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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 308

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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/10/2006 8:07:57 PM | message detail
Vote totals are being discussed, so, what about the effect of the poll starting time? A coincidence that 2k3 and now 2k6 have the highest vote totals?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 8:08:21 PM | message detail
But you have to take into consideration that Halo transcends XBox ownership. I know lots of people who have played that game with friends despite never owning an XBox.

Sorta like GoldenEye, really.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 7/10/2006 8:09:01 PM | message detail
it has nothing to do with the start time, it has to do with the poll position. they were on the top of the page in both years.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 8:10:13 PM | message detail
I wouldn't say it has nothing to do with starting time, but yeah, being right there in your face (thanks for upsizing pictures, Ceej!) when you come to the site certainly helps.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 8:11:14 PM | message detail
I don't think the polling time has that much of an effect: it's still open 24 hours meaning anyone has the time to vote. But I still love the new polling time because I don't have to stay up.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/10/2006 8:12:25 PM | message detail
Or if Starcraft had alot less cheat votes than we once thought and actually has some latent strength in these contests.


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therealmnm | Posted 7/10/2006 8:12:29 PM | message detail
But you have to take into consideration that Halo transcends XBox ownership. I know lots of people who have splayed that game with friends despite never owning an XBox.

And SSBM doesn't transcend Gamecube ownership? Come on now... Sometimes, I think you sit at your computer laughing maniacally and enjoying bringing an argument out of me. <_<;
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steve illumina | Posted 7/10/2006 8:12:56 PM | message detail
Of the 16 matches in round 1, the only pick I truly worried about at all after submitting my bracket was Warcraft. This bracket was the first one I made that I did not go back and change anything on. I also made it the very last day entries were accepted...cause I was out of town for the weeks prior.

So my 9-0 perfect is on the line...and I really feel if Warcraft wins, I will go 16-0 in Round 1.

Now I aint a GTA hater by any means. Its a solid set of games for sure. But kiddies worship it too much. Like the Halos...it needs to be brought down by something worth a little more. That being Warcraft here.

jonthomson I believe said Warcraft would either flame out or be like Starcraft was when it had its 15 min of fame and shock us all. I truly feel the latter will happen cause I always felt Warcraft was loved more than StarCraft...and if it dont, I will be disappointed sure, but I will have no regrets.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 8:13:35 PM | message detail
I never said anything about SSBM, did I? That was a counter to the idea that Halo doesn't have a large fanbase presence here because of relatively poor XBox ownership.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 8:14:34 PM | message detail
Large enough, I should say. I wouldn't expect SSBM to break 55% on Halo in a direct match, to be quite honest.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
therealmnm | Posted 7/10/2006 8:15:02 PM | message detail
But I never said that Halo didn't have a large fanbase. I said there is still a large chunk of the site that doesn't care for the Xbox and anything dealing with it. Xbox popularity may have increased, but that group still remains...
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/10/2006 8:17:00 PM | message detail
Hey steve, thanks alot for eliminating me from the Guru >_<

I'm guessing we had the same bracket aside from Castlevania/Halo. Did you have Castlevania beating KH though?


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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/10/2006 8:19:06 PM | message detail
40 minutes before Warcraft gets owned!
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Kratos_42 | Posted 7/10/2006 8:20:13 PM | message detail
I have KH winning that one. I don't regret it. Board 8 is far too cynic and crusty to always be right. I think it'll be wrong here.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 8:20:42 PM | message detail
Xbox popularity may have increased, but that group still remains...

And Halo's still close to SSBM in spite of that. If anything, that's a testament to the dedication of the fanbase Halo has here.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 8:21:38 PM | message detail
Well, that's the thing -- yeah, SSB certainly has the edge with widespread popularity as opposed to Halo.

Thing is, Castlevania is the same way. You'll find a whole lot of people, even on this site, that have never played a Castlevania game (not to the same extreme as SotN or Alucard, but it's always been more niche than not). Everyone knows what Sonic is.

I mean, I would certainly hope Halo/Sonic would be a foregone conclusion by now...
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Tai | Posted 7/10/2006 8:21:39 PM | message detail
Starcraft screwed the Spring 2004 X-Stats. I don't give a **** about it.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/10/2006 8:22:39 PM | message detail
So who thinks people that screwed up on Castlevania/Halo still have a shot? I for one do.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 8:24:10 PM | message detail
If you had Halo losing to KH, there's still a chance that you'll end up in a big tie for first place if that's the only thing you get wrong. Those that had Halo going to the third round, though...fuggedaboutit.
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steve illumina | Posted 7/10/2006 8:26:43 PM | message detail
Hey steve, thanks alot for eliminating me from the Guru >_<

I'm guessing we had the same bracket aside from Castlevania/Halo. Did you have Castlevania beating KH though?


I got KH beating CV...and I still think it will...Square Legions rule this site...Nuff said.
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Applause Sign | Posted 7/10/2006 8:45:18 PM | message detail
I got KH beating CV...and I still think it will...Square Legions rule this site...Nuff said.

*Brain explodes*

And yeah, what the crunk is up with the pic not being up yet?

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Phediuk | Posted 7/10/2006 8:45:57 PM | message detail
Looks like the 100,000 vote difference is going to happen after all! :D
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/10/2006 8:46:34 PM | message detail
Is there a chance tomorrow's match will be delayed?
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/10/2006 8:46:35 PM | message detail
I'm confident Kingdom Hearts is gonna get to round 3 and job out to Metal Gear.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 8:46:45 PM | message detail
So who thinks people that screwed up on Castlevania/Halo still have a shot? I for one do.

It all depends on what else you got right and if you don't make any more big screw-ups.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/10/2006 8:47:18 PM | message detail
For the record, this match is now the 11th most popular poll of all-time, passing Squall/Luigi.
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transience | Posted 7/10/2006 8:47:34 PM | message detail
there's been situations with no match pic before. they usually get uploaded a couple of minutes into the match. the poll will go on regardless of the picture.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/10/2006 8:48:37 PM | message detail
Is there a chance tomorrow's match will be delayed?

Why would it be delayed?

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Master Moltar | Posted 7/10/2006 8:48:38 PM | message detail
PROPHETIC VISION

GTA with 63%

And I remember Squall/Kirby had no match pic for a while after the poll went up.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/10/2006 8:49:19 PM | message detail
From Applause Sign Posted 7/10/2006 11:45:18 PM
I got KH beating CV...and I still think it will...Square Legions rule this site...Nuff said.

*Brain explodes*

And yeah, what the crunk is up with the pic not being up yet?


That might've been true 3 years ago, but this site has evolved into a mainly Nintendo mode since Square has yet to put out a good game since FF8.


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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/10/2006 8:49:23 PM | message detail
Sephiroth/Ramirez is the last time I remember starting a match without the picture. It's rare, but it happens.
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cyko | Posted 7/10/2006 8:50:22 PM | message detail
so, am i the only person here that thinks GTA will run away with this overhyped match and double Warcraft?

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/10/2006 8:50:25 PM | message detail
That might've been true 3 years ago, but this site has evolved into a mainly Nintendo mode since Square has yet to put out a good game since FF8.

Final Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts, and Kingdom Hearts II are all quite good.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/10/2006 8:50:38 PM | message detail
Why would it be delayed?

I didn't realize he would put the match up without a pic.
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steve illumina | Posted 7/10/2006 8:50:50 PM | message detail
cyko: yes u are lol
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/10/2006 8:51:04 PM | message detail
so, am i the only person here that thinks GTA will run away with this overhyped match and double Warcraft?

I'll be honest--70%+ wouldn't surprise me.
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therealmnm | Posted 7/10/2006 8:51:19 PM | message detail
And Halo's still close to SSBM in spite of that. If anything, that's a testament to the dedication of the fanbase Halo has here.

Ummmmm, all signs point to Halo being overrated. And my whole point was that there's a large portion of this site that doesn't care for the Xbox at all, so against any strong opponent from a more widespread base, Master Chief and Halo are already at a disadvantage. I have no doubts that Castlevania took advantage of that.

In Sonic/SSB, Sonic does not have that advantage, as both series have fanbases that are pretty large on GameFAQs. That's the only point I was trying to bring up amidst all the "Castlevania Factor" hoopla. It wasn't all Castlevania in that match...
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 8:51:28 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts, and Kingdom Hearts II are all quite good.

People also forget about Vagrant Story and FF9 (I liked it).

Chrono Cross is also great if you ignore the "Chrono" title.
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Eggplant Lord | Posted 7/10/2006 8:52:17 PM | message detail
From cyko | Posted 7/10/2006 8:50:22 PM | #132
so, am i the only person here that thinks GTA will run away with this overhyped match and double Warcraft?

No, I think that's rather probable <_<

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/10/2006 8:52:23 PM | message detail
I didn't realize he would put the match up without a pic.

The match picture has gone up many times right when the match starts. This is nothing new.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/10/2006 8:52:27 PM | message detail
Halo is overrated, yes, but I still say it gets at least 45% on SSBM. That's really not that bad, considering what's working against it.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/10/2006 8:52:33 PM | message detail
Chrono Cross is also great if you ignore the "Chrono" title.

And the horrid battle system.
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steve illumina | Posted 7/10/2006 8:52:55 PM | message detail
Dont forget FFTA also...solid game.
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Applause Sign | Posted 7/10/2006 8:53:02 PM | message detail
That might've been true 3 years ago, but this site has evolved into a mainly Nintendo mode since Square has yet to put out a good game since FF8.

Do you even ****ing read posts before you respond?

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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 8:53:11 PM | message detail
I actually liked the battle system, to each his own though.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/10/2006 8:53:21 PM | message detail
From: cyko | Posted: 7/10/2006 8:50:22 PM | Message Detail
so, am i the only person here that thinks GTA will run away with this overhyped match and double Warcraft?


Nope. I'm half-expecting it myself.
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Aprosenf | Posted 7/10/2006 8:53:29 PM | message detail
Apro's Half-Assed Analysis (AHAA)

Hmm, a tough match. GTA:VC did pretty darn well against our beloved SSBM, though Starcraft did slightly better. But if you think Warcraft is even close to Starcraft, let me take the time to heartily laugh at you. GTA should slip by with 52-ish percent of the vote.
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Applause Sign | Posted 7/10/2006 8:53:35 PM | message detail
MATCH PIC'D

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse10.jpg

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Master Moltar | Posted 7/10/2006 8:54:08 PM | message detail
No Comment @ the pic
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swirIdude | Posted 7/10/2006 8:54:10 PM | message detail
QUICK WITHOUT THINKING: If Starcraft were a series, what % would it get against GTA?
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