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therealmnm | Posted 7/8/2006 3:09:35 PM | message detail
I made the point that Castlevania would have benefitted from being a launch title a few times before the brackets were locked down.

I said since the beginning that the handhelds are pretty popular on this site, and also brought the series to a new fanbase. A lot of people assumed that since the handhelds were like SotN that they would share the same fanbase. The handhelds definitely brought new fans to the series. I just didn't think Halo would be this overrated, with the whole "Halo 2" thing.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/8/2006 3:10:00 PM | message detail
Holy **** at these vote totals. 91000 with almost 6 hours to go? Jesus.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/8/2006 3:10:11 PM | message detail
You know, from all the info on HM that was just provided, I think we might be underestimating it a bit. It has a surprisingly large number of FAQs and Reviews here, and its sales are surprisingly good. I'd be quite surprised if it did worse against KH than Agent 47 did against Sora.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 3:10:20 PM | message detail
You just wait for Kingdom Hearts to get its turn!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/8/2006 3:11:01 PM | message detail
I just think that people arent going to vote for FFVII or OOT.

Once again, this should have been obvious before the contest began. I'm personally voting for FF because of FFVIII and FFX. Ocarina of Time would not have broken 90% of the entirety of the Civilization series.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 3:11:26 PM | message detail
Meh, Kingdom Hearts is so much more than Sora. I'd be pretty nervous if KH didn't break Sora's percentage on 47.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/8/2006 3:13:49 PM | message detail
At the 18:10 mark, this match has 91367 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time:

Zelda/Civilization - 89747
Pokemon/Star Ocean - 90558
Metroid/Kirby - 86847
Metal Gear/Soul Calibur - 90603

Unlike Pokemon/Star Ocean, this one doesn't seem to be slowing down.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/8/2006 3:14:41 PM | message detail
What about Harvest Moon for Girls dammit?!

It's just Harvest Moon where you play as a girl and get to marry boys. That's the only change.

Castlevania : Circle of the Moon -- 480,643

Heh, IIRC, that's just around SotN's sales.
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NewLib | Posted 7/8/2006 3:15:13 PM | message detail
Well Leon, I thought the same way you did and if you remember I argued about it with a few people who DID think it was going to be OOT/FFVII. I tried to tell them that especially the SNES FF and Zelda games had a completely different fanbase.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 3:15:16 PM | message detail
Zelda/Civ got a *very* late rush, it seems. Probably from people hoping to get Zelda over that 100,000 mark (as much of a 'lock' as many considered it, it barely made it).
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 3:16:07 PM | message detail
It's just Harvest Moon where you play as a girl and get to marry boys. That's the only change.

I wanted to know the sales. ;_;
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/8/2006 3:16:49 PM | message detail
Heh, IIRC, that's just around SotN's sales


Yeah, I think CotM sold 30,000 more.
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TheKeyofDestiny | Posted 7/8/2006 3:23:03 PM | message detail
Man, this newest bunch of newbs are making me sadder than ever. Some of them are actually talking about Fire Emblem beating Metal Gear.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 7/8/2006 3:40:41 PM | message detail
And it's amazing that some people can only conclude that Castlevania is cheating in order to be doing this well.
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NewLib | Posted 7/8/2006 3:45:06 PM | message detail
To think that Castlevania side is outcheating the Halo side by almost 10,000 votes is nothing short of insane.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/8/2006 3:47:17 PM | message detail
It's also amazing that Castlevania even won the day vote.

Really, the only reason some of us wanted to see this match was because of the crazy vote swing.

Yeah, I never cared about the stats for this match. You heard me.
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Castlevania vs. Halo - Bracket: Halo - Vote: Halo (6/6)
jonthomson | Posted 7/8/2006 3:49:01 PM | message detail
The important question to ask is whether the majority of those who have KH reaching the last 8 are worried yet.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/8/2006 3:51:49 PM | message detail
The important question to ask is whether the majority of those who have KH reaching the last 8 are worried yet.

I said before that I didn't think Castlevania had a shot at KH, but Halo did.

Now? I think I'll wait and see how KH does tommorrow to see if I need to worry. CV is impressing me though, no doubt.
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Castlevania vs. Halo - Bracket: Halo - Vote: Halo (6/6)
charmander6000 | Posted 7/8/2006 4:28:33 PM | message detail
Match VIII: (2) Kingdom Hearts vs. (7) Harvest Moon

Games in series

Kingdom Hearts (PS2, 2002)
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (GBA, 2004)
Kingdom Hearts II (PS2, 2006)

Harvest Moon (SNES, 1997)
Harvest Moon GB (GB, 1997)
Harvest Moon GBC (GBC, 1998)
Harvest Moon 64 (N64, 1999)
Harvest Moon 2 (GBC, 2000)
Harvest Moon: Back to Nature (PS, 2000)
Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland (PS2, 2001)
Harvest Moon 3 (GBC, 2001)
Harvest Moon: Friends of Mineral Town (GBA, 2003)
Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life (GC, 2004)
Harvest Moon: More Friends of Mineral Town (GBA, 2005)
Harvest Moon: Another Wonderful Life (GC, 2005)
Harvest Moon: Magical Melody (GC, 2006)

Analysis:

Heartless have been appearing everywhere in Kingdom Hearts. Sora teams up with Goofy, Donald and others to stop the evil that is going around the island. Visit different places from Disney’s finest movies and meet various characters from the Final Fantasy series. Depending which Harvest Moon you are playing the story is a little different, but in the end you wind up with a beat-up old farm and it is your job to fix the place up and start a new life.

Despite Kingdom Hearts just becoming a series a few months ago it is the clear favorite going into the match. Kingdom Hearts is mostly known throughout GameFAQs while Harvest Moon is more of a cult series. Another problem about Harvest Moon is it isn’t made for everyone so you’d either love it or hate it. Due to the lack of information about Harvest Moon contest and strength wise there really isn’t much to talk about this match and my prediction is mostly an educated blind guess.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Kingdom Hearts over Harvest Moon

chamander6000’s Prediction: Kingdom Hearts wins, 72.31% - 27.69%

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Aprosenf | Posted 7/8/2006 4:46:53 PM | message detail
I'm *finally* caught up. Jeez, what a match. I'm really disappointed with Halo's performance. Not only did it not win, it didn't even win the day vote. Castlevania has been steadily increasing its lead from the opening minutes. Oh well, it's only a one point loss for me, and I'm not yet eliminated from the guru contest.

Onto tomorrow's match: don't underestimate Harvest Moon. The earlier games kicked ass (specifically, the original HM, HM64, and HM:BtN for PSX), but the recent ones have been absolute crap. Even though I like the Kingdom Hearts series better, I'm going to be voting for HM because I'm so glad to see it here and it deserves my vote. Even if KH underperforms against HM, don't be surprised when it kicks Castlevania back to the stone age.
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Aprosenf | Posted 7/8/2006 4:47:39 PM | message detail
One more thing - has no one pointed out that Kingdom Hearts/Harvest Moon = KH/HM = Karma Hunter/Heroic Mario?
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LegendarySnake | Posted 7/8/2006 4:51:55 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'm thinking I may have OVERshot for once on my prediction. I had no idea that the GCN Harvest Moon sold so well.
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Agent M | Posted 7/8/2006 4:54:28 PM | message detail
This can't be no mere coincidence...

That can only mean one thing...

Harvest Moon will win with 80% of the vote! Bracket Buster!
LegendarySnake | Posted 7/8/2006 5:03:19 PM | message detail
Hmmm...The vote totals seem to be slowing down a bit now. It's not far ahead of MG/SC right now.
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greatone10 | Posted 7/8/2006 5:10:09 PM | message detail
I would laugh if Castlevania upset Kingdom Hearts, just because I had Alucard one year ago.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 7/8/2006 5:12:22 PM | message detail
Is Halo a guranteed turd of the round for Slow's analysis?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/8/2006 5:14:17 PM | message detail
Depends on how the rest of the round goes, really.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/8/2006 5:15:53 PM | message detail
And it looks like the day vote's coming to a close. Castlevania's starting to increase its percentage again.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Master Moltar | Posted 7/8/2006 5:21:19 PM | message detail
Other than Star Ocean, it doesn't really have much competition yet.

Then again, I can't imagine any other series failing as hard has Halo did today.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 5:33:19 PM | message detail
One more thing - has no one pointed out that Kingdom Hearts/Harvest Moon = KH/HM = Karma Hunter/Heroic Mario

Coincidentally, a Karma Hunter/Heroic Mario match would turn out the same way, acronym-wise!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/8/2006 5:37:33 PM | message detail
Pity that Castlevania couldn't crack a 10,000 vote lead as the match broke 100,000, but it's only an update or two away. ^_^
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 5:39:21 PM | message detail
Heh, this account contains my only bracket that will still be perfect after today.

*crosses fingers for leaderboard*
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/8/2006 5:42:18 PM | message detail
Coincidentally, a Karma Hunter/Heroic Mario match would turn out the same way, acronym-wise!

Hah! You wish.

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yoblazer33 | Posted 7/8/2006 5:50:16 PM | message detail
It's probably already been discussed, but if Kingdom Hearts beats Castlevania, Halo will almost surely be the bracket's ultimate loser.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/8/2006 5:51:18 PM | message detail
After teasing us with 9998, Castlevania leads Halo by more than ten thousand votes.
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charmander6000 | Posted 7/8/2006 5:52:09 PM | message detail
So I just found out that I need Harvest Moon to win to stay alive in the guru contest.
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Tediz247 | Posted 7/8/2006 5:56:41 PM | message detail
I've officially been eliminated. Of course, it was unofficial all along with my horrible tiebreaker and cookie-cutter bracket.
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yoblazer33 | Posted 7/8/2006 6:02:56 PM | message detail
Is Halo a guranteed turd of the round for Slow's analysis?

Unless Mario Kart gets really destroyed, I don't see which other series can take it.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/8/2006 6:15:50 PM | message detail
What if Mega Man gets destroyed?
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
HaRRicH | Posted 7/8/2006 6:27:02 PM | message detail
Damn, Halo hardly impressed today, except with the opening minute or two. Other than that, wow...disappointing. The prediction-percentages will definitely be a sight to see, at least.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/8/2006 6:48:46 PM | message detail
Yeah. Halo's only good time was supposed to be Castlevania's best, and other than that it was all Castlevania, all the time. Never expected a 10000-vote clobbering - and if I did, I'd have expected CV to have it all gained by 9 AM.
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LightningHD22 | Posted 7/8/2006 6:51:20 PM | message detail
does anybody think that Madden could have made it to the final 4 had it not had to face Mario in the first round?

top selling videogames series of all time:

Mario (257.3 million)
Pokémon (143 million)
Final Fantasy (63 million)
Grand Theft Auto (50.1 million)
Madden NFL (49 million)
The Legend of Zelda (47 million)

heck it could have beat Zelda in the finals if it got there because the Madden series just passed The Legend of Zelda series in sales

damn CJay needs to learn how to make a bracket
HaRRicH | Posted 7/8/2006 6:53:11 PM | message detail
Madden would also managed to be doubled by all of those...hell, I'll get frisky: tripled.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/8/2006 6:53:48 PM | message detail
Madden could maybe beat Harvest Moon and Shadow Hearts.

MAYBE.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
HaRRicH | Posted 7/8/2006 6:58:55 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: Madden would not get more than 47% against any series in the contest.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/8/2006 7:03:02 PM | message detail
For the record, this match is pretty much even with LoZ/Civilization now, so it looks like we'll get something like 110,000 votes.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
LightningHD22 | Posted 7/8/2006 7:05:09 PM | message detail
HaRRicH
Posted 7/8/2006 6:58:55 PM
message detail BOLD PREDICTION: Madden would not get more than 47% against any series in the contest.


um Madden couldn't get more than 47% of nay series than neither could Zelda because the Madden series has sold more games than the Zelda series. But LoZ already got 88% on Civilization so Madden would get around that too, 88-90%, so your logic is flawed
LeonhartForever | Posted 7/8/2006 7:06:28 PM | message detail
Actually, I think you're the one with flawed logic...If sales determined strength, Pokemon would've gotten like 95% on Star Ocean.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/8/2006 7:06:56 PM | message detail
Sales don't equal to strength on GameFAQs, because this place doesn't like sports too much.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/8/2006 7:09:12 PM | message detail
Oh, ****, you're right. My bad, chap.

Mario > Pokemon in the championship.
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