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transience | Posted 7/10/2006 10:09:50 PM | message detail
Regular polls like that shouldn't be an indicator. It only got 58,000 votes. These matches have almost double that.

if that's not good enough for ya, I can point to 46.5% vs. SSBM. I can't imagine WoW naturally getting that kind of support.

either way, WoW in a Game Contest would be crazy to see.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 10:09:59 PM | message detail
I do find the fact that this match has THIS many votes a bit suspect.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 10:10:03 PM | message detail
Regular polls like that shouldn't be an indicator. It only got 58,000 votes. These matches have almost double that.

I know it's not an indicator of strength, but Warcraft has flopped in any poll we've had here, and GTA's games have done nothing but impress.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/10/2006 10:10:06 PM | message detail
And Wind Waker started building its lead around 7:30 in the morning.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/10/2006 10:10:17 PM | message detail
I'm totally posting an OG Loc quote in the next topic >_>
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Eggplant Lord | Posted 7/10/2006 10:10:48 PM | message detail
Less than 150 ;-;

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Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/10/2006 10:11:03 PM | message detail
With any luck, GTA will show us the first match of this contest which actual changes from night to day votes.


I'm really going to sleep now!
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Applause Sign | Posted 7/10/2006 10:11:06 PM | message detail
Another 25 get knocked off.... slow and steady, but WC seems to have grabbed the momentum.

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/10/2006 10:11:07 PM | message detail
I don't trust the poll of the days for WoW. I'm sure theres alot more players here that didin't even bother to answer.
DeepHyren12 | Posted 7/10/2006 10:11:27 PM | message detail
"I've got to wonder if GTA anti-voting is a serious factor here, on top of the rallying. I mean, the series has had two runners-up and one winner of GotY, and it's performing like THIS?"

That's because GOTY or any non-contest polls are meaningless, and I have no idea why the analysis crew keeps bringing them up. Lol FFX doubles SSBM.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 10:12:13 PM | message detail
If GTA does better with the day vote though, it'll probably win decisively. The fact that there's only one night vote now doesn't bode well for Starcraft-esque entries.

But we've never seen WC in action, so who knows what it'll do?
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Tjian | Posted 7/10/2006 10:12:14 PM | message detail
I just threw in two votes for Warcraft with this account and a friends. You can blame me for the rallying.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 10:12:37 PM | message detail
In 2001, there's no doubt that FFX would've beaten SSBM and handily at that. Square's presence was still very heavy then.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/10/2006 10:12:59 PM | message detail
It's worth noting that Vercetti came back from down 1100 against Kefka, a Square character on what is essentially Square's home site. This match may not be over yet.

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Applause Sign | Posted 7/10/2006 10:13:02 PM | message detail
BREAKING NEWS:

There is no hawaiian t-shirt in this pic. GTA is going to lose for sure.

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Tai | Posted 7/10/2006 10:13:42 PM | message detail
358 to 384 for GTA.
742 in all for 01:10.
48.25% for GTA. :-(

It's slowed down a bit...but GTA's still losing votes.
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Sir Bormun | Posted 7/10/2006 10:13:51 PM | message detail
I don't understand why everyone thought this was going to be a blowout. Blizzard has never failed to impress in these contests (except with Kerrigan, but that's understandable). GTA, however... Tenpenny bombed. Vercetti's been underwhelming in every contest, just barely squeaking by fairly weak opponents. And GTA: VC only beat KOTOR 60-40. I'm surprised that Warcraft actually has a shot to win, really... but I have it in my bracket, so I ain't complaining.

Still, nice to see another fun match.
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swirIdude | Posted 7/10/2006 10:13:58 PM | message detail
GTA only has half the Italian power that SMB had, which explains the weak performance.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/10/2006 10:14:16 PM | message detail
I can't help but think that GTA will do really well during the day just because of the type of series it is and who it appeals to. WarCraft strikes me as something that would do really well at night whereas GTA would do really well during the day. I suppose we'll find out soon enough though ...

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 10:14:20 PM | message detail
It's worth noting that Vercetti came back from down 1100 against Kefka, a Square character on what is essentially Square's home site.

It's worth noting that Kefka almost lost to Pac-Man, who is a jobber...and that Vercetti should have been winning for most of the match in the first place.

...but I see what you're getting at.
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swirIdude | Posted 7/10/2006 10:14:27 PM | message detail
Vercetti's been underwhelming in every contest, just barely squeaking by fairly weak opponents.

DK was not weak.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 10:15:10 PM | message detail
Odd that you excuse Blizzard's one failure of a CHARACTER entrant but then use GTA's character in the opposite sense. Honestly, 46-47% on SSBM is pretty good.
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Tai | Posted 7/10/2006 10:15:27 PM | message detail
There is no hawaiian t-shirt in this pic. GTA is going to lose for sure.

Not to mention CJayC attacked Kefka for a massive damage of 2400 for cheating. :-)
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 10:15:28 PM | message detail
-43 votes
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 10:15:52 PM | message detail
DK was not weak.

Except he is a choke artist.
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swirIdude | Posted 7/10/2006 10:16:10 PM | message detail
Warcraft has brought it down to 106.

QUICK WITHOUT THINKING: At what time does Warcraft take the lead, if at all?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 10:16:17 PM | message detail
Focusing on only GAMES, Vice City got 46.5% on SSBM, which is *damn* good. The only indicator of a flop were GTA's characters, and it's never been thought of as a very character-centric game.

But in the future you know they'll say "the writing was on the walls"...
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 10:16:29 PM | message detail
Looks like at least one lead change is inevitable. The question is...will GTA fight back when it loses the lead?
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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/10/2006 10:16:52 PM | message detail
Well, does anyone remember how Vice City or, more likely, San Andreas did during the day in the GotY polls?
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 10:17:23 PM | message detail
No, GTA will continue to fall if Warcraft has either the day or night vote. It'll then stabilize, so says previous Blizzard performances.
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Tai | Posted 7/10/2006 10:17:27 PM | message detail
359 to 402 for GTA.
761 votes in 01:15 update.
47.17% for GTA. :-(

ACTIVATE 100-VOTE BARRIER!!!!
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BeTheMan | Posted 7/10/2006 10:17:32 PM | message detail
I'd say Warcraft will be in the lead by 1:30
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/10/2006 10:17:42 PM | message detail
Warcraft takes the lead in 3 updates, and builds overnight. GTA then plays catch-up once morning hits and passes eventually.

Oh, and Asia FTL
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NewLib | Posted 7/10/2006 10:17:49 PM | message detail
I will say it again. Both World of Warcraft and Warcraft II/III are stronger than most people thought coming into this contest.

I dont think this match is because of a GTA weakness.
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Sir Bormun | Posted 7/10/2006 10:18:07 PM | message detail
DK was not weak.

Eh. He sorta was in 2k3. 62-38 on Vyse, and all. And I think Arcadia was weaker then than it was the year after that. Maybe he's stronger now, but you can't judge anyone all that well over how well they do against MC. He's a bit of a special case.
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Tai | Posted 7/10/2006 10:18:15 PM | message detail
QUICK WITHOUT THINKING: At what time does Warcraft take the lead, if at all?

1:35
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 10:19:51 PM | message detail
Donkey Kong is the ultimate choker in the contest, few will argue.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 10:20:12 PM | message detail
-40 votes
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NewLib | Posted 7/10/2006 10:20:18 PM | message detail
The thing with this match is Warcraft is the first series we have seen where it really does have two COMPLETELY different fanbases.
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swirIdude | Posted 7/10/2006 10:20:49 PM | message detail
-46 votes, actually.

We're down to a 60 VOTE MARGIN! Looks like this contest WILL deliver a good match!
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/10/2006 10:21:17 PM | message detail
*lights 9-minute fuse on massive amounts of TNT*
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/10/2006 10:21:23 PM | message detail
It'll take the lead at 1:30.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 10:21:23 PM | message detail
Questions: How long have GTA and WC been around as series?

And when did they become popular?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 10:22:18 PM | message detail
If diversity of fanbase is the reason people are trying to use for this performance, then Final Fantasy is going to absolutely WRECK the competition. Like, 60/40 type destruction on Zelda.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 7/10/2006 10:22:31 PM | message detail
The Castlevania factor rides on?
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Tai | Posted 7/10/2006 10:23:02 PM | message detail
353 to 399 for GTA.
755 more votes in 01:20.
46.75% for GTA......
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 10:23:32 PM | message detail
Questions: How long have GTA and WC been around as series?

And when did they become popular?


Warcraft since 1993, didn't become REALLY popular until WC2 was released in 1995.

GTA was released in 1997 and was a pretty big hit (million seller) but didn't reach gargantuan proportions until GTA3 in 2001.
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swirIdude | Posted 7/10/2006 10:23:51 PM | message detail
I'd say GTA was around longer, at least it seems that way to me based on when I learned of them. I would imagine GTA and WC got popular at the release of their third installments.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 10:24:07 PM | message detail
Sorry, WarCraft has been around since 1994.
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TheSwizzle | Posted 7/10/2006 10:25:05 PM | message detail
Warcraft now leads.
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