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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 301
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| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:04:31 PM | message detail |
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Who the hell is taking it as directly reflective? It's a useful
tool, one that can be used to come to certain conclusions (i.e. MGS
> MGS2, even though it should have been bloody obvious). I seriously doubt people would use it to say Goldeneye, Metal Gear Solid, and Halo all >>>> Final Fantasy VI, though. I never said that it was completely useless, but it isn't exactly absolute fact either. A lot of weak things can get relatively high seeds, and it makes some things look much stronger then they really are. And then when you consider the fact that a lot of games weren't on the drop down list, things get complicated further. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 1:04:33 PM | message detail |
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Top five, you mean -- FF3/6 was #6 in the x-stats, and SSBM was at #7. Still though, for the top five to be the same in both and the other two be in the top ten, that's not bad for accuracy...then for every ****-up you can find in the list, you can likely find something right about it too. Like x-stats...who would have thought. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:06:10 PM | message detail |
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Last time I checked, the Top 6 of the Top 100 are exactly the same
as the Top 6 in Sp2004's X-stats. I'd say that's pretty damn reflective
of the games' strengths, but I guess that's just me. Looking outside the top ten, there are many things wrong with the list. My only point is that being on the list doesn't automatically make a game strong, and not making the list doesn't make a game weak. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:07:37 PM | message detail |
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Still though, for the top five to be the same in both and the other
two be in the top ten, that's not bad for accuracy...then for every
****-up you can find in the list, you can likely find something right
about it too. That isn't my problem with it. My problem is less that people assume games on it are strong, and more that some people assume games not on it are weak. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| voltch | Posted 7/5/2006 1:08:12 PM | message detail |
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i wonder if Halo 2 is more popular than halo --- Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft. BrentfordFC-championship here we come |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 1:08:46 PM | message detail |
| I ask again -- who does that??? |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:10:04 PM | message detail |
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I ask again -- who does that??? You've never heard anyone say that mega man and mega man x are weak because they didn't get a game on the top 100? --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 1:11:31 PM | message detail |
| Well, there's always SOME people that will draw ridiculous conclusions from the list. I don't see it as some sort of widespread thing that you make it out to be, though. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 1:12:29 PM | message detail |
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You've never heard anyone say that mega man and mega man x are weak because they didn't get a game on the top 100? A couple of choice people resort to saying something stupid like that. Most of us know that is not a reason to think Mega Man games are weak. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:13:00 PM | message detail |
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Where did I say it was widespread? I just sad that the list shouldn't
be taken as absolute fact, and that a few things should be considered
when looking at it. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Yesmar | Posted 7/5/2006 1:13:20 PM | message detail |
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My two cents on Castlevania/Halo: Castlevania might have a lot more games, but I really don't think they're that popular other than Symphony of the Night and Dawn of Sorrow. As far as the old school games are concerned: They're old. I don't think GameFAQS has as much of an old-school fanbase as is stated at times. Look at what happened in the 8-Bit Division. Simon Belmont also performed "meh" in 2002, and I highly doubt he'd do better now. Castlevania might have had the more recent game in either series, but in regards to recent attitudes at this web site, Halo is vastly more popular. Halo 2 was able to come in second in the 2004 GOTY poll, despite substantial X-Box hate on this web site. Master Chief also managed to get 39% against Crono, without anything pointing towards that being an anomaly. That's no laughing matter. Other than having more games, I see no advantage Castlevania has over Halo. Castlevania might have been popular back in the day, but it's a new day, and Castlevania has started to fade away, whereas Halo has emerged as a strong new series, even on GameFAQS. --- "Dropo! You're the laziest man on Mars." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 1:14:01 PM | message detail |
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Where did I say it was widespread? I just sad that the list
shouldn't be taken as absolute fact, and that a few things should be
considered when looking at it. But we all know that already. Preaching to the converted here. <.< |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:14:30 PM | message detail |
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A couple of choice people resort to saying something stupid like
that. Most of us know that is not a reason to think Mega Man games are
weak. I'm aware of that, but the list still has some issues with it, such as the placement of certain games that are not very strong in a contest setting (tetris anyone?). --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 1:15:12 PM | message detail |
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Oh yeah, the drop-down box could have used a LOT more games...or, hell,
just not have a drop-down box at all would have been the best. Instead,
we got a list of 130, which made it VERY biased for those 130
games...but amongst those games, it's not as bad as people make it out
to be I figure. We could have easily stood another seventy games or so,
at least -- with the Sonic's/Mega Man's/Mario Kart's/Star Fox's/Donkey
Kong's/old-school classics that were snubbed, that would have been a
great start for 200. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:16:00 PM | message detail |
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But we all know that already. Preaching to the converted here. <.< I'm just generally making a statement due to the deadness of this topic right now... I have seen some people try to use the list as a means of claiming certain series will be weak. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Phediuk | Posted 7/5/2006 1:17:11 PM | message detail |
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FACT OR FICTION: Halo 2 would have been in the Top 15 if it had been on the drop-down list. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:18:15 PM | message detail |
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Oh yeah, the drop-down box could have used a LOT more games...or,
hell, just not have a drop-down box at all would have been the best.
Instead, we got a list of 130, which made it VERY biased for those 130
games...but amongst those games, it's not as bad as people make it out
to be I figure. We could have easily stood another seventy games or so,
at least -- with the Sonic's/Mega Man's/Mario Kart's/Star Fox's/Donkey
Kong's/old-school classics that were snubbed, that would have been a
great start for 200. Personally I think the list would be better if the drop down list simply didn't exist. I mean, didn't 98 out of the 130 games on it make the top 100? It seems more like a way of ranking those 130 games then a way of making a legitimate top 100 list, even if a lot of those games would have made it regardless, a lot also wouldn't have. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:20:01 PM | message detail |
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FACT OR FICTION: Halo 2 would have been in the Top 15 if it had been on the drop-down list. I'm going to go with fact. It was one of the two games not on the drop down list that made the top 100, and the only one of those two that wasn't massively adored by board 8 at the time. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 1:22:21 PM | message detail |
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FACT to Pheduik...no doubt. There's a real chance Halo 2 could have beaten Halo. Master Chief also managed to get 39% against Crono, without anything pointing towards that being an anomaly. Oh, you mean other than MC-2k3, DK-2k3, Fisher-2k3-through-Magus-2k5 (since Magus was proven to be over-rated in 2k3), and face-CATS line up practically perfectly until MC/Crono? Or are you saying Donkey Konga, Chaos Theory, and a good picture for a joke did as much good for their characters as Halo 2 did for MC? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:24:03 PM | message detail |
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I expect halo to be much more successful then MC. It's quite easy to like halo but feel completely indifferently about MC. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 1:24:23 PM | message detail |
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Having no drop-down box would have made that contest both more of a blast and more accurate. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 1:29:26 PM | message detail |
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Having no drop-down box would have made that contest both more of a blast and more accurate. Indeed. Then you could got nuts making love to that Top 100 list, because it would be far more accurate!! Heh. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:34:04 PM | message detail |
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A thought just came to my head: how well do you think a jedi would do
in the contest? Such as kyle katarn from the jedi knight series, or
bastilla shan or jolee bindo from kotor... do you think they would be
stronger due to being lightsabre wielding jedi? --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 1:34:12 PM | message detail |
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You don't make love to hookers, you snort cocaine off of them like EC says. By the way EC, tell your mom I'm quitting my addiction and won't be needing her anymore. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Yesmar | Posted 7/5/2006 1:35:44 PM | message detail |
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Oh, you mean other than MC-2k3, DK-2k3, Fisher-2k3-through-Magus-2k5
(since Magus was proven to be over-rated in 2k3), and face-CATS line up
practically perfectly until MC/Crono? Or are you saying Donkey Konga,
Chaos Theory, and a good picture for a joke did as much good for their
characters as Halo 2 did for MC? 1) First of all, if Donkey Kong got a boost it would come as part of the general Nintendo Boost and not because of Donkey Konga. All other Nintendo characters that weren't SFF'd got one, and I would find it odd if Donkey Kong did not 2) If you plug Sam Fisher's 33.75 result on Magus in 2003 and Magus's X-Stat value from 2005 into the X-Stats formula, Sam Fisher's X-Stat value does not change by any substantial amount (it actually goes up) 3) I would think that a joke character would benefit IMMENSELY from having a more recognizable picture. It's not even 1% higher than his Sp2005 value, which was derived from a match using the same picture. --- "Dropo! You're the laziest man on Mars." |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:36:00 PM | message detail |
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0_o o_0 >_> <_< :-) Come closer Harrich... --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 7/5/2006 1:36:32 PM | message detail |
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Then you could got nuts Ohh...so HaRRicH is...ahh... >_>; Provided Metal Gear gets to 60% tomorrow, which it should, the KH/MG doubters should be put to rest. Hopefully --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 1:36:55 PM | message detail |
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*KOTOR SPOILERS SAFETY WARNING FOR JUST IN CASE* I'd say the strongest Jedi would be *SPOILERS* from KotOR, if *SPOILERS* would be allowed. That being said, I would doubt *SPOILERS* being much stronger than HK-47, if at all. *END SPOILERS THAT WEREN'T REALLY SPOILERS* |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:37:24 PM | message detail |
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KH isn't going to get a chance to beat MG since halo is going to crush it. !!! --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| voltch | Posted 7/5/2006 1:38:51 PM | message detail |
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is the CATS joke getting old? --- Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft. BrentfordFC-championship here we come |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 1:40:06 PM | message detail |
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CATs isn't a joke, he's a legitimate contender. Move zig. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/5/2006 2:14:49 PM | message detail |
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Oh, you mean other than MC-2k3, DK-2k3, Fisher-2k3-through-Magus-2k5
(since Magus was proven to be over-rated in 2k3), and face-CATS line up
practically perfectly until MC/Crono? Or are you saying Donkey Konga,
Chaos Theory, and a good picture for a joke did as much good for their
characters as Halo 2 did for MC? The GBA port of DKC2 was a bigger game than Donkey Konga, in case you didn't know. It was also a better game, so it probably had much more of an impact. Also, if MC did overperform, those other games still did as much good for their characters as Halo 2 did for MC. I don't see the point of that statement. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 2:23:25 PM | message detail |
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Okay, so maybe DK is justified to boost that much, what with Donkey
Konga, the DKC2 port, and the Nintendo Boost. The picture for CATS and
the third SC game (when Samus beat the he-holy hell out of Fisher after
the second SC released) boosting both of them though, that much,
proportionately, as well as DK and MC? Nope, I'll stay with Master
Chief/Halo being an oddity instead. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/5/2006 2:23:45 PM | message detail |
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They're old. I don't think GameFAQS has as much of an old-school
fanbase as is stated at times. Look at what happened in the 8-Bit
Division. Simon Belmont also performed "meh" in 2002, and I highly
doubt he'd do better now. The pre 32-bit era Castlevania games accounted for 28.46% of the favorites poll, so that's not even taking the fans that voted SotN who also like the older Castlevania games into consideration... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 2:24:27 PM | message detail |
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For what it's worth, I can't argue what it did for the characters except for Master Chief, thus why I left it off. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Eggplant Lord | Posted 7/5/2006 2:28:09 PM | message detail |
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From HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 9:08:25 AM | #163 So...since many of us would have taken Mario Kart over Metroid, how many people think Mario Kart could match Metroid's performance today? MK over Metroid? O_o I'd hope that wasn't too popular a pick. /// *Stares at FFVA game info with bloodshot eyes* Release date... Coming... |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/5/2006 2:32:51 PM | message detail |
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So what percentage is today's match looking to finish at? 70-30ish? TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Tediz247 | Posted 7/5/2006 2:34:22 PM | message detail |
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Metroid shouldn't fall below 70%, unless Kirby has one hell of a push from here to the end. --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/5/2006 2:36:15 PM | message detail |
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I dunno but this match sure is boring. We need a close match soon >_> SH/FE, hurry up! --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 2:36:55 PM | message detail |
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I'm rootin' for Kirby to get to 30%, but I'm thinkin' it won't go past
29.6%. Kirby did push Bowser until the very end of the match
though...but, then again, Bowser has never
won the night vote either, even against Solid Snake, and I also think
the favoring of the SSB/M fanbase played a part in that... ...so we'll see. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/5/2006 2:38:19 PM | message detail |
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You don't make love to hookers, you snort cocaine off of them like EC says. By the way EC, tell your mom I'm quitting my addiction and won't be needing her anymore. Come on dude.... she really needs that cash. --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/5/2006 2:42:20 PM | message detail |
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Okay, so maybe DK is justified to boost that much, what with Donkey
Konga, the DKC2 port, and the Nintendo Boost. The picture for CATS and
the third SC game (when Samus beat the he-holy hell out of Fisher after
the second SC released) boosting both of them though, that much,
proportionately, as well as DK and MC? Nope, I'll stay with Master
Chief/Halo being an oddity instead. But...but...Sam SFF! That's a much more realistic proposition than the Fourth of July Factor boosting Sam up in 2k3. >_> --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 2:43:48 PM | message detail |
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She's already got enough cash from me to put you through college, what else do you want?! --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/5/2006 2:46:01 PM | message detail |
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It's going down about .01% per update. 12 updates in an hour, 6 hours to go. Unless it slows down a bit. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/5/2006 2:47:20 PM | message detail |
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A car. >_> --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 2:47:56 PM | message detail |
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It shouldn't be picking up much, at least -- last night was rough to
it, and the day-vote's been goin' on for afew hours now anyway. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Anal Storage | Posted 7/5/2006 2:48:01 PM | message detail |
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But...but...Sam SFF! That's a much more realistic proposition than the Fourth of July Factor boosting Sam up in 2k3. >_> DAMN THE PATRIOTS! --- Explicit Content I used to be Asian, but I didn't get good enough grades so my parents beat it out of me. - snalien |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 2:49:11 PM | message detail |
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****, you just got me laughing now, twice. Here's your car...now tell her she's got another night left in her and to get over here. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Kaxon | Posted 7/5/2006 3:00:53 PM | message detail |
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Feedback - Review Message I have a question or concern about a GameFAQs contest. Message From Kaxon at 2006-07-05 16:56:22 Your poll results pages do not appear to be displaying the final results from each poll. As you know, the poll results page is updated every 5 minutes, but it appears that the last time they get updated is 8:55pm on the day of the poll, so they never reflect the last five minutes of voting. These polls are showing the results from 8:55pm on the day of the poll: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2425 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2426 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2427 You can verify this by looking at the record of the five minute updates: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2425 http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2426 http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2427 Thanks for your help. Message From GameFAQs at 2006-07-05 21:15:32 Good point; one that will require a little investigation. Will look into it, and will make sure it's not an issue in any close contests. --- Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 |
| CountCrazy007 | Posted 7/5/2006 3:27:53 PM | message detail |
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Good job, Kaxon. --- 4th Place of the Fall 2005 10-Year Anniversary Contest SC2k6 Noms: Captain Falcon, Seifer, Tails, Sub Zero, Nightmare, Tron Bonne, Ramza |