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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 311
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| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/11/2006 9:20:36 PM | message detail |
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And yes, I sent a feedback ticket. Shut up. >>; --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/11/2006 9:21:14 PM | message detail |
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Okay, I'm not plowing through all that just to see what happened. Quick summary plz? Oh, and I did not expect a blowout of this magnitude for Sonic. Looks like Sonic's series is a lot more popular than him than you could say for Dante vs. DMC, judging by the Sonic/Dante match. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 9:21:37 PM | message detail |
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WC wins with 50.69% after subtraction, I think. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 7/11/2006 9:22:38 PM | message detail |
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Man I would absolutely love to see Sonic beat SSB... --- Can't think of a good sig. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 9:22:40 PM | message detail |
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Oh, but if the stuffing wasn't counted in the first place, then I guess the percentages are legitimate. --- Commit it to memory. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/11/2006 9:23:27 PM | message detail |
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This is a great contest, even though I wanted Warcraft to lose so badly. I'll hand it to those guys, they know how to rally. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 9:23:31 PM | message detail |
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Sonic's leaking a bit of percent, though he could rise back to a tripling if he gets any kind of a day vote. lol day vote --- Commit it to memory. |
| creativename | Posted 7/11/2006 9:24:07 PM | message detail |
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that's a helluva lot of votes from alts though. That's what I thought too. 50 votes per banned user...who the hell has time to make that many alts? Very surprising to me. As for the votes not being removed, "all the fraudulent votes we caught put together would have added just 600 votes for GTA" The "would have" seems to imply they were removed. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/11/2006 9:24:22 PM | message detail |
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I don't think he counted the stuffing. He did say that if the fraudlent
votes were counted, it would only add up to 600, meaning that he
already removed them. --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Sonic vs. Devil May Cry - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (8/10) |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 9:25:45 PM | message detail |
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Well, look at it!!! It's the combined power of Sonic, Shadow, and
Knuckles all put into one! Who's the Noble Niner? Sonic. King of the
Day Vote? Knux. Weird-ass overcompensating flukey proxy boy? Shadow. SSB is so screwed --- Commit it to memory. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/11/2006 9:25:51 PM | message detail |
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Wait, so someone was caught cheating... for GTA?!? ROFLMAO --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/11/2006 9:26:55 PM | message detail |
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More than 1 person... 13 users got axed for egregious vote stuffing (i.e. can't even begin to argue it was accidental, or that their brother, cousin, friend, and dog just happened to vote on the same computer). 12 of them were stuffing for GTA. That's...really sad. --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Sonic vs. Devil May Cry - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (8/10) |
| Big Bob | Posted 7/11/2006 9:27:18 PM | message detail |
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*uses this post to gloat about being #3 in the Oracle Challenge* ...Okay, that's enough. I had Sonic beating DMC 60-40 anyway, so I'll drop after this match. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/ImBigBob/PokemonvsMetroid.jpg |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/11/2006 9:27:32 PM | message detail |
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And the Blizzard game is INNOCENT?! Double the humor!!! --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 9:27:47 PM | message detail |
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Wait, so someone was caught cheating... for GTA?!? At least two of them were Board 8ers (Sess and EC). Probably more. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/11/2006 9:28:18 PM | message detail |
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Did I read that right? 12 of the 13 people caught cheating were
stuffing votes for GTA? Hopefully this subdues the cheating complaints.
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| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/11/2006 9:29:25 PM | message detail |
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The cheating Ceej caught was alternate account vote
stuffing, not stuffing with proxy votes. Somehow, I get the feeling he
set up some automatic detectors and didn't really dig through the votes
manually. At least, not as much as he generally would. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Chinballz | Posted 7/11/2006 9:31:10 PM | message detail |
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A DMC2 pic for Dante? That can't help. Not that a better one would. --- And that's The Word. |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/11/2006 9:31:33 PM | message detail |
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^Is there a way to detect proxy votes? --- bnet ID: KailaYu |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/11/2006 9:32:29 PM | message detail |
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CJay found some in the past. So obviously there is. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/11/2006 9:34:08 PM | message detail |
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Fun fact: the casual's Holy Trinity (Halo, GTA, Madden) has been wiped out in four short days. When we say GameFAQs' audience is unlike any other, we MEAN it. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/11/2006 9:34:19 PM | message detail |
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^Is there a way to detect proxy votes? Yeah. As far as I know, the way proxy voting works is by using IP adresses that exist solely for proxy use. If Ceej sees a bunch of commonly used proxy IPs, he knows there was proxy voting. But I really don't know much about computers. In other news, this match is currently on track for six billion votes! --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/11/2006 9:34:24 PM | message detail |
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It is a beautiful day... I am one of 1218 or so remaining perfects and probably the only Board 8 analyst user of them all... GTA has fallen, aided by failed cheaters (a great irony, considering every Tommy Boy noob and their sister's cousin's mama called every Warcraft vote a cheat vote... Halo has fallen, aided by nobody, betrayed by the Xbox-ites who voted with their heads and not their hearts... Ulti and the other pseudo-analysts have been proven wrong twice in the span of a week, jumpin all over eachother's imitated picks so fast that the bandwagon derailed off the tracks... The Sage of Board 8...the satirical one...is 10-0...may as well say 11-0 now, and soon to be 16-0...and I just know it eats away at all the kiddies who think the better game is the one where driving around running over people and taking their cars is supposed to be enthralling...and all the worshippers of the duet that stuck a nail in the GameCube's coffin back in 2001 or whenever Halo came out cause I am too lazy to look now... All the bad picks...all the ways the newbies and fanbabies banded together to break my bracket...well it aint happenin this time...at least not yet... Now where is Tequilla...? I need some more Cuervo...gotta go back out and run around in my Orc Helmet some more! :) --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/11/2006 9:35:32 PM | message detail |
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Remember all of those times GTA won several updates in a row, followed
by a Warcraft win because GTA suddenly dropped severely in votes? I'm
thinking that some of those drops were due to votes being taken away. Also, does it look to anyone else that Dante's giving up in that picture? He looks like he's about to cry... --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| transience | Posted 7/11/2006 9:36:02 PM | message detail |
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the people who were vote stuffing via alts were GTA supporters, yeah.
they were doing so because it was in their bracket. I'm sure they were
also doing it to combat the WC vote-rallying. proxy voting is different though. people who don't have an account on the site could do that and not be banned. there wouldn't even be a punishment for it. --- xyzzy |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/11/2006 9:36:49 PM | message detail |
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Also, does it look to anyone else that Dante's giving up in that picture? He looks like he's about to cry... It's called DEVIL MAY CRY. What do you expect? --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| creativename | Posted 7/11/2006 9:39:41 PM | message detail |
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As far as I know, the way proxy voting works is by using IP adresses
that exist solely for proxy use. If Ceej sees a bunch of commonly used
proxy IPs, he knows there was proxy voting. But I really don't know
much about computers. Not really; the IP addresses that are public proxies are ever-changing (there's a whole industry on people selling the latest lists of active public proxies). And if multiple people try voting from the same proxy IP it wouldn't work anyway. Some proxies send the forwarding IP address and those are easy to catch, but many are anonymous and there's no way to detect they are proxies for sure that I know of. But they do tend to be from Asian countries, and European places like Russia and Romania. Ceej might have some real neat and creative technique he uses. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/11/2006 9:40:22 PM | message detail |
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where is cyko? he owes me an apology for insisting GTA would double up on WC... :) --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 9:40:27 PM | message detail |
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Stats Topic 310 - EC's downfall EC - Yeah... I see now why the huge explosion occurred. Oh well, GTA is looking to try and get back into shape, and I'm still hoping for a CJayC topic tonight. Well actually I'd like GTA to just win it on it's own merits, but if it can't do that without Warcraft cheat votes being taken away, then I'd like them to be. I'm also not saying that's it's a lock that vote stuffing has been going on, I'm just saying if there has been.... and I think there has been, but nothing shows that it's definite. TG - You do know that if votes get removed, they would be for GTA and not Warcraft, right? EC - Keep telling yourself that TG... keep telling yourself that. You clearly have no knowledge of past contestants cheating and what the updates looked like in them. Everything WC has done has coincided with Kefka/Vercetti. Manly Kefka. --- Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/11/2006 9:41:17 PM | message detail |
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Well, he did say no mass proxies, but yeah. Vote-rallying won this for Warcraft. So...how will a Warcraft with little-to-no support do against Super Mario. Doubling? I'd say 70% at most. --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Sonic vs. Devil May Cry - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (8/10) |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 7/11/2006 9:41:43 PM | message detail |
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I'm at least glad CJayC made a topic to kill any rumours about the voting: it makes things easier. --- "Never argue with a fool, people may not tell the difference" - Murphy's Law |
| transience | Posted 7/11/2006 9:42:46 PM | message detail |
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Ceej might have some real neat and creative technique he uses. if memory serves, didn't Ceej just google for a proxy list and check out the IP's? I don't think it was very fancy. --- xyzzy |
| creativename | Posted 7/11/2006 9:43:50 PM | message detail |
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If that conversation happened, I'd have to dub than "ownage" on your part Tequilla Gundam :) --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/11/2006 9:44:43 PM | message detail |
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Hate to say it, but I second what CN said. 187 REDUX!!! ...does 310 stand for anything in the police? --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| Sir Bormun | Posted 7/11/2006 9:44:56 PM | message detail |
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Hey, I've got a question. Am I the only one, after the failure of so
many modern series in this contest and Sonic's huge start against DMC,
that's thinking that Sonic>SSB is a very good possibility? --- Need new sig. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 9:45:41 PM | message detail |
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Yes, you're the only one. Silly goose. --- Commit it to memory. |
| creativename | Posted 7/11/2006 9:45:49 PM | message detail |
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if memory serves, didn't Ceej just google for a proxy list and check out the IP's? I don't think it was very fancy. That would work well as a one-time thing (there's a lot of different lists but only a few main ones), but not very well as an automatic continuing measure (unless he updates regularly, which I doubt). --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 9:46:14 PM | message detail |
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From: creativename | Posted: 7/11/2006 10:43:50 PM | Message Detail If that conversation happened, I'd have to dub than "ownage" on your part Tequilla Gundam :) Straight from CSaD - 310 ;) --- Feel my truth. |
| transience | Posted 7/11/2006 9:47:28 PM | message detail |
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people have been discussing it ever since Castlevania beat Halo. well
they were discussing it before, but it's become more scrutinized since
the "old" series beat the new, more popular one. I think that match is a tossup. this match right here isn't surprising me at all - maybe a percent or two higher than I expected, but nothing that convinces me that Sonic will definitely beat SSB. we'll see how SSB responds tomorrow. I don't think DMC is much more popular than DQ. --- xyzzy |
| Sir Bormun | Posted 7/11/2006 9:47:40 PM | message detail |
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Goddammit. I should have, you know, read the last page. More interesting question. Would anyone else (I would) switch to Sonic>SSB if you had another chance to modify that match in the bracket? --- Need new sig. |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/11/2006 9:48:00 PM | message detail |
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Sonic will beat SSBM... Tune in to my commentary the day before...to find out why... :) --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 7/11/2006 9:48:06 PM | message detail |
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More interesting question. Would anyone else (I would) switch to
Sonic>SSB if you had another chance to modify that match in the
bracket? Nope, not for a second. --- "Never argue with a fool, people may not tell the difference" - Murphy's Law |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 9:48:17 PM | message detail |
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Am I the only one, after the failure of so many modern series in
this contest and Sonic's huge start against DMC, that's thinking that
Sonic>SSB is a very good possibility? Yes. Okay, no. I'm feeling increasingly better about it with every match. Let's hope SSB/DQ makes me feel even better! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 9:49:24 PM | message detail |
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I don't think DMC is much more popular than DQ. ...what? And I would switch to Sonic > SSB as of now. I'd still give SSB the edge, but it's no longer an absolute lock for me (and I would need it to get back in the game at this point). --- Commit it to memory. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/11/2006 9:50:39 PM | message detail |
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If I had a bracket, yeah, I'd switch. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 9:50:53 PM | message detail |
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Well, as I said in my analysis, seeing Dante being much stronger than
his series wouldn't surprise me. I don't quite know what to expect from
Dragon Quest yet though. It's not that popular outside of Japan, but it
IS an RPG that's got an old school following. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 9:51:31 PM | message detail |
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What? Slowflake always roots against Sonic and picks him to lose despite preferring him to the competition. It's tradition! --- Commit it to memory. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/11/2006 9:53:16 PM | message detail |
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I don't think DMC is much more popular than DQ. I don't give a second thought to taking DMC over DQ. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Sir Bormun | Posted 7/11/2006 9:53:35 PM | message detail |
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At this point, I don't think DMC=DQ would be that bad an assumption. If
it's getting beaten this bad by Sonic then I don't think it looks like
the DMC series is strong... it may be one of those things where Dante
is stronger than his game. DQ is not unknown, especially after DQVIII
was decently successful in the States (although God, I hated that
game). Still, it's a RPG that isn't FF or Chrono, so proceed with
caution. Basically, we don't know much about either game, but in my mind, neither looks good. So personally, I'm gonna say the favorite in Sonic vs. SSB has to be the one that does the best over the next two matches. --- Need new sig. |
| transience | Posted 7/11/2006 9:54:20 PM | message detail |
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Well, as I said in my analysis, seeing Dante being much stronger
than his series wouldn't surprise me. I don't quite know what to expect
from Dragon Quest yet though. It's not that popular outside of Japan,
but it IS an RPG that's got an old school following. yeah, I agree with this. DQ was pretty big back in the NES days, it's got the whole influential thing down, and it had a pretty big game here on GF within the last year. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets a similar percentage on SSB that DMC does on Sonic. --- xyzzy |