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 2:04:46 PM | message detail
And you say 'below ZELDA' like it's something noticeable. It's dead-even.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 2:06:27 PM | message detail
Sonic > Mega Man

TP will only give Ganon a shot at Snake. Anyone else is simply too established. The Elite Eight is far less likely to break than the Noble Nine, at least until 2k7.
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LoopZoopTheBest | Posted 7/13/2006 2:08:15 PM | message detail
Samus > Sonic

I have a very hard time believing that Mega Man could SFF Samus, and he needs to in order to win that match.
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transience | Posted 7/13/2006 2:12:23 PM | message detail
DQ is making CT look good here with the day vote. damn.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/13/2006 2:13:23 PM | message detail
Why do people keep saying Samus can't SFF anything? Ganondorf's below ZELDA in the Xstats for crying out loud!

Actually, if you look at Diablo, it doesn't look like Ganondorf suffered much SFF.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/13/2006 2:13:52 PM | message detail
Ganondorf was barely above Bowser, who proved to be on Snake's level last contest. Zelda got beaten by Snake 55-45. Of course Ganon's stronger.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 2:14:41 PM | message detail
And Ganondorf being that close to Zelda certainly isn't without precedent. If you factor in that Magus was overrated in 2k3, it's likely that they were on the same level then, too.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/13/2006 2:15:16 PM | message detail
That depends on how credible you take those matches against Sephiroth. Even Bowser in SC2K5 (with nothing to suggest he's underrated by the stats) wouldn't be expected to pull a repeat performance of 40% on Sephy.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 2:15:26 PM | message detail
Ganondorf was barely above Bowser, who proved to be on Snake's level last contest. Zelda got beaten by Snake 55-45. Of course Ganon's stronger.

If you take the Villains Contest results blindly, which I don't.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/13/2006 2:18:01 PM | message detail
Of course I wouldn't take them to get 40% on Sephiroth NOW, post-Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts II.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/13/2006 2:19:32 PM | message detail
1: Mega Man came out on the NES. It had 5 sequels on the NES. By that fact alone, it's old school.

2: MM1 came out Dec. 87. Super Mario Kart came out September 92. That's nearly a 5 year difference in age, not less than 3 as you'd say.

3: To put it in perspective, Mega Man V came out in December 92, a couple months after SMK came out. Considering the release of the games, and that there were 4 games before SMK, Mega Man is pretty ****ing old school.


1. Yoshi had a game on the NES, but he's certainly not old school.

2. Japanese release dates don't matter.

3. Five games in three years is worse than five games in thirteen years.

That depends on how credible you take those matches against Sephiroth. Even Bowser in SC2K5 (with nothing to suggest he's underrated by the stats) wouldn't be expected to pull a repeat performance of 40% on Sephy.

I'm sorry, how does that make Bowser stronger than Ganondorf?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 2:23:11 PM | message detail
I'm sorry, how does that make Bowser stronger than Ganondorf?

It doesn't, but it suggests an overperformance on Sephiroth in the Villains Contest. If Ganon overperformed as well, it throws his placing into doubt -- a proportional overperformance for both is hardly a given.

There's also Diablo, which, if you extrapolate through him in the Villains Contest and 2k5, makes Ganon seem significantly less beastly.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/13/2006 2:24:52 PM | message detail
I'm sorry, how does that make Bowser stronger than Ganondorf?

I never said it did. I'm just saying that it's possible that they both had overperformances on Sephiroth, and just because Ganondorf overperformed slightly moreso doesn't automatically mean he's stronger.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/13/2006 2:27:05 PM | message detail
There's also Diablo, which, if you extrapolate through him in the Villains Contest and 2k5, makes Ganon seem significantly less beastly.

I prefer extrapolating through CATS, thank you very much. After all, he did predict the winners of 2k3 and 2k4. Using him makes G-dorf look even better.

I never said it did. I'm just saying that it's possible that they both had overperformances on Sephiroth, and just because Ganondorf overperformed slightly moreso doesn't automatically mean he's stronger.

But...there's not really any indication that he overperformed more.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/13/2006 2:27:53 PM | message detail
Other than their Summer Contest performances, of course.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 2:27:59 PM | message detail
I prefer extrapolating through CATS, thank you very much. After all, he did predict the winners of 2k3 and 2k4. Using him makes G-dorf look even better.

Except CATS is behind Master Chief. I trust Sonic far more than the Chief, thank you very much.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/13/2006 2:28:33 PM | message detail
Sonic > Mega Man > Samus > Mario Kart > SSB >>>>>>>>> Ganondorf
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Tai | Posted 7/13/2006 2:28:43 PM | message detail
MK > MM.
SSB > Sonic.

Book. It.
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