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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 310
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| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/11/2006 11:43:58 AM | message detail |
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GTA is casual, sure. Maybe it's not as good as FF/Mario Bros/LOZ but hell it's a better series than Warcraft. I wouldn't go there, but GTA games are sure as hell better than WoW will ever be. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 11:46:24 AM | message detail |
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It's all opinions boys and girls. No game will ever be definitively better than another game in the eyes of 100% of the gaming populace. |
| Yesmar | Posted 7/11/2006 11:46:27 AM | message detail |
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.and for the only match that causes me any pause after that in Round
2: SF's upset over RE. But it will happen...all the logic says so... :) But you have Resident Evil winning in your Guru bracket. --- "Dropo! You're the laziest man on Mars." |
| Applause Sign | Posted 7/11/2006 11:46:29 AM | message detail |
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WoW > GTA Series > Other Warcraft Games Still... I want GTA to win because the WC fans on this board are ****ing annoying as all hell. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| V for Vendetta | Posted 7/11/2006 11:47:19 AM | message detail |
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1099 votes. --- This message was brought to you by the letter V |
| Applause Sign | Posted 7/11/2006 11:47:54 AM | message detail |
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No game will ever be definitively better than another game in the eyes of 100% of the gaming populace. Name on person who says Big Rigs is better than SMB3. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/11/2006 11:47:56 AM | message detail |
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No game will ever be definitively better than another game in the eyes of 100% of the gaming populace. though I do believe that, some games have some 'deserve' factor in them. --- * Is Dranze * |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 11:48:12 AM | message detail |
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GTA's stalling does not impress me. It's only delaying the inevitable. And we just broke 85,000 votes. --- Commit it to memory. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/11/2006 11:48:36 AM | message detail |
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Still... I want GTA to win because the WC fans on this board are ****ing annoying as all hell. Oh don't even get me started. This is easily the worst day I've ever seen on Board 8, and it's only going to get worse. I'm very happy I'm going to work... like, now. Peace. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| _SmurfX_ | Posted 7/11/2006 11:49:08 AM | message detail |
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What I don't get is that Vice City scored almost 47% aganist SSBM. 10th in the x-stats, IIRC. And according to the top 100 list, Vice City is only the 3rd most popular GTA. So shouldn't the series be even more popular than that? 3 possibilities. 1) GTA has lost a lot of popularity with the rising vote turnout 2) Warcraft is a major popularity beast. Something close to SSBM or Metroid. 3) wtf hax --- Germany's Road to victory! Germany 3-1 Portugal Next up: Ireland (Euro Qualifiers) |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 7/11/2006 11:50:02 AM | message detail |
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What I've learned from this contest: 1. Never go against your original instincts (Bye oracle) 2. Never predict a relatively new series over an older series. Halo and GTA come to mind. 3. Never ever predict something will be strong without proof from a previous contest. Top 10s mean nothing. Top 100 games mean nothing. Board traffic means nothing. 4. Never listen to tranny. --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune Not changing signature until HHH pedigrees Candice through a table. 07/07/06 |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 11:50:24 AM | message detail |
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 7/11/2006 12:47:54 PM | Message Detail No game will ever be definitively better than another game in the eyes of 100% of the gaming populace. Name on person who says Big Rigs is better than SMB3. I thought "no extreme examples" was a given when I made that statement. |
| yoshifan823 | Posted 7/11/2006 11:50:32 AM | message detail |
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3 possibilities. 1) GTA has lost a lot of popularity with the rising vote turnout 2) Warcraft is a major popularity beast. Something close to SSBM or Metroid. 3) wtf hax We have a winnar. --- RIP *SPOILERS EDITED*To see who died, go see my quote. Pay your respects here: *SPOILERS* http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=928040&topic=25183312 |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 11:51:20 AM | message detail |
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From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 7/11/2006 12:50:02 PM | Message Detail What I've learned from this contest: 1. Never go against your original instincts (Bye oracle) 2. Never predict a relatively new series over an older series. Halo and GTA come to mind. 3. Never ever predict something will be strong without proof from a previous contest. Top 10s mean nothing. Top 100 games mean nothing. Board traffic means nothing. 4. Never listen to tranny. Learned #4 a long time ago >_> |
| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/11/2006 11:51:49 AM | message detail |
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Ah, all the sore losers in the stats topic today. This is one of the best days this board has ever seen in terms of entertainment. --- sig |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 11:52:55 AM | message detail |
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Most definitely :) I can FEEL the disgust in every post. |
| Big Bob | Posted 7/11/2006 11:55:01 AM | message detail |
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Like I said in that topic nobody read... My gut > Board 8's experts. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/ImBigBob/PokemonvsMetroid.jpg |
| _SmurfX_ | Posted 7/11/2006 11:55:26 AM | message detail |
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Series sales stats from Wikipedia. Grand Theft Auto (50.1 million) Warcraft (14 million) GameFAQs just flipped logic over and hit it's weak point for MASSIVE damage. --- Germany's Road to victory! Germany 3-1 Portugal Next up: Ireland (Euro Qualifiers) |
| Applause Sign | Posted 7/11/2006 11:56:15 AM | message detail |
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GTA is a Giant Crab Enemy. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 11:57:09 AM | message detail |
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Wait until the kiddies get back from summer camp! Summer camp ages are 6-15 ;) --- Feel my truth. |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/11/2006 11:58:20 AM | message detail |
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But you have Resident Evil winning in your Guru bracket. I checked this Yesmar, and you are mistaken. I do have SF in my Guru bracket. It is on Page 7 of the Guru thread. Its all good! GO SF & WC! --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/11/2006 11:59:43 AM | message detail |
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Tequilla: LOL! The summer camp kiddies...they will make the margin
shrink from 1100 as it is now to about...1050. Warcraft's millions of
loyal players are too strong to be overcome by kiddies and jaded
casuals who traded in their GTA copies for a new copy of Katamari
Decency and Nintendogs. --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 12:01:06 PM | message detail |
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For the record, this match is nearly 9000 votes ahead of Mario/Madden. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Applause Sign | Posted 7/11/2006 12:01:10 PM | message detail |
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| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 12:01:17 PM | message detail |
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Horrible update for GTA, good one for WC. Lead is now near 1150. --- Commit it to memory. |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/11/2006 12:01:30 PM | message detail |
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Big Bob: DO not lump me with those sham experts...my satirical analysis
has outdone them all...cause each and every one of them picked Halo and
GTA and probably Mario Kart too... (I got Mega Man) In other news...Kleenex reports an uptick in the sales of tissues today...all the GTA kiddies are weeping! --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| Applause Sign | Posted 7/11/2006 12:01:54 PM | message detail |
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YOU DIDN'T SEE IT. But I'm off. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| _SmurfX_ | Posted 7/11/2006 12:03:12 PM | message detail |
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What the hell? A 60 vote gain? This just makes no sense. --- Germany's Road to victory! Germany 3-1 Portugal Next up: Ireland (Euro Qualifiers) |
| _SmurfX_ | Posted 7/11/2006 12:03:38 PM | message detail |
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That said. I have a feeling that GTA will be hitting back next update. --- Germany's Road to victory! Germany 3-1 Portugal Next up: Ireland (Euro Qualifiers) |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/11/2006 12:04:32 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, we said that when SMRPG began its big push on SF2. OMFG CHEETING. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| xp1337 | Posted 7/11/2006 12:04:44 PM | message detail |
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What the hell? A 60 vote gain? This just makes no sense. As someone who has Warcraft in their bracket and expected to lose, not much in this match has made sense. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SpC2k6 (08/09) GTA v Warcraft |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 12:04:49 PM | message detail |
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This match seems a lot like Squall/Vincent the more I look at it.
Squall was always able to keep it close and push every now and then for
the comeback, but Vincent was able to extend that lead, bit by bit. --- Commit it to memory. |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/11/2006 12:05:14 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, we said that when SMRPG began its big push on SF2. OMFG CHEETING. That brings back some memories...another one that ruined me...grrrr --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/11/2006 12:06:55 PM | message detail |
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Christ, this match is nearly 10000 votes ahead of the other matches at
the time. I expected some rallying, but I didn't think it would be this
much. Heh, take away 10K votes from Warcraft and GTA leads with 55.75%. (And no, I'm not saying that this happened) Oh well, once the extra support is gone when SMB faces Warcraft, it's going to look ugly. I figure Asia kept Warcraft alive overnight, and the downtime helped it out during the day, so lets see where the match goes now. I'm also wondering what Ceej is going to say on this match. The only way GTA might win this is if Ceej finds cheating, which is pretty sad considering the high hopes we had for it. --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Grand Theft Auto vs. Warcraft - Bracket: GTA - Vote: GTA (8/9) |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 12:07:34 PM | message detail |
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Also, I wouldn't say the board is getting 'owned' at all, at least any
more than it was on Castlevania/Halo. GTA/Warcraft was the second most
popular BOP upset (and was #1 for a long time). That's like saying the
board is going to get owned if Mario Kart beats Mega Man. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 12:07:40 PM | message detail |
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 7/11/2006 1:01:54 PM | Message Detail YOU DIDN'T SEE IT. But I'm off. Bai! --- Feel my truth. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 12:09:10 PM | message detail |
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Though obviously Castlevania was far more beloved and Halo far more hated than Warcraft/GTA respectively. --- Commit it to memory. |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/11/2006 12:11:48 PM | message detail |
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Tequilla, u have earned the respect of the Sage of Board 8. :) --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/11/2006 12:17:24 PM | message detail |
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Greatest day of my life. Well, second. The day I joined the Pirate Crew was my greatest. --- Feel my truth. |
| Yesmar | Posted 7/11/2006 12:19:19 PM | message detail |
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I checked this Yesmar, and you are mistaken. I do have SF in my Guru bracket. It is on Page 7 of the Guru thread. Well, this link says that you have RE winning, so you should probably let someone know. http://www.thengamer.com/guru/ Note: I'm not stalking you or anything. Someone just posted that you would eliminate me if Warcraft won, and I have RE winning, so when you posted you had SF winning I was like "Huh?" and I checked. --- "Dropo! You're the laziest man on Mars." |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/11/2006 12:20:13 PM | message detail |
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I don't know if I'd say that Halo is more hated than GTA. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Mr Lasastryke | Posted 7/11/2006 12:21:18 PM | message detail |
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If rallying in previous matches was as non-existent as people have said, this match has the most rallying by far. --- stingers135 is the coolest person in existence. |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/11/2006 12:23:31 PM | message detail |
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Yesmar, I am glad u put that link up cause I did not know about it. My tiebreaker is too low...geesh. Oh well. But yes, I do gotta get that fixed, in the name of accuracy, and in the name of T HAWK, the greatest SF character ever....hehe --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 12:26:34 PM | message detail |
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GTA inspires more apathy and/or resentment than anything else I've
seen. Apathy because many people simply don't care about it. And
resentment because even though many people play it and consider it a
good game, get weary of casuals who walk around touting how IT IS DA
BEST GAME EVAR!!!11! Both these things work against it in a contest setting. --- Commit it to memory. |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/11/2006 12:26:56 PM | message detail |
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Greatest day of my life. Well, second. The day I joined the Pirate Crew was my greatest. :) --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| Jarod1985 | Posted 7/11/2006 12:30:44 PM | message detail |
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Karma I'm not sure I agree...I mean, I know it's caused a lot of heat
in the gaming industry, but it's holding its own against War Craft, and
I forgot to take into consideration to WoW fan-base when I submitted my
bracket... In any case, while some do resent GTA, there are also a lot of die hard fans of the series as well. So I don't think it's completely handicapped. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/11/2006 12:33:32 PM | message detail |
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You say "holding its own against WarCraft" as though WC were some kind
of force to be reckoned with here. But the thing is, every piece of
data we have says it isn't -- signs point to GTA tanking and WC taking
advantage, not WC catapulting over a juggernaut. I may very well be wrong, but we can see how WarCraft does next round against Mario. It has no chance to win, so the important thing will be to look at the percentages. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/11/2006 12:34:15 PM | message detail |
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Right. And we should look out for FF/Diablo as well, to compare the two. --- Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego |
| red sox 777 | Posted 7/11/2006 12:34:18 PM | message detail |
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What I don't get is that Vice City scored almost 47% aganist SSBM. 10th in the x-stats, IIRC. And according to the top 100 list, Vice City is only the 3rd most popular GTA. So shouldn't the series be even more popular than that? 3 possibilities. 1) GTA has lost a lot of popularity with the rising vote turnout 2) Warcraft is a major popularity beast. Something close to SSBM or Metroid. 3) wtf hax 4. SSBM is overrated. Halo, Soul Calibur, and now GTA, which is not behind Starcraft, have underperformed relative to their 2004 performances. Kingdom Hearts has also had a questionable performance, albeit against an unknown. Moreover, MGS should be comfortably stronger than MGS2, and even a reasonable amount of SFF in FFVII/MGS, it is still not much stronger than MGS2 in the stats. SSBM barely beat FFX, even with an unfair picture. And while characters =/= games, FFX is much closer to FFVII in the stats than any character from it is to Cloud. SSBM's 37% against FFVII made Division 128 look the strongest of all the divisions. That seems a bit odd given the dominance of older series thus far this contest, and the fact that of the 6 strongest games on the site, the newest one is Ocarina of Time, made in 1998, and the average age falls between Final Fantasy VI in 1994 and Chrono Trigger in 1995. Halo, Wind Waker, GTA:VC, MGS2, Kingdom Hearts, Soul Calibur- would these games really get 30-35% on FFVII? Would they really to be able to beat or have a close match with such games as Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy Tactics, Street Fighter 2, and Goldeneye? And as far as Starcraft overrating them goes, the problems are not just on SC's half of the division, and moreover, seem too large for SC's vote rallying/stuffing to overcome. How many more votes did SC really rally/cheat against SSBM than against Halo? Furthermore, FFVII/SSBM follows a pattern of overperformance with precedent. 1. Link/Magus was Nintendo vs. Square, with one being among the strongest competitors on the site, and the other being supported enough by the other fanbase so as to get mid-30s to low 40s. Note that Magus had had a close match with Ganon before this, and Ganon a close match with Tidus. 2. Bowser broke 40% on Sephiroth, inciting many to believe that the SC2K5 champ could beat Sephiroth. Another Nintendo/Square match resulting in an overperformance with the loser ranging from mid-30s to low 40s. 3. The next day Ganondorf also overperforms against Sephiroth, with similar circumstances. 4. Sephiroth may have overperformed against Link in 2002, following close matches against Megaman and Samus. Again, a Nintendo/Square match with the loser in themid-30s to low 40s range. 5. While this doesn't fit the other characteristics, Frog, after having 2 very close matches against Liquid Snake and Master Chief, overperforms heavily against Solid Snake. Now, SSBM, the Nintendo game, had a pair of close matches before facing FFVII, the Square game: against FFX, where it won the day vote to win the match, but did not break either 2000 votes or 51%, and of course, against Starcraft, where it was actually losing by a small amount at the beginning, as did Wind Waker, leading me to think the extra rallying/stuffing in that match is far less than has been said. If SSBM really did win by 10,000 votes, then either it has a far far far better day vote than Wind Waker, or Starcraft had more rallying/stuffing against WW, which doesn't help out SSBM's cause either. Starcraft, of course, had 2 really close matches beforehand. After emerging victorious in those 2 matches, SSBM then puts up a respectable 37% against FFVII. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 7/11/2006 12:34:21 PM | message detail |
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So, perhaps SSBM is the game we should be blaming for messing up the
division 128 stats, moreso than Starcraft. I'd put SSBM down to around
32-33% on FFVII, at least in 2004. I do think SSBM is quite a bit
stronger now, though, because of the Nintendo boost, because it has
aged very well, and because it has continued to gain more sales and new
players/owners since 2004 than other older Gamecube games. --- July 2006 Contest --- Score: 8/9 --- Rank: T-3078 Today's Pick: Grand Theft Auto --- Vote: Warcraft |