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| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/9/2006 9:07:16 AM | message detail |
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Hope so.... Then again, you don't have a perfect bracket, so maybe I should just trust myself.... Heh. Having a perfect bracket at this point isn't really all that impressive. You had to call one upset. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Kratos_42 | Posted 7/9/2006 9:15:47 AM | message detail |
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That's a good point. Though, still. --- He wields the blade of a fallen hero, but now he is the hero, and it is the others who fall. He is rising. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/9/2006 9:42:32 AM | message detail |
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Mm. Kingdom Hearts is doing exactly what I expected of it - disappointing. I like that. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/RPGuy.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/9/2006 9:44:22 AM | message detail |
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Castlevania > KH is one of the things I need for my bracket to even stand a chance anymore. The other one is Warcraft > GTA TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/9/2006 10:03:44 AM | message detail |
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I've decided that, even if I only come up one point short, that I
likely won't win any prize-money. Therefore, **** it -- CV > KH, TES
> SF, MG > LoZ, SMB > FF, whatever...I just want big worthy upsets (notice I didn't say Warcraft > GTA). --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/9/2006 10:06:03 AM | message detail |
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...yeah, KH lost percentage with the day vote. I'm going to go shoot myself now. --- Commit it to memory. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/9/2006 10:09:18 AM | message detail |
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The one time I actually put faith in anything related to Kingdom Hearts is now sunk. --- * Is Dranze * |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/9/2006 10:24:21 AM | message detail |
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There's a very real chance CV could keep even or maybe even take the
day-vote from KH next round. Since CV made Halo rise only a little in percentage while KH -- while still good -- isn't AS good as Halo with the day-vote... ...essentially, I feel like this: if Castlevania ever gets a decent lead in the early parts of the night, it's over. Both the Game Contest and the Top 100 List have KH below Halo, and Halo has the better day-vote of the two. We also saw in the Game Contest (through this contest and our own intuition) that Halo/KH/SC were all over-rated through Starcraft and that C:SotN was under-rated thanks to GE/LoZ:OoT. KH is a newer series than Halo by over a year (though it does have three games instead of two, one being on a handheld), and -- oh boy, here comes some mockery for me -- C:SotN did outrank KH by one spot in the Top 100 List whereas it didn't outrank Halo. I would expect KH2 to do more for KH than Halo 2 did for Halo, but ultimately, it's looking more and more like a big game of catch-up for KH, and it doesn't look favorable for it. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/9/2006 10:47:39 AM | message detail |
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Percentage going up again, though getting the tripling seems *really* doubtful now. --- Commit it to memory. |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 7/9/2006 10:50:57 AM | message detail |
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How are we doing votals wise? --- Just Got Owned By Guru winner Voltch. |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/9/2006 11:18:31 AM | message detail |
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At the 14:15 mark, this match has 70122 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time: Zelda/Civilization - 69404 Pokemon/Star Ocean - 72308 Metal Gear/Soul Calibur - 70996 Castlevania/Halo - 72150 Kingdom Hearts may be disappointing with its percentage, but we should be looking at the 108-110k range for vote totals. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/9/2006 11:33:15 AM | message detail |
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And since somebody mentioned Dragon Quest, I figured I'd mention that
the series has done well with what few polls we have on it. Poll 2247 (01/05/2006) BEST OF 2005: Best PlayStation 2 Game 12415 21% Dragon Quest VIII 18166 30.73% God of War 3625 6.13% Guitar Hero 9386 15.88% Shadow of the Colossus 8430 14.26% Soul Calibur III 3127 5.29% Tekken 5 3972 6.72% WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2006 2nd place in GotY (without a close 3rd) is pretty good for DQVIII. After this, the polls get quite old though. Poll 495 (04/07/2001) Dragon Quest VII is the best selling PSX game of all time - in Japan. Would you buy it if it came out locally? 3385 34.23% Yes, I want it in English NOW! 2149 21.73% Probably, it must be a great game 2811 28.43% Maybe, I don't know enough about it 309 3.12% Probably not, I don't think I'd like it 1235 12.49% No, it doesn't interest me at all Poll 515 (04/27/2001) Dragon Warrior VII has finally been announced for the PSX. Will you buy it? 2323 25.31% Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes!!! Finally! 1846 20.11% Probably, it sounds like a good game 1815 19.77% Maybe, if it gets good reviews 1658 18.06% Probably not, it doesn't interest me 1538 16.75% No, I don't have a PSX or PS2 Poll 768 (01/09/2002) BEST OF 2001: Best PlayStation Game of the Year 815 3.91% Castlevania Chronicle 508 2.44% Digimon World 2 2596 12.46% Dragon Warrior VII 775 3.72% Fear Effect 2 7792 37.39% Final Fantasy Chronicles 462 2.22% Hoshigami 1712 8.21% MegaMan X5 219 1.05% Saiyuki 1071 5.14% Syphon Filter 3 1273 6.11% Tales of Destiny II 3287 15.77% Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 332 1.59% X-Men: Mutant Academy 2 Poll 700 (11/01/2001) What scheduled November release are you most looking forward to? 764 3.94% Arc the Lad Collection (PSX) 825 4.26% Capcom vs. SNK 2 (PS2) 1458 7.53% Dragon Warrior VII (PSX) 517 2.67% Dynasty Warriors 3 (PS2) 622 3.21% Halo (XBX) 955 4.93% Luigi's Mansion (GCN) 7660 39.55% Metal Gear Solid 2 (PS2) 674 3.48% Return to Castle Wolfenstein (PC) 253 1.31% SSX Tricky (PS2) 312 1.61% Syphon Filter 3 (PSX) 1921 9.92% Rogue Squadron 2 (GCN) 1671 8.63% WWF SmackDown! Just Bring It (PS2) 1738 8.97% None of the above Dragon Quest doubles up Halo!!!! Really though, this poll isn't fair since it's got MGS2 on it, and it had immense pre-release hype. Poll 677 (10/09/2001) Which of the remaining scheduled PlayStation releases are you most excited about? 1215 7.56% Arc the Lad Collection 1303 8.11% Castlevania Chronicle 273 1.7% Dragon Warrior IV 2314 14.41% Dragon Warrior VII 596 3.71% Hoshigami 2200 13.7% MegaMan X6 635 3.95% Spider-Man 2 1097 6.83% Syphon Filter 3 1518 9.45% Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 310 1.93% Twisted Metal: Small Brawl 332 2.07% Other 4268 26.57% They're still making games for it? Dragon Warrior VII did the best out of the games released in the post-PSX era. Dragon Quest > MMX > Castlevania?! Poll 559 (06/12/2001) Which upcoming big-name sequel are you most looking forward to? 1071 7.45% Dragon Warrior VII 5063 35.24% Final Fantasy X 3615 25.16% Metal Gear Solid 2 749 5.21% Phantasy Star Online Ver. 2 983 6.84% Shenmue II 1173 8.16% Sonic Adventure 2 797 5.55% Star Ocean 3 731 5.09% Tekken 4 186 1.29% Virtua Fighter 4 Hey, look! Sonic Adventure 2 did decently considering the competition! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/9/2006 11:48:26 AM | message detail |
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Hey, that means it must have let alot of people down so it could lose to Shenmue 2 and Eternal Darkness! =P --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/9/2006 11:49:43 AM | message detail |
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But then again, that means MGS2 let down a lot of people, too! Watch out for that upset against Fire Emblem, Metal Gear! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/9/2006 11:50:25 AM | message detail |
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I wanna see DQ get 35% on SSB <_< --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/9/2006 11:51:50 AM | message detail |
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Nobody's calling for MGS2 to be its series most popular game, either! A-ha! --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/9/2006 11:54:13 AM | message detail |
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"But MGS2 ranks above MGS in the stats!!!!" --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/9/2006 11:55:53 AM | message detail |
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Yes, but then people generally smartened up when they saw all the evidence. The same cannot be said about SA2B. !! --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/9/2006 11:58:28 AM | message detail |
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They used to. I thought it was obvious that Sonic's most popular game was S3&K, though...we've just never had any polls confirming it since Ceej won't group them together. Voters *will* group them together for this contest though, believe you me. SA2:B is Sonic's most popular non-Genesis game, though, and it's always had a hardcore following here. Hell, it's still on the Gamecube Top Ten. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/9/2006 11:59:17 AM | message detail |
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Heck, I'll go one further and say that S3&K would edge out the original SSB. I wouldn't even sweat about it, really. --- Commit it to memory. |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/9/2006 12:00:13 PM | message detail |
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There's no doubt in my mind that Castlevania would be doing better than
this against Harvest Moon. Now I just have to hope that KHII turned
many people from Kingdom Hearts likers into Kingdom Hearts lovers. --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/9/2006 12:01:08 PM | message detail |
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Yes, but then people generally smartened up when they saw all the evidence. "Oh, I bet that MGS wasn't even SFF'd all that much because it helps my argument to believe that." --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Zeekade | Posted 7/9/2006 12:03:42 PM | message detail |
| KH failing to get above 75% against HM = CV>KH. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/9/2006 12:04:22 PM | message detail |
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I said generally. With RE lookin' real low and MGS outranking MGS2 by
thirty-three spots though, on top of our suspicions and seeing Seph
beat the pre-mortal hell out of Liquid, anybody who listens will think
MGS > MGS2 now. You can't count people who don't listen. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/9/2006 12:06:54 PM | message detail |
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You're right. Some people just won't listen to reason. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Sir Chris | Posted 7/9/2006 12:14:29 PM | message detail |
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Kingdom Hearts doesn't know how to blow something out, frankly. The %
are fine for KH, it will be a very close match but I think KH takes it. --- Sir Chris, # 45 on the Best.Series.Ever leaderboard Next up: Kingdom Hearts Vs. Harvest Moon |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 7/9/2006 12:16:54 PM | message detail |
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The % is fine for pre-KH2 KH, but I would think that the series with
the top game this year could at LEAST triple a series like Harvest Moon. --- Just Got Owned By Guru winner Voltch. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/9/2006 12:18:58 PM | message detail |
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I still don't think there's much of a difference between Civilization
and Harvest Moon strength-wise (and I'd give the edge to HM)...then
with LoZ being a good deal stronger than MG and MG being a good deal
stronger than what we thought of KH before we saw MG/SC and CV/Halo, then having seen MG/SC and CV/Halo...I'm not surprised at all. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/9/2006 12:20:07 PM | message detail |
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Kingdom Hearts doesn't know how to blow something out, frankly. Neither does Ryo Hazuki. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/9/2006 12:22:15 PM | message detail |
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This might be another case of underestimating Kingdom Hearts's
opponents. I had a feeling that I overshot once I realized that Harvest
Moon had a game that sold half a million copies. I figured the series
had Suikoden-like sales. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/9/2006 12:31:04 PM | message detail |
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Oh, no doubt HM's been underestimated by a bunch of us (not as much as
Agent 47, but enough). But if you want me to consider it even in Soul
Calibur's league...well, yeah. Like I said, probably a hair above Suikoden. And I wouldn't want to call a MMX/Castlevania match at all. --- Commit it to memory. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/9/2006 12:32:23 PM | message detail |
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I'd be intrigued about picking Castlevania over Super Smash Brothers. But MMX over SSB...? Hmmm.... --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/9/2006 12:32:53 PM | message detail |
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Ya, Harvest Moon has no shot against Soul Calibur, but I think most of
us now realize there's nothing in the division with a shot against
Metal Gear. --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/9/2006 12:35:02 PM | message detail |
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Well, I suppose that happens when you underestimate the value of it being a Series
Contest, and MG has three very solid (pun intended) games to draw from
that actually have some diversity and debate amongst the fanbase about
what the best is. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/9/2006 12:35:03 PM | message detail |
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yo, I demand you record another sound bite for Mega Man/Mario Kart,
regardless of who wins. Preferably with you gloating/lamenting to the
Classic MM theme. --- Commit it to memory. |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/9/2006 12:35:46 PM | message detail |
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Might be a little tough (MM has a much faster theme than Halo, obviously), but I'll see what I can do. --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/9/2006 12:38:12 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man 2 Title Screen music, posthaste! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Aprosenf | Posted 7/9/2006 12:39:54 PM | message detail |
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Don't jump the gun on CV/KH just yet. HM is stronger than you think. I
think it's safe to say KH won't be beating MG, but it should still be
the favorite against CV. --- For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/9/2006 12:41:35 PM | message detail |
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I want to go back to Starcraft (again) since the past four days have
been big signs of it over-rating everything to hell and back: 1) Halo...Kingdom Hearts...Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker. Rank them in order. 2) What's the highest you could see any of them be? The lowest? 3) Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy Tactics, Goldeneye, and Castlevania: Symphony of the Night were all apparently behind some big SFF in the 32-64 Division. Would you take any of them over Halo/KH/LoZ:WW? If so, which ones? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/9/2006 12:47:28 PM | message detail |
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Wind Waker > Halo (not by much) > Kingdom Hearts (a decent margin behind) I'm thinking that StarCraft got the most...rallying, cheating, whatever you want to call it...against WW due to how far it was behind, and it obviously didn't need it against KH. I'm curious as to whether FFT got some rSFF against MGS. I'd easily take MGS over the likes of Halo, but I wouldn't be so quick to take FFT to do the same. It's certainly a strong game, but I don't see it being quite that strong. I'd consider a match against the original Kingdom Hearts though. Basically, I say MGS >= GE > FFT (indirectly) > Symphony of the Night --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| NewLib | Posted 7/9/2006 12:48:44 PM | message detail |
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I think Goldeneye is actually a beast to be honest. --- Where am I? |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/9/2006 12:48:52 PM | message detail |
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Don't jump the gun on CV/KH just yet. HM is stronger than you think.
I think it's safe to say KH won't be beating MG, but it should still be
the favorite against CV. I don't think there should be a favorite anymore. Most people figured Halo/KH would be close, and CV beat it worse than most people thought KH would. That may be because of CV's strength or Halo's weakness, we don't know yet, but the point still stands. Then, from there, newer series haven't been doing quite as hot as one would hope for -- if that line of thought continues to be true, keep in mind KH is over a year younger than Halo. Then, from there, since each series only had one game in the drop-down box for the Top 100 List, I feel obligated to note that Halo (#9) > C:SotN (#15) >= KH (#16)...so there's all sorts of fighting room for CV here. I'm favoring it next round, myself, but I'm not saying it should be the favorite -- I just think KH has lost its right to call itself the favorite. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/9/2006 12:50:36 PM | message detail |
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Herein lies the question: GoldenEye vs. Super Mario 64, who wins that matchup? GE was more SFF resistant, but I think that would be expected. But it did outdo Mario 64 on "The List," for what it's worth. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| TRE Public Account | Posted 7/9/2006 12:53:03 PM | message detail |
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I thought it was obvious that Sonic's most popular game was
S3&K, though...we've just never had any polls confirming it since
Ceej won't group them together. Something to look at regarding that: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=906&topic=25418462 Sonic 2 is far and away in first place. If you combine Sonic 3, S&K and S3&K(which is an inflated rating since you can have more than one of them on a list at a time) it still has a good deal less points than Sonic 2. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/9/2006 12:54:51 PM | message detail |
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Well, that's like using Board 8's Top 100 Games List as an authority.
It's interesting to look at, but don't take it for more than face
value. Honestly, do that one here, and Sonic 2 probably doesn't win. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/9/2006 12:56:28 PM | message detail |
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But then you've got to consider the fact that Mario 64 had *much* more
competition for its spot in terms of games in the series -- SMB3
obviously has more overlap with SM64 than GE, obviously. Even then,
though, I've always considered Goldeneye the more dangerous game, and
have felt that this board has vastly underestimated it in the past and
overestimated SM64. Again, you put a gun to my head, I say Mario 64 > Goldeneye. But it's the smallest of margins, and I would take Goldeneye in the upset. If only because it would be so unpopular. --- Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/9/2006 12:56:50 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, and it outdid SM64 even after SM64DS was released. By six spots.
GE007 was also a 3-seed in the Game Contest as opposed to SM64 being a
7-seed, where the nominations went solely by #1 favorites on a system. I'd be torn on that match, but gimme GE. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/9/2006 1:01:58 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=580 It's an old poll, but seeing as how S&K alone got 4% higher than Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 didn't do so shabby either, I'd stand firm in S3&K winning in a poll here against Sonic 2...provided there were an easy way to present it. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/9/2006 1:02:59 PM | message detail |
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And I *really* don't take stock in the board's preference...hell,
they're worth less than the oldest polls we've got to me. I'm sorry,
SSBM is not that strong. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Admiral Nobody88 | Posted 7/9/2006 1:08:23 PM | message detail |
| I guess i shouldn't have put SSB over SMB. oops!! |