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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 301
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| shinomori_kyo | Posted 7/4/2006 11:09:33 PM | message detail |
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So far, I'm a bit off. And, I can't change my entry... (stupid me picking Suikoden instead of Mega Man...) I have 2 out of three... |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/4/2006 11:10:07 PM | message detail |
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Who would win: Post-TP Ganondorf or Mega Man? I smiled. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/4/2006 11:11:10 PM | message detail |
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Mario Party wouldn't hold a candle to Mega Man -- Mario Kart will be
doing good enough to beat MM, and MP is sooooooooo much lower on the
Mario chain than MK. Honestly, Mario Party would be doing good to beat Fire Emblem. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:12:42 PM | message detail |
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As of a year or two ago, the Mega Man series had sold ~20 Million
copies. That's better than the Mario Party series, in case you didn't
know. Of course, that's counting all of its various iterations, but I
believe that even MM Classic alone beats out MP, at least in America. Uh, combining the endless stream of bimonthly released Mega Man games into a single total doesn't exactly create an accurate comparison. There are precious few Mega Man games that have broken a million copies, and THAT is what I am referring to. |
| transience | Posted 7/4/2006 11:13:25 PM | message detail |
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precious few? I don't think a single one has. --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:14:16 PM | message detail |
| The point is, Mario Party sells very well, but put it up against most things in this contest and it gets KABLAMMOED. Sales aren't a good indicator for how an untested series is going to do, and Mario Kart is about as untested as it gets. |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 11:14:57 PM | message detail |
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precious few? I don't think a single one has. Mega Man 2, 3, X, and 2 of the Battle Network Games I think. Could be more though. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/4/2006 11:16:44 PM | message detail |
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As of a year or two ago, the Mega Man series had sold ~20 Million copies. 24 million copies as of September 30th, 2005. Capcom's second highest selling franchise (tied with Street Fighter). It's behind Resident Evil at 28 million. Just to throw that out there. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| transience | Posted 7/4/2006 11:16:57 PM | message detail |
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http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php do a search for Mega Man. it's possible that it's incorrect, but I don't see one. --- xyzzy |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 11:18:29 PM | message detail |
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The point is, Mario Party sells very well, but put it up against
most things in this contest and it gets KABLAMMOED. Sales aren't a good
indicator for how an untested series is going to do, and Mario Kart is
about as untested as it gets. I'm not trying to use sales to confirm Mario Kart's popularity. From experience, Mario Kart is usually one of the biggest series on a Nintendo system after Mario and Zelda. Now you have to throw in Super Smash Bros. in front of it, but people are always anticipating the next Mario Kart game. It has become a Nintendo staple. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/4/2006 11:18:52 PM | message detail |
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precious few? I don't think a single one has. Four total. Mega Man 2 -- 1.5 million Mega Man Battle Network 4 -- 1.3 million Mega Man X -- 1.1 million Mega Man 3 -- 1.0 million --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/4/2006 11:19:16 PM | message detail |
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Mario Kart has sold lots of games, sure, but what I think is in its
favor the most is that there's been a big game from the MK series on
every system it's touched (with MK:SC being the smallest). Furthermore,
SMK started this off on the last system Mega Man was big on, and it
feels like MM has died off while MK has picked up since then. Throw in
that I would take Mario Kart 64 over any Mega Man game, and...well,
there you have my thoughts. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 11:20:05 PM | message detail |
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http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=Megaman&console=&publisher=&sort=Total They don't separate Mega and Man. It's never sold a million copies in America, but worldwide there are a few games that hit a million. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/4/2006 11:20:44 PM | message detail |
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Sales never has or will translate into direct popularity on GameFAQs. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:20:53 PM | message detail |
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People are always expecting the next Mario Kart game? Really? Wow. In
my experience that's never been the case...they usually come and go
with relatively little fanfare. I hardly remember any hype for Double
Dash at all. Mind you, the series CAN have huge strength, I just don't see where it's going to come from. |
| transience | Posted 7/4/2006 11:20:59 PM | message detail |
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ahh, no wonder I could never find it! --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:22:01 PM | message detail |
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Let's all laugh at tranny now! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| transience | Posted 7/4/2006 11:23:39 PM | message detail |
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Mario Kart games usually come pretty early and are a pretty big title.
I remember the MK title for GBA being the most anticipated title at the
system's launch. MKDS was probably the strongest DS game until NSMB
came out. MK64 was one of the five or six must-have titles on the N64.
I'd say that people anticipate them quite a bit. --- xyzzy |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 11:25:42 PM | message detail |
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People are always expecting the next Mario Kart game? Really? Wow.
In my experience that's never been the case...they usually come and go
with relatively little fanfare. I hardly remember any hype for Double
Dash at all. They do. When it first came out, it was like "Wow! A Mario racing game!" Instant phenomenon. With the N64, the hits were being released one at a time. After Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64 was the next big Nintendo release. It's considered the most popular for a reason. It was all people really had between SM64 and OoT (Goldeneye and Star Fox 64 nonwithstanding). Super Circuit was anticipated as well, as Mario Kart was now available on a handheld system! Of course the game itself underwhelmed, but the anticipation was there. It was the same for Double Dash. People were waiting on Mario Kart to hit the Cube. But it just got mixed reviews. It picked up for the DS though. That whole Mario DS thing on this board wasn't a fad. It really was that popular a game on the DS. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Lopen | Posted 7/4/2006 11:26:46 PM | message detail |
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I love you for giving me that site, Tranny. Now I don't need to ask HM
every time I want to know the sales of some game! Magnificent! --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| transience | Posted 7/4/2006 11:27:23 PM | message detail |
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well, it's only useful with big titles. when I want to know info on some obscure game no one's ever heard of, it's of no help! --- xyzzy |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 11:27:56 PM | message detail |
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I love you for giving me that site, Tranny. Now I don't need to ask
HM every time I want to know the sales of some game! Magnificent! Mac Arrowny has been posting it in this topic for quite a while now. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:29:42 PM | message detail |
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well, it's only useful with big titles. when I want to know info on some obscure game no one's ever heard of, it's of no help! like shadow hearts lol mirite hay don't get angry now |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/4/2006 11:29:45 PM | message detail |
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I'm the one who blessed this board with that link! Heathens!!!! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Lopen | Posted 7/4/2006 11:30:07 PM | message detail |
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Well I'm going to be perfectly honest... I don't read every post in here. It's horrible and I should fix that, I know. Not to imply I avoid Mac's posts... but he's probably just had bad timing with my reading areas. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| transience | Posted 7/4/2006 11:30:54 PM | message detail |
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speaking of which, I'm still waiting for those SH3 sales numbers, HM !! Mumei gave me the everythingandnothing link some time ago, so credit goes to him. (and not HM!) --- xyzzy |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/4/2006 11:30:56 PM | message detail |
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Mario Kart is a big series like that, yeah. It's a great party series,
good for filling in between Nintendo's OTHER biggest releases, and it's
had success in some form every release. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/4/2006 11:33:18 PM | message detail |
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It is indeed quite useful. The American charts also have some pretty
cool info, particularly on Nintendo games. All of the Fire Emblem games
are on there (sales for every single month of release!), but many other
games are missing, which has led to my arguments for Silent Hill's
massive cultness being fairly vague. And yes, I know that sales are pretty much irrelevant. But they do make some difference. Of course, you have to look at it case by case (no amount of sales is going to help Mario Party, but Suikoden 6 selling 10 million copies would make a big difference). --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:34:06 PM | message detail |
| I'm still having trouble seeing people actually PREFER it to Mega Man, though...yeah, I know we're going around in circles. But it beats talking about, uh...Metal Gear/Soul Calibur! |
| transience | Posted 7/4/2006 11:35:21 PM | message detail |
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I find sales to be useful only for obscure games like RPGs - a game
that's sold 50,000 copies probably isn't going to be winning too many
matches, but 400,000 is more than enough on here. once you break a
million or so, I think enough people have played your game that bigger
numbers don't really matter. --- xyzzy |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/4/2006 11:36:15 PM | message detail |
| MK series has over 34 million worldwide (x)_(x) |
| creativename | Posted 7/4/2006 11:36:21 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man games have sold over 20 million? I had no idea. Had no idea Resident Evil games had sold that much either. And a huge THANK YOU!!! to transcience for sharing that site! That's a wonderful amount of information. I've been looking for info on hardware/software sales ratios for well over a decade. That site finally allowed me to get them. I nominate transcience for most useful post of the year :-) --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/4/2006 11:37:54 PM | message detail |
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But it beats talking about, uh...Metal Gear/Soul Calibur! METAL GEAR WITH A DOUBLING! GOGOGO! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| transience | Posted 7/4/2006 11:37:54 PM | message detail |
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my apologies for all the pop-ups you have to endure! --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:38:05 PM | message detail |
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Everybody gets credit! Except for KH, who for all you know created the site. KH never gets any credit... ;_; |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:38:44 PM | message detail |
| Screw that, I just won three new XBox 360s. So long suckahs! |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/4/2006 11:39:14 PM | message detail |
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2 PS2 2 XB 1 GBA Top 5 All Time Games this Gen in America Not bad >_> --- Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/4/2006 11:43:31 PM | message detail |
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I know the guy who created that site. His name is not KH! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Eggplant Lord | Posted 7/4/2006 11:44:17 PM | message detail |
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This is a very important element of the MM vs. MK match: MK's seeding.
SSB always had high seeds. MK won't be too similar. Even though it has
been released on several systems, and it's "not a standard racing game,
which people would hate," and it is a successful franchise sales-wise,
it's frankly not popular enough to get a high seed. I understand
seeding is a poor way to judge matches, but SSB mirrors Mario Kart so
well, so its significantly higher seed should mean Mario Kart is
proportionally weaker. /// *Stares at FFVA game info with bloodshot eyes* Release date... Coming... |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:44:32 PM | message detail |
| As far as you know! |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/4/2006 11:45:04 PM | message detail |
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Dun dun dun. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 11:45:51 PM | message detail |
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I hope you honestly aren't looking at seeds to determine popularity,
especially with the vast majority of nominations for this contest being
done on the boards... Or have you not noticed the Shadow Hearts,
Suikodens, and Star Oceans in a contest about the BEST. SERIES. EVER.? --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Starion | Posted 7/4/2006 11:46:06 PM | message detail |
| I hope that site is legitimate. It would be a shame if NPD shuts it down. |
| creativename | Posted 7/4/2006 11:46:55 PM | message detail |
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Factual data is not copyrightable. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Draco1214 | Posted 7/4/2006 11:48:00 PM | message detail |
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I don't know if this has been discussed before but... FACT or FICTION: Mega Man will beat Mario Kart because the voters will equate the title "Mega Man" with all of the Mega Man games (extending to the Battle Network series, etc.) --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Currently Playing - Suikoden V, Capcom vs. SNK 2 |
| transience | Posted 7/4/2006 11:49:28 PM | message detail |
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man, I can't wait for MM/MK. all this speculation needs to finally end. soon! --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:51:09 PM | message detail |
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I know *I* will, and I've typically thought the voters will. At any
rate, even if I had already seen X in the contest and didn't take it
into account when seeing "Mega Man" I would still take select other
spinoffs into account...like Mega Man Legends (which is why I'd vote it
over most things <.<). If we see something like Mega Man (Classic) though, that would certainly diminish the chances by a helluva lot. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/4/2006 11:51:57 PM | message detail |
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Factual data is not copyrightable. NPD can shut down a site if they found their data was being made public. You have to pay to get NPD numbers, and those numbers are usually leaked by people onto forums. A person got into trouble doing that a while back, and there was another Japanese site that got shut down for using NPD data. On the bright side, the data does not line up exactly with NPD's, so he's in the clear there. The site has the potential to become a Game Trailers or Game Videos, but with that popularity comes the attention of NPD. So it's always a stick situation ... --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 12:05:22 AM | message detail |
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I just got here to see the results. I guess this sort of shuts down any
sort of debate about pokemon magically gaining the strength to beat
metroid. Not that there was much before, but a few people were
discussing such a possibility, which seems even more impossible now
then before. Unless you think that star ocean is strong enough to
comfortably win a match against kirby... --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 7/5/2006 12:07:41 AM | message detail |
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How does NPD get accurate numbers anyways? I thought that wal-mart kept
their databases private, and I'd wager that they take up a decent
portion of the market when it comes to stores selling games. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |