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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 306
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| FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/8/2006 9:57:53 PM | message detail |
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Is it able to be noted that this can only be impressive/unimpressive to a degree since we have nothing on harvest moon? or did a character or game slip in somewhere that I missed? --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 9:57:57 PM | message detail |
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Honestly, when KH can't even outdo by 5% what Metal Gear did to Soul
Calibur (which I can't fathom having any trouble with Harvest Moon),
this is rather disappointing. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Gifted | Posted 7/8/2006 9:58:22 PM | message detail |
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I feel so bad, for once. I placed Warcraft over GTA, fully knowing GTA
has no chance of going anywhere. Little did I know at the time Warcraft
apparently isn't well liked. Can it even have a chance of winning? --- Not talented. |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/8/2006 9:58:39 PM | message detail |
| I would take HM over Suikoden and Star Ocean. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 9:58:42 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, uh...I'd still call Halo a STRONG match for getting 55-60% of the
vote on any Castlevania game not named SotN, and it could very well
beat that too with relative ease. And Halo 2 may well be stronger. CV still kicked its ass from pillar to post. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/8/2006 9:59:43 PM | message detail |
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I would take HM over Suikoden and Star Ocean. Star Ocean? Probably. Suikoden? Not at all. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/8/2006 9:59:44 PM | message detail |
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And if those kids are playing the Sonic Adventure GC ports, what do
you think the probability of them playing SSBM is? Remember that 75% of
the site owns SSBM, and probably a large amount more have played it. Probably pretty good. However, let's look at the kid who bought SA2. In theory, he probably bought SA1 first (in reality, this was the case, as I actually asked him... yes, I'm serious). Now, let's say, for argument's sake, he comes to GameFAQs. On the one hand, he likes SA and SA2. On the other hand, he likes SSBM. He likes all three about equally. He's really too young to have had an N64. Who do you think he'll vote for? But really, that's not such a great argument for either of us to make, since like 80% of the site has had an NES.... --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:00:13 PM | message detail |
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I would struggle with a HM/Suikoden match...probably going with HM in
the end. But seriously, if you're that close to MMX, you're not beating
MG. CV may be another story. We'll see... --- Commit it to memory. |
| cyko | Posted 7/8/2006 10:00:57 PM | message detail |
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yeah, i'm already disappointed in KH. i really wouldn't take Harvest
Moon over Suikoden. so, unless MMX is an absolute beast, then KH is
kind of tanking. --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:01:38 PM | message detail |
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I seem to recall Metal Gear winning the "Favorite Konami Series" poll with relative ease. I'll have to check on that. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/8/2006 10:02:29 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, uh...I'd still call Halo a STRONG match for getting 55-60% of
the vote on any Castlevania game not named SotN, and it could very well
beat that too with relative ease. And Halo 2 may well be stronger. CV still kicked its ass from pillar to post. I agree here. Almost half of CV's fanbase prefers SOTN, yet I'd take Halo over that particular game. I'd imagine that Sonic's fanbase is more split among the top 3 games (Sonic 2, S3&K, SA2) than one of those having 50% of the fanbase, and would absolutely take SSBM over any single one of them. I still say Sonic beats SSB in a series battle. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:02:41 PM | message detail |
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And if MMX DOES turn out to be stronger than Kingdom Hearts, that's
another knock against recent, not-so-well-established series with few
games. I can't see any one Mega Man X game coming close to Kingdom
Hearts except for MAYBE the original. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/8/2006 10:03:26 PM | message detail |
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I seem to recall Metal Gear winning the "Favorite Konami Series" poll with relative ease. I'll have to check on that. Yeah, it did. I think. Castlevania was in a distant second. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:03:37 PM | message detail |
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I'm arguing for Sonic *so* hard, and I don't believe it has a shot at all. YAY ME --- Commit it to memory. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/8/2006 10:03:41 PM | message detail |
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Heh, this whole scenario looks pretty familiar. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2076 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2077 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2103 And then... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2116 This scenario is just too freaky similiar. Only difference this time is that it might be CV on the end of an ass-whipping. --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Kingdom Hearts vs. Harvest Moon - Bracket: KH - Vote: KH (6/7) |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/8/2006 10:03:53 PM | message detail |
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CV may be another story. We'll see... It's still going to get beat hard by Metal Gear. And here's that Konami poll. Metal Gear wins with 34.87% of the vote and Castlevania comes in second with 21.87%. Poll was taken in 2003, too. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1453 --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| cyko | Posted 7/8/2006 10:04:09 PM | message detail |
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Bemani (DDR/BeatMania) 5.55% 4211 Castlevania 21.87% 16606 Contra 6.72% 5101 Goemon (Mystical Ninja) 3.31% 2510 Gradius/Parodius 1.13% 857 Metal Gear 34.87% 26479 Pro Evolution/ISS/Winning Eleven Soccer 2.2% 1671 Silent Hill 6.19% 4698 Suikoden 10.37% 7874 Yu-Gi-Oh! 7.81% 5930 TOTAL VOTES 75937 yup. relative ease. i'm not one to give up faith quickly, but i am this close to handing the division to Metal Gear right now. --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:04:16 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, it's all good Falcon, I was just confused as hell. I don't think there's a chance in hell that SA2/B is Sonic's strongest game. The only time we've ever seen it in a poll, it gathered all of 1% against terrible competition, and it missed out on the Spring contest despite having absolutely no competition for a Dreamcast slot. Because it wasn't popular until it hit the Gamecube. SSBM would beat ANYTHING Sonic-related pretty bad I'd be willing to bet Halo would do the same to CV. --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:04:28 PM | message detail |
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*laughs at Silent Hill again* --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/8/2006 10:05:13 PM | message detail |
| LOL at Silent Hill losing to Yugioh. I never saw that poll come up during the FE/SH discussion. |
| NewLib | Posted 7/8/2006 10:05:43 PM | message detail |
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Watching these results, there is more of a chance in my mind of Castlevania beating KH than KH beating Metal Gear. --- Where am I? |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:05:44 PM | message detail |
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Also, that poll makes me curious about how well Suikoden would do against Fire Emblem. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:06:05 PM | message detail |
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It hung with Contra 'till the very end! And you guys were just underestimating Agent 47. Hitman is the best stealth series out there, you know. *silence* --- Commit it to memory. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/8/2006 10:07:20 PM | message detail |
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Metal Gear > Castlevania > Suikoden is exactly how I have my
preferences for Konami franchises (all three in my top 5 favorite
franchises, too!), so GameFAQs has the superb taste when it comes to
Konami!! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:07:46 PM | message detail |
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At the 1:05 mark, this match has 11807 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time: Zelda/Civilization - 10921 Pokemon/Star Ocean - 11510 Metal Gear/Soul Calibur - 11510 (not a typo, exactly the same) Castlevania/Halo - 12216 Not bad so far. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/8/2006 10:07:57 PM | message detail |
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Because it wasn't popular until it hit the Gamecube. It was the GameCube GotY poll that SA2B failed so miserably in. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1128 And, unless you're telling me the reasons Skies and Soul Calibur are (somewhat) popular around here is because of their DC games, SA2 should have had no trouble getting into the games contest on a Dreamcast ticket despite a GC background. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/RPGuy.jpg |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:09:17 PM | message detail |
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SA2 should have had no trouble getting into the games contest on a Dreamcast ticket despite a GC background. Not if people are nominating it on the GameCube instead. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/8/2006 10:09:24 PM | message detail |
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Also, that poll makes me curious about how well Suikoden would do against Fire Emblem. If Suikoden was SFFed by FFVII, which is a real possibility I think, then it's likely it would have ended up above Fire Emblem in the stats. Plus, I think Suikoden did pretty good against Mega Man X, especially with those high vote totals. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:10:45 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but there are those that have postulated that FFTA SFFed FE or that FFX SFFed FFTA. ...or that FFX is slightly underrated due to being pic-screwed against SSBM. <____________________________< --- Commit it to memory. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/8/2006 10:11:00 PM | message detail |
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SA2 should have had no trouble getting into the games contest on a Dreamcast ticket despite a GC background. Just like the nommed SoAL and SCII...But wait, SoA and SC got into the contest, as Dreamcast games! Despite a strong Gamecube background! --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/RPGuy.jpg |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/8/2006 10:11:04 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, it's possible that people were nominating Soul Calibur in DC and
Sonic Adventure 2 on GCN. Really, we can't go by what did and didn't
make it into the games contest because the nomination method was just
too asinine and there are a million possibilities for why strong games
wouldn't make it. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/8/2006 10:11:24 PM | message detail |
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...or that FFX is slightly underrated due to being pic-screwed against SSBM. OH IT IS THE TRUTH!!! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:11:26 PM | message detail |
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If previous matches are any indication, Kingdom Hearts should be stuck in the 72-74% range for the rest of the match. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:12:19 PM | message detail |
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And, unless you're telling me the reasons Skies and Soul Calibur are (somewhat) popular around here is because of their DC games, SA2 should have had no trouble getting into the games contest on a Dreamcast ticket despite a GC background. I'd argue that Skies has a very dedicated, small fanbase that will push for it to be in any contest despite no one really giving a **** about it. As for Soul Calibur, I really couldn't tell you, but SA2 just simply wasn't that well recieved on the Dreamcast, SA2 sold infinitely better on the Gamecube (yeah yeah, Sales =/= popularity), but I'd bet it's a lot more popular because of its GC release than it's DC release. Plus, I don't think that poll is really far to compare it too when MP has the recency factor working for it, and everything else combined barely edges it out. --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:12:42 PM | message detail |
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...Soul Calibur and Skies of Arcadia don't have "strong GameCube
backgrounds." Legends had only been released on the 'Cube 3 months
before nominations (meaning Vyse got into SC2K3 on Dreamcast merits),
and the original SC is a Dreamcast exclusive. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:13:11 PM | message detail |
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FFT and FFX should be thanking MGS and SSBM for not making them look like uber fodder through FFVII. ...okay, so MGS got SFFed anyway. It could have been worse for FFT. --- Commit it to memory. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/8/2006 10:14:14 PM | message detail |
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SA2B isn't a strong game, so it doesn't matter anyway. It was outscored by: Animal Crossing Eternal Darkness Metroid Prime Phantasy Star Online Ep 1 & 2 Resident Evil Resident Evil 0 Super Mario Sunshine Timesplitters 2 Now, the only other Sega game is PSO, and the only other platformer is SMS. So what possible reason is there for SA2B failing so badly? Either people don't really like the game or they deserted it. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/RPGuy.jpg |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:14:23 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, the original SC has a rabid fanbase, with many considering it the
greatest fighting game of all time. SCII and SCIII's fans aren't as
dedicated (though SCII has a larger fanbase). --- Commit it to memory. |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/8/2006 10:14:55 PM | message detail |
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Just like the nommed SoAL and SCII...But wait, SoA and SC got into
the contest, as Dreamcast games! Despite a strong Gamecube background! Soul Calibur had a monstrous DC presence. Much more than GCN. It was one of the big launch titles. As far as SoA goes... it's kind of cultish in many respects, and I guess it sort of got in the same way Giygas got into the villain's contest. I really can't explain why SA2 didn't make the games contest though. I still don't think it's weak though. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/8/2006 10:14:57 PM | message detail |
| That Gamecube poll doesn't seem reliable in the first place. Animal Crossing beat Sunshine and PSO almost beat it as well. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:15:58 PM | message detail |
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How many of those games would you take over SA2:B directly? I'd take
Metroid Prime and Super Mario Sunshine. No, I don't think either
Resident Evil stands a chance (they're from when the series was well
into the 'tired' phase). --- Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/8/2006 10:15:58 PM | message detail |
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Sonic Adventure Battle 2 is arguably it's strongest game, a game we haven't even seen in action yet. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=767 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1128 If you can't win the Dreamcast GotY poll, that's bad news...but hell, let's overlook that for a second. MP is also behind Starcraft, and thus far we have seen Soul Calibur and Halo look bad because of it, not to mention KH not exactly impressing today either despite KH2 being the most recent huge hit out today. There's no way in hell SAB2 is the top Sonic game. Too bad that's not the issue at hand. It has to beat EVERYTHING Sonic-related. And SSB is not a respected series. If S&K is Sonic's top game, I bet it's got a deceptively big overlap -- S&K got popular because you could play Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 in a different way with it. I've explained my case why its newer games won't be much of a force, and I'm not gettin' into why I think Sonic 2 is hardly much/any stronger than what the stats show again...S&K probably wouldn't do leaps and bounds better. Like, okay, with CV/Halo, Halo had a HUGE overlap on one system while CV had a really big game on a system it usually doesn't attend to much alongside many games on many different consoles with decent fanfare that dates back to the NES days. With Sonic/SSB, SSB will have a real big overlap over two systems while Sonic hardly has such a stand-out game and the rest of its games have had mixed fanfare dating back to the Genesis...and its stand-out game would have been on the Genesis, a system obviously attended by Sonic, alot. Throw in that SSBM is bigger than Halo and C:SotN is (I'll be nice...pprroobbaabbllyy) stronger than any Sonic game, and the reasoning is there. Plus, with the reception SSBB has gotten, I argue that SSB is a respected series. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:16:29 PM | message detail |
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I'd argue that the game most likely to share a fanbase with it aside
from Sunshine would be Metroid Prime, which was released very close to
that poll. We all know recency almost always plays a roll in the GotY
(Resident Evil 4 is an acception due to no really stellar games, and
completely ****ing owning), thanks to MP, SAB2 appears to be weak, and
the other games are targeted towards different audiences. --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:17:57 PM | message detail |
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Also, I've got another thing to say about GotY polls. lol FFX doubles SSBM *gets shot* --- Commit it to memory. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/8/2006 10:19:11 PM | message detail |
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I don't care if it's accurate down to the exact percent or not, the
point is that SA2B sucked hard in it. A strong game would not have done
oh so miserably. And, before someone brings up SSBM's 15%, consider these two polls. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=749 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=718 --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/RPGuy.jpg |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:20:22 PM | message detail |
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Unfortunately we have no such polls for SA2B --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:20:24 PM | message detail |
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You're missing the point again with the last statement. SSB is not a respected series, at least not yet. SSBM is a huge game, but a well-established series? No. If S&K is Sonic's top game, I bet it's got a deceptively big overlap As do most popular series. That's a no brainer. And yet we'll see the Legend of Zelda as a series be MUCH stronger than Ocarina of Time, despite the big fanbase overlap between it and the rest of the series (playability for the original was really high). Same with Super Mario Brothers. The idea isn't diversity in terms of numbers of fans (though you're crazy if you think more people haven't played a Sonic game instead of SSB or SSBM) I'm not gettin' into why I think Sonic 2 is hardly much/any stronger than what the stats show again Good. It didn't make any sense in the first place. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/8/2006 10:20:54 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=767 I don't see how anyone can possibly argue that SA2B is strong. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/RPGuy.jpg |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:21:41 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=767 I don't see how anyone can possibly argue that SA2B is strong. Because we believe it draws most of it's strength from GC? --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/8/2006 10:22:11 PM | message detail |
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Okay, combine the two polls. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/RPGuy.jpg |