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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 302
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| creativename | Posted 7/5/2006 11:17:03 PM | message detail |
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What's wrong with this topic...? Why are people acting all shocked?? Metal Gear is only doing 2-3 points above expectations, hardly a "stunning" performance. Hell, Metroid and Mega Man X both overperformed expectations by more going by the current %. I predicted 68.5% in the Oracle and most had higher picks than me. This isn't the overperformance you're looking for, move along. Though I do agree this pretty much throws out KH>MG, because that would've relied on Metal Gear showing substantial weakness as well as KH showing strength. MG did have some downside volatility in this match but that hasn't materialized, hence it is very safe to win the division. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 11:18:50 PM | message detail |
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Here's a question: which MGS games, if any, would you take over LoZ:WW?
It should be the strongest game behind Starcraft that's not considered
a regular anomaly (like Halo is believed to be), and it's interesting
to note that all three MGS games outrank it in the Top 100 List. Add to
it that LoZ:WW is noticably behind the original LoZ on that same list
and -- though it may have been SFF'd by SMB3 -- LoZ's not far above
MGS2 in the Game Contest's stats. LoZ:WW was still GotY here though and
is a huge title for the Gamecube, not to mention the main Zelda game
this generation thus far. It's also worth mentioning that the LoZ
series WILL beat the MG series in style this contest... ...any takers on a MGS game > LoZ:WW? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Janus5000 | Posted 7/5/2006 11:22:05 PM | message detail |
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Metal Gear is only doing 2-3 points above expectations ...Based on what? --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/5/2006 11:23:25 PM | message detail |
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creative, in the history of these topics, people overreacting is totally to be expected :P --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/5/2006 11:23:26 PM | message detail |
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I predicted 68.5% in the Oracle and most had higher picks than me.
This isn't the overperformance you're looking for, move along. Most topic regulars are huge Metal Gear Solid fans. Heck, I am as well. Also, like most others, I have it winning its division. Strangely, I have no idea why I'm not that happy right now... maybe because a few people are being pretty annoying about this. --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/5/2006 11:25:08 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and another possible reason: Metal Gear was the subject of some
doubt and debate. Metroid and Mega Man X were not. This match has
likely quelled some people's fears. --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| Aprosenf | Posted 7/5/2006 11:25:30 PM | message detail |
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Whew, I'm *finally* caught up again with the stats topic. I read every post I missed this weekend. Anyways, I'd take MGS but neither MGS2 nor MGS3 over WW. All 3 feel like they'd be close, though. --- For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener |
| Aprosenf | Posted 7/5/2006 11:28:54 PM | message detail |
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Apro's Half-Assed Analysis (AHAA) (Once again I missed a match; that's how half-assed these are, they I am actually trying to do each match...in a half-assed manner) Ah, a match worth debating. The ol' fodder-on-fodder action. It's Vyse/Laharl, and Vergil/Ghaleon all over again. Nobody gives a damn about either series in this match. If Marth and Roy weren't in SSBM, I'd be worried, but their presence should be more than enough to propel Fire Emblem to a low votal 60-40 win. --- For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener |
| creativename | Posted 7/5/2006 11:32:46 PM | message detail |
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Janus5000: ...Based on what? People's predictions. yoblazer33: Oh, and another possible reason: Metal Gear was the subject of some doubt and debate. Metroid and Mega Man X were not. This match has likely quelled some people's fears. Indeed, there was some concern about Metal Gear's contest performance. There were concerns about Metroid and MMX strength too but since their contest paths were sealed I guess people didn't care about those series confirming people's expectations of their strengths, though for MMX it has relevance for the MM/Mario Kart match. Metal Gear has shown that fears about it losing the division need no longer be a concern. Which is good for it. But people in this topic are acting as if it is just blowing away all percentage expectations, which is just nonsense. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/5/2006 11:35:37 PM | message detail |
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and it's interesting to note that all three MGS games outrank it in the Top 100 List. Okay, now the Top 100 List thing with you is really starting to get rather old. <_<; With as many popular Nintendo titles there are, there simply wasn't enough room for Wind Waker to hit a significant amount of Top Ten lists to put it up there. It not only had to fight with OoT, LttP, and LoZ, but it also had to fight SM64, Super Mario World, SSBM, and the rest of the Nintendo games above it. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/5/2006 11:36:38 PM | message detail |
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Alright. Discuss these people who keep saying "omg Halo > KH" jibber jabber and how it makes any passable sense at all. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/5/2006 11:38:41 PM | message detail |
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Because people insist that the Kingdom Hearts of 2k4 is the Kingdom
Hearts of today and since Soul Calibur is exposed, KH supposedly has no
chance. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/5/2006 11:39:56 PM | message detail |
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Right, we all saw what the Halo 2 boost did for Master
Chief...<_< ok maybe thats not a good comparison, but come on,
any big time Squaresoft franchise can take Halo down. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 11:43:44 PM | message detail |
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Why are people acting all shocked?? There were a good number of people in here who thought Soul Calibur would keep this closer due to perhaps its own strength and Metal Gear not being as strong. No one in the Analysis Crew predicted this match to be over 70% (Moltar and I had the highest with 67%), but it's at least somewhat understandable why they would go crazy. Of course, others like KH and myself were extremely pleased to see Metal Gear doing so well because it just kicks ass. =p ...any takers on a MGS game > LoZ:WW? Give me Metal Gear Solid over The Wind Waker in a heartbeat. The may wouldn't be a blowout by any means, but it wouldn't be one of those that went back and forth. I would expect Metal Gear Solid to take the lead and never worry about losing it. I still say that MGS can hang with SSBM if the two faced off against each other. I think it is clearly on that level of the playing field. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/5/2006 11:44:17 PM | message detail |
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That's how I feel. And I'm still not convinced about Halo being overly
strong myself. We know it has a strong dedicated fanbase, but it has to
be able to get votes outside of that. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/5/2006 11:46:43 PM | message detail |
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Oh it'll beat Castlevania most definitely, but KH is totally pushing it. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 11:48:59 PM | message detail |
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And I think MGS3/TWW would be pretty close, but probably
TWW winning ... maybe. I think I might choose MGS3 out of bias because
I figured it'd be close enough to go for it there. Both have reasonable
arguments to choose to win, though. MGS2 ... yeah, it'd be close, but MGS2 isn't going to be winning that one I don't think. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/5/2006 11:51:08 PM | message detail |
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MGS3 would crush TWW if ya ask me. MGS2 maybe not. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 11:53:15 PM | message detail |
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I would love for Castlevania to win its fourpack, but there's no way that's happening. As for the whole Halo/KH thing, I don't think today's match is really changing my opinion too much on that match. Kingdom Hearts in 2004 is not the same Kingdom Hearts now thanks to Kingdom Hearts II. I think it's gained quite a bit of popularity, because KHII was significantly better than Kingdom Hearts and I like to think most people have realized that. That does not mean Halo stands no chance, as Halo is a strong series here, regardless of Xbox hate or whatever. It should be a close match, but I think Kingdom Hearts pulls that one out. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 11:54:08 PM | message detail |
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For the record, MC is 0-3 against Square characters...heh. About the Top 100 List I always bring up...I think it was fine how I just used it there. If SC is a sign of anything tonight, LoZ:WW could be much lower than it shows, and the Top 100 List shows it as being much lower. With the debates of LoZ VS LoZ:WW, seeing LoZ be quite a bit ahead of LoZ:WW could be a sign...and LoZ ain't that far ahead of MGS2. With the Metal Gear series decimating the SC series (which had SC behind Starcraft like LoZ:WW) and the other things mentioned on top of MGS being SFF'd and having no true bracket-contest-knowledge of MGS3, it's reasonable to ask if any MGS game could beat LoZ:WW...and, when thinkin' about it, seeing all three MGS games outrank it in the most recent contest-related info we have is relevant, though I would think we both agree that how much LoZ:WW would drop due to Starcraft is more important to the situation than how they rank up. It's simply something that shouldn't be ignored, either. Of course, so is three other LoZ games outranking LoZ:WW and having to compete with more games from its series than MGS had to -- I ain't ever said it's flawless. Using the Top 100 List here is defendable though, is all...but now that this has strayed, I'll ask again: what MGS games, if any, would you take over LoZ:WW? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 11:55:43 PM | message detail |
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I think it would pull it out, but I don't know about this "crushing" business. The Wind Waker wasn't
weak at all. It was one of the stronger games in the contest, even if
it is overrated a bit by that StarCraft run. I think it'd be close, but
MGS3 takes it. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/5/2006 11:56:34 PM | message detail |
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Honestly I think TWW would kinda decrease in popularity myself. And by crush I totally mean MGS3 with like 55 <_< --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/6/2006 12:14:36 AM | message detail |
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I don't know if I would take any of the MGS games over WW
with it still being NintenFAQs, regardless of how well MGS is doing
today. WW may crumble in the presence of a Nintendo game more popular
on this site (thus why I don't trust the list for its ranking), but as
a standalone game, it still is very popular on this site. It's
no OoT or LttP, but I think MGS has a distinct enough fanbase from WW
to allow WW to get a good amount of the Nintendo support. WW probably
beats MGS by a couple percent. There's no way I take MGS2 or MGS3 over
WW. Overrated or not, the gap between WW and SSBM is large where MGS2
would get 43% on SSBM but then beat WW. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/6/2006 12:18:23 AM | message detail |
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Is that Psycho Mantis in the pic? ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/6/2006 12:20:17 AM | message detail |
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I wouldn't take MGS2 over TWW, no. Like you said, TWW is still a popular game on this site, and there's simply no way it's that
overrated in the stats -- that's nearly a 10% drop from its current
position. I think it's only a few percentage points, myself. It'd be in
an area where I think MGS3 definitely gives it a extremely good fight
and where MGS would win without me having to worry that much. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/6/2006 12:21:54 AM | message detail |
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Mantis, Snake, and Liquid. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/6/2006 12:25:15 AM | message detail |
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MGS might end up ranking around TWW, but I just don't see MGS having
the intangibles to take down a Zelda game just as strong as it (if not
stronger) on this site. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/6/2006 12:28:33 AM | message detail |
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I'd love to be giving Metal Gear Solid the edge here, but any game that
struggles with a Final Fantasy spinoff (Relax, guys. I'm not weary of
its quality; just its power.) doesn't make it easy. --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/6/2006 12:30:38 AM | message detail |
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I'd love to be giving Metal Gear Solid the edge here, but any game that struggles with a Final Fantasy spinoff *loads shotgun* I'll have you know that FFT is a Tactics Ogre spinoff. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/6/2006 12:32:01 AM | message detail |
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Relax, guys. I'm not weary of its quality; just its power. And I wrote that part just for you. =( --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| voltch | Posted 7/6/2006 1:11:35 AM | message detail |
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MG has been getting more attention with mgs4 right? and with snake in the new SSB his status in the noble nine is guarenteed right? --- Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft. BrentfordFC-championship here we come |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/6/2006 1:14:55 AM | message detail |
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Snake's going to the top once MGS4 and SSBB hit, yo. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/6/2006 1:46:27 AM | message detail |
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Define "top," please. --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/6/2006 2:14:53 AM | message detail |
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Snake's going to the top once MGS4 and SSBB hit, yo. Why do I get the feeling that you're going to pull another megaman and have snake winning next years character contest? --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| transience | Posted 7/6/2006 2:29:39 AM | message detail |
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*goes through old stats topics* From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/7/2005 7:31:33 PM | Message Detail Not that I care for Snake in way, shape, or form, but I decided to look at how his performance is making him look in relation to other characters and how much of a "boost" this is looking like based off of a constant Sora. From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/13/2005 5:58:53 PM | Message Detail Bowser over Snake !! *goes to bed* --- xyzzy |
| Gooper Blooper | Posted 7/6/2006 2:57:03 AM | message detail |
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lolz --- People are going to buy two machines. They're going to buy an Xbox and they're going to buy a Wii... for the price of one PS3. - Peter Moore |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/6/2006 3:05:40 AM | message detail |
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HM played the awesomeness that is MGS2, I think. That game actually made me appreciate Snake 10x more than MGS did. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/6/2006 3:18:53 AM | message detail |
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Wow, were just getting into the morning vote (if you'd even call six am
the morning) in the east, and mgs is already dropping in percentage.
Unless something really weird happens there's a good chance it will
finish with under 70% of the vote. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Heroic Viktor | Posted 7/6/2006 5:18:56 AM | message detail |
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Good God this is a drubbing. I think a doubling was the extreme worst I
expected, and this goes well beyond that. Five days in, I am resigned
to not winning, as Kingdom Hearts has no chance at a 20% increase from
KHII. And, if it does, it is winning the entire damn thing. --- RIP - Tnote827 (4/4/05) |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/6/2006 5:52:37 AM | message detail |
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I'll have you know that FFT is a Tactics Ogre spinoff. If thats true, then Halo is a Half Life spinoff. --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/6/2006 7:32:44 AM | message detail |
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Good God this is a drubbing. I think a doubling was the extreme
worst I expected, and this goes well beyond that. Five days in, I am
resigned to not winning, as Kingdom Hearts has no chance at a 20%
increase from KHII. And, if it does, it is winning the entire damn
thing. You actually took Kingdom Hearts over MGS? --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/6/2006 7:37:43 AM | message detail |
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Why is that a surprise? A lot of people did. --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/6/2006 7:40:52 AM | message detail |
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I didn't think any of the stats topic regs did though. I could see KH giving MGS a run, but even with KH2, I don't think KH could actually displace MGS as far as fans of both go. That's something KH would need to do to beat MGS. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/6/2006 7:41:43 AM | message detail |
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Almost a quarter of the BOP entrants picked KH. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are from here. --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| Starion | Posted 7/6/2006 7:52:14 AM | message detail |
| Anyone have a projection on what percent Metal Gear will have by the end of the match? It seems to be slowly losing percentage in the daytime (which is consistent with how the games performed in the games contest). |
| Who Cares? | Posted 7/6/2006 7:52:51 AM | message detail |
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Vote Total comparisions to the other matches thus far. Metal Gear/Soul Calibur - 50205 Pokemon/Star Ocean - 50198 Legend of Zelda/Civilization - 48593 Metroid/Kirby - 46910 Megaman X/Suikoden - 46752 And for what it's worth SC is really trying to push Metal Gear under 70%. --- Character Noms: Ken, Chun-Li, Kasumi, Morrigan, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| CloudSonicblade | Posted 7/6/2006 7:55:18 AM | message detail |
| Zelda is going to win it all! It was the best series ever. On a scale 1 - 10 I would give Zelda a 5981. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/6/2006 7:56:01 AM | message detail |
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I doubt it's going to do it. Not falling fast enough to my taste. --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| Who Cares? | Posted 7/6/2006 8:02:54 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, I think it might bring it under 70% soon, but it won't be able to
keep there for very long. Anybody know when Metal Gear's best time
should be? --- Character Noms: Ken, Chun-Li, Kasumi, Morrigan, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/6/2006 8:11:34 AM | message detail |
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Night Vote. *wants to see a Snake/Sonic match* --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |