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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 308

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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/10/2006 9:31:05 PM | message detail
Now both are down to the mid 400s.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/10/2006 9:31:08 PM | message detail
I hate Blizzard entries. I hate them.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/10/2006 9:31:10 PM | message detail
And I fail to see how vote rallying is cheating. What happened in Kefka/Vercetti was cheating. What happened in Mario/Cloud 2k2 was rallying.


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Silencer S | Posted 7/10/2006 9:31:36 PM | message detail
Storm, Earth and Fire... Heed my call...

I am the son of the wind and rain,
Thunder beckons and I heed the call.
If I die upon this day,
In battle I will fall.

Hear me brothers gather up the wolves, (howl)
To battle, we will ride.
Wardrums echo the beating heart,
Pounding from inside.

STORM
Black clouds fill the sky.
EARTH
I hear my battle cry.
FIRE
Thunder will bring forth...
DEATH
From the power of the Horde...

Farseer to the Warsong clan,
To no matter will I kneel.
Feel the power and the energy,
For the black blood, honor and steel.

I feel the fire burning in my veins,
Lightning strikes at my command.
By storm and earth, axe and fire,
We come to claim this land.

STORM
Black clouds fill the sky.
EARTH
I hear my battle cry.
FIRE
Thunder will bring forth...
DEATH
From the power of the Horde...

-guitar solo-

Yeeeeaaaahhhh!

Surrounded by the enemy,
The wolf among the hounds.
Thunder turns to silence it-
Took the hundred to bring me down.

Wolf brothers falling at my side,
With honor I will die.
Upon the Altar of the Storms,
I will be reborn.

STORM
Black clouds fill the sky.
EARTH
I hear my battle cry.
FIRE
Thunder will bring forth...
DEATH
For I have been reborn.


STORM
EARTH
FIRE
DEATH (death sound)
The power of the Horde........

(battle sounds/axes clashing)

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Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/10/2006 9:31:37 PM | message detail
I actually meant vote stuffing, not rallying.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/10/2006 9:31:54 PM | message detail
Rallying isn't cheating. I'm totally rallying for GTA.
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/10/2006 9:31:59 PM | message detail
It's not cheating so much as lame.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/10/2006 9:32:17 PM | message detail
RECORD UPDATES

Largest Vote Gaps (by vote total)

July 2006 - Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Super Mario Brothers [108512] vs (8) Madden NFL [9168] - 99334
July 2006 - Hyrule Round 1 - (1) The Legend of Zelda [100163] vs (8) Civilization [11169] - 88994
Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (3) The Legend of Zelda [92894] vs (14) Adventure [4686] - 88208
Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (1) Link [92998] vs (16) AiAi [8802] - 84196
Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (2) Mega Man [91905] vs (15) Mr. Resetti [11400] - 80505
Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (1) Cloud [94086] vs (16) CATS [14168] - 79918
Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (6) Link to the Past [86690] vs (11) Gunstar Heroes [8418] - 78272
Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (1) Mario [89189] vs (16) Captain Olimar [11678] - 77511
Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (1) Final Fantasy 7 [91749] vs (16) Suikoden II [15401] - 76348
Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (4) Final Fantasy [86938] vs (13) Pitfall! [12256] - 74682

Largest Vote Gaps (by percentage)

Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (3) The Legend of Zelda [95.2%] vs (14) Adventure [4.8%] - 90.4%
Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (2) Solid Snake [94.3%] vs (15) Tanner [5.7%] - 88.6%
Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (6) Mega Man [92.3%] vs (11) Ms. Pac Man [7.7%] - 84.6%
July 2006 - Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Super Mario Brothers [92.21%] vs (8) Madden NFL [7.79%] - 84.42%
Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (6) Mega Man [91.84%] vs (3) Serious Sam [8.16%] - 83.68%
Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (1) Link [91.35%] vs (16) AiAi [8.65%] - 82.70%
Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (6) Link to the Past [91.15%] vs (11) Gunstar Heroes [8.85%] - 82.3%
July 2006 - Hyrule Round 1 - (1) The Legend of Zelda [89.97%] vs (8) Civilization [10.03%] - 79.94%
Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (2) Mega Man [88.96%] vs (15) Mr. Resetti [11.04%] - 77.92%
Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (1) Mario [88.42%] vs (16) Captain Olimar [11.58%] - 76.84%

Largest Individual Vote Totals (by vote total)

July 2006 - Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Super Mario Brothers - 108512

July 2006 - Hyrule Round 1 - (1) The Legend of Zelda - 100163
Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (1) Cloud - 94086
Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (1) Link - 92998
Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (3) The Legend of Zelda - 92894
Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (2) Mega Man - 91905
Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (1) Final Fantasy 7 - 91749
Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (2) Sephiroth - 90364
Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (2) Sephiroth - 89595
Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (1) Mario - 89189

Smallest Individual Vote Totals (by vote total)

Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (15) Tanner - 4492
Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (14) Adventure - 4686
Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (11) Ms. Pac Man - 5257
Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (3) Serious Sam - 5414
Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (11) Gunstar Heroes - 8418
Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (10) Gabe Logan - 8602
Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (16) AiAi - 8802
July 2006 - Mushroom Round 1 - (8) Madden NFL - 9168
Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 2 - (6) Donkey Kong - 9559
Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (16) CATS - 10025

Just Missed: Total votes for the poll came in 11th place, just behind Snake/Mega Man from 2003.

Uh... yeah, Madden got owned in record proportions. Over 108,000 and almost a 100,000 margin of victory? Jesus.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 9:32:18 PM | message detail
Board 8: OMG WE NEED A WARCRAFT CHARACTER FOR 2K6
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 9:32:25 PM | message detail
And I fail to see how vote rallying is cheating. What happened in Kefka/Vercetti was cheating. What happened in Mario/Cloud 2k2 was rallying.

SC/SSBM was the real culprit of cheating.
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NewLib | Posted 7/10/2006 9:32:30 PM | message detail
I dont care what anyone says.

Warcraft II and III are only behind Monkey Island and Star Fox 64 in Quotability
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 9:32:53 PM | message detail
I just hope WC doesn't win because then we'll have to listen to people claim rallying is such a huge factor forever. If WC wins, it'll do it on its own strength, but so many people will fail to realize that.

The unfortunate truth.


Agreed. Most phenomenom we point out here besides game releases have an effect, but usually a minimal one. People draw the couple extra % of votes way out of proportion.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 9:33:01 PM | message detail
Mega Man/Ms. Pac-Man FTW!
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/10/2006 9:33:07 PM | message detail
Board 8: OMG WE NEED A WARCRAFT CHARACTER FOR 2K6

I just stabbed myself at the thought. Please, WarCraft, do not win ...

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Applause Sign | Posted 7/10/2006 9:33:23 PM | message detail
Wow.. that's not a disruptive post at all. I could care less who wins this match, I just hope it goes down to the absolute wire. I'd rather GTA win just so I don't have to listen to this boards ****, but I just want a down to the wire match, the winner winning by 13 votes, then the board yelling "LOL I TOLD YOU SO HOW THE **** DID YOU THINK _______ COULD WIN? LOL WAT A NUB"

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transience | Posted 7/10/2006 9:33:34 PM | message detail
yeah, rallying is just stupid. heck, Ceej expressed his displeasure at PGC in Mario/Cloud. it may not be outright cheating, but it's definitely a stupid thing to do.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/10/2006 9:33:45 PM | message detail
Yes! Mega Man vs. Ms. Pac Man!
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/10/2006 9:33:57 PM | message detail
I'd rather GTA win just so I don't have to listen to this boards ****, but I just want a down to the wire match, the winner winning by 13 votes, then the board yelling "LOL I TOLD YOU SO HOW THE **** DID YOU THINK _______ COULD WIN? LOL WAT A NUB"

XD
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Ed Bellis | Posted 7/10/2006 9:34:11 PM | message detail
I like the concept of rallying. Makes it more unpredictable.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/10/2006 9:34:13 PM | message detail
In this match, that extra 2% could be the difference. That's why I'm enjoying the closeness right now.


TuRtLe
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NewLib | Posted 7/10/2006 9:34:14 PM | message detail
Id agree we might need either Warcraft II or World of Warcraft in the next Games contest, but really Warcraft has even more of a problem than Starcraft does about not having one main character...
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/10/2006 9:34:31 PM | message detail
"Our sacred grove is being desecrated!"

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/10/2006 9:34:41 PM | message detail
yeah, rallying is just stupid. heck, Ceej expressed his displeasure at PGC in Mario/Cloud. it may not be outright cheating, but it's definitely a stupid thing to do.

Indeed.

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Slowflake | Posted 7/10/2006 9:34:45 PM | message detail
HM is right. We'll already have enough of basically forcing ourselves into nominating Nightmare, who we now know will probably be a giant turd.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 9:35:16 PM | message detail
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/10/2006 9:35:28 PM | message detail
I hope Warcraft wins, to make up for my Halo pick.

And I won't gloat, because I'm almost as surprised as many of you that it's this close.


TuRtLe
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/10/2006 9:35:35 PM | message detail
...The % not changing had me puzzled for a second there.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/10/2006 9:35:54 PM | message detail
Wow, GTA got exactly 51.8% of the vote that update.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/10/2006 9:36:19 PM | message detail
Well, that's a good sign for GTA.

And yes, even I'm surprised that I'm rooting for GTA. Not my type of game at all.
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Mario's not fun btw and only sells on nostalgia. I mean, you're just walking from one side of a level to the other at a tenth of Sonic's speed... -vego
SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 9:36:39 PM | message detail
I won't make any predictions until tomorrow morning, the board vote will be over and we'll see who masters the day and night.
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NewLib | Posted 7/10/2006 9:36:49 PM | message detail
So which game is stronger: Warcraft II or Warcraft III or World of Warcraft.

WoW has the MMORPG aspect.
Warcraft III is newer than II but II is more beloved.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/10/2006 9:36:53 PM | message detail
I'd expect Illidan to do much better than Kerrigan. Warcraft 3 is alot more character focused than Starcraft.

Although if Tassadar managed to get into the contest, I would die with glee.


TuRtLe
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/10/2006 9:37:13 PM | message detail
Good god I love this match. This is the most excited I've been about a match since any Mario/Crono bout.

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rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 9:37:17 PM | message detail
In this match, that extra 2% could be the difference. That's why I'm enjoying the closeness right now.

Your response indicates you do not understand the point of the statement. Clearly, we have seen close matches. That is not the issue. You need to read into the point. The two men I quoted are shaking their heads in agreement.

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Today: Bracket: GTA Vote: Warcraft
Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/10/2006 9:37:20 PM | message detail
This is a rare case where I'm really rooting for the "favorite." I love Blizzard, but GTA gets a lot of irrational hate.

And I want at least a perfect first round.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/10/2006 9:39:06 PM | message detail
Good god I love this match. This is the most excited I've been about a match since any Mario/Crono bout.

I don't care about either one, so my excitement is completely no there for this match. Just my ever growing dislike of Blizzard entries. >>

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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/10/2006 9:39:47 PM | message detail
At least Blizzard keeps these contests exciting.

Gotta love them for that.
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Applause Sign | Posted 7/10/2006 9:39:50 PM | message detail
The only thing that makes me want Warcraft to win is I don't want to see a perfect bracket in a 32 entrant contest. I want GTA to win, so this board will shut up about "teh evil blizzard ralying wtf lol." And I want warcraft to win based on personal preference. Only like WoW, but I've never found GTA games to be worth much more than killing time. It's fun, and gets far too much hate, but it's not my type of game.

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NewLib | Posted 7/10/2006 9:39:54 PM | message detail
Im going for Warcraft because Warcraft II was the first game which I was addicted to the online play. Also it pretty much set the standard for online games.
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transience | Posted 7/10/2006 9:40:03 PM | message detail
yeah, I don't really care either way, with the exception of my bracket. which is probably lost anyway.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/10/2006 9:40:16 PM | message detail
Ughhhh, guys, be sure to take plenty of screenshots for me while I'm gone.


TuRtLe
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rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 9:40:29 PM | message detail
Toe to Toe update.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/10/2006 9:40:38 PM | message detail
Increased the lead by one there!!!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 9:40:42 PM | message detail
This isn't so bad...if Warcraft pulls off the miracle, it has no chance against SMB. So really, all we have to look out for is it being potentially overrated (yeah, if Warcraft turns out to be the fourth strongest series in the stats, I ain't buying it).
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Aprosenf | Posted 7/10/2006 9:40:46 PM | message detail
And GTA adds another vote onto its lead =)
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 9:40:57 PM | message detail
Street Fighter will demolish Elder Scrolls on name recognition alone.

Indeed.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/10/2006 9:41:05 PM | message detail
I want GTA to win, so this board will shut up about "teh evil blizzard ralying wtf lol."

That is a good reason, as is me getting this match, and not having the board hype up another damn Blizzard character for the character battle.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/10/2006 9:41:15 PM | message detail
And how else would you expleain the random vote shifts without rallying?


TuRtLe
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Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1
Applause Sign | Posted 7/10/2006 9:41:49 PM | message detail
WTF? Stall. Gain. Gain. Loss. Gain. Stall. Loss. Yet overall GTA keep increasing. I really hope no one ever gets more than a 1500 vote lead.

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Tai | Posted 7/10/2006 9:41:58 PM | message detail
50.06% for GTA on 00:40 update.

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