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| andaca | Posted 7/11/2006 1:43:09 PM | message detail |
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FF6 is even closer to FF7 than FFX, and its characters are about as weak as you get. I can't buy that. It's hard to even come to a conclusion about who the main character in FF6 was, however. Giant ensemble casts, even if the characters are relatively cool, tend to not do so well. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/11/2006 1:43:31 PM | message detail |
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Match XI: (3) Sonic the Hedgehog vs. (6) Devil May Cry Games in series Sonic the Hedgehog (GEN, 1991) Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (GEN, 1992) Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (GEN, 1994) Sonic & Knuckles (GEN, 1994) Sonic 3D Blast (GEN/SAT, 1996) Sonic Adventure (DC, 1999) Sonic Adventure 2 (DC, 2001) Sonic Advance (GBA, 2002) Sonic Advance 2 (GBA, 2003) Sonic Advance 3 (GBA, 2004) Sonic Heroes (GC/PS2/XB, 2004) Sonic Rush (DS, 2005) Devil May Cry (PS2, 2001) Devil May Cry 2 (PS2, 2003) Devil May Cry 3: Dante’s Awakening (PS2, 2005) Analysis: Every time Dr. Robotnik is at it again, whether he is kidnapping animals or trying to steal the Chaos Emeralds Sonic and friends are there to stop them. You must go through various levels and defeat Robotnik’s Robot Army. Don’t forget Sega does what Nintendont. About 2000 years before DMC took place the Devil was trying to take over the human world, but Sparda, a devil knight decided to help the humans and defeated the Devil’s army and sealed the Devil. After the war he lived on Earth and had a child. 2000 years later and it’s time for Sparda’s son to save the world. Out of all the matches so far this one has had the least amount of talk, but then again what is there to talk about? Sonic will have no trouble beating DMC. Like all of the new series that have had matches so far DMC will probably perform worse than what we first expected, but since we are expecting it, it won’t be as much as a surprise. Not much to talk about before the match, but there will be a lot to talk about during the match Sonic/SSB wise. charmander6000’s Bracket: Sonic the Hedgehog over Devil May Cry charmander6000’s Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog wins, 64.17% - 35.83% --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 1:43:54 PM | message detail |
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I almost like the 'recency' argument for the dropping of games, if only
for the reason that it seems like it's a "It's no one's fault!"
explanation of resolving the apparent discrepancy. But I can't accept it. Now granted my personal observations can only go so far, but I can't bring myself to believe that GTA could fall THAT far as to put itself on even ground with WarCraft. Maybe WarCraft goes out and does spectacularly against Mario next round and proves it's a powerhouse, but I really, really doubt it. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 1:47:32 PM | message detail |
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lol! The guy who called me a troll just got Usermap axe'd. Irony at its best. --- Feel my truth. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 1:49:27 PM | message detail |
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Have you been away from GF for awhile? FF6 ranked high in the top 10
because the people who support it do so highly. In terms of the general
FF fanbase, though, it already lost a lot of ground to FFX. I wouldn't
be surprised if FF8 surpassed it soon, though the vote split caused by
FF12 (which obv would hurt FF6 less than 7+) might prevent that. I was referring to FF6 > FFX in the SpC2k4 X-Stats, not the list. And the 'ensemble cast' argument has always been prevalent, but I've never quite understood how FF6's characters could be that weak. The strongest character from one won a contest, the strongest from the other is barely above fodder. Sure, FFX gives me my suspicions, but looking at FF6 it's hardly concrete. --- Commit it to memory. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/11/2006 1:54:25 PM | message detail |
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Well, it's a combination of not just FFVI having a large cast, but FFVI having a large likable
cast. You won't have a decisive favorite, and that could hurt it. I
mean, every FF game from FFVII on has a decisive favorite. FFVI does
not. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Phediuk | Posted 7/11/2006 1:56:57 PM | message detail |
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*COMPARISONS GAME- (3) Sonic the Hedgehog vs. (6) Devil May Cry* Sales DMC and DMC2 both sold very well, but they can't stand up to the sheer magnitude of the Genesis Sonic games. Advantage: Sonic Hype Sonic: Always has people talking about him. People just can't get enough of his annoying, pretentious "attitude" and the "speed" each game offers, despite the fact that you usually only go fast in the first zone and then it's slow, boring, repetitive platforming for the rest of the game. Devil May Cry: Hasn't had a release in over a year. DMC3 got a decent amount of attention upon release, but this is just a series whose popularity rises and falls dramatically in proximity with each release. Advantage: Sonic Number of Games Sonic: Main series- Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis, 1991) Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Genesis, 1992) Sonic CD (Sega CD, 1993) Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (Genesis, 1994) Sonic & Knuckles (Genesis, 1994) Sonic 3D Blast (Genesis, 1996) Sonic Adventure (DC, 1999) Sonic Adventure 2 (DC, 2001) Sonic Heroes (PS2, 2004) Sonic Rush (DS, 2005) Spinoffs/ports- Flicky (Arcade, 1981) Flicky (SG-1000, 1983) Flicky (Genesis, 1989) Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS, 1991) Sonic the Hedgehog (Game Gear, 1991) Sonic Eraser (Genesis, 1991) Waku Waku Sonic Patrol Car (Genesis, 1991) Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (SMS, 1992) Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Game Gear, 1992) SegaSonic the Hedgehog (Arcade, 1993) SegaSonic Cosmo Fighter (Arcade, 1993) Sonic Chaos (SMS, 1993) Sonic Chaos (Game Gear, 1993) Sonic Spinball (Genesis, 1993) Sonic Spinball (SMS, 1993) Sonic Spinball (Game Gear, 1993) Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (Genesis, 1993) Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (SMS, 1993) Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (Game Gear, 1993) Sonic the Hedgehog: Triple Trouble (Game Gear, 1994) Sonic CD (PC, 1994) Sonic Drift (Game Gear, 1994) Sonic Drift 2 (Game Gear, 1995) Sonic Compilation (Genesis, 1995) Knuckles' Chaotix (32X, 1995) Sonic Labyrinth (Game Gear, 1995) Tails Adventure (Game Gear, 1995) Tails' Skypatrol (Game Gear, 1995) Sonic the Fighters (Arcade, 1996) Sonic's Schoolhouse (PC, 1996) Sonic Blast (SMS, 1996) Sonic Blast (Game Gear, 1996) Sonic 3D Blast (Saturn, 1996) Sonic R (Saturn, 1997) Sonic Jam (Saturn, 1997) Sonic R (PC, 1999) Sonic the Hedgehog Pocket Adventure (NGPC, 1999) Sonic and Knuckles Collection (PC, 1999) Sonic Shuffle (DC, 2000) Sonic Advance (GBA, 2002) Sonic Mega Collection (GC, 2002) Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (GC, 2002) Sonic Pinball Party (GBA, 2003) Sonic Advance 2 (GBA, 2003) Sonic N (N-Gage, 2003) Sonic Adventure DX: Directors' Cut (GC, 2003) Sonic Battle (GBA, 2004) Sonic Heroes (GC, 2004) Sonic Heroes (Xbox, 2004) Sonic Heroes (PC, 2004) Sonic Advance 3 (GBA, 2004) Sonic Mega Collection Plus (PS2, 2004) Sonic Mega Collection Plus (Xbox, 2004)\ Sonic Gems Collection (GC, 2005) Sonic Gems Collection (PS2, 2005) Shadow the Hedgehog (PS2, 2005) Shadow the Hedgehog (Xbox, 2005) Shadow the Hedgehog (GC, 2005) Sonic Riders (PS2, 2006) Sonic Riders (Xbox, 2006) Sonic Riders (GC, 2006) Sonic the Hedgehog (Mobile, 2006) Total- 72 -- Devil May Cry: Main series- Devil May Cry (PS2, 2001) Devil May Cry 2 (PS2, 2003) Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (PS2, 2005) Spinoffs/ports- Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition (PS2, 2006) Total- 4 Advantage: Sonic |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/11/2006 1:57:13 PM | message detail |
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Also, what's this I hear about EC, Sess, and Luster Soldier getting banned? --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Phediuk | Posted 7/11/2006 1:58:22 PM | message detail |
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GameFAQs Status Number of FAQs: Sonic: Sonic the Hedgehog- 13 Sonic the Hedgehog 2- 14 Sonic CD- 5 Sonic the Hedgehog 3- 10 Sonic & Knuckles- 17 Sonic 3D Blast- 7 Sonic Adventure- 26 Sonic Adventure 2- 26 Sonic Heroes- 15 Sonic Rush- 4 Total- 127 Devil May Cry: Devil May Cry- 27 Devil May Cry 2- 14 Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening- 17 Total- 58 Advantage: Sonic Average review score/Number of reviews: Sonic: Sonic the Hedgehog- 8.59 (49) Sonic the Hedgehog 2- 8.92 (48) Sonic CD- 8.19 (21) Sonic the Hedgehog 3- 8.50 (40) Sonic & Knuckles- 9.23 (40) Sonic 3D Blast- 6.03 (32) Sonic Adventure- 8.33 (42) Sonic Adventure 2- 8.20 (41) Sonic Heroes- 7.44 (18) Sonic Rush- 8.32 (34) Series average- 8.18 (365) Devil May Cry: Devil May Cry- 8.74 (61) Devil May Cry 2- 7.26 (57) Devil May Cry 3- 9.02 (55) Series average- 8.34 (173) Advantage: Devil May Cry/Sonic Board activity: Not much going on at either series' boards. The sheer cumulative effect of Sonic's games should push it over DMC, though. Advantage: Sonic Board Odds Project Match prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog- 130 Devil May Cry- 3 Jesus, people picked DMC? Advantage: Sonic Point value: Sonic the Hedgehog- 170 Devil May Cry- 3 Same deal. Advantage: Sonic Previous contest representation Sonic: SC2002- Sonic (5th) Knuckles (15th) Tails (28th) SC2003- Sonic (10th) Shadow (12th) Knuckles (24th) Tails (41st) Sp2004- Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (33rd) SC2004- Sonic (7th) Shadow (23rd) Knuckles (24th) Tails (27th) Sp2005- Dr. Robotnik (16th) SC2005- Sonic (7th) Knuckles (17th) Top 100- Sonic the Hedgehog (#38) Devil May Cry: SC2002- Dante (18th) SC2003- Dante (21st) SC2004- Dante (17th) Sp2005- Vergil (14th) SC2005- Dante (16th) Top 100- Devil May Cry (#40) Advantage: Sonic Intangibles Nintendo association factor, established series factor, nostalgia factor--all going in favor of Sonic. Just not your day, Dante. Advantage: Sonic Conclusion Sonic should have an easy time with his "badass" opponent. 76% for the blue guy. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/11/2006 1:58:29 PM | message detail |
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I find it very unusual that DMC is the only franchise that Capcom has
yet to whore out, since it's got a great sales-per-release average. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Lopen | Posted 7/11/2006 2:00:32 PM | message detail |
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Psh, Devil May Cry had a release a few months ago. DMC3: SE anyone? And
I'm not sure I agree with Sonic having the "hype" advantage, either. DMC4 will be huge! --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 2:01:28 PM | message detail |
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I haven't even heard anything about DMC4! At least Sonic has next-gen hype! --- Commit it to memory. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/11/2006 2:01:35 PM | message detail |
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The new Sonic the Hedgehog was pretty big at E3, and it's going to be a PS3 launch title. I don't even remember hearing anything about DMC4 at E3. Sonic has the hype advantage. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Lopen | Posted 7/11/2006 2:03:25 PM | message detail |
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Everyone's given up on Sonic by now! They're tired of his lackluster 3D offerings! I'm completely unbiased, and I speak for the people! I would know! --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 2:04:39 PM | message detail |
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The people didn't give up on Dante after DMC2! --- Commit it to memory. |
| Lopen | Posted 7/11/2006 2:06:30 PM | message detail |
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What is this DMC2? Some Donkey Kong Country came with a typo? --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Big Bob | Posted 7/11/2006 2:06:32 PM | message detail |
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Since Warcraft is strong, it must have a strong character! Leeroy Jenkins for 2K6! --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/ImBigBob/PokemonvsMetroid.jpg |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/11/2006 2:07:28 PM | message detail |
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DMC2 was that game that caused DMC3's sales to suffer! --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Lopen | Posted 7/11/2006 2:10:14 PM | message detail |
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It's easy to blame the sales dip on some random game which I'm not even
sure exists, but there must be some other more sane explanation. Like an anti-Dante conspiracy perpetrated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/11/2006 2:13:35 PM | message detail |
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Which means Dante is doomed against Sonic either way! --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Lopen | Posted 7/11/2006 2:15:17 PM | message detail |
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Give me a break. People will anti-vote the ATF. You can only rig a poll so much. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 2:16:02 PM | message detail |
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Applause Sign (EC) was KOS'd/Axe'd for mass vote stuffing with his myriad of banned accounts. --- Feel my truth. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 2:16:40 PM | message detail |
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Anti-vote the ATF? Who doesn't love Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms?! --- Commit it to memory. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/11/2006 2:16:52 PM | message detail |
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Why would people anti-vote alcohol, tobacco, and firearms? --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/11/2006 2:17:56 PM | message detail |
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100000 votes in 17 hours. Insane... --- ...little Weezing it's gonna stand up against my ****in' Charizard? Just get back on your bike and keep pretending to be cool with your lame ass mohawk ****er. - phoenix1487 Sp2k6: 8/9 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 2:23:12 PM | message detail |
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We're over 9500 ahead of Mario/Madden. If this keeps up, we could get over 125,000 votes in this match. That's on par with a Clink match. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Lopen | Posted 7/11/2006 2:23:44 PM | message detail |
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Liberalists don't like bureaus. Conservatists don't like Alcohol and/or
Tobacco and/or Firearms. There's something to be anti-voted for everybody. Dante will also pull Firearm SFF from the ATF. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| jonthomson | Posted 7/11/2006 2:23:57 PM | message detail |
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Match 11 - Sonic vs Devil May Cry This is one of the more important matches to watch in the first round. Mainly because it will give us an idea of who the favourite will be in one of the highly debated second round matches. In one corner we have Sonic - the mascot of Sega since the days before t'internet, with a myriad of games now being enjoyed again due to classic re-releases (I'd probably have beaten half of the Mega Collection by now but I'm addicted to Sonic Spinball), although recent games haven't been quite as popular as Sonic's early 90's zenith. Then we have Devil May Cry - a popular enough modern series that instinctively should be a solid midcarder, capable of winning against half of the series in the contest. There's been murmurings that DMC might be able to pull off the upset here, but I think that's way too optimistic - we'd be talking Magus/Knuckles level of upset if it made it. Previous form? Sonic 2 made the games contest, but was blown out of the water by Super Mario World. I've maintained SFF from day one over the level of defeat there and it seems as if only recently people are coming to think that way as well. Although that is in the context of suggestions of even more ridiculous forms of SFF than I'd give a moment's thought to. Sonic's characters are alright - Sonic himself is still just about top tier, Knuckles and Shadow are useful, and Tails... well if Tails ever makes another contest it'll be too soon. Dante is pretty consistent and we know where he is. Sonic should take this one. It's not going to blow DMC away, but it's not going to be close either. Bracket says: Sonic Favourites bracket says: Sonic Vote says: Sonic Prediction: Sonic with 61.68% Fun fact for the day: jonthomson is looking for a way to antivote both options if Tails ever faced Yoshi in a contest. --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 7/11/2006 2:25:06 PM | message detail |
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Dante will also pull Firearm SFF from the ATF. But then Shadow will pull Firearm SFF on Dante! --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 2:29:57 PM | message detail |
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DMC's S/G average isn't spectacular. I'm fairly certain it's a good
deal below a mil. Considering how much better MGS does in sales and how
weak its ports are I don't think it's unjustified. --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 2:31:23 PM | message detail |
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Compared to other Capcom franchises, I think DMC has the best
sales-per-release average. I don't know what DMC3's sales were, but the
first two both sold over a million. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 2:32:52 PM | message detail |
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Man, that was a big upset for Warcraft. Nearly a 1500 vote lead now. I
hate to call a match over when it's drawing in this many votes, but GTA
isn't really showing any signs of life, and any cuts into the lead are
by 10 or fewer. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 7/11/2006 2:34:05 PM | message detail |
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Devil May Cry 3 also sold well over a million. It's barely behind DMC2. I don't know why people are saying its sales sucked. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 2:35:10 PM | message detail |
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Ah ha! You do admit DMC2 exists! --- Commit it to memory. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 2:35:44 PM | message detail |
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Lopen | Posted 7/11/2006 5:34:05 PM | message detail Devil May Cry 3 also sold well over a million. It's barely behind DMC2. I don't know why people are saying its sales sucked. Aha! An acknowledgement of DMC2's existence! I'll be archiving this post for future use! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 7/11/2006 2:36:38 PM | message detail |
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I've... always admitted it exists... I just don't know what it is, or
who bought it! I have no idea why I brought it up in the same sentence
as DMC3! ... *runs away* --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 2:39:31 PM | message detail |
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So...how many perfects do you think this match is going to kill? --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 7/11/2006 2:42:25 PM | message detail |
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2500 of em. We'll be left with 600. The perfects shall not escape this contest! Ha ha ha ha... --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Tai | Posted 7/11/2006 2:42:52 PM | message detail |
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Gain for GTA... >_> --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=579987 - Wanna report a TOS violation! Go to Snack Attack and we can help! |
| Phediuk | Posted 7/11/2006 2:46:27 PM | message detail |
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102,000 votes and still over 6 hours to go? Jesus. I can only imagine what FF/Zelda will be like. Or should I say...SMB/ZELDA. *dun-dun-duuuuuh* --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 2:47:09 PM | message detail |
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Actually, you shouldn't say that. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 2:48:07 PM | message detail |
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Votals are a great way of evaluating opponents' strength! Watch: Warcraft v. Cloud Strife WHO WINS?! --- Commit it to memory. |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 2:50:02 PM | message detail |
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Warcraft. --- Feel my truth. |
| Lopen | Posted 7/11/2006 2:50:26 PM | message detail |
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It's senseless... but the more I see it, the more I want to see a
characters vs games contest. Round 1 could be entirely characters
against their respective games! It'd be impossible! --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 2:54:47 PM | message detail |
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"Devil May Cry 3 also sold well over a million." I use only NA number because they are pretty much the only ones that count. Worldwide sales mean far, far less than NA sales to GF, and that's saying something cosidering how little NA sales mean to GF. --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 2:56:44 PM | message detail |
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"Compared to other Capcom franchises, I think DMC has the best sales-per-release average." Umm, RE? It MIGHT have a lower low (though I doubt it) but I know for certain it has higher highs. --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 2:57:29 PM | message detail |
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I know it has a higher high, but we're talking about averages here. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/11/2006 2:58:43 PM | message detail |
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I thought DMC3's sales were average. --- GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK! GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK! |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 7/11/2006 2:59:03 PM | message detail |
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How many votes per 5 minute update does GTA need to win? --- Economic Left/Right: 7.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.26 |
| andaca | Posted 7/11/2006 3:00:05 PM | message detail |
| GTA needs to close 20.2 votes per 5 minute update in order to win. |