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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 301
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| MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/5/2006 12:08:08 AM | message detail |
| NPD doesn't count Wal-Mart so it isin't accurate. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 12:11:31 AM | message detail |
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NPD estimates numbers from Wal-Mart based upon the numbers they have
seen from various other retailers. They're numbers are not 100%
accurate, but they're the best source for numbers. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| voltch | Posted 7/5/2006 12:40:00 AM | message detail |
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so how big is mega man in america? i know rockman is big in japan but no one's heard of i in europe since round here everyone buys EA/GTA/Halo and that's it. --- Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft. BrentfordFC-championship here we come |
| jonthomson | Posted 7/5/2006 2:21:29 AM | message detail |
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Very nice to see Metroid owning, as it should be --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| Gooper Blooper | Posted 7/5/2006 2:53:12 AM | message detail |
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tag --- People are going to buy two machines. They're going to buy an Xbox and they're going to buy a Wii... for the price of one PS3. - Peter Moore |
| creativename | Posted 7/5/2006 3:46:49 AM | message detail |
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NPD can shut down a site if they found their data was being made
public. You have to pay to get NPD numbers, and those numbers are
usually leaked by people onto forums. A person got into trouble doing
that a while back, and there was another Japanese site that got shut
down for using NPD data. As I said, factual data is not copyrightable. That is simply the law. I don't know about what situation you're talking about, but obviously there was something else involved. Any words quoted would be copyrightable. A scan or something like that would also be illegal. (and I just noticed you said Japanese site, obviously the law could be different there) NPD could always threaten of course even if they don't have a legal leg to stand on, and people might give in. But there's nothing they can actually do here other then make noise, or try to find who the subscriber is and cancel their subscription. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Starion | Posted 7/5/2006 4:15:46 AM | message detail |
| Basically, someone obtained a list of US sales data for PS1,N64 games (possibly Xbox and PS2 as well) and posted it on the internet. It wasn't the typical list you see in gaming sites either. The list covered everything from the most popular to the most obscure games during that era and it listed the exact number of copies sold right down to the ones digit. |
| Heroic Viktor | Posted 7/5/2006 5:20:15 AM | message detail |
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Yep, this qualifies as a certifiable beating. I was expecting a
doubling, and Metroid will keep Kirby under 30%. At least next division
should have a couple matches under 60/40, maybe even three of them?
Come on Soul Calibur... you got 54% against KH, you can keep 40.01%
against MG! --- RIP - Tnote827 (4/4/05) |
| EclecticCowbell | Posted 7/5/2006 8:12:27 AM | message detail |
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For everyone saying that Mega Man isn't that widespread, I'd bet my
left nut more people have played a Mega Man game than a Metal Gear
Solid game on GameFAQs. --- Explicit Content Cheer up Emo Kids. |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/5/2006 8:19:39 AM | message detail |
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For everyone saying that Mega Man isn't that widespread, I'd bet my
left nut more people have played a Mega Man game than a Metal Gear
Solid game on GameFAQs. Who's saying Mega Man isn't widespread? I'm just saying that everybody isn't as huge a fan of the series as some people here believe. It definitely has plenty of fans, but I'm betting that there are more fans of Mario Kart. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Phediuk | Posted 7/5/2006 8:45:57 AM | message detail |
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*COMPARISONS GAME- (1) Metal Gear vs. (8) Soul Calibur* Sales Soul Calibur II sold quite well, but aside from that, it's been a rather niche series. Every Metal Gear game from MGS on has had 1 million-plus sales. Advantage: Metal Gear Hype Metal Gear: People are always talking about it, since they just can't get enough of the MGS series' hammy, pretentious plot. MGS3: Subsistence doesn't hurt either. Soul Calibur: I heard barely anyone talking about Soul Calibur III. Its sales were quite a bit worse than SCII's, as well...that's what you get for making the game PS2-exclusive and not including Link, Namco. :/ Advantage: Metal Gear Number of Games Metal Gear: Metal Gear (NES, 1988) Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (MSX, 1990) Metal Gear Solid (PSX, 1998) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (PS2, 2001) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2, 2004) Spinoffs/ports- Metal Gear (MSX, 1987) Metal Gear (PC, 1988) Metal Gear (C64, 1988) Snake's Revenge (NES, 1990) Metal Gear Solid: Integral (PSX, 1999) Metal Gear Solid: VR Missions (PSX, 1999) Metal Gear Solid (PC, 2000) Metal Gear Solid (GBC, 2000) The Document of Metal Gear Solid 2 (PS2, 2002) Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance (Xbox, 2002) Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance (PS2, 2003) Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance (PC, 2003) Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (GC, 2004) Metal Gear (Mobile, 2004) Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (Mobile, 2004) Metal Gear Acid (PSP, 2005) Metal Gear Acid 2 (PSP, 2006) Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence (PS2, 2006) Total- 23 -- Soul Calibur: Main series- Soul Edge (Arcade, 1995) Soul Calibur (DC, 1999) Soul Calibur II (GC, 2003) Soul Calibur III (PS2, 2005) (I chose the GC version of SCII as the "main" version because it sold the most.) Spinoffs/ports- Soul Blade (PSX, 1996) Soul Calibur (Arcade, 1998) Soul Calibur II (Arcade, 2002) Soul Calibur II (PS2, 2003) Soul Calibur II (Xbox, 2003) Soul Calibur III (Arcade, 2006) Total- 10 Advantage: Metal Gear GameFAQs Status Number of FAQs: Metal Gear: Metal Gear- 11 Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake- 7 Metal Gear Solid- 39 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty- 50 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater- 41 Total- 148 Soul Calibur: Soul Edge- 11 Soul Calibur- 53 Soul Calibur II- 70 Soul Calibur III- 38 Total- 172 Advantage: Soul Calibur |
| Phediuk | Posted 7/5/2006 8:46:16 AM | message detail |
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Average review score/Number of reviews: Metal Gear: Metal Gear- 8.14 (28) Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake- 9.65 (17) Metal Gear Solid- 8.98 (64) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty- 8.79 (62) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater- 9.48 (77) Series average- 9.01 (248) Soul Calibur: Soul Edge- 7.00 (2) Soul Calibur- 9.41 (37) Soul Calibur II- 9.51 (57) Soul Calibur III- 8.24 (54) Series average- 8.54 (150) Advantage: Metal Gear/Metal Gear Board activity: Soul Calibur isn't even in the top 10 Dreamcast boards. All of the MGS games have a decent amount of activity going on, though. Advantage: Metal Gear Board Odds Project Match prediction: Metal Gear- 133 Soul Calibur- 2 This match proves that at least 2 zero brackets were accepted into the BOP. Advantage: Metal Gear Point value: Metal Gear- 795 Soul Calibur- 10 Mm hmm. Advantage: Metal Gear Previous contest representation Metal Gear: SC2002- Solid Snake (9th) SC2003- Solid Snake (8th) Raiden (59th) Sp2004- Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (18th) Metal Gear Solid (21st) Metal Gear (48th) SC2004- Solid Snake (11th) Liquid Snake (16th) Sp2005- Revolver Ocelot (5th) Liquid Snake (11th) SC2005- Solid Snake (8th) Revolver Ocelot (64th) Top 100- Metal Gear Solid (#8) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (#21) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (#41) Soul Calibur: Sp2004- Soul Calibur (15th) Top 100- Soul Calibur (#51) Advantage: Metal Gear Intangibles Soul Calibur's soul triumph (lolz see wut i did there) over Metal Gear is its number of FAQs. 'Nuff said. Advantage: Metal Gear Conclusion Make no mistake: Soul Calibur is stronger than Civilization, and Metal Gear is weaker than Zelda. Metal Gear will win decisively, but it won't be a total embarrassment like Zelda/Civ. 77% for MG. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 9:08:25 AM | message detail |
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So...since many of us would have taken Mario Kart over Metroid, how
many people think Mario Kart could match Metroid's performance today? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 7/5/2006 9:09:20 AM | message detail |
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Metroid looking like it's going to stay above 71%. Poor Kirby. And the closer this match comes, the more I think MG will win by. I originally saw MG/SC being somewhat close, but as more time passes, the gap widens. --- Moltar Status: Excited, the Contest is here at last! Metroid vs. Kirby - Bracket: Metroid - Vote: Kirby (3/3) |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/5/2006 9:11:00 AM | message detail |
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Nah, I still don't trust Metal Gear being a supreme powerhouse yet... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:12:10 AM | message detail |
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Hmm... 77% seems quite a bit high. After Mega Man X failed to finish with 73%, I'd be surprised if Metal Gear makes it 70/30. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 9:22:47 AM | message detail |
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MG's noticably stronger than MMX, but SC's goin' to be alot stronger
than Suikoden. I figure MG's taking 60%-65% tomorrow, depending on how
strong SC is. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Samurai7 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:23:38 AM | message detail |
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MG with less than 60% Book it! --- Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot? |
| DeepHyren12 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:38:16 AM | message detail |
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How do you guys account for SC being stronger than MG in the SPC2k4
x-stats? It's not like MGS2 got SFFed in any of those matches... --- "Patriotism is clearly the greatest danger to which civilization is at present exposed" --Bertrand Russell |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 9:40:56 AM | message detail |
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1) No, but MGS was. 2) SC was behind Starcraft. 3) All three MGS games outrank SC on the Top 100 List. 4) The MG series has been around longer and has seen more systems than SC. 5) Any of the three MGS games has more/bigger fanatics than any SC game. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/5/2006 9:41:56 AM | message detail |
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This match proves that at least 2 zero brackets were accepted into the BOP. Hey, don't blame me. The people on this board were gullible enough to basically force me into accepting one of these. --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| Kyle Bowen | Posted 7/5/2006 9:48:06 AM | message detail |
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29077369 Here you go Ulti. ^_^ KB |
| DeepHyren12 | Posted 7/5/2006 9:54:54 AM | message detail |
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"1) No, but MGS was." How was MGS SFFed? Aside from being on the same system, I can't see how FFT vs. MGS was SFF, or FFVII vs. MGS was SFF, and if any SSF went on in RE vs. MGS, it was to MGS' gain. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 7/5/2006 9:57:30 AM | message detail |
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Aside from being on the same system There you go. It's very similar to the same thing that seems to have occurred in Snake vs. Sora; when two characters or games share a console, there's bound to be a degree of fanbase overlap. I think the rationale for MGS's SFF comes from the fact that without taking it into consideration, MGS2 > MGS in the stats, which doesn't really make logical sense. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/5/2006 9:57:55 AM | message detail |
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MGS is definitely more popular than MGS2. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| jonthomson | Posted 7/5/2006 10:00:35 AM | message detail |
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Match 5 - Metal Gear vs. Soul Calibur Now we get to one of the more interesting divisions, but this isn't one of the more interesting matches in it. Metal Gear is an obvious favourite to win the whole division and then job to Zelda, whereas Soul Calibur... isn't. The favourite isn't listed as Solid, for what it's worth (can't see the NES game counting for much at all, even as a NES player it's not making me vote for it as I can't stand the game), as I doubt you'll find anyone that'd say that any results will be different whatever you call it. A solid (lol) string of recent games that are generally well liked as well as popular in the mainstream, now on multiple consoles as well, and the main character is now going to feature in SSBB, although that won't help the series. Soul Calibur? Ran KH close enough (I think I had SC in my bracket) but I don't think that counts for much right now. It's one of the more popular fighting series of recent times, but (SSB excepted) few people really care about fighters any more. Nobody's suggesting it'll be complete fodder, but nobody suggests it'll have a chance either. Bracket says: Metal Gear Favourites bracket says: Soul Calibur Vote says: Soul Calibur Prediction: Metal Gear with 71.37% Fun fact of the day: jonthomson cannot decide whether Ridley, Sephiroth (in 2004) or Vice City is his stupidest ever pick to win a division. He leans towards Sephiroth, as he had Sephy to win the whole shabang. He still has no idea why he thought beating Cloud and Link was at all possible. --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 10:01:06 AM | message detail |
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Then justify how MGS can make the Top Ten on that list and outrank MGS2
by thirty-three positions (and the list doesn't count anti-votes, which
only helps MGS2's cause), then talk about how Sephiroth beat Liquid
Snake worse than even any worst-case scenario we were able to make for
the match...think about those two, then look back and see the stats say
MGS only gets 44.13% on MGS2 and tell me it's correct. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 10:02:46 AM | message detail |
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Sephiroth-2004 was. Trust me. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| steve illumina | Posted 7/5/2006 10:16:03 AM | message detail |
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Respected and admired in seven continents...he is... Steve Illumina Back again is the Sage of Board 8...with my perfect bracket still intact at a solid 4-0...lets go for 8-0 shall we? Yes we shall...now onward to the Dr. Petrovich Division... (1) Metal Gear vs (8) Soul Calibur (4) Fire Emblem vs (5) Silent Hill (3) Castlevania vs (6) Halo (2) Kingdom Hearts vs (7) Harvest Moon Steve's Picks: Metal, Fire, Castle, Kingdom Fanboy Picks: Metal, Fire, Halo, Kingdom Its Not MK but its still damn good pick: Soul The movie sucked pick: Silent Hill Its not a series...yet pick: Halo HAHAHAHAHA ROTF! LMAO! Pick: Harvest Moon Now, onto the expert analysis, rich in content, satire, and preservatives! Metal Gear vs Soul Calibur: Now its time for your favorite Stats Thread Elite to get on his soapbox and vent. WHERE IS MORTAL KOMBAT? Every gamer knows the 2 most significant fighting game franchises ever are SF & MK. This snub is unforgivable...and Ceej is gonna have to answer to me...just as soon as he returns my phone calls. I take solace in the fact that when I win the Guru contest this summer...I shall force every entrant to nominate my bestest most favorite fighting game character ever...Princess Kitana! Anyway, Soul dont got a chance against noble nine rear-ender Solid Snake and his series. But how many of these noobs who grew up on MG Solid actually played through Metal Gear on the NES...and took out the Super Computer? Hmmm? 2% maybe? Good times... MK would have been a tougher opponent than Soul... Sorry Seung Mina and Voldo :) Fire Emblem vs Silent Hill: Get me a pillow...so I can sleep through this snoozefest. One is barely a series, the other is stale. And the movie was so-so. This match follows Steve's Contest Law #7G: An RPG will always defeat a non RPG in a boring filler match. So, since 2nd tier RPG's like this one take the cake here on this site when compared to non-RPG's, look for Fire to win comfortably, and for the talk of the day to be about... Castlevania vs Halo: Ah..the first close match...but it is predictable, and you dont need SFF, RFF, Extrapolation Reverse Negativity Amalgamisms or the Theory of Frogability to figure it out! This match will break the brackets of the kiddies who are counting on Halo and GTA to propel them to victory. A lot of them will be broken here...as FPS duet Halo will fall to a series with like what...30...40 games in it? A series that has no hate...is universally loved or at the very least is respected, even by Halo lovers. Halo fanbabies will cry when it falls...blaming Anti-Gates and Anti-Microsoft voting.... Yah right noobs. Like the "Love Your Linux" fan club and the "Red Hat Society" are preparing their members to make an anti-Microsoft stand here. One last thought here my loyal fans: if an amphibian can take out the hero of Halo, look at what the power of a collective series with the prestige of Castlevania will do to it. Go Sypha Belnades! Kingdom Hearts vs Harvest Moon: Alright...did the Future Farmers of America and the 4H Club lobby Ceej to get Harvest Moon a spot here or what??? I mean...come on! For all the pointless bracket slots filled by undeserving stuff over the years...Shenmue...Adventure...and the like. TO have Harvest Moon in a greatest game series contest with only 32 slots is inane and inept. When peeps talk about great game series they dont talk about Harvest Moon! They talk about stuff that aint here, like Mortal Kombat, Tekken, Secret of Mana, Contra, even lowly Tomb Raider. HARVEST MOON???? Bah... Kingdom Hearts will embarass it. Period. End of discussion. Final Note: It is so great that overrated Earthbound aint here. I am sure a lot of nitwits tried to call that 1 game a 'series' and get Ness in here... --- Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers! |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/5/2006 10:26:10 AM | message detail |
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Great analysis alright <_< --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Big Bob | Posted 7/5/2006 10:29:16 AM | message detail |
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I nominated HM not expecting it to get in. What a joy when I saw it! --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/ImBigBob/PokemonvsMetroid.jpg |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 10:29:30 AM | message detail |
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I just looked at halos seed... 0_o I think that, more then anything else, shows how much of an influence only posting the nomination sheet on this board had on the seeding and entrants that got in. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 10:31:23 AM | message detail |
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I nominated HM not expecting it to get in. What a joy when I saw it! I can't remember all I nominated, but I think I forgot HM. Good to see it in there at least, even if it is just another piece of "happy to be here" fodder. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 10:31:24 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, Halo as a 6-seed is pretty silly...but I'm alright with that --
its four-pack (and arguably eight-pack, though I disagree) is almost
perfect for it. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 10:37:33 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, Halo as a 6-seed is pretty silly...but I'm alright with that
-- its four-pack (and arguably eight-pack, though I disagree) is almost
perfect for it. True. It's not often that a contender gets placed so perfectly that it has three matches in a row (potentially, depending on when it gets eliminated of course) where there is serious debate going on regarding if it will win or lose. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/5/2006 11:34:16 AM | message detail |
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Final Note: It is so great that overrated Earthbound aint here. I am
sure a lot of nitwits tried to call that 1 game a 'series' and get Ness
in here... lol Mother series TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/5/2006 11:36:40 AM | message detail |
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Castlevania vs Halo: Ah..the first close match...but it is
predictable, and you dont need SFF, RFF, Extrapolation Reverse
Negativity Amalgamisms or the Theory of Frogability to figure it out!
This match will break the brackets of the kiddies who are counting on
Halo and GTA to propel them to victory. A lot of them will be broken
here...as FPS duet Halo will fall to a series with like what...30...40
games in it? A series that has no hate...is universally loved or at the
very least is respected, even by Halo lovers. Halo fanbabies will cry
when it falls...blaming Anti-Gates and Anti-Microsoft voting.... Yah
right noobs. Like the "Love Your Linux" fan club and the "Red Hat
Society" are preparing their members to make an anti-Microsoft stand
here. Once again, I have yet to see one solid reason for Castlevania winning other than "lawl halo is t3h suck!!!!!!!!!11 elitist gamerz attitude FTW!!!!!!!!1111111". This is a popularity contest, and a series as popular as Halo shouldn't have much trouble knocking out the stale and old Castlevania series. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| swirIdude | Posted 7/5/2006 11:51:27 AM | message detail |
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This is a popularity contest, and a series as popular as Halo shouldn't have much trouble knocking out the stale and old Castlevania series. I enjoy how you state your opinions as fact. --- Xbox 360 melts disks! And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/5/2006 11:52:26 AM | message detail |
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This is a popularity contest, and a game as popular as Halo shouldn't
have much trouble knocking out the stale and old Starcraft. >_> --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| transience | Posted 7/5/2006 11:53:51 AM | message detail |
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and as we all know, nobody cares about Castlevania on this site! --- xyzzy |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 12:43:27 PM | message detail |
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I don't expect halo to have any real issues with beating castlevania.
At the very most I think castlevania might take the lead during the
night, expecially since almost all of the night vote is concentrated in
the first part of the match now. But considering Halo's strong day vote
and weak night vote (well mc's at least), and castlevanias strong night
vote and weak day vote... we just might see the biggest turn around in
the results of a match ever. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 12:45:48 PM | message detail |
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One more thing. Why are people taking the top 100 games list so
seriously? Couldn't only registered users nominate games? If so,
wouldn't the results reflect seeding more then actual contest strength? --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Janus5000 | Posted 7/5/2006 12:45:52 PM | message detail |
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I remember people saying that alucard/MC would have the biggest turnaround ever if it happened. Funny how things work out. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/5/2006 12:50:11 PM | message detail |
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How was MGS SFFed? Aside from being on the same system, I can't see
how FFT vs. MGS was SFF, or FFVII vs. MGS was SFF, and if any SSF went
on in RE vs. MGS, it was to MGS' gain. Both Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy VII were huge games released within a year of each on the PlayStation. We have seen some weird FFVII/MGS matches in the past where thinks were grossly in favor of FFVII. Just looking at the stats shows you that MGS is below MGS2, which is so horribly wrong it hurts. There's no way MGS2 is more popular than MGS ... at all. Hell, I would think MGS2 is ranked third in the Metal Gear Solid games. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 12:52:43 PM | message detail |
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One more thing. Why are people taking the top 100 games list so
seriously? Couldn't only registered users nominate games? If so,
wouldn't the results reflect seeding more then actual contest strength? You seem to assume there is no correlation between the two. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/5/2006 12:54:36 PM | message detail |
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You can also look at OoT/Goldeneye for a similar case of SFF. And if it can happen to GE, why not MGS? --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 12:57:22 PM | message detail |
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You seem to assume there is no correlation between the two. There's some correlation, but not nearly enough to take it as being directly reflective of a games strength. A lot of factors come into play in a regular match that don't when you're nominating your favourite games, especially when only registered users are nominating said games. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2006 12:59:25 PM | message detail |
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There's also a difference between picking your top ten games and
picking your #1, #2, #3...through #10 -- although it's still just
registered members, among other flaws in that system, it's still the
most recent info we have outside of this contest and the GotY polls. It
also puts weight behind which games people like the most -- which is a flaw for the cult hits, sure -- but it helps give more of an overall ranking too. It's not god-awful like so many people say, yeesh. Besides, as KH said, there's usually a correlation between strength and seeding. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/5/2006 1:00:08 PM | message detail |
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Who the hell is taking it as directly reflective? It's a useful tool,
one that can be used to come to certain conclusions (i.e. MGS >
MGS2, even though it should have been bloody obvious). I seriously doubt people would use it to say Goldeneye, Metal Gear Solid, and Halo all >>>> Final Fantasy VI, though. |
| Phediuk | Posted 7/5/2006 1:00:49 PM | message detail |
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There's some correlation, but not nearly enough to take it as being directly reflective of a games strength. Last time I checked, the Top 6 of the Top 100 are exactly the same as the Top 6 in Sp2004's X-stats. I'd say that's pretty damn reflective of the games' strengths, but I guess that's just me. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |