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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 302
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| Slowflake | Posted 7/5/2006 9:31:32 PM | message detail |
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Indeed, this match makes thing look very good for Castlevania. It's lucky Halo, KH and Soul Calibur are all linked via the game contest, else this would've sounded completely stupid. --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 9:31:45 PM | message detail |
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MORTAL COMEBACK Okay, that was lame. >_> --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 9:33:10 PM | message detail |
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Hey guys, check the votals. KonamiFAQs > NintendoFAQs |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/5/2006 9:33:32 PM | message detail |
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Looks like this division could still have a few surprises. Although after thinking about it some more, I have a feeling Fire Emblem is going to win by alot more than we are giving it credit to. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 9:33:44 PM | message detail |
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How do we know for sure that SC didn't just fluke against KH or something? I mean, this would make KH seem insanely bad. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| darksnake1302 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:34:00 PM | message detail |
| Did I forget something? I have gotten so far all the games right, but i have 0 points. I already submitted it. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 9:34:36 PM | message detail |
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How do we know for sure that SC didn't just fluke against KH or something? I mean, this would make KH seem insanely bad. DUH |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 9:35:10 PM | message detail |
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SC meaning soul calibur, not starcraft. WHY MUST BOTH GAMES HAVE THE SAME ABBREVIATION?!!?!?!!?!?!? --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 9:35:21 PM | message detail |
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KonamiFAQs > NintendoFAQs Win! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 7/5/2006 9:35:35 PM | message detail |
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STAAAARRRCRAAAFT....YOU GOT SOME 'SPLAINING TO DO... --- Just Got Owned By Guru winner Voltch. |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:35:51 PM | message detail |
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QUICK WITHOUT THINKING: You have 10 extra seconds of access to your bracket RIGHT NOW. Casltevania or Halo? --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:36:01 PM | message detail |
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Halo --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 9:36:12 PM | message detail |
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Uh, Fire Emblem is screwed next match. Silent Hill is Konami, fools! KonamiFAQs is inevitable! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/5/2006 9:36:22 PM | message detail |
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This makes that whole fourpack look bad, along with everything
Starcraft went up against. Which makes no sense because it came really
close to SSB:M *head explodes* TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Janus5000 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:36:23 PM | message detail |
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Halo. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 9:36:50 PM | message detail |
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DUH I'm just saying that kh being this weak seems really unlikely. SC seems to be rebounding though, soit might look more realistic by the end of things, especially given the probability of MG having a crappy day vote. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| cyko | Posted 7/5/2006 9:37:17 PM | message detail |
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just for kicks, i took 10,000 votes away from Starcraft's match against
SSBM to bring the vote totals down to 87630, which is comparable to the
vote totals of FF7 vs. SSBM and CT vs. SMB3. that would've given
Starcraft 43.99% aginst SSBM. that would change unadjusted x-stats to look like this: 7. SSBM =37.57% 8. FFX = 36.86% 9. GTA: VC = 34.91% 10. Legend of Zelda = 34.49% 11. Super Mario World = 34.24% 12. Starcraft = 33.05% 13. Zelda: Wind Waker = 32.98%??? 14. Halo = 32.94%???? 15. Metal Gear Solid 2 = 32.52% 16. Final Fantasy = 32.24% 17. Kingdom Hearts = 30.69% 18. Soul Calibur = 30.32% 19. Metroid Prime = 29.54%??? 20. Metal Gear Solid = 28.70%? 21. Final Fantasy Tactics = 28.68%? granted, that doesn't even take into account any funny business between Starcraft and Wind Waker or whatever happened in Halo vs. Starcraft. and if MGS1 faced any kind of SFF against FF7, it rises above KH and SC with relative ease. but it falls a little more in line with The List. and that large amount of cheated votes for Starcraft is a viable possibility.... DUN DUN DUN!!! --- "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women...." - Homer Simpson |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/5/2006 9:37:18 PM | message detail |
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What about Wind Waker and Metroid Prime? Is Half-Life really as pathetic as Gordon Freeman? ARRRRRRRRRGH --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 9:37:51 PM | message detail |
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*head explodes* Best summary of the current match results thusfar. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 9:38:01 PM | message detail |
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Just you wait until Metal Gear owns that day vote!! You have 10 extra seconds of access to your bracket RIGHT NOW. Casltevania or Halo? ... I wanna so badly say Castlevania. But Halo. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 9:38:46 PM | message detail |
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Maybe, just maybe, I was right when I said series =/= games way back
when. That would be awesome if I was right for once. >_> --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| swirIdude | Posted 7/5/2006 9:39:27 PM | message detail |
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QUICK WITHOUT THINKINGIf Halo faces Kingdom Hearts, who wins and with what %? --- Xbox 360 melts disks! And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/5/2006 9:39:30 PM | message detail |
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At the very least I don't think Halo will lead from start to finish anymore. --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 9:39:43 PM | message detail |
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Which makes no sense because it came really close to SSB:M Because it cheated. And CJayC didn't remove the votes. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 9:39:55 PM | message detail |
| You know, I need to remind everyone: this isn't near Metal Gear's best time. During SC2k5, the gains it made during the tail end of the match (i.e. right now) was modest at best. You wait until the early morning hours, then we're in BIG MG territory. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:40:10 PM | message detail |
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This makes that whole fourpack look bad, along with everything Frog
went up against. Which makes no sense because he came really close to
Snake. This makes that whole fourpack look bad, along with everything Magus went up against. Which makes no sense because he came really close to Link. This makes that whole division look bad, along with everything Sephiroth went up against. Which makes no sense because he came really close to Link. lol c wut i did thar --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/RPGuy.jpg |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:40:12 PM | message detail |
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Kingdom Hearts with 53% --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 9:40:56 PM | message detail |
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... I wanna so badly say Castlevania. But Halo. Ditto. At the very most castlevania might have a small lead in the prime of the night vote. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/5/2006 9:41:06 PM | message detail |
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I don't think it's just that Starcraft overrates things in it's part of
it's bracket, it's that it overrates weaker things more than it does
stronger things. There's no sense in continuing to vote stuff when
you're safely ahead of your competition. Hell Halo/Starcraft? 112,000
votes, Halo/KH? 75,000. That's a huge discrepancy, and if Starcraft had
needed more votes, I'm sure it could have pushed for it, but why risk
it when you have your victory already secured? I think it's apparent
that Halo was a much stronger entity than Kingdom Hearts ever was,
especially by a much larger than the x-stats show, I'd bet my life that
Starcraft recieved countless more cheated votes in it's match against
Halo than it did againt KH, and when it went up againt SSB, it received
it's maximum amount of cheat votes as a result of actually losing to
it. So of course the cheated votes would continue to pour in, thus
raising everyone up in the x-stats. I know that last point is not
debated, but the fact that it only upgrades Halo very slightly compared
to the huge upgrade it gives to KH is something I believe to be
extremely apparent. I know I'm not the first one to ever think this, or type it out in here, but I don't see how it could be ignored how much stronger Halo is when compared to Kingdom Hearts. --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 9:42:24 PM | message detail |
| In other words: Soul Calibur *will* get tripled during the course of this match. And it might not get MG below 70%. BOOK IT. |
| swirIdude | Posted 7/5/2006 9:42:38 PM | message detail |
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I don't see how it could be ignored how much stronger Halo is when compared to Kingdom Hearts. Because of the stigma of Xbox hate and Square love that this site has. I understand all of the things mentioned in your post, and seeing Halo beat Kingdom Hearts would STILL surprise me, just because of that. --- Xbox 360 melts disks! And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 9:42:51 PM | message detail |
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Hell Halo/Starcraft? 112,000 votes, Halo/KH? 75,000. I kind of doubt that the vote stuffing was quite that bad. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| meche313 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:43:30 PM | message detail |
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You know, MG is already starting to drop a lot. --- “Impossible is a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit.” - Vyse Currently playing: Zelda: Alttp, Donkey Kong Country, Rogue Squadron II. Resident Evil: Code Veronica X |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:43:42 PM | message detail |
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Halo was definitely stronger in 2004, but this is 2006. I have a
feeling that Kingdom Hearts has overtaken it during these past two
years (especially during the past few months), and I obviously took
that feeling to heart when making my bracket. --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/5/2006 9:43:42 PM | message detail |
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Also, you have to take into account that the poll position was changed
smack dab in the middle of Soul Calibur/KH, which fell between the
first two Starcraft matches. --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 9:44:10 PM | message detail |
| In percentage, yeah it's falling steadily. But like I said -- this isn't the best time, the time when he actually won some convincing updates against Mario. |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/5/2006 9:45:02 PM | message detail |
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Also, you have to take into account that the poll position was
changed smack dab in the middle of Soul Calibur/KH, which fell between
the first two Starcraft matches. Ah, didn't really know about that one, I didn't really follow Spring 2K4 all that closely, so I basically have to look through matches, updates, and whatnot to get a feel for what occured. Care to explain more in detail? --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/5/2006 9:45:09 PM | message detail |
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Wasn't there some funky poll positioning going on during that contest
though? That's why some polls had near 100,000 and some struggled to
break 70,000. If KH Vs. Starcraft had about 75,000 it was probably a
poll with bad positioning. --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/5/2006 9:46:31 PM | message detail |
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Basically, before the poll changed places it was around where it is
now. But with the advent of the "new" (now "old") design, you actually
had to SCROLL DOWN to see the poll. --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 9:46:42 PM | message detail |
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Ah, didn't really know about that one, I didn't really follow Spring
2K4 all that closely, so I basically have to look through matches,
updates, and whatnot to get a feel for what occured. Care to explain
more in detail? IIRC when the poll position changed, it became to low to view unless you scrolled down on the main page, which would prevent a lot of random passer byers from seeing it. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Draco1214 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:47:01 PM | message detail |
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If Marth and Roy are on the next match pic, it's auto-lose for Silent Hill. --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Currently Playing - Suikoden V, Capcom vs. SNK 2 |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/5/2006 9:47:12 PM | message detail |
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Regardless of the actual number of total votes, I stand by my
statement, as it makes sense that the weaker the opponent, the less the
stuffed votes, making the opponent look stronger. It just wouldn't be
to the extent I was leading myself to believe looking at votals. To
ignore it completely however, I think is completely crazy. --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 9:48:42 PM | message detail |
| Yeah, Halo/Starcraft did end up having the biggest votals of the contest by FAR. I can't bring myself to believe that was all legitimate. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 9:48:50 PM | message detail |
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Regardless of the actual number of total votes, I stand by my
statement, as it makes sense that the weaker the opponent, the less the
stuffed votes, making the opponent look stronger. It just wouldn't be
to the extent I was leading myself to believe looking at votals. To
ignore it completely however, I think is completely crazy. Do you think that the stuffed votes played that big of a factor in starcrafts victories? I can see maybe five thousand or so , and even then it's unlikely that so many wouldn't be caught. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/5/2006 9:49:26 PM | message detail |
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Do you think that the stuffed votes played that big of a factor in
starcrafts victories? I can see maybe five thousand or so , and even
then it's unlikely that so many wouldn't be caught. Do you really think they didn't? --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 9:49:47 PM | message detail |
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Out of curiosity, how are the vote totals for this match compared to the others? --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/5/2006 9:50:03 PM | message detail |
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Now that I think about it, could today's blowout be a result of Soul
Calibur just dying off in popularity? It's been a few years since Soul
Calibur 2, and we haven't heard much of anything from the series
outside of SC3. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:50:09 PM | message detail |
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Regardless of the actual number of total votes, I stand by my
statement, as it makes sense that the weaker the opponent, the less the
stuffed votes, making the opponent look stronger. That would make Halo slightly stronger than Wind Waker, which I find hard to believe. --- Board 8: Where people treat each other right. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 9:50:13 PM | message detail |
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Do you really think they didn't? Well you just suggested as much as about 25k stuffed votes for starcraft. I find that unlikely... --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 7/5/2006 9:51:11 PM | message detail |
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"I kind of doubt that the vote stuffing was quite that bad." It was. Starcraft would of lost to Halo by a decent amount if it wasn't for cheating. --- Can't think of a good sig. |