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| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 2:00:58 PM | message detail |
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Well, the one thing that makes me wary is that gamers don't seem too
endeared to the GTA games, but instead seem to favor the series as a
whole. Case in point -- let's say they make three more GTA games...real GTA games, not things like LCS. We'll label them X, Y, and Z -- X comes first, Y comes second, Z is the most recent. Here's how I see the GTA hierarchy going: GTA Z GTA 3 GTA Y GTA X GTA San Andreas GTA Vice City ...the rest don't really matter. I think GTA 3 will *always* be the second strongest GTA game, as it was the one that truly popularized it and endeared people to the series. It won't have the advantage of recency on its side, but it won't be forgotten as newer ones come out. I think Vice City has lost much of its edge in the shadow of San Andreas, which is why I'd take MGS2 over it now even though it was clearly stronger than it in 2k4. I'm not sure what to make of this theory, or even its implications in terms of this contest -- it just happens to be what I believe. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 2:02:38 PM | message detail |
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Meh, Halo/Starcraft had the biggest votals of the Games Contest by far. Doesn't stop me from disrespecting it. --- Commit it to memory. |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/10/2006 2:06:29 PM | message detail |
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I think GTA 3 will *always* be the second strongest GTA game, as it
was the one that truly popularized it and endeared people to the
series. It won't have the advantage of recency on its side, but it
won't be forgotten as newer ones come out. I think Vice City has lost
much of its edge in the shadow of San Andreas, which is why I'd take
MGS2 over it now even though it was clearly stronger than it in 2k4. Why is SA so low? Is it because of the hip-hop image? If not, for all we know, it might be the Super Mario Bros. 3 of the series... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 2:09:25 PM | message detail |
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Hey, SA's only 'low' because it's not as recent as X, Y, or Z. Assuming
each game sticks to the same formula as the last (just with the
emphasis on making things BIGGER), that's how I see the hierarchy going
-- recency playing the major role, with GTA3 being the one to buck the
trend. Doesn't say much for individual personal preference. --- Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 7/10/2006 2:15:18 PM | message detail |
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people are using a Mario/Madden match to justify Mario winning the
whole contest? come on now, Zelda would beat it just as badly. it's fun
to watch and all, but don't get caught up in it. that's like saying
Snake had 2k4 locked up because he destroyed Tanner. --- xyzzy |
| TRE Public Account | Posted 7/10/2006 2:16:59 PM | message detail |
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Meh, Halo/Starcraft had the biggest votals of the Games Contest by far. Doesn't stop me from disrespecting it. That's because the poll was moved lower on the main page the very next day. All the matches after Halo vs Starcraft were put at a serious disadvantage vote totalwise. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 2:18:38 PM | message detail |
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Well, yeah, but I was more referring to the majority of the first round
(which was before Halo/Starcraft). Granted we didn't have too many
close matches, but eh. --- Commit it to memory. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 2:19:22 PM | message detail |
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We also had to deal with a double poll for a lot of the first round matches before Halo/StarCraft. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 2:21:10 PM | message detail |
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Hmm? I remember a PotD running alongside some polls, but I didn't
remember that in the polls before Halo/Starcraft. Must be my fuzzy
memory. --- Commit it to memory. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 2:24:50 PM | message detail |
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At the 17:20 mark, this match has 91589 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time: Zelda/Civilization - 85889 Metal Gear/Soul Calibur - 86891 Castlevania/Halo - 87751 Kingdom Hearts/Harvest Moon - 85341 Super Mario Brothers has 84636 individual votes. The Legend of Zelda had 77089 individual votes. Holy crap, SMB might outdraw some matches by itself. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 2:25:36 PM | message detail |
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Hmm? I remember a PotD running alongside some polls, but I didn't remember that in the polls before Halo/Starcraft. I distinctly remember Mario 3/Metal Gear having one, and probably a few others. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/10/2006 2:27:15 PM | message detail |
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For some reason, this match makes LoZ seem much less intimidating to
Final Fantasy than it used to be. I guess getting 100,000 votes on Civ
doesn't impress as much when Mario's looking to smash the record just a
week or two later. --- Commit it to memory. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 2:28:45 PM | message detail |
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Man, why can't FF get a first round opponent it can break 100,000 on? Now if it goes out and does it on Diablo...I think we could safely call the contest over. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| swirIdude | Posted 7/10/2006 2:42:31 PM | message detail |
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I distinctly remember Mario 3/Metal Gear having one, and probably a few others. I think those stopped after the first 2 matches. --- Xbox 360 melts disks! And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 2:43:45 PM | message detail |
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No, Ceej had a poll a few days before MP/WW asking what people thought
the highest rated GameCube game of all-time was, and it essentially
ruined the match because TWW won easily. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 7/10/2006 2:45:25 PM | message detail |
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This is insane from SMB. That said, it's still going down in the Semis, which is a shame. I'll be voting for it, at least. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz I admire MYC, for he is the pinnacle of human wit, poise, and beauty. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 2:49:16 PM | message detail |
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Okay, since it is now obvious that SMB will break 100,000 votes, let's try this: Buy or Sell: Super Mario Brothers will win by 100,000+ votes. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 2:52:42 PM | message detail |
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BUY Quoting myself... Not-So-Bold Prediction: Super Mario Brothers will surpass 111K. At 16:00 yesterday, Kingdom Hearts had 57,581 votes, 70.45% of its eventual total(81,729). Harvest Moon had 21759 votes, 72.41% of its eventual total(30,051). At 16:00 last Monday, Megaman X had 54,609 votes, 73.53% of its eventual total(74,270). Suikoden had 20693 votes, 73.86% of its eventual total(28,018). At 16:00 on another big blow out, The Legend of Zelda had 70,988 votes, 70.87% of its eventual total(100,163). Civilization had 8,193 votes, 73.35% of its eventual total(11169). At 16:00 today, Super Mario Brothers currently has 78,035 votes. If the series has 70% of it's total votes, it will end with 111,479 votes If the series has 73% of it's total votes, it will end with 106,897 votes. On the other hand, Madden is NOT on pace to score 10,000 votes. Thus, SMB will win by 100k. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 7/10/2006 2:54:27 PM | message detail |
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Man, why can't FF get a first round opponent it can break 100,000 on? It most certainly can! Cloud only received 18,000 fewer votes against Link than against CATS back in 2003, and historically, FF has been able to outdraw either Zelda or Mario. The quality of the opponent does not matter all that much in determiningthe winner's vote total in a blowout, since a stronger loser primarily draws more votes for itself, without removing many from the winner. --- July 2006 Contest --- Score: 7/8 --- Rank: T-3101 Today's Pick: Super Mario Bros. --- Vote: SMB |
| rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 3:01:48 PM | message detail |
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At 18:00 yesterday, Kingdom Hearts had 64,534 votes, 78.96% of its eventual total(81,729). Harvest Moon had 24,164 votes, 80.41% of its eventual total(30,051). At 18:00 last Monday, Megaman X had 60,865 votes, 81.95% of its eventual total(74,270). Suikoden had 23,015 votes, 82,14% of its eventual total(28,018). At 18:00 on another big blow out, The Legend of Zelda had 79,865 votes, 79.56% of its eventual total(100,163). Civilization had 9,112 votes, 81.58% of its eventual total(11169). At 18:00 today, Super Mario Brothers currently has 87,773 votes. If the series has 79% of it's total votes, it will end with 111,105 votes If the series has 82% of it's total votes, it will end with 107,040 votes. |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/10/2006 3:01:56 PM | message detail |
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It most certainly can! Cloud only received 18,000 fewer votes
against Link than against CATS back in 2003, and historically, FF has
been able to outdraw either Zelda or Mario. The quality of the opponent
does not matter all that much in determiningthe winner's vote total in
a blowout, since a stronger loser primarily draws more votes for
itself, without removing many from the winner. Uhhh, I'm pretty sure he meant why couldn't Final Fantasy get a similarly weak opponent like Civilization or Madden in this contest as opposed to being matched up against Diablo. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 3:48:20 PM | message detail |
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Odd, both Super Mario Brothers and Madden got the poll freeze at 7500 votes exactly. They were about 18 hours apart though. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| cyko | Posted 7/10/2006 3:56:23 PM | message detail |
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Buy or Sell: Super Mario Brothers will win by 100,000+ votes. BUY - SMB only needs about 18,000 votes inabout 5 hours. i think it can pull that off. I think GTA 3 will *always* be the second strongest GTA game, as it was the one that truly popularized it and endeared people to the series. It won't have the advantage of recency on its side, but it won't be forgotten as newer ones come out. I think Vice City has lost much of its edge in the shadow of San Andreas, which is why I'd take MGS2 over it now even though it was clearly stronger than it in 2k4. I'm not sure what to make of this theory, or even its implications in terms of this contest -- it just happens to be what I believe. i think Karma Hunter's both right and wrong here. he's right about recency playing a large part in GTA's popularity. there actually was a favorite GTA game poll: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1831 Grand Theft Auto 5.58% 2803 Grand Theft Auto 2 4.86% 2444 Grand Theft Auto III 20.41% 10254 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 25.28% 12704 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 43.87% 22046 TOTAL VOTES 50251 SA, being the most popular, easily overshadowed VC.however, it didn't quite slip down past GTA3.so, GTA3 might have more staying power than the other GTA games as newer sequels are introduced into the series, but it might not be enough to keep in the second or even third most popular spot forever. recency definitely plays a huge part in the series, though. --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| cyko | Posted 7/10/2006 3:58:25 PM | message detail |
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and i am in no way claiming that SMB will win the contest based on this
one match, but if it did, the best score any guru could get would be
56/80. not one of the 108+1 gurus even took SMB over FF. --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/10/2006 4:01:25 PM | message detail |
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If SMB drops .08% it'll tie Mega Man. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 4:01:39 PM | message detail |
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And it looks like this match has a realistic chance at 115,000 votes. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 4:12:01 PM | message detail |
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Heh, looks like rallying for Warcraft has begun. Once again, like the
rally attempts for Kerrigan last year, it's not going as the rallyers
are hoping, and the results are rather humorous. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-general&ThreadID=9011474 --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/10/2006 4:15:36 PM | message detail |
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I'm sensing the attitude of "Why bother when it's just going to get crushed against Mario." FEAR THE ALMIGHTY POWER OF BLIZZARD VOTE RALLYING!! --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Super Mario Bros. vs. Madden - Bracket: SMB - Vote: SMB (7/8) |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/10/2006 4:17:25 PM | message detail |
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8. Re: vote for World of Warcraft! | 7/10/2006 4:00:49 PM PDT Quote this post Reply to this post GTA FTW, why would these games even go up agianst each other they are in two different classes of genre Heh. --- "It's two children and a duck. Be careful!" ~ Leo, Suikoden III |
| cyko | Posted 7/10/2006 4:18:57 PM | message detail |
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wouldn't it be awesome if rallying from n00bs got out of control and everyone from WoW voted for GTA just to spite the n00bs? i can totally see that happening. --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/10/2006 4:23:50 PM | message detail |
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Mario's breaking a record :OOOO >_> --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 4:26:35 PM | message detail |
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And it looks like this match has a realistic chance at 115,000 votes. False/Sell. SMB will end with 109k+ or - 3k. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 4:27:14 PM | message detail |
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I'm not talking about Mario reaching 115,000. I'm talking about the match itself. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 4:28:25 PM | message detail |
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I'm not talking about Mario reaching 115,000. I'm talking about the match itself. Silly me. In that case, this match will reach 115k and has an outside shot at 120k. |
| Kratos_42 | Posted 7/10/2006 4:34:46 PM | message detail |
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A record, or a dozen? I'm glad I've have it beating out Sonic, I almost
had Sonic pulling of an upset. I'd regret that. The question is, will
it be playing against Sonic? --- He wields the blade of a fallen hero, but now he is the hero, and it is the others who fall. He is rising. CERtified user. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 4:35:15 PM | message detail |
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Yes, it will be facing Sonic. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| swirIdude | Posted 7/10/2006 4:37:05 PM | message detail |
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Personally id rahter see Wow vs Warhammer That would get people out to vote. XD Wow. --- Xbox 360 melts disks! And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso |
| rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 4:38:04 PM | message detail |
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Yes, it will be facing Sonic. Sorry, Sonic is on the OTHER side of the division. --- SC2k6: 8/8 Leaderboard #7: ProfessorBen Today: Bracket: Mario Vote: Mario |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 4:52:38 PM | message detail |
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SMB has passed Cloud Strife's vote total against CATS with 4+ hours to go. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 5:04:08 PM | message detail |
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At 20:00 yesterday, Kingdom Hearts had 70,963 votes, 86.83% of its eventual total(81,729). Harvest Moon had 26,329 votes, 87.61% of its eventual total(30,051). At 20:00 last Monday, Megaman X had 66,130 votes, 89.04% of its eventual total(74,270). Suikoden had 24,952 votes, 89.06% of its eventual total(28,018). At 20:00 on another big blow out, The Legend of Zelda had 87335 votes, 87.19% of its eventual total(100,163). Civilization had 9,885 votes, 88.50% of its eventual total(11169). At 20:00 today, Super Mario Brothers currently has 96,044 votes. If the series has 87% of it's total votes, it will end with 110,395 votes If the series has 89% of it's total votes, it will end with 107,914 votes. --- SC2k6: 8/8 Leaderboard #7: ProfessorBen Today: Bracket: Mario Vote: Mario |
| Tediz247 | Posted 7/10/2006 5:05:17 PM | message detail |
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Aww, it's slowed down a bit. --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 5:07:13 PM | message detail |
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Yeah. I think we can pencil in 109k for now, which would just about give it the 100k victory. --- SC2k6: 8/8 Leaderboard #7: ProfessorBen Today: Bracket: Mario Vote: Mario |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 5:07:27 PM | message detail |
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It's okay. SMB is about on pace with Zelda/Civilization in terms of vote totals. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 5:17:37 PM | message detail |
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Leonhart: I thought you wrote that this match was on par with Zelda/Civ. I keep misreading that for some reason. Silly me. --- SC2k6: 8/8 Leaderboard #7: ProfessorBen Today: Bracket: Mario Vote: Mario |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 7/10/2006 5:18:24 PM | message detail |
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I still find it amazing that the contest is up to 2003 levels of voting in a short span of time. --- "Never argue with a fool, people may not tell the difference" - Murphy's Law |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 7/10/2006 5:18:33 PM | message detail |
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Heh, it's about 8000 ahead of Zelda/Civilization with Madden, but it's about even just by itself. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| rpgapzx | Posted 7/10/2006 5:20:47 PM | message detail |
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Exactly. I realized that before I made a fool out of myself... again. --- SC2k6: 8/8 Leaderboard #7: ProfessorBen Today: Bracket: Mario Vote: Mario |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/10/2006 5:20:50 PM | message detail |
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Biggest Lead right there beating LoZ/Civilization. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| greatmagnus | Posted 7/10/2006 5:21:09 PM | message detail |
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so close --- Cast in the Name of God, Ye Not Guilty. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 7/10/2006 5:21:13 PM | message detail |
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lol vote rallying --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Currently Playing - Suikoden V, Capcom vs. SNK 2 |