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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/4/2006 9:22:27 PM | message detail
Metroid is owning =p



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/top10_100.html



!yawa tsoP
longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 9:22:48 PM | message detail
Hell yeah its owning. Although I did vote for Kirby lolz
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Slowflake | Posted 7/4/2006 9:22:49 PM | message detail
The last Metroid is KICKING ASS AND TAKING NAMES
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/4/2006 9:23:29 PM | message detail
I was actually about to lay dibs on making this topic. Fair enough...

...and yes, Metroid is laying waste.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:24:07 PM | message detail
*tag*
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XxSoulxX | Posted 7/4/2006 9:24:15 PM | message detail
Knuckles > Metroid.
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cyko | Posted 7/4/2006 9:25:05 PM | message detail
Mario Kart > Megaman > Sonic

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Big Bob | Posted 7/4/2006 9:25:43 PM | message detail
I stand by Metroid > Pokemon > Kirby.

In the Xstats, anyway.
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plasmabeam | Posted 7/4/2006 9:26:12 PM | message detail
Metroid >>> Kirby > Pokemon

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/4/2006 9:27:16 PM | message detail
My Oracle pick of 69.69% aint looking too shabby at this point. And here I was thinking it was off the wall.

And I suppose this is as good a time as any to whore out my Analysis topic:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29013865

Keep in mind this is a really n00blar attempt, so don't blame me if I'm incredibly wrong a few times, or have crappy writeups.


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creativename | Posted 7/4/2006 9:47:57 PM | message detail
Heh. BGII took me five years to finish

Yes...but was it the only non-multiplayer game you beat during that whole time? Didn't think so.

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creativename | Posted 7/4/2006 9:48:24 PM | message detail
In the last contest, wasn't the poll located lower, with an ad where the poll is now? Because that would be the obvious explanation for increased vote totals.
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transience | Posted 7/4/2006 9:49:44 PM | message detail
not to pick on anyone, but I can't believe some people thought there would be rSFF in this match. if Samus can outperform Sephiroth on Ganon, she's not suddenly going to crumble against Kirby.
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creativename | Posted 7/4/2006 9:50:27 PM | message detail
The final update for these matches doesn't seem to be showing up...I wonder if this is a vote refresh bug. Might matter in close matches, if we have any.

If you look at my update script, the 23:55 update has the vote totals displayed for the polls after they finish. This means the last 5 minutes of votes don't seem to be showing up for the final poll update.
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:53:31 PM | message detail
Soul Calibur > Metal Gear, once more.

At the very least, it'll be closer than Pokémon/Star Ocean !!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 9:58:01 PM | message detail
She outperformed Sephiroth on Ganon BECAUSE GANON IS A CHUMP AND OVERPERFORMED ON SEPHIROTH. DIABLO PROVES THIS.

Okay, my anti-Ganon ranting for the day is done.
NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 9:59:49 PM | message detail
I really cant fully explain why Mega Man is so popular. I think any single Mega Man game and its fodder or pretty close to fodder in a games contest. And this is coming from a Mega Man fan, I see the Mega Man games having very VERY similiar fanbases from game to game. You cant convince me that a completey different stock of people like 4 than like 2.

So how is Mega Man so strong in a Character contest. He beat SONIC and Sonic 2, Sonic and Knuckles, and maybe Sonic Adventure would beat any Mega Man game handidly.
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/4/2006 10:00:03 PM | message detail
He also overperformed on Ansem by about 30%.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/4/2006 10:00:26 PM | message detail
Ganon's performance against Seph was legit, dammit!

*throws anything against Ganon out of this topic*
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Metroid vs. Kirby - Bracket: Metroid - Vote: Kirby (3/3)
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:01:11 PM | message detail
Too bad you threw your credibility out with it!
NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:01:41 PM | message detail
I wouldnt call him a chump considering he most likely was stronger than Snake in 2005.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:02:11 PM | message detail
I wouldnt call him a chump considering he most likely was stronger than Snake in 2005.

Don't make me get the chump stick out.
therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 10:04:09 PM | message detail
I wouldnt call him a chump considering he most likely was stronger than Snake in 2005.

It's not even a given that Ganon is stronger than Bowser. A 1.5% difference in performance in a match with about 6000 more votes can be nothing but random fluctuation. And remember, that was a beefed up Bowser against Snake (crappy pic for Snake). I doubt Ganon would have done much better.
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 7/4/2006 10:04:31 PM | message detail
I agree Ganon's topping Auron is quite a feat, but no way Ganon > Snake in 05
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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:05:01 PM | message detail
Well lets put it this way. If 2006 contest happens around the time Twilight Princess comes out, give me Ganon over Snake any day of the week.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:05:28 PM | message detail
*whack*
CountCrazy007 | Posted 7/4/2006 10:05:52 PM | message detail
From NewLib Posted 7/5/2006 12:05:01 AM
Well lets put it this way. If 2006 contest happens around the time Twilight Princess comes out, give me Ganon over Snake any day of the week.

*cough MGS4 cough*
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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:06:45 PM | message detail
*cough its coming out until summer 2007 cough*
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/4/2006 10:07:47 PM | message detail
About any Sonic game beating any Mega Man game, the Mega Man games on their own are probably pretty damn weak, but as a series, Mega Man is something totally kickass. The whole is greater than the sum of it's parts.


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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:08:52 PM | message detail
But why? Every game plays the same. The fanbase should be very similiar for EVERY GAME. I have never heard of someone hating 2 and liking 4 or vise versa. They might think one is better than the other, but they enjoy both.
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creativename | Posted 7/4/2006 10:10:12 PM | message detail
The whole is greater than the sum of it's parts.

Actually, for any game series, the series as a whole is guaranteed to be WAAAY less than the sum of its parts. Fanbase overlap and all that.

I think what you're trying to say is that the difference between the Mega Man series and invididual games would be larger than for most other series.
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 7/4/2006 10:10:47 PM | message detail
It doesn't matter when it's coming out. If you remember E3 there was HUGE hype about the game. Solid Snake sticking a gun in his mouth is big... also, he's going to be in SSBM:B. I'm sorry, but the release of a new Zelda game isn't enough to completely change the way people think of things when Snake is backed up by other hype-o-meters along with his usual dominance.
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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:11:22 PM | message detail
Its not going to change the way people think.

But it will bring a ton of Zelda fans to Gamefaqs.
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EclecticCowbell | Posted 7/4/2006 10:12:21 PM | message detail
Please, please, don't bring up the hype factor.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/4/2006 10:12:47 PM | message detail
I think Kirby just might increase during the day vote, but it's hard to compare him to the character. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 7/4/2006 10:13:27 PM | message detail
Alright, whatever... but I just don't think TP is enough to make a secondary character beat the main character of one of the most popular series in GF.
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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:13:57 PM | message detail
Yeah has there ever been a single game influenced by the hype factor?

I thought we attributed Link's gains to both the Zelda Collection and a general percentage increase of Nintendo fans which caused the Nintendo boost.
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Undeniable | Posted 7/4/2006 10:14:13 PM | message detail
Feh, not like it was possible anyway, but this seals it for Pokemon > Metroid. Eh, I wanted to have some fun being delusional.
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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:14:35 PM | message detail
I do considering they are so close already. You can convince me that Bowser is THAT much stronger than Ganon, if he is stronger at all.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/4/2006 10:16:12 PM | message detail
From NewLib Posted 7/5/2006 1:11:22 AM
Its not going to change the way people think.

But it will bring a ton of Zelda fans to Gamefaqs.


Hmm, but next summer Snake has MGS4. Will that help him out?


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transience | Posted 7/4/2006 10:16:22 PM | message detail
that match was what, 51-49? 1% isn't a lot, and that's assuming that they're equal. Ganon may in fact already be stronger. now, put it out right after Twilight Princess and you've got a likely break in the Noble Nine.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/4/2006 10:16:26 PM | message detail
Wow, even I wouldn't take Ganondorf over Snake.

I would take him over most, if not all, of the upper-elites though.
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Metroid vs. Kirby - Bracket: Metroid - Vote: Kirby (3/3)
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 10:16:57 PM | message detail
I also want to know where the supposed MASSIVE popularity for Mario Kart games come from. You know, the one with the good Super Mario Kart, the fan-favorite Mario Kart 64, the mixed bag Double Dash, the awful Super Circuit, and the borderline B8 fad game DS. That's a total of ONE game that I can get behind for the strength of the series (I won't be swayed by handheld games not named Pokemon).

So what does it have over Mega Man, aside from one game (the only thing I wouldn't take a Mega Man game over)? Sales? Yeah, so does Mario Party, and the first person to tell me MP > MM gets another wallop with the chump stick. Past contest appearances -- yeah. The only thing it has on the Top 100 List is Super Mario Kart (although I don't think MK64 was on the drop-down list) and Sonic 2 beats it out with absolute ease.

Why Mario Kart? Huh? Why does it have to be so infallibly strong, and Mega Man the one we have to doubt? It couldn't be that Board 8 is overhyping and overrating yet another side Nintendo series, could it???
Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/4/2006 10:17:18 PM | message detail
SSB > SMB
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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:17:18 PM | message detail
It will next summer when the game is actually released.

Snake is going to be a beast in 2007, no doubt. He is IN maybe the two biggest releases of 2007.


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CountCrazy007 | Posted 7/4/2006 10:17:28 PM | message detail
Somewhat off-topic, has Ganon even been confirmed as the villain in TP?
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/4/2006 10:18:20 PM | message detail
Super Circuit - 92% on GR

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/371318.asp?q=Super%20Circuit

LOL @ awful
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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 10:19:25 PM | message detail
Im 99% sure he has been confirmed to be in the game.
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transience | Posted 7/4/2006 10:19:28 PM | message detail
Super Circuit is indeed awful. go look at some past poll results.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/4/2006 10:20:38 PM | message detail
Super Circuit is the worst Mario Kart game I've ever played. Yes, worse than Double Dash (though Double Dash can be fun at times).
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