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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 301
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| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/4/2006 10:20:43 PM | message detail |
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Reception Mario Kart: Super Circuit was extremely well received by the press and public alike. Those frustrated with Nintendo's policy of remaking older games for the GBA were pleasantly surprised that not only had Nintendo released a brand new Mario Kart game, but that most of the courses from Super Mario Kart had been included instead of being released as a separate port. --- Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 10:20:43 PM | message detail |
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I thought we attributed Link's gains to both the Zelda Collection
and a general percentage increase of Nintendo fans which caused the
Nintendo boost. I really don't buy that Zelda collector's edition thing too much. With as big as the LoZ series is, most of the Nintendo fans were probably fans of Link already. I wouldn't even think of saying a Mario collection coming with the Nintendo would introduce new fans to Mario. They are already as big as you can get. I think that Link 2k4 was a special case in that Twilight Princess was probably one of the biggest game announcements I've ever seen. It was the trailer heard 'round the world. And it was big because you no longer had the Celda look that a lot of people loathed. It was the return of Link in his badass form that people came to love in OoT. So when they saw that version of Link represented in the game contest, I think it had a little effect. But again, that's a special case. I wouldn't buy MGS4 making Snake more popular right now, or Mario Galaxy making Mario more popular, or anything like that. There was just a big turnaround from WW. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/4/2006 10:21:54 PM | message detail |
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Nothing from Pokemon/Star Ocean made any all-time top tens, though the
prediction percentage of 83.74% has now appeared thrice. Zero/Sonic and
Vercetti/Kite from Summer 2003 were also pegged by 83.74%. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:22:39 PM | message detail |
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I thought mnm said we wouldn't have to wait until 2k7 to see a rise in Snake's popularity! HEY EVERYONE! MNM'S JUST A BIG FAT PHONY |
| NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:23:28 PM | message detail |
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Isnt Mario Kart DS pretty well liked? --- Where am I? |
| swirIdude | Posted 7/4/2006 10:25:44 PM | message detail |
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MKDS is the best in the series good sir! --- Xbox 360 melts disks! And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/4/2006 10:26:21 PM | message detail |
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MK64 > MK:DS = SMK > MK:SC > MK:DD Sir. --- Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/4/2006 10:27:43 PM | message detail |
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Why Mario Kart? Huh? Why does it have to be so infallibly strong,
and Mega Man the one we have to doubt? It couldn't be that Board 8 is
overhyping and overrating yet another side Nintendo series, could it??? I personally have no idea what to expect from this match. I've yet to see a solid argument supporting either side, and I went with Mega Man based solely on the fact that voters will probably see Mega Man as all-encompassing. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 10:28:30 PM | message detail |
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I also want to know where the supposed MASSIVE popularity for Mario
Kart games come from. You know, the one with the good Super Mario Kart,
the fan-favorite Mario Kart 64, the mixed bag Double Dash, the awful
Super Circuit, and the borderline B8 fad game DS. That's a total of ONE
game that I can get behind for the strength of the series (I won't be
swayed by handheld games not named Pokemon). Widespread popularity. Mario Kart has been a big release on almost every Nintendo system, and 3 out of the 5 were well-received. Double Dash is mixed bag, but that's only among people that are already Mario Kart fans, so I don't think that game will make much different. The biggest thing about Mario Kart is its overall widespread popularity. Mostly everyone has played it at some point in their lives, and a good majority of those like it. I don't know that many people that don't like Mario Kart in some way or form. There are a lot of fans of Mega Man games, but there are also plenty of people that don't care for the games. Mario Kart DS was more than a "Board 8" fad by the way. There was a reason why it was easily the DS game of the year and beat God of War in that final poll. It's the best Mario Kart game in the series to me, and the online play was a big addition to it. So what does it have over Mega Man, aside from one game (the only thing I wouldn't take a Mega Man game over)? Sales? Yeah, so does Mario Party, and the first person to tell me MP > MM gets another wallop with the chump stick. Past contest appearances -- yeah. The only thing it has on the Top 100 List is Super Mario Kart (although I don't think MK64 was on the drop-down list) and Sonic 2 beats it out with absolute ease. I wouldn't look at the list as a source of strength for the Mario Kart games. It's not the type of game that will make a lot of Top Ten lists. It's strength will come from its widespread popularity. Mega Man definitely has a more concentrated fanbase, but I don't think it is as large on this site. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/4/2006 10:29:11 PM | message detail |
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voters will probably see Mega Man as all-encompassing. I wouldn't count on it; everyone seems to know this is a series contest now, and clearly at least 100k people now know there's a clear difference between these two series. But I'm still confident in MM winning here. --- * Is Dranze * |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/4/2006 10:29:45 PM | message detail |
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And MK:DS was pretty well liked. It was THE game to own on the DS for quite some time. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:30:44 PM | message detail |
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I was about to respond you point-for-point, but instead...are you
trying to say the Mega Man series DOESN'T have widespread playership??? THEN WHY DO PEOPLE VOTE FOR HIM? THE ART? |
| NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:30:59 PM | message detail |
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Until NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. --- Where am I? |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/4/2006 10:33:06 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't count on it; everyone seems to know this is a series
contest now, and clearly at least 100k people now know there's a clear
difference between these two series. But I'm still confident in MM
winning here. MMX fans are likely MM fans anyways. Like I said in the last topic, I can't see MMX and MM being that different strength wise. But MM will have the added benefit of Zero series fans and the other new series. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 10:33:53 PM | message detail |
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I was about to respond you point-for-point, but instead...are you
trying to say the Mega Man series DOESN'T have widespread playership??? THEN WHY DO PEOPLE VOTE FOR HIM? THE ART? As much as Mario Kart? Come on. There are still a lot of people who aren't fans of Mega Man games. I'm not calling it niche or anything, but Mario Kart does have more widespread popularity. I mean, think about the people who've started gaming in the 32/64-bit era or later. Which do you think that those people have played more? --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/4/2006 10:34:14 PM | message detail |
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Heh, I have to ask since Mario Party was brought up: of the games in the bracket, which series would MP beat? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:34:15 PM | message detail |
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Oh wait, I'm just blind. The biggest thing about Mario Kart is its overall widespread popularity. Mostly everyone has played it at some point in their lives, and a good majority of those like it. I don't know that many people that don't like Mario Kart in some way or form. There are a lot of fans of Mega Man games, but there are also plenty of people that don't care for the games. You do realize that in terms of "Least Favorite Genre", racing comes up a TON with people. Yeah, there are people that don't like both sets of games, anything that isn't abnormal like Pokemon is likely anecdotal evidence. I mean, there are a ton of people for whom Metal Gear isn't their cup of tea, but I'd still take it over Mario Kart in a heartbeat. They both have playership, but what makes you think Mega Man isn't preferred? |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 7/4/2006 10:34:30 PM | message detail |
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Question for you guys. Who would win: Post-TP Ganondorf or Mega Man? --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune ^5 SOWL IMHO - Explicit Content |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 10:34:31 PM | message detail |
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MMX fans are likely MM fans anyways. No. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 10:35:34 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man. Ganon is being overrated to hell and back damnit. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:35:53 PM | message detail |
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Who would win: Post-TP Ganondorf or Mega Man? Are...you...serious? Mega Man SFFs the leech. It's not even close. Snake is Ganon's ONLY shot in terms of the Noble Nine. And his time slot is closing fast. |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 10:36:02 PM | message detail |
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You do realize that in terms of "Least Favorite Genre", racing comes up a TON with people Mario Kart isn't your typical racing game though... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| transience | Posted 7/4/2006 10:36:30 PM | message detail |
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yeah, just look at MM/Yoshi. MM probably could beat Ganon worse than Samus did. I've always wanted to see Samus/MM. --- xyzzy |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 10:37:14 PM | message detail |
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I reiterate...Ganondorf is ****ing overrated, even with a TP boost. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:37:28 PM | message detail |
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I mean, think about the people who've started gaming in the 32/64-bit era or later. This is GameFAQs, and we strangely enough seem to appeal ot a much more old-school crowd. Put up a poll asking if you've played ANY Mega Man game, and I'm sure you'll get a ridiculously high percentage. Same for Sonic games. They're well-played and well-liked, and we're all old enough to remember them. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/4/2006 10:38:26 PM | message detail |
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Heh, I have to ask since Mario Party was brought up: of the games in the bracket, which series would MP beat? Hmm.. let's see... Madden NFL Suikoden Star Ocean The last two I may have to think about, though. --- * Is Dranze * |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 10:38:26 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man games are almost talked about in equations here as much as FF games are, and THATS saying something. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:40:01 PM | message detail |
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Seriously I dont understand how people think Ganondorf is that much
overrated. Do people seriously belive Bowser is that much stronger than
him? --- Where am I? |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 10:40:53 PM | message detail |
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This is GameFAQs, and we strangely enough seem to appeal ot a much
more old-school crowd. Put up a poll asking if you've played ANY Mega
Man game, and I'm sure you'll get a ridiculously high percentage. Same
for Sonic games. They're well-played and well-liked, and we're all old
enough to remember them. There's a large old school fanbase as well as a number of people who started with the 32-64 bit era. I'm sure they probably have went back and played some Mega Man games, but I have no doubt that Mario Kart is probably a bigger series to those gamers. Mega Man really hasn't done much since the SNES days as far as games are concerned. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/4/2006 10:41:12 PM | message detail |
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From therealmnm Posted 7/5/2006 1:34:31 AM MMX fans are likely MM fans anyways. No. No? If anything, one would think the original would be stronger if nothing else. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 10:44:34 PM | message detail |
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Hell, you know, what if the Mega Man's game strength is almost good
enough to give FF a friggin run for its money? No one, I mean no one,
would see that coming. One could actually make a case that Mega Man as
a series could have a more unified fanbase than Final Fantasy for all
we know. Its not probable, but the upset is somewhat plausible. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:46:00 PM | message detail |
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There's a large old school fanbase as well as a number of people who
started with the 32-64 bit era. I'm sure they probably have went back
and played some Mega Man games, but I have no doubt that Mario Kart is
probably a bigger series to those gamers. I'm sure they're there, but I'm not convinced that they'll be enough to matter. We're talking about a site where the playership of the original Legend of Zelda is phenomenally high -- good gravy, even playership of the original METAL GEAR is startling. By and large, we're a bunch of people who still remember the good ol' days while we play the new. Sonic and Mega Man hold a much closer place in our hearts than Mario Kart. And I'm not convinced there are enough 'kiddies' to turn the tide. Mega Man really hasn't done much since the SNES days as far as games are concerned. I still say SNES beats out any other system on this site with an unparalleled ease. Don't underestimate it. |
| NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:47:02 PM | message detail |
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No it isnt at all. Even if it is unified. FFVII > The Unified Sum of
Mega Man. A diverse fanbase INCREASES a series strength. --- Where am I? |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 10:47:09 PM | message detail |
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I still say SNES beats out any other system on this site with an unparalleled ease. Don't underestimate it. Which is another good reason for my theory. Most Mega Man games, X and classic, appear on SNES. Final Fantasy is throughly divided. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 10:47:20 PM | message detail |
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I'm not saying that Mega Man doesn't have a fanbase on
this site. I simply don't think his games are as popular as Mario Kart
overall. Close, but I still take Mario Kart. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 10:48:26 PM | message detail |
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Not necessarly, because what if one person hates I dunno, FF8? Wouldn't
that backlash on it, or would they be just like "welp, I like FF7 or
FFX, so I'll still vote for it lolz" Probably...but damnit I wish it were otherwise <_< --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:49:05 PM | message detail |
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I hate FFVIII. One of my least favorite games. I still will vote FF
over almost anything because I love FFVI and FFIV and FFVII so much. --- Where am I? |
| psychomonkey62 | Posted 7/4/2006 10:49:28 PM | message detail |
| I put Pokemon to win against Metroid? DAMMIT! |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 10:49:42 PM | message detail |
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Heh, I see its the latter then. Oh well, just throwing stuff out there. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/4/2006 10:51:47 PM | message detail |
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A note on Mario Kart vs. Mario Party: http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=mario+kart&console=&publisher=&sort=Total http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=mario+party&console=&publisher=&sort=Total There's a big difference in the sales of the two series, and MP's are far more concentrated in Japan. Also: Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, and Mario Kart DS would beat any Mega Man game. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:52:18 PM | message detail |
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*sigh* I guess I never could get that whole "a game is only as strong
as its strongest entrant" thing. I seriously doubt most people would be
fathoming taking Mario Kart over Mega Man if it had a 'Super Metroid'
type game to its credit. It's almost as if Mega Man having more games
hurts it in some people's eyes. I really think it'll be strong, strong enough to beat Mario Kart without a doubt. But maybe it'll be as weak as Star Ocean! And we'll all laugh about that crazy KH...all the way to the bank... ...yeah, I'm done. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:56:07 PM | message detail |
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A note on Mario Kart vs. Mario Party: http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=mario+kart&console=&publisher=&sort=Total http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=mario+party&console=&publisher=&sort=Total There's a big difference in the sales of the two series, and MP's are far more concentrated in Japan. Missing the point EN-FREAKING-TIRELY. The point is that the Mario Party games sell better than Mega Man games, just like the Mario Kart games do. If you would take Mario Party over Mega Man, you're a damn fool. Also: Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, and Mario Kart DS would beat any Mega Man game. lol that hasn't been addressed at all |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 10:57:45 PM | message detail |
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KH, I simply think you're underestimating the strength of Mario Kart. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 10:58:27 PM | message detail |
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KH should address the stuff I threw out there >_> --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/4/2006 10:59:53 PM | message detail |
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If 2006 contest happens around the time Twilight Princess comes out, give me Ganon over Snake any day of the week. If we're getting into November and we're not even finished with the divisions yet, we have a major problem with the scheduling. I'm quite confident that Twilight Princess won't have an effect on anything except maybe the final. Ganon's one chance to beat Snake is this year -- and it's unlikely even then. After that, he can kiss that goodbye. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:00:32 PM | message detail |
| I may. It doesn't help that we have precious little polls to work with...the best thing we have is MK DS's performance in the GotY polls, and there's no way I bet against MM based on a handheld game. When push comes to shove, GameFAQs just doesn't care about 'em. They'll bring the influx of Nintendo voters, but I'm thinking they'll vote for their favored Nintendo series...Mega Man. <.< |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 11:01:26 PM | message detail |
| It's all about KH, isn't it? I'm just too popular for my own good! |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/4/2006 11:07:55 PM | message detail |
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Missing the point EN-FREAKING-TIRELY. The point is that the Mario
Party games sell better than Mega Man games, just like the Mario Kart
games do. As of a year or two ago, the Mega Man series had sold ~20 Million copies. That's better than the Mario Party series, in case you didn't know. Of course, that's counting all of its various iterations, but I believe that even MM Classic alone beats out MP, at least in America. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 11:08:14 PM | message detail |
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Its cause the only other guys on right now are me, mnm and HM, and I
don't get any damn credibility as a Stats guy, despite making it on the
leaderboard in a high position in a couple contests >_> and HM
well....Star Ocean screwed him over :( and MNM kills people. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/4/2006 11:08:23 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't buy MGS4 making Snake more popular right now, It won't be big, but I'm willing to bet he gets a slight boost this year. That MGS4 trailer was still a huge part of E3 this year. Hell, Konami had to delay releasing the trailer to the public because their website was getting absolutely hammered with people constantly refreshing. Hey, there's MGS3:Subsistence! << There are still a lot of people who aren't fans of Mega Man games. Same holds true for almost every franchise in this contest. There are people who just don't click with things, but Mega Man is likely on the bottom of that barrel. It's in the same genre as Mario for crying out loud. There is a ton of people who like Mega Man games here and they generally hold them highly. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |