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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 309

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/10/2006 11:46:27 PM | message detail
Oh, I can hardly wait until Sonic/DMC myself. Dante's series should struggle much like Halo, GTA, and KH have so far (only worse, since it'd be the weakest of the four!).

Indeed.

I wish it would do better, but that one is going to be ugly!!

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/10/2006 11:52:58 PM | message detail
seems like after every slight push from GTA, WC just gains even more.
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Lopen | Posted 7/10/2006 11:53:04 PM | message detail
Kingdom Hearts is in no way a lock to be stronger than Devil May Cry. In no way.

This "old school power" is propaganda spread by The Plan. Foolishness! Sonic is as weak as I say it is!
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Raiden is still [!!] nominations short!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 11:54:04 PM | message detail
Once again, proving The Plan > DMC2
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 11:54:37 PM | message detail
I cannot think of any reason for Devil May Cry to be stronger than Kingdom Hearts. Heck, I bet DMC couldn't even double Harvest Moon!

Oh, I went there!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden I don't necessarily believe that, but I went there!
Lopen | Posted 7/10/2006 11:58:04 PM | message detail
Psh. Dante > Sora. We all know series translate perfectly into games. DMC > KH 55-45.

Also, DMC > LoZ 51-49 by way of Dante > Zelda.
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Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! As if you could trick ME with THAT technique? I do this DAILY!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 11:59:48 PM | message detail
Sonic > DMC by virtue of Sonic > Dante!

FF >= Sonic by virtue of Tidus/Shadow
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden I'm so sly
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/10/2006 11:59:58 PM | message detail
"seems like after every slight push from GTA, WC just gains even more."

Thank goodness that WC is almost certainly a night game and that GTA is a proven day game* then, eh?

*: Vercetti/Kefka, totally.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 12:00:59 AM | message detail
Yeowch, big gain for Warcraft.

Well, I think I'm going to bed now.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Don't think this is over!
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 12:01:08 AM | message detail
"Sonic is as weak as I say it is!"

Or more!
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/11/2006 12:01:21 AM | message detail
Kingdom Hearts is in no way a lock to be stronger than Devil May Cry. In no way.

What advantage does DMC have over KH? It's three games to two!!

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/11/2006 12:01:25 AM | message detail
After CV/Halo, I'm a bit uneasy about the day vote.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/11/2006 12:01:58 AM | message detail
yeah, I expect GTA to at least not fall during the day vote. I'm also sure Europe loves its GTA.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 12:03:09 AM | message detail
By the way, this match is still about 2000 votes ahead of Castlevania/Halo.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 12:04:17 AM | message detail
"Yeowch, big gain for Warcraft."

There's a strong probablity that it's just a spike. They do come up in most matches after all. It seems like, for no reason, sometimes a 5 minute set ends greatly out of expectations just due to random varience. All told, I do say wait at least another update to see if it's not just "oops, randomly weird sample data"
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/11/2006 12:05:20 AM | message detail
I did a bit of rallying. Hopefully it helps somehow....<_<
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/11/2006 12:06:08 AM | message detail
Don't look now, but it looks like Warcraft is trying to run away with the match.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 12:07:40 AM | message detail
Europe accounts for about 15% of the site

Even if Europeans are far more commonly found on GF now rather than at other times they still don't make up a majority of users currently on in all liklihood

According to Ceej only about 60~65% of Koreans actually voted for Starcraft... so even in places where there is a known haevy favorite it still fits pretty close to the expectations of the match as a whole.

Seriously, GTA could be God's gift to Europe and it'd still be a better performer in the day. This is not its time.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 12:10:12 AM | message detail
+26 isn't nearly as mentionable as +47. Considering how the rest of the world doesn't work in 5 minute blocks it could mean WC is putting some fight into it or it could still be randomness.

WAY too dodgy. *shrugs* If it would have been 12~ we'd know there was spike, if there were 40+ again we'd know it's a fight... inbetween means nothing solid.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 12:16:22 AM | message detail
ANNNND~~~~~ A gain of 13.

So it was merely a spike after all. WC is gonna lose like this... :)
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Aprosenf | Posted 7/11/2006 12:25:10 AM | message detail
What advantage does DMC have over KH? It's three games to two!!

Chain of Memories would like a word with you.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/11/2006 12:26:19 AM | message detail
That's what he said. Kingdom Hearts has three games, and Devil May Cry only has two!
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SC2K6 Nominations (Psst, the joke is that DMC2 doesn't count!): Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Chinballz | Posted 7/11/2006 12:34:16 AM | message detail
Chain of Memories is like Poland. It always gets forgotten.
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And that's The Word.
Aprosenf | Posted 7/11/2006 12:36:13 AM | message detail
...I was just going to go to sleep, but now that GTA took off 32 votes, I have to stay up for another update or two.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 12:39:09 AM | message detail
GTA is savage. Toying with its prey like a cat then beatinging it over the friggen head with the equivalent force of having a brick thrown at your head.

Well, at least that's how I look at it when a competitor undoes 20 minutes of the oponnent's work in 5.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 12:39:35 AM | message detail
Btw, meant to say: "let's hope it's not a spike!"
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/11/2006 12:46:17 AM | message detail
These WC spikes are getting rather annoying...
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/11/2006 12:54:49 AM | message detail
Bloody stuffing >_>
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 12:58:14 AM | message detail
Who thinks lead change #2 could be soon in the making?
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/11/2006 12:59:15 AM | message detail
I'll wait a couple of more updates before calling for a lead change.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/11/2006 12:59:21 AM | message detail
well, I at least hope so.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/11/2006 1:00:26 AM | message detail
I hope not, but it looks like it.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/11/2006 1:18:37 AM | message detail
The last time Chichi called cheating, he was right. Not accusing WC of anything, mind you.

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/11/2006 1:34:03 AM | message detail
Ugh. More huge WC increases.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/11/2006 1:34:50 AM | message detail
Good.

I just pray that it doesn't turn out to be due to vote-stuffing. >_>

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/11/2006 1:38:51 AM | message detail
Same here, though my recent WC3 failures have me hoping that Warcraft gets creamed come the day vote. Stupid imbalanced hero system.

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/11/2006 1:44:06 AM | message detail
I think Warcraft is starting to pull away for good this time. It's all up to whether or not the day vote will save GTA now.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/11/2006 1:45:33 AM | message detail
Practically no change.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/11/2006 1:55:35 AM | message detail
According to Ceej only about 60~65% of Koreans actually voted for Starcraft

I get this sneaking suspicion that a huge chunk of those "korean" voters were american troops stationed over there. Console industry has been practically dead since Chrono Trigger days, and Zelda was never popular over there to begin with. Heck, Gordon Friedman would mop the floor with Link if only we (sorry no korean-americans) were allowed to vote. I've never even seen a Gamecube or N64 being sold at any stores in Seoul.

So my conclusion is, this "asian votes" are phantom, votes coming from over there are more likely just extensions of general american night votes.
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 7/11/2006 1:58:19 AM | message detail
Yay, an interesting match!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 2:00:47 AM | message detail
They have the internet in Korea, I hear. I'd bet that compared to even the normal launch prices in Europe importing a Japanese PS2 to Korea shouldn't be that hard.

Hmm... perhaps this is why so many Koreans play StarCraft in the first place. They didn't have consoles and for along ass time there were hardly and good games released on the PC. So obvious!
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transience | Posted 7/11/2006 2:13:13 AM | message detail
this match is all over the place.. probably because of the low amount of votes coming in. still, I can't remember a match fluctuating like this so much.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/11/2006 2:14:39 AM | message detail
This match has been following the same pattern for a while now.

WC slowly builds up lead, GTA stalls, GTA begins cutting into lead, WC gets a pretty big vote spike, rinse and repeat.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/11/2006 2:16:37 AM | message detail
The asian economics crisis (commnly known as imf here) hit South Korea harder than any other country back in 1997, so naturally people stopped playing games I guess, aside from PC games that didnt require $500 videocards to run. Plus the government banned majority of Japanese imports including videogames back in the 90s probably nailed the coffin for the console industry. Oh yeah that and the optical fiber cables. I agree with you, multiplayer games were horrible for PC before perhaps Warcraft 2. I find it funny that CJayC had to mention voting trends from Korea, because we are probably too insignificant in numbers to make any difference on gamefaqs, there must've been a lot of cheating/stuffing accusations made.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/11/2006 2:18:54 AM | message detail
GTA's taken 54 vote away in the past 15 minutes. It might be able to keep this up until the real morning vote begins to kick in. Warcraft only has a 405 vote lead, so it shouldn't take much for GTA to get the lead back if the day vote favors GTA by a bit.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/11/2006 2:19:54 AM | message detail
there must've been a lot of cheating/stuffing accusations made.

You have no idea.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/11/2006 2:20:57 AM | message detail
Heh. They both gained an even amount of votes that update.

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rpgapzx | Posted 7/11/2006 2:21:29 AM | message detail
WC slowly builds up lead, GTA stalls, GTA begins cutting into lead, WC gets a pretty big vote spike, rinse and repeat.

Not that I advocate jumping to forgone conclusions; however, in a way it is eerily similar to the whole barrier system we had with Kefka/Vercetti but in almost a reverse way.
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/11/2006 2:23:35 AM | message detail
While percents mean nothing in updates with low votals, GTA's 57.78% the update before is the highest 5min update of the match.
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Today: Bracket: GTA Vote: Warcraft
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/11/2006 2:27:49 AM | message detail
" there must've been a lot of cheating/stuffing accusations made."

Well there was cheating. Someone had to do it, which means some idiot has to blame a random person just 'cause.
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