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| MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/8/2006 10:22:15 PM | message detail |
| I don't know how anyone can use polls with 18,000 votes as evidence. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/8/2006 10:22:24 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=767 I don't see how anyone can possibly argue that SA2B is strong. Well, for one, that's SA2, not SA2B. I've heard arguments that SA2B is by far the stronger of the two - it's on the Gamecube for one and was (insofar as I can tell) leaps and bounds better than the original. It also had the added benefit of not being on a dead console and brought new exposure to the Sonic series. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/8/2006 10:22:57 PM | message detail |
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If we really want to get into extremely old polls, let's do it. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=580 Much more contested than Castlevania's. SA2 shows a nice chunk of strength. Sonic 2 isn't even the favorite there. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:23:31 PM | message detail |
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I don't see how anyone can possibly argue that SA2B is strong. I don't see SA2B in that poll... And yes, recency plays a huge role in GotY polls. I say FFX doubled up SSBM, and you tell me that FFX was released about a week before that poll. SA2B was released very early in the year, and Metroid Prime was a monumental release late in the year. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:24:11 PM | message detail |
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Also... since when do we take anything from 2K2 seriously? Honestly, if
it's not from 2K3 or further on, it doesn't hold any serious weight in
debating things. --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:25:15 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, the Sonic Adventure games score about one-quarter in the favorite
Sonic poll, which is pretty good considering everyone seems to think
Sonic fans hate them. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:25:36 PM | message detail |
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And yes, recency plays a huge role in GotY polls. I say FFX doubled up SSBM, and you tell me that FFX was released about a week before that poll. SA2B was released very early in the year, and Metroid Prime was a monumental release late in the year. Not to mention Nintendo pushing it more than any other Nintendo game that year. --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/8/2006 10:26:10 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, it shows that the Genesis platformers are where Sonic draws
nearly all of his strength from (64.70% of that poll). I don't argue
with that at all, and it might be enough to beat SSB. But SA2B isn't
strong, and, even if it was, SSBM is a much stronger game on the same
console. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/RPGuy.jpg |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:26:19 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and that's scoring one-quarter BEFORE being ported to the GameCube and getting better sales. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:27:07 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, it shows that the Genesis platformers are where Sonic draws nearly all of his strength from (64.70% of that poll). And who would honestly expect any different? What's your point? --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Mobius32 | Posted 7/8/2006 10:27:07 PM | message detail |
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I STILL THINK HALO Should ve won, Master Chief got his butt kicked by MIDEVIL GUYS! (Why couldn't he just pull out his Fuel Rod Launcher and blow them all up?) --- Error: No signature. |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:27:44 PM | message detail |
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Although I'm not sure where we get the idea that less than two-thirds = "Nearly all" --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:27:48 PM | message detail |
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Oxygen. You. Wasting it. --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/8/2006 10:27:49 PM | message detail |
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RPGuy, it's really not worth it to argue in this topic about Sonic/SSB
anymore. Everything you've said, I've probably said like 10 times
already. At this point I'm just waiting on the match to see what
happens. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/8/2006 10:28:16 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, it shows that the Genesis platformers are where Sonic draws
nearly all of his strength from (64.70% of that poll). I don't argue
with that at all, and it might be enough to beat SSB. But SA2B isn't
strong, and, even if it was, SSBM is a much stronger game on the same
console. Um... But... The point I'm making is that the series has more games to draw from and will certainly be far, far stronger than any single entry... --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/8/2006 10:28:20 PM | message detail |
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My point is that SA2B is going to be weak and isn't going to help the
Sonic series, and the fanbase consists of the Genesis games. Which are
powerful in their own right, but not diverse. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/RPGuy.jpg |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:29:24 PM | message detail |
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Except that I hardly see that as a viable point to prove what you're trying to argue. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:29:30 PM | message detail |
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My point is that SA2B is going to be weak and isn't going to help
the Sonic series, and the fanbase consists of the Genesis games. Which
are powerful in their own right, but not diverse. Would anyone in here seriously give any CV game any sort of strength in a contest aside from SOTN? Be honest now. I disagree with you, but going back and forth on that single issue is going to change your mind, so I pose this question instead. --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:29:35 PM | message detail |
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Much stronger game on the same console? I scoff. Maybe if it had to go
up against SA2:B alone I'd be scared. But it has the combined might of
SA:DX, SA2:B, Sonic Heroes, and Shadow the Hedgehog to go up against.
And yes, I say this in all dead seriousness. There are a ton of people
I've seen who, despite not preferring any single one of those games to
SSBM, consider the Sonic series the best series ever based on those games. Any "anti-" factor will be negligible, I think (though StH may push that theory). --- Commit it to memory. |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:30:46 PM | message detail |
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I'm especially wondering where you get the idea that the fanbase isn't
"diverse" when not even a quarter of the fanbase can decide what's the
favorite game. I can't think of ANY other favorites poll where that's
the case. It would probably be the case in a Mega Man Classic poll, but we don't have one of those. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:30:57 PM | message detail |
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Also, if SAB2 is such a weak piece of crap, where the hell does Shadow draw his strength from? --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:31:32 PM | message detail |
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Blaxploitation? --- Commit it to memory. |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/8/2006 10:31:36 PM | message detail |
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Also, if SAB2 is such a weak piece of crap, where the hell does Shadow draw his strength from? I always forget to make that damn point!!! --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:32:01 PM | message detail |
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Man, I knew I was forgetting to mention something! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/8/2006 10:33:01 PM | message detail |
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oh come on he's just a sonic proxy, duh. >_> /never believed that. --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/8/2006 10:33:23 PM | message detail |
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mnm is right, it isn't worth it. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/RPGuy.jpg |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:33:28 PM | message detail |
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I hate Shadow! --- Commit it to memory. |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:33:32 PM | message detail |
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Liquid Snake's just a Solid Snake proxy! Look at SC2K4! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:33:53 PM | message detail |
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mnm is right, it isn't worth it. Sure, you say that now that I've brought up Shadow! --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:34:22 PM | message detail |
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mnm is right, it isn't worth it. Trying to argue against Board 8 when it comes to ANYTHING Super Smash Brothers (SSBM was responsible for the boost!!!!!!) is hardly any better. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:34:42 PM | message detail |
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Poor, poor, Liquid "I would take him over Frog again if given the chance and he wouldn't have lost to fricking Pac-Man" Snake... --- Commit it to memory. |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 7/8/2006 10:34:52 PM | message detail |
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mnm is right, it isn't worth it. Let's be honest... Is it ever worth it? Of course not. But it passes the time. :) Anyway, if you get the perfect instead of me, that's just fine. I still am not convinced that EITHER of us will get the perfect, to be honest. But I have no problem with either of us getting it, since we both made ridiculous picks last year, so the irony would be delicious. :) --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/8/2006 10:35:43 PM | message detail |
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Good. It didn't make any sense in the first place. Not my fault you don't give my points credit on that matter. Shadow does have to get his strength from somewhere though, point taken, but that doesn't mean anything for the game. We've seen two polls that look bad for the game and one poll that looks good for a character from it (and, in that year that had Mario/Shadow [which was later proven that Shadow over-performed], that was Sonic's worst year)...where's your loyalty going? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:37:25 PM | message detail |
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I don't think Sonic lost popularity from SA2, if that's the implication... --- Commit it to memory. |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 10:37:41 PM | message detail |
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Not my fault you don't give my points credit on that matter. I would have if it was worth giving credit. Shadow does have to get his strength from somewhere though, point taken, but that doesn't mean anything for the game. We've seen two polls that look bad for the game and one poll that looks good for a character from it (and, in that year that had Mario/Shadow [which was later proven that Shadow over-performed], that was Sonic's worst year)...where's your loyalty going? But Shadow is still a rather strong character. He scored 49%+ on the lead of FFX and has shown himself to be nearly as strong as Knuckles with only two releases to draw from, at the time. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/8/2006 10:38:19 PM | message detail |
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(and, in that year that had Mario/Shadow [which was later proven that Shadow over-performed], that was Sonic's worst year) To be fair we've only seen him twice, you choose to believe he overperformed in his match with Mario than underperformed in the next. Granted I'd lean towards him overperforming rather than underperforming, but no one can really say for certain. Regardless, it's not like he's some weak piece either way. --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 7/8/2006 10:39:07 PM | message detail |
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Last time I checked the X-stats page (admittedly, it's been a while), Shadow was stronger than Knuckles. --- Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/8/2006 10:39:24 PM | message detail |
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Actually, I'm not convinced that wasn't just his 2k2 strength, seeing
as how the 2k2 stats are messed up and he only beat a newcomer, a
boosted Sweet Sixteener, and Ken. --- Commit it to memory. |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/8/2006 10:40:16 PM | message detail |
| We also don't know if Shadow would of gotten the Sonic boost that happened last year but it's likely. I'd defiantly take him over Tidus if they match up again this year. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/8/2006 10:40:29 PM | message detail |
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Damn, if only I was here a few minutes ago. I saw the SA2 argument, and
was about to post the Shadow argument until I refreshed and saw EC post
it. Ah well, Shadow is probably one of the biggest reasons why I think SA2/B is one of, if not, the most popular Sonic game here. There's other reasons, such as good sales and exposing Sonic to the Nintendo fanbase, but looking at how strong Shadow is, and how he got 49% on Tidus and 45% on Mario (fluke or not) from one game...well, yeah. --- Moltar Status: Disappointed, I lost my perfect bracket. Kingdom Hearts vs. Harvest Moon - Bracket: KH - Vote: KH (6/7) |
| transience | Posted 7/8/2006 11:13:26 PM | message detail |
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my thoughts for the day: - nice prediction percentage. - KH is doing pretty much as I expected. it'll rise a couple of points in the day and end at a tripling. I've always questioned KH's ability to blow things out. I'd say Castlevania/KH is a close match, but I'm giving the edge to KH on recency. - Sonic/SSB is the new MM/MK, a match that's getting overanalyzed to death. it's really simple - if people vote on quantity, Sonic wins, and if they vote on quality SSB wins. (you can argue with me that Sonic's games are better, but no way do any of them beat SSBM in a poll. in fact, I'd question if a single one of them would beat SSB.) and SA2B... yeah, I fought this one already. this is the most boring match ever. bring on Madden! --- xyzzy |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/8/2006 11:15:59 PM | message detail |
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but I'm giving the edge to KH on recency. If anything, being a recently born series has worked against you in this contest so far. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| transience | Posted 7/8/2006 11:24:23 PM | message detail |
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recently born, yeah. there's a difference between being a young series and having the biggest game on the site currently out. --- xyzzy |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/9/2006 12:20:10 AM | message detail |
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Type 2 Insomnia ****ing sucks to have. Our two biggest first round upsets involve Halo. You won't ever see me taking that game/series in another remotely controversial match again. I was kind of banking on Halo 2 to cause the series to boost; I should have figured that it wasn't going to do much given that Master Chief looked unimpressive last year. It really sucks that I'm out of the contest and have no reason to care about it after one week, too. Now all I can hope for is for all hell to break loose. FFT whipping Pokemon's ass in the NCAAs makes me feel better, though. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| ecyc333 | Posted 7/9/2006 12:20:44 AM | message detail |
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<insert witty comment to attempt post#500> --- Friends are for losers. Enemies are better 'cause you know they'll stab you, and probably in the front. ~Euphoric Ghost |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/9/2006 12:29:04 AM | message detail |
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Okay. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Chinballz | Posted 7/9/2006 12:30:35 AM | message detail |
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http://normand1.ytmnd.com/ --- And that's The Word. |
| greatone10 | Posted 7/9/2006 12:30:46 AM | message detail |
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DKC > Castlevania --- RIP Eddie Guerrero 1967-2005 "I set my ATM card's number to "0001" because I'm number one!" - Manfred von Karma |
| Draco1214 | Posted 7/9/2006 12:32:45 AM | message detail |
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Street Fighter > Resident Evil. Got it memorized? --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Currently Playing - Suikoden V, Capcom vs. SNK 2 |
| Janus5000 | Posted 7/9/2006 12:32:49 AM | message detail |
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The Plan > METAL GEAR!? --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |